jaysgottaredtop
09-02-2012, 01:42 PM
i've decided to sell my whole knuckle/LCA setup for $500 obo, picked up. i can do shipping too as long as you pay the shipping costs. it wouldn't be too much of a hassle since it's all connected and ready to package.
to directly bolt these to your car, you'll need s14 inner tie rods (or maxima/i30 inners, or aftermarket equivalents like the Megans that i'm using, i think i actually have an extra pair that i can include in the sale), s13 hubs (or an s14 hub with s13 bearings pressed in, since it's an s13 knuckle), and s13-specific front coilovers (again since it's an s13 knuckle).
run-down of the setup:
godspeed adjustable FLCAs ($175)
Speedoholics (Charlotte NC) modded knuckles ($300)
knuckle-to-LCA connection:
2x AIB-12T bearings from QA1 ($18 each)
2x 4 1/2" long Grade 8 3/4"-16 bolts, MMC p/n: 91257A879 ($5 each)
2x 3/4"-16 Grade C conical locking nuts, MMC p/n: 92501A455 ($9 pack)
10x 18-8 SS Shim, .060" Thick, 3/4" Shoulder Dia, MMC p/n: 94773A780 ($10 pack)
4x Black-Oxide Steel Shaft Collar, 3/4" Bore, MMC p/n: 9414T15 ($1 each)
knuckle-to-tie-rod connection:
2x 5/8" QA1 Teflon Lined Chromoly Steel Rod End, QA1 p/n: PCMR10T ($15 each)
2x 5" long Grade 8 5/8"-18 bolts, MMC p/n: 91257A833 ($10 pack)
2x 5/8"-18 Grade C locking nuts, ($1 each)
10x 18-8 SS Shim, .060" Thick, 5/8" Shoulder Dia, MMC p/n: 94773A778 ($7 pack)
6x Black-Oxide Steel Shaft Collar, 5/8" Bore, MMC p/n: 9414T13 ($1 each)
4x 5/8-18 nuts ($3)
4x M16x1.5 nuts ($4)
2x 3" long steel bushing ($2 each)
total for all this plus shipping came out to over $630, not to mention the $50+ easy worth of drill bits, so it was right around the $700 mark. plus i can't even count how many hours i spent drilling, cutting, pressing, welding, test fitting, and re-test fitting :facepalm:
after getting all the parts came the modifications: i took the godspeed LCA, pressed out the old shitty spherical bearing, and pressed in the bigger beefier spherical. the new bearing accepts a big 3/4" Grade-8 bolt and attaches to the knuckle by drilling out the lower knuckle hole to 3/4" (pain in the ass, hooray for drill presses!). then you can stack the collars/shims to adjust the distance between the spindle and the spherical, thus correcting your roll center when you lower the car, making it handle much better and more predictably in the corners. currently it's spaced down 1.665" (42mm) which is about the same amount of correction offered by aftermarket knuckles (like PBM).
the tie rod pickup point on the knuckle was also drilled out, these to 5/8" to accept the 5/8" Grade-8 bolt and 5/8" teflon-lined rod end. spacers can be used to adjust the distance from the knuckle to the rod end, thus leveling out the tie rod and allowing for little/no bumpsteer through rough corners. WAY smoother steering than the factory pickup point! a turnbuckle was welded for each tie rod using a 3" steel bushing sandwiched between a 5/8"-18 nut (for the beefy spherical rod end) and a M16x1.5 nut (to thread into the s14 tie rod). it worked great for mockup and was fine for a drive around the block, but its pretty ugly, so you may consider having a local machine shop drill/tap a piece of aluminum rod for M16x1.5 and 5/8"-18 to have a fancy turnbuckle.
the LCA itself was modified by cutting off the original sway bar mounting points (as they limited full lock angle) and drilling new holes to still connect the sway bar. the inner reverse-threaded adjuster was threaded out a safe distance (to lengthen the LCA) and tack welded in place to avoid it ever coming loose (i've seen one come loose at a drift event and it did NOT end well!). you can still adjust the LCA length by threading the inner heim joint in/out. at shortest, it's a little longer than a stock s13 LCA and a little shorter than a stock s14 LCA. at longest, it's a little longer than a stock s14 LCA.
heres a pic of the godspeed LCA while i was modifying it.
http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7244/7213217034_012ec8a540_c.jpg
heres a pic of everything connected, ready to bolt right in, sway bar and all.
http://farm9.staticflickr.com/8150/7323454264_eb43500da3_c.jpg
http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7105/7323453072_479fbd9585_c.jpg
http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7238/7323451864_a4f759d88e_c.jpg
http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7079/7323451042_aea64e816f_c.jpg
i wish i had taken pic when i installed it all on my car. got it all aligned fine, drove plenty smooth, and made CRAZY angle compared to stock!
the only reason i'm not still running them is because i don't have power steering, and the shortened tie rod pickup point on the knuckles means less leverage for turning. :Ownedd: it's simply too hard to turn for a daily driver. it would be a SICK setup for a car with power steering though.
if you have any more questions, let me know! :bigok:
P.S. no, i'm not parting it out. if you only want one piece of this setup, then buy the whole setup and part out the rest yourself ;)
to directly bolt these to your car, you'll need s14 inner tie rods (or maxima/i30 inners, or aftermarket equivalents like the Megans that i'm using, i think i actually have an extra pair that i can include in the sale), s13 hubs (or an s14 hub with s13 bearings pressed in, since it's an s13 knuckle), and s13-specific front coilovers (again since it's an s13 knuckle).
run-down of the setup:
godspeed adjustable FLCAs ($175)
Speedoholics (Charlotte NC) modded knuckles ($300)
knuckle-to-LCA connection:
2x AIB-12T bearings from QA1 ($18 each)
2x 4 1/2" long Grade 8 3/4"-16 bolts, MMC p/n: 91257A879 ($5 each)
2x 3/4"-16 Grade C conical locking nuts, MMC p/n: 92501A455 ($9 pack)
10x 18-8 SS Shim, .060" Thick, 3/4" Shoulder Dia, MMC p/n: 94773A780 ($10 pack)
4x Black-Oxide Steel Shaft Collar, 3/4" Bore, MMC p/n: 9414T15 ($1 each)
knuckle-to-tie-rod connection:
2x 5/8" QA1 Teflon Lined Chromoly Steel Rod End, QA1 p/n: PCMR10T ($15 each)
2x 5" long Grade 8 5/8"-18 bolts, MMC p/n: 91257A833 ($10 pack)
2x 5/8"-18 Grade C locking nuts, ($1 each)
10x 18-8 SS Shim, .060" Thick, 5/8" Shoulder Dia, MMC p/n: 94773A778 ($7 pack)
6x Black-Oxide Steel Shaft Collar, 5/8" Bore, MMC p/n: 9414T13 ($1 each)
4x 5/8-18 nuts ($3)
4x M16x1.5 nuts ($4)
2x 3" long steel bushing ($2 each)
total for all this plus shipping came out to over $630, not to mention the $50+ easy worth of drill bits, so it was right around the $700 mark. plus i can't even count how many hours i spent drilling, cutting, pressing, welding, test fitting, and re-test fitting :facepalm:
after getting all the parts came the modifications: i took the godspeed LCA, pressed out the old shitty spherical bearing, and pressed in the bigger beefier spherical. the new bearing accepts a big 3/4" Grade-8 bolt and attaches to the knuckle by drilling out the lower knuckle hole to 3/4" (pain in the ass, hooray for drill presses!). then you can stack the collars/shims to adjust the distance between the spindle and the spherical, thus correcting your roll center when you lower the car, making it handle much better and more predictably in the corners. currently it's spaced down 1.665" (42mm) which is about the same amount of correction offered by aftermarket knuckles (like PBM).
the tie rod pickup point on the knuckle was also drilled out, these to 5/8" to accept the 5/8" Grade-8 bolt and 5/8" teflon-lined rod end. spacers can be used to adjust the distance from the knuckle to the rod end, thus leveling out the tie rod and allowing for little/no bumpsteer through rough corners. WAY smoother steering than the factory pickup point! a turnbuckle was welded for each tie rod using a 3" steel bushing sandwiched between a 5/8"-18 nut (for the beefy spherical rod end) and a M16x1.5 nut (to thread into the s14 tie rod). it worked great for mockup and was fine for a drive around the block, but its pretty ugly, so you may consider having a local machine shop drill/tap a piece of aluminum rod for M16x1.5 and 5/8"-18 to have a fancy turnbuckle.
the LCA itself was modified by cutting off the original sway bar mounting points (as they limited full lock angle) and drilling new holes to still connect the sway bar. the inner reverse-threaded adjuster was threaded out a safe distance (to lengthen the LCA) and tack welded in place to avoid it ever coming loose (i've seen one come loose at a drift event and it did NOT end well!). you can still adjust the LCA length by threading the inner heim joint in/out. at shortest, it's a little longer than a stock s13 LCA and a little shorter than a stock s14 LCA. at longest, it's a little longer than a stock s14 LCA.
heres a pic of the godspeed LCA while i was modifying it.
http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7244/7213217034_012ec8a540_c.jpg
heres a pic of everything connected, ready to bolt right in, sway bar and all.
http://farm9.staticflickr.com/8150/7323454264_eb43500da3_c.jpg
http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7105/7323453072_479fbd9585_c.jpg
http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7238/7323451864_a4f759d88e_c.jpg
http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7079/7323451042_aea64e816f_c.jpg
i wish i had taken pic when i installed it all on my car. got it all aligned fine, drove plenty smooth, and made CRAZY angle compared to stock!
the only reason i'm not still running them is because i don't have power steering, and the shortened tie rod pickup point on the knuckles means less leverage for turning. :Ownedd: it's simply too hard to turn for a daily driver. it would be a SICK setup for a car with power steering though.
if you have any more questions, let me know! :bigok:
P.S. no, i'm not parting it out. if you only want one piece of this setup, then buy the whole setup and part out the rest yourself ;)