1st round of suspension goodies!

[ucfz31s13]

Santa came today in his brown truck and had a couple packages waiting for me and my s13 when I arrived home tonight.

Courtesy of SPLParts :bowdown:

The loot...
http://www.mitchvision.com/misc/spl/DSCN0673.JPG

Tension Rods, Rear Toe Link, Rear Traction Link
http://www.mitchvision.com/misc/spl/DSCN0685.JPG

Pro RUCA's, Rear Subframe Collars
http://www.mitchvision.com/misc/spl/DSCN0687.JPG

Quality of these parts is amazing. Let me tell you they are much larger and beefier in person! Welds are per-fect-o!

Still waiting on my Tein HE's and tie rods and I should be about ready for the install.

Man, I can't wait to go from an other wise stock suspension w/ Eibachs to this. :lockd:

Already have Cusco front STB and rear STB w/ triangle brace along w/ both Front and Rear Jpec.com ladder bars, but they aren't doing much w/ my 99k miles old shocks and struts.

I'll probably be in for a surprise in the handling when I finally get around to having my suspension install party! :rawk:

Tampa DD2 here I come :)

Ok, I'm done. :wiggle:

[Bbandit]

omg that is a nice line up.. i've been meaning to get all of those parts too... but i have to finish this ka-t stuff first.. and then finish the rest of my suspensions...
:thumbsup:
have fun with those man

[hookedup240]

nice parts, have fun

[DoriftoSlut]

Yeah SPL Parts is the SHIT! Kuah sent me those RUCAs, TC rods, and subframe spacers. Nice as shit.

[Dousan_PG]

NICE STUFF! I got the same stuff hahaha
its top quality!!

[Zemus]

I hate you



JK man that stuff is rocking, I need to get some RUCAs from them, looks like good stuff

[sykikchimp]

I would highly recommend getting some dust boots for all those heim joints.

[DRFT]

wow that musta cost a pretty penny, but well worth it!

good luck with the install and give us a review of how they handle!

[thx247]

going to be a rough ride

[ucfz31s13]

thanks guys, I'm so stoked about putting them on!! :rawk:

Can't wait to see how she handles w/ all the new parts. I'm just trying to get everything needed and do it all at the same time and only have to get it aligned once, blah, blah :)

sykikchimp: What kind of dust boost are you talking about? Is there a place you can buy a 'set' from, or just do it yourself type of thing?

DRFT: Yeah, they weren't cheap thats for sure, but like you said, should be well worth it. Only problem I'm going to have is people will ask me "Did you notice a difference w/ the <insert suspension part here>?" and I won't have an answer because everything was put on at the same time! Haha.

Probably the one of the few people you'll meet that does a bulk install of all suspension components and LSD at the same time :wtf:

lol

[Matt_240]

those are goin to make a humungous difference. i always like the idea of doing a couple things at a time to "feel" the difference in each but im probably just being a jealous bish right now cause i don't have all those parts. so :madfawk: !!!!! mwahahahahaha just kidding.

[Heartwork]

awesome, fun stuff

[DoriftoSlut]

going to be a rough ride
Did your suspension book tell you that? Lets all convert back to stock then. harsh rides are teh suxorz. Heaven forbid you get rid of sloppy oem cream filled donut bushing crap for some taught ball joints. I mean you do have dampers on the car right? Might as well put them to good use.

[Matt_240]

i think that RUCA will make a great towel holder. thatd be soo pimp. you can camber the towel for wall clearance.

[BadMoJo]

CHeck out this place for rod end boots and such ---> http://www.bakerprecision.com/rodacc.htm

[s13andy]

damn those are all so nice, i cant wait till my brown truck santa drops some off for me

[s14xman]

i think that RUCA will make a great towel holder. thatd be soo pimp. you can camber the towel for wall clearance.

:rofl: LMFAO!!!! :rofl:

[drift into a curb]

Nice kitchen! And some nice parts. I would like your Rear Forward links. Looks like it would fit my car nicely lol. Have fun installing. The ride won't be harsh at all as someone commented. Really smooth actually.

I think it was $12 bucks a dust boot(medium size as someone else recommended on zilvia) at baker precision. Anyone know of a cheaper place for dust boots?

[Flybert]

I'm rolling with sperical bearings and metal bushings all through my suspension but my ride isn't rough. It's mostly in the dampening ability and spring rates of your coilovers that makes the biggest difference.

I'm jealous of your rear toe and bumpsteer rods. Good shit. If I were you, I would have went with N1 PRO, Tanabe DD, Kei Office, or Cuscos with all the money you're spending on suspension stuff.

Drift into Curb: spending that much on dust boots isn't worth it when you buy stuff from SPL. They have a one year warranty on the solid bushings and after that time is up, it's only $20 to replace the bushing.

[drift into a curb]

Interesting info, I wasn't aware of their warranty. Thanks for the heads up. I think the dust boot is just for peace of mind, so you don't have to worry about your parts.

[Dunkee]

thanks guys, I'm so stoked about putting them on!! :rawk:

Can't wait to see how she handles w/ all the new parts.

Don't expect the car to be able to take any turn...I know a couple of people who tried to really push the car as soon as they got coilovers and ended up around a tree. Take some time to get used to it before you push it :angel:

[Dousan_PG]

I'm jealous of your rear toe and bumpsteer rods. Good shit. If I were you, I would have went with N1 PRO, Tanabe DD, Kei Office, or Cuscos with all the money you're spending on suspension stuff.


why? there's nothing wrong with his choices
if you KNEW more about SPL you'd understand
anyways, the choices (HEs, SPL) are excellent. if you dont believe me, then ride in my car this month at buttonwillow. it gets the job done a-ok. ive done all my competitions and drifting on HEs and never had aproblem. just because he didnt spend a grip more for those brands, doesnt mean he made a bad choice.

[ucfz31s13]

drift into a curb: Thanks! I didn't know anyone was going to comment on the kitchen, hehe. We actually just got new counters not too long ago!

flybert: I thought about buying some $$$ expensive coilovers, instead of the HE's and lots of other suspension components, but thought I'd start off w/ HE's and upgrade when I'm no longer a beginner :)
Anway you go though, it's still more money than I had planned on spending Oh the addiction! :hyper:

As for the towel holder, that's a great idea! Make sure you get the PRO Upper arms though, wouldn't want them bending from the extra weight when the towel is wet :p

[Var]

did spl give you any kind of deal for ordering all that stuff at once?

[sykikchimp]

The dust boots help keep those arm's maintenance and trouble free. Especially if you live somewhere dusty or salty.

your choices are to clean them about every oil change (not that big of a deal, but some people are slackers), get dust boots and forget about it, or replace those heim joints every 1.5 -2 years when they either get loose, and rattle, or freeze from rust.

I guess it's just a preference :shrug:

[shinhed]

did spl give you any kind of deal for ordering all that stuff at once?
ditto.
.....

[Flybert]

why? there's nothing wrong with his choices
if you KNEW more about SPL you'd understand
anyways, the choices (HEs, SPL) are excellent. if you dont believe me, then ride in my car this month at buttonwillow. it gets the job done a-ok. ive done all my competitions and drifting on HEs and never had aproblem. just because he didnt spend a grip more for those brands, doesnt mean he made a bad choice.

Dousan, I didn't mean he should have gotten different multi-link. All SPL shit is tight because it's the good shit without a big name. I meant that he should have maybe spent an extra couple hundred of bucks for some nicer coils. I know you rock the HE's and they work for you, but as he said, "thought I'd start off w/ HE's and upgrade when I'm no longer a beginner". I think it's better to wait for when you can afford to get what you want. If you are going to put the money down for some coilovers, don't do it expecting to upgrade them when you get better. It's just a waste of money.

Dousan, are you going to up your spring rates any time soon along with a revalve. I wonder if they do a better job of valving them then when they come from the factory. In that case, HE's might be just as good as getting JIC FLTA2. Dude, I can't wait to go to buttonwillow. I'll definitely have to take a ride with you. You mind sitting in on a run with me so I can get some feedback?

[Dousan_PG]

fuck the revalve, just going up 1kg, should be a-ok. my friend did it no problems.
actually i understand the valving now and how to tune the coilover with it, i love them now. they absorb and hold..its freaking rad. perfect for drifting.

yeah you can ride w/ my for some laps. i just need a few to get back 'in the mindset'. and getthe lines down. after that ist balls out all day :)

[the240sxer95]

understand the valving? care to explain? ;)

[S13SilviaGirl]

I am jealous of your new toys from the UPS santa....

[Dousan_PG]

HEs are like DDs (sort of minus the spring rates, inverted..etc) but the principle is same
to compress and hold (slower on rebound) for stability and increasing speed mid drift

DDs are F'in awesome from the people i know pesronally who own them/use them. ive ridden in those cars and wow. they feel nice but you really cant tell as a pssenger..but i cant say negatives about it
HEs just took me time to test and tune it to get it how i like it. i also think 8/6 is too soft for what i want so hence the spring rate bump up

[ucfz31s13]

Flybert: Point taken. Have to agree w/ you 100%.

Dousan: So running the stock HE valving w/ a 9/7 instead of 8/6 will work fine? I'd like to run a 9/7 but didn't know if the HE valving would hold...you're saying they will do a-ok? Do you know if all warranties still apply w/ this setup? Thanks.

[Dousan_PG]

should be..my friend does it
stick w/ 8/6 and see what you think1!
warranties? no idea...

[Halz]

Only $20 to replace a rod end? Apparently, you're buying the cheap stuff http://www.bakerprecision.com/nhbb1a.htm

[ucfz31s13]

did spl give you any kind of deal for ordering all that stuff at once?

Yes. Good thing I asked!

Helps to be polite! ;)

[DoriftoSlut]

Only $20 to replace a rod end? Apparently, you're buying the cheap stuff http://www.bakerprecision.com/nhbb1a.htm
Just cause those cost $50+ retail doesn't mean they cost that much to manufacture. How many people will actually need SPL Parts to replace the balljoints? Its like buying Craftsmen or something. If they give you free replacement tools for broken ones then they must suck right? No.

I have talked to Kuah about his products, manufacturing, etc etc... Seemed like good stuff. Then he sent me an order. Fuckin A. SO GOOD. I was TOO impressed with the quality. Excelent.

It looks to me like that Baker Precision may be a "race" shop? Or so it seems with prices like that. So yeah that is top quality, low production, expensive shit. For an average 240sx i dont know why you would need that. But to each his own. Ask THX for me if i bought Baker Precision heim joints would my ride then be less stiff? I don't get you two guys. Its like "OMG OMG OMG Nissan engineers designed the 240sx one way so we should keep it as near that as possible." Riiight. But then someone talks about japanese aftermarket arms or braces or whatever and you are all "OMG OMG OMG you are buying the cheap shit!" like looking down upon them. I don't know... what happened to that stock suspension you praised Nissan for? Or those stock 14 year old glued joints. Or the bushings? etc. I will give you props for actually going to track events, but i hate how you 2 read some suspension book and then think that every aftermarket pieece but race application custom made parts suck and make the car handle like shit. uhhhh my car handles great.

[TRUENOCOUPE]

Lindsay... FYI, Those two are great drivers. If you can beat them at the track I will give you props. I have not seen anyone beat them yet. Karting or Track Race.

Its pointed out already that you get what you pay for. Im not saying the cheaper they are the shittier it is.

BTW: Craftsman are crap. Snap on is the way to go.

[DoriftoSlut]

Al, I have seen them drive. Im not discounting anyone as a driver or anything like that. Honestly i couldnt compare to anyone cause i saw them gripping at a (primarily) drift event. I certainly do not care about beating anyone in a race, my goal of track driving is enjoying myself drifting and hang out with friends. If i liked winning "races" I would build a car like TY or Chang.

Anyways, how many people can beat Michael Shumacher at a race? Not many. If Schumey said all pigs are green would you believe him? What if you then showed him a yellow pig? And he said Oh well that yellow pig isn't yellow enough. Look at THIS yellow pig. WTF Schumey, you just told me that all pigs are green!

THAT, my friend, is what i equate to those guys' online conversations/arguments.

Anyways, see you guys March 29th. Looking from the pits is West loop the big course on the right where the magazines test cars, or is it the one we ran when Forsberg brought the 180 up? (the Dec 5 event).

[DoriftoSlut]

As for 'you get what you pay for'.... SPL Parts is like you get 1.5 times what you pay for. thats why i drive for them, support and reccomend them, no complaints, superb quality, nice guys, A+.

[Flybert]

It's the west loop or at least that's what the memo says. The big one.

[curbsurfer]

lindsay, if you get dust boots, $50 rod ends, and snap-on tools, then you will be a faster driver and get more props on the internet for doing things "right".

[TRUENOCOUPE]

lindsay, if you get dust boots, $50 rod ends, and snap-on tools, then you will be a faster driver and get more props on the internet for doing things "right".

You are a fucking dolt.

Read the post again.

[TRUENOCOUPE]

Main point is that is has been proven before that cheap parts = cheap quality. Not necessary that parts you guys are technically speaking tho.

I remember my OEM Tie Rods lasted me a year atleast. Then I saw 'moog' which is beefier that OEM. I went with that and it only lasted me one event. Reason why I went with 'moog' cause it was a lot CHEAPER. I mean 40 dollar cheaper.

I guess, Hes point is Cheaper parts = Cheap Quality.

Im not on anyone side but it has been proven. I personally do not know who SPL is. I thought that stand for 'special' (jdm thing, i think).

[TRUENOCOUPE]

It's the west loop or at least that's what the memo says. The big one.

Sorry to hi jack the post but yes, Its the west loop but technically its the 'zorro corner' only. I don't think we need the whole West Loop.

[Halz]

Looks like my sarcasm, subtle sometimes even in real life, has gotten me into trouble!
Maybe if I didn't have apparently the elitist track record I do and I said the same thing, the humor could have been well received.

I just recently bought some $25 rod ends (http://www.racerpartswholesale.com/roden1.htm) to replace the 2 year old TC rod joints that developed end play.

I wouldn’t buy a tool I knew sucked, or had unproven quality if I was expecting to depend on it heavily, like a torque wrench, and might one day have that tool blow up in my hand when I depended on it. So what if it could be replaced under warranty? It failed when it needed to perform, and the operator was put at risk due to the failure.

What I have experienced at the track has reinforced how acceptable the car can perform with predominantly stock components. For example, without installing huge rotors and calipers, the stock brakes are still more than enough to lock up the tires at high speed, and be resistant to fade with just more aggressive brake pads. So... why are people upgrading the brake system when they haven’t even touched the potential of the stock system? Is a 30mm rotor really worth the added weight over a 26mm rotor, or a 22mm rotor, all with the same diameter?


I am all for changing/modifying the 240... I just don’t like seeing people haphazardly slap some tyte shyt on their car that was marketed directly towards them, and then talk amongst themselves about how great it all is, ignorant to what out there might still be even better in performance, cost, etc. Its possible those $100 rod ends will last 4x longer than these $25 rod ends I just bought. Nobody will know until they do research.

[curbsurfer]

You are a fucking dolt.

Read the post again.


did i strike a nerve? dolt?--ouch

just because it costs more doesnt mean its better

[DoriftoSlut]

BAH! I liked the 'Offramp' corner going anticlockwise on *Eastloop i guess. Shit was mad JDM Tyte. Nah but seriously Irwindale what? Thats where stupid D1 shoudl have been. I think we should have D1 up at touge. Liek yeah bring all your fancypants racecars and get them FUCKED UP. Like Ebisu 2001 in the rain. FUCK DEM CARS UP!

Anyways, i know YOU are sick of it Al, but lets do another eastloop soon.

Oh yeha on topic, um, suspension parts... yeah.

[Halz]

http://www.buttonwillowraceway.com/images/test_10_config.gif thats the config for the 29th

[DoriftoSlut]

Gracias senor Alex.

[Halz]

Alejandro :( :p

[DoriftoSlut]

Hmmm... i think it would be cool to do the "zorro's" and the upper part of west loop that is Black in the link halz posted... i alsoi liek the looks of the Mazda Club turn. But having never driven them i dont know.... just going off the drawing... meh. Looks liek its better for grip this time. Blah. So boring grip is.

[thx247]

Lindsey: I guess all I can say is its just the internet. IRL we are all nice people that just want to drive. Argueing about things online is fine with me, even when I'm wrong or someone else is wrong...its the only way to learn sometimes...because obviously reading everything from a book isn't working out ;) That said, you'll never see me running sperical ball joints on the street.

I'm not sure how Mazda Star is going to work, it looks like you can drift the first part of it, and if you are bold go and drift the esses. The berms are sorta high in the esses now so if you mess up it might be your ass (or another bumper :rawk: ), um otherwise, Riverside turn is not being used for this event at least right now, its a 9xmph turn and there is concern at the track about someone going off and rolling.

Should be plenty of time on track

[DoriftoSlut]

Ahhh.. i was thinking about Star Mazfa (sorry i combined some names at first) running...anticlockwise... Blaze into the first sweeper part and get sideways and cary that into the tighter decreasing hairpin. thinking mid-top 3rd down to mid-low 2nd. Would be fun... link the 2. But again, i dont know the scale of what im looking at. how wide/runoff design, elevation change, etc.

*after comparing the scale of that turn to Offramp i realize no one in their right mind would ever attempt, nor achieve what i am proposing. These courses would be better if everything was a TAD smaller. I forget sometimes these tracks are meant for grip not drift.

And my name's spelled with an A not E. If you EVER do that again i will.... haha jk i dont care. Its dar intarweb. If i did not live in teh middle of Long Beach i would be up at the mountains running bumpers over.

[Flybert]

Pacific and sunset look like good turns but then we wouldn't be able to do the zorros which also look pretty good. Are the zorros long enough where you'd choku dori down it or just link it from one drift to another? Looks like potential for some good fun.

I'm thinking mazda turn should be done clockwise. I guess we just have to wait and see.

[thx247]

star mazda is pretty big, props if you could link them. I think you would need a good amount of speed. Going clockwise a stock 240 will be deep into 4th gear coming out the esses. I still have wet dreams watching a Z06 run through there flat out with ZERO roll.

Wide..its like a parking lot out there.....36ft.


Sunset would be driftable, a-typical left hand 90 degree turn with a bit of camber. Lots of people understeer through it though

[Var]

. I still have wet dreams watching a Z06 run through there flat out with ZERO roll.

:bowdown: Z06 ownz you. bow down you shameless peons :bowdown:

:drool:

[TRUENOCOUPE]

I guess Ill see you guys on March 29th. We hi-jack the thread. LOL

[TRUENOCOUPE]

Lindsay - I need a new track set up for my car this is why we choose West Loop. Something other than East Loop. I already know the elevation on the east so now time to learn the west.

Mazda turn would be possible to drift the whole turn if you can actually take off drifting from 95-100MPH. But I wouldn't want you to push you limit. That turn is WAY too big.

The Esses is very nice if you can keep it up without hitting the curbs. The curbs are a lil high so you guys might want to becareful.

The Zorro Turn you can be able to connect the drift if you get enough speed at the first turn and make sure you are willing to go 10K RPM. I know I couldn't get that going when I was shifting around 6-7K RPM. Its still fun nonetheless.

Sunset Turn will be closed. This is Drifting Practice not Grip. I don't mind at all but my main thing for this event is for drifter. So sunset is really useless for now. Maybe in the future I will open that turn.

Half day we will be going Clockwise then the rest of the day we are going Counter Clockwise.

Al

[mjjstang]

heyj where do you order the spl stuff from?

[DoriftoSlut]

Um, www.splparts.com