tw: WTT 180sx aero

[gallo]

got type x replica front bumper with lip (vis), chuki side skirts and nismo rear valances. was trying to see if anyone want to trade for a kit. like a gp or bn style for a hatch

[drifter92]

purchased the side skirts & they arrived heavily damaged and shipped with no box or any packaging what-so-ever. Contact me so we can fix this or I will be leaving negative feedback.

[negrosx13]

Pics of the bumper!!!!!

[ZenKi_373]

Pics of the bumper!!!!!

i bought it (local :b)

with about six hours of work and a few cuts this is the final product

http://i69.photobucket.com/albums/i77/shadow373/0923121719.jpg

[negrosx13]

How much?? I'm willing to drive down to el paso for the right price

[negrosx13]

Crap,just realized how far that is from Houston

[drifter92]

gallo is absolutely not willing to help me fix the issues with me receiving broken side skirts I paid $200 for because he said quote "None" when I asked "Any damage at all?".
He shipped my side skirts with no packaging at all, and no insurance. He simply duct taped them together and shipped them USPS. When I contacted him to straighten it out he was very defensive and said that quote "You didn't pay for insurance, and you didn't pay for packaging." I told him I needed a partial or complete refund and I would send the skirts back, he was completely against any sort of help or explanation.

So... I have some side skirts that are heavily damaged that I paid $200 because he said they were not damaged at all and he refuses to assist me in fixing the situation. I am leaving negative feedback and hopefully future buyers will recognize the risk when buying parts from this guy. If anyone wants pictures I can post them, long with my text message records of his responses and exactly what he told me they were.

[leung]

"You didn't pay for insurance, and you didn't pay for packaging."

Well if this is true then there you go..

[drifter92]

We agreed on the price, he never said it wouldn't be in packaging or insured. If he would have asked I would have paid

[thursdaymike]

Seller is shipping not yhe buyer. If u buy from a store and it arrives without a box damaged who is responsible. He knew there would b damages with no packaging.

[Mikaelhinojosa]

Well if this is true then there you go..

c'mon, who ships fragile pieces like fiberglass without a box or bubbles? Ridiculous! If he gave a price for it shipped it should include that.

[drifter92]

Its a shame that you can get away with doing stuff like this...

Here is the guy:

Juan Gallo from El Paso, Tx
http://zilvia.net/f/members/gallo.html


Edit: PayPal just sent me a partial refund out of their pocket for this guys scam, what a great company. Even after a year they still back up their system and their transactions.

[gallo]

so you expect to low ball on price. not wanna pay for insurance or packing, on used product, talk all sorts of shit instead of " asking or explaining", and go ahead and post these so called heavily damaged products". i told you to calm down i tried to reason with you and even settled thru paypal dispute. which was settled and then randomly text me many months later wanting more money. . and im the one that needs negative feedback or buyers should beware of me right? ok what ever dude . i have sold to many people including including zenki_373 never had problems, including i usually become really good friends with most people. i think sellers should beware of you. if your parents didnt give you allowance this week thats not my problem. im not your daddy to be asking for money you purchased the product i sent many picture before i shipped including the day i shipped and tracking. i even worked with you after the matter and resolved in on paypal.

to top things off you admitted to even making a profit off the side skirts and are still trying to leach more money. . so feel free to post any messages . i will post upon request just to clear things up. . so if im lying prove me wrong PAL. as for everyone else sorry to go off on a rant but shit like this really pisses me off. . . as for you dennis chow. . paypal history shows dispute settled. you had settled even though shipping was outta my control. i was cool about shit even told you to keep me posted on your build . your just trying to leach off people which is messed up. so if you continue to try come up with slander and defamation towards me for cash all i can give you is a can of chinga tu madre vato

[zooopreme]

From what I gather from this thread, drifter92 sent a payment for your side skirts and received them damaged.

The items were not shipped with boxes but rather shipped through USPS taped together without insurance.

Gallo refused to refund the money or a part of the money so paypal refunded drifter92 because Gallo wasn't going to. And then drifter92 apparently kept asking for more.

Gallo's reasoning for not packing them in a box and insuring them is because $200 was a lowball offer which Gallo ACCEPTED when conversing with drifter92.

Well, that last sentence really should sum things up for this case really.

Gallo, you're in the wrong here. There's absolutely no excuse that you can dish out to make you look like the victim here. Drifter92 may be asking for more money but it's only because paypal probably did not provide him with a full refund which you still owe him. If I were you, just refund the money and just get your side skirts back the way drifter92 received it.

[AS240]

I remember when this happened. Duct taped fiberglass skirts, lol. Wasn't gallo's reply like "sometimes you just have to deal with it" or some bs like that? Fck that dude. Even if he did make a profit in the end (after he spent time and money repairing those on top of the 200 he already spent), it's completely irrelevant to the fact you were dishonest about what you had for sale.
That's real shady, man..... Just sayin

[gallo]

how was i dishonest i sent him pictures prior to shipping you want me to just on the usps truck and sit with them the whole way. . we settled on a price which was lower that what i originally asked for he wanted it shipped usps cause greyhound wouldn't go to his house. who the hell carries shipping product the size of a kit at their house, i shipped it out taped together only because i have purchased stuff from other member and received it like that no problem. i refunded him some money not because i thought i was wrong but i just to work with him ( like putting myself in his shows if that ever happen to me, which if it did i would just fix it at a body shop before painting my car). it was settled though paypal he stated he was happy case closed . . . shit load months down the road he wants more money? and im supposed to give him more? why

[drifter92]

so you expect to low ball on price. not wanna pay for insurance or packing, on used product, talk all sorts of shit instead of " asking or explaining", and go ahead and post these so called heavily damaged products". i told you to calm down i tried to reason with you and even settled thru paypal dispute. which was settled and then randomly text me many months later wanting more money. . and im the one that needs negative feedback or buyers should beware of me right? ok what ever dude . i have sold to many people including including zenki_373 never had problems, including i usually become really good friends with most people. i think sellers should beware of you. if your parents didnt give you allowance this week thats not my problem. im not your daddy to be asking for money you purchased the product i sent many picture before i shipped including the day i shipped and tracking. i even worked with you after the matter and resolved in on paypal.

to top things off you admitted to even making a profit off the side skirts and are still trying to leach more money. . so feel free to post any messages . i will post upon request just to clear things up. . so if im lying prove me wrong PAL. as for everyone else sorry to go off on a rant but shit like this really pisses me off. . . as for you dennis chow. . paypal history shows dispute settled. you had settled even though shipping was outta my control. i was cool about shit even told you to keep me posted on your build . your just trying to leach off people which is messed up. so if you continue to try come up with slander and defamation towards me for cash all i can give you is a can of chinga tu madre vato

how was i dishonest i sent him pictures prior to shipping you want me to just on the usps truck and sit with them the whole way. . we settled on a price which was lower that what i originally asked for he wanted it shipped usps cause greyhound wouldn't go to his house. who the hell carries shipping product the size of a kit at their house, i shipped it out taped together only because i have purchased stuff from other member and received it like that no problem. i refunded him some money not because i thought i was wrong but i just to work with him ( like putting myself in his shows if that ever happen to me, which if it did i would just fix it at a body shop before painting my car). it was settled though paypal he stated he was happy case closed . . . shit load months down the road he wants more money? and im supposed to give him more? why


I have a great reputation with everyone who has bought or sold anything to me except you, everyone who has bought or sold anything with me knows what kind of reputation I hold up. I have sold thousands and thousands of dollars worth of parts including almost 10 cars...
People all over Texas know me for having legit parts that are always exactly what I say they are, in the condition I say they are in, and when we have a problem, I resolve it. I sold a guy a KA24DE which I had never used and it turned out to be a POS so I GAVE him a perfect condition S14 KA24DE Cylinder Head and drove it 120 miles to Austin to deliver it to him as a refund for the engine being junk... Your threats will never scare me in the least. And I still deserve a partial refund for these side skirts... $100 will do

Here are some corrections:

First of all, these side skirts were advertised as OEM Chuki 180sx Side Skirts, which means OEM... Plastic... Made by Nissan Japan.
What i received after paying $206.12 on paypal was fiberglass junk broken almost into 4 pieces with all of the paint falling off and huge cracks.

"I sent picture before I shipped"
I have those pictures still, I saved them in my phone : )

"lowball on price"
I have the text message proof of our price talk...
http://i94.photobucket.com/albums/l99/Deanith/IMG_1302-1_zps90f1f548.png (http://s94.photobucket.com/user/Deanith/media/IMG_1302-1_zps90f1f548.png.html)
http://i94.photobucket.com/albums/l99/Deanith/IMG_1303-1_zps14a6d3dc.png (http://s94.photobucket.com/user/Deanith/media/IMG_1303-1_zps14a6d3dc.png.html)
http://i94.photobucket.com/albums/l99/Deanith/IMG_1304-1_zpsd1ec1c7d.png (http://s94.photobucket.com/user/Deanith/media/IMG_1304-1_zpsd1ec1c7d.png.html)
http://i94.photobucket.com/albums/l99/Deanith/IMG_1305-1_zps81b7863c.png (http://s94.photobucket.com/user/Deanith/media/IMG_1305-1_zps81b7863c.png.html)
http://i94.photobucket.com/albums/l99/Deanith/IMG_1273-1_zpse5e5e3ef.png (http://s94.photobucket.com/user/Deanith/media/IMG_1273-1_zpse5e5e3ef.png.html)
http://i94.photobucket.com/albums/l99/Deanith/IMG_1272-1_zps09e85996.png (http://s94.photobucket.com/user/Deanith/media/IMG_1272-1_zps09e85996.png.html)

"Not wanna pay for insurance or packaging"
Are you kidding me? That is 100% made up haha

"Post these heavily damaged products"
Okay
http://i94.photobucket.com/albums/l99/Deanith/651D1560-8745-418C-96AD-817637A682AC-559-00000110B16FA0FB.jpg (http://s94.photobucket.com/user/Deanith/media/651D1560-8745-418C-96AD-817637A682AC-559-00000110B16FA0FB.jpg.html)
http://i94.photobucket.com/albums/l99/Deanith/IMG_1320_zps99cc22df.jpg (http://s94.photobucket.com/user/Deanith/media/IMG_1320_zps99cc22df.jpg.html)
http://i94.photobucket.com/albums/l99/Deanith/IMG_1319_zps75c08399.jpg (http://s94.photobucket.com/user/Deanith/media/IMG_1319_zps75c08399.jpg.html)
http://i94.photobucket.com/albums/l99/Deanith/IMG_1309_zps3e54a0ca.jpg (http://s94.photobucket.com/user/Deanith/media/IMG_1309_zps3e54a0ca.jpg.html)
http://i94.photobucket.com/albums/l99/Deanith/IMG_1308_zps9b5b7def.jpg (http://s94.photobucket.com/user/Deanith/media/IMG_1308_zps9b5b7def.jpg.html)
http://i94.photobucket.com/albums/l99/Deanith/IMG_1306-1_zps3444858c.jpg (http://s94.photobucket.com/user/Deanith/media/IMG_1306-1_zps3444858c.jpg.html)
http://i94.photobucket.com/albums/l99/Deanith/IMG_1301-1_zps8206ab72.jpg (http://s94.photobucket.com/user/Deanith/media/IMG_1301-1_zps8206ab72.jpg.html)
http://i94.photobucket.com/albums/l99/Deanith/IMG_1300_zpsf755f830.jpg (http://s94.photobucket.com/user/Deanith/media/IMG_1300_zpsf755f830.jpg.html)
http://i94.photobucket.com/albums/l99/Deanith/IMG_1299_zps34122a0e.jpg (http://s94.photobucket.com/user/Deanith/media/IMG_1299_zps34122a0e.jpg.html)
http://i94.photobucket.com/albums/l99/Deanith/IMG_1297-1_zps3404da31.jpg (http://s94.photobucket.com/user/Deanith/media/IMG_1297-1_zps3404da31.jpg.html)
http://i94.photobucket.com/albums/l99/Deanith/IMG_1296-1_zpseb5448e6.jpg (http://s94.photobucket.com/user/Deanith/media/IMG_1296-1_zpseb5448e6.jpg.html)
http://i94.photobucket.com/albums/l99/Deanith/IMG_1298-1_zpsf82511fb.jpg (http://s94.photobucket.com/user/Deanith/media/IMG_1298-1_zpsf82511fb.jpg.html)

"Even settled through paypal dispute"
He told me he was contacting USPS insurance claims and they were sending him a refund, which lead me on just enough to cancel my PayPal refund claim for him as a seller. This is a half truth once again.

"Randomly texts me months later wanting money"
This was because he said USPS was going to refund hm so he could refund me... A month later I was asking where my refund is and he just got mad at started talking shit again as seen above, lol.

"dennis chow"
Lol

"shipping was outta my control"
False, you control who you ship it through, what kind of packaging, how soon it arrives, tracking, delivery confirmation, signature.
If you would have said, Pay $240 or i wont send them in a box, i might have paid that, but i probably would have not even bought anything from you at all.


"settled" "settled on paypal" "after we settled"
What? lol

"prove me wrong PAL"
All done.

"I refunded him some money"
Absolutely false, proove it.

"so if you continue to try come up with slander and defamation towards me for cash all i can give you is a can of chinga tu madre vato"
This is a perfect example of his fantastic customer service!

"you even admitted to making a profit"
I repaired them... lol and the profit was only because PayPal is a legitimate company willing to send me cash to cover your lies and scam.
Here are my repaired skirts
http://i94.photobucket.com/albums/l99/Deanith/9667C2FE-69C4-415B-8297-06053BCC3321-8766-000009C61D6A5DCD_zpsbbcb8bb0.jpg (http://s94.photobucket.com/user/Deanith/media/9667C2FE-69C4-415B-8297-06053BCC3321-8766-000009C61D6A5DCD_zpsbbcb8bb0.jpg.html)

NEXT.

[Bullitt_180sx]

Drifter92, I agree with you 100% on everything except for one tiny detail. It is actually spelled "prove" lol.

[AS240]

Damn, shyt just got real...

[gallo]

how am i gonna tell you to pay 240 when you already sent the money and agreed usps because it was more convenient for you. i didnt ask usps and they said there was nothing they could do because insurance was not purchased which i had told you after they told me that as well. not to mention once we settled through paypal and you said we were good i figured we had resolved the issue not that you were gonna keep wanting money and at the top of this thread no where does it state OEM . . it say chuki. . not oem nissan

[Bullitt_180sx]

Either way, in any transaction, the seller is responsible for safely packaging the item for shipping so that it arrives to the buyer in the intended condition. Insurance is irrelevant in this situation. Had the item been properly packaged, there would be no need for insurance. Seriously "pay for packaging"!!! Generally a "shipped" price includes some sort of packaging. Hell, cut up some damn cardboard boxes and tape them together into one box, stuff it with fucking newspaper and, viola! Basically free packaging that would keep things from being destroyed. Seriously It's just common sense that you can't just duct tape fiberglass skirts together and drop them in the mail and expect they are going to reach their destination undamaged. I thought it was common sense anyway.

[drifter92]

how am i gonna tell you to pay 240 when you already sent the money and agreed usps because it was more convenient for you. i didnt ask usps and they said there was nothing they could do because insurance was not purchased which i had told you after they told me that as well. not to mention once we settled through paypal and you said we were good i figured we had resolved the issue not that you were gonna keep wanting money and at the top of this thread no where does it state OEM . . it say chuki. . not oem nissan

Whenever you decided not to send them in a box or package of any sort is when you should have contacted me and said so, not just shipped them like you did and said later, "You didn't pay for packaging" Really?

They wouldn't insure it because it wasn't in any packaging of any sort.

There we go with that "settled through paypal" again, why do you keep saying that? There was never a point when I said, "Hey man I'm happy with the side skirts and you can keep my $200"

You hinted that they were OEM Chuki and didn't tell me that they were fiberglass, OEM are the only ones worth $200, fiberglass junk is not worth $200 for just a pair of side skirts.

If they were OEM Plastic they wouldn't have been damaged like they were, and the damage that they had when i received them WAS NOT caused 100% by shipping alone. Shipping doesn't make paint fall off...

[dookiedang]

Lol it shows he doesn't care enough to pack it right. No matter what he says now. No one will buy from him. Save your strength jackass, you fucked up and now blaming other ppl for your laziness and no sense of reponsibility.

[drifter92]

Lol it shows he doesn't care enough to pack it right. No matter what he says now. No one will buy from him. Save your strength jackass, you fucked up and now blaming other ppl for your laziness and no sense of reponsibility.

Haha, agreed. I love how tough people are over the internet.

[angelz365]

hahahahaha what are you serious only taped, no box lol that is too funny!! yea op maybe change your name or hit another forum your rep is toast here!

[drifter92]

So gallo, where are you to prove me wrong?

[boxofchocolate]

you lowballed him, he lowballed USPS.

"first he screws me, then he screws you. Its dutch door action!"

[drifter92]

you lowballed him, he lowballed USPS.

"first he screws me, then he screws you. Its dutch door action!"

You didn't read the thread. I didn't lowball him, and the parts were not as described.

[OutlawLui]

I'll take the skirts...

How much for shipping? i don't want insurance

[Bullitt_180sx]

I'll take the skirts...

How much for shipping? i don't want insurance

At least ask for them to be packaged, apparently you have to ask for that specifically these days.

[gallo]

you settled through paypal disputes then almost a year later you say you want more money makes no sense and yes i screwed up shipping them like that . . but they were fine when i shipped them . the shipping company messed them up its outta my control . i was not gonna pay $40 packaging when you had already lowballed the price i was initially asking.

[drifter92]

you settled through paypal disputes then almost a year later you say you want more money makes no sense and yes i screwed up shipping them like that . . but they were fine when i shipped them . the shipping company messed them up its outta my control . i was not gonna pay $40 packaging when you had already lowballed the price i was initially asking.

I posted the picture of your text to me saying you will do $200 shipped and cover the extra out of your own pocket so quit saying this bullshit about a lowball offer, $200 is more than those fiberglass skirts cost brand new. Get a clue. You never told me the skirts were fiberglass and if they were I would not have bought them, and fiberglass isn't worth $200, only OEM Chuki plastic skirts go for that amount that's why you lead me on to believe they were plastic, duh.

You keep saying "settled through paypal" but you will not attempt to provide any proof of this you just hope that the people reading this thread believe you because you know that is total bullshit, this situation was never settled.
You need to send me a partial refund for this, because you know exactly what you did.

The damage the side skirts had WAS NOT CAUSED BY SHIPPING ALONE.
Shipping doesn't make paint fall off, you really think I am ignorant don't you?

Just refund me some amount of money so you can at least act like you tried to help and quit saying this bullshit about settled through paypal because you know that is false.

POST PROOF OF US "SETTLING THROUGH PAYPAL"!!!

[gallo]

u could just look on ur paypal history thats how i remembered your name is dennis chow but sure ill ask paypal for print out for you since paypal history is to hard for you

[drifter92]

My name is not Dennis Chow, that also shows that you haven't looked on PayPal, and if you did, you would have seen that my name isn't even on the PayPal account I paid you from.
Lets see this refund payment you sent me...

[gallo]

i asked you on here through private message and you said your name was dennis chow

[drifter92]

My name is Dean Chinowith, PayPal is [email protected] under Zach Chinowith

[gallo]

thats the only dispute that shows in my paypal history . . no other disputes what so ever every paypal transaction i have has been settled so im i am mistaken you can have paypal contact me

[Nessaholiclover1]

Damn Gallo, ur pretty much burned here, it's simply really, the buyer did not receive what he paid for. If seller wants to protect his reputation, he should refund full money and ask for skirts back. It's that simply, you the seller were negligent to ship the item safely. Put yourself in the buyers shoes. Sell elsewhere, as far as me, I don't lowball, I pay for what I want. But if there is ever something u are selling that I want, I wouldn't buy it. /: Good luck and learn from this experience. Drifter92, I feel you man, but in the bright side, it was only 2 bills, that can easily be recovered. Be careful next time.

[drifter92]

Drifter92, I feel you man, but in the bright side, it was only 2 bills, that can easily be recovered. Be careful next time.

I repaired them and made most of my money back and then paypal refunded me a little cash to make up for his noncooperation.

[drifter92]

Yep, still haven't received any refund at all.