S14 or RX8??

[Waveous72]

I just recently got stationed in south korea, so i had to sell my 89 240. I just want some opinions on if i should get a 95-98 240 rebuild it or get a rx8 when i get back stateside. I love the 240 but i would also like something newer im trying to stay under 15k and a car with low miles. Thanks

[zo0d]

Don't Be a Menace to South Central While Drinking your Juice in the Hood - Quick fashion question - YouTube (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=78o5YE9A0MU)

[KOUKIboy]

OP really!?! really!?! I would expect this from a Honda turned Nissan kid, but you already had a 240, so obviously you know what you're getting yourself into.... Stay away from 240s!!!

[1on1]

you're a grown man. Make your own decision.

/end thread

[EnemyS15]

^^^^ truth. Why don't you put your big boy pants on and practice what us men call, "making your own decisions".

[fliprayzin240sx]

Research...do you want an old POS car or a newer car with a POS engine?

[lenox_240]

You had 240 before so that means you had some experience with these cars but at the end is all up to you.

[StepN2Boost]

He's not asking for anybody to make the decision for him, but rather seeking councel/opinion of his peers.

OP, personally I would go for the 240 out of the two. If you wanna go rotary, get an Fd, but age wise that would be no better than the 240. I know you can pick up a decent 350z for around 15k, there's a pretty decent inventry of those out there. And it would afford you the chance to try a straight 6 on for size. Anyhow...food for thought.

[zerodameaon]

Research...do you want an old POS car or a newer car with a POS engine?

This sums the choices you posted up perfect. If you want a 240 but can afford the RX8, look into a 350z or G35. Modern comforts as well as modern reliability and they both have really good aftermarkets.

[brndck]

you're a grown man. Make your own decision.

/end thread

^^^^ truth. Why don't you put your big boy pants on and practice what us men call, "making your own decisions".

Research...do you want an old POS car or a newer car with a POS engine?

/\/\/\/\thisssssss

op is it really that hard to make decisions for yourself???

[StepN2Boost]

/\/\/\/\thisssssss

op is it really that hard to make decisions for yourself???

Nice contribution...truly helpful.

[na12uto]

Go with the 350 trust me a better investment by far.

[soreballz]

I know you can pick up a decent 350z for around 15k, there's a pretty decent inventry of those out there. And it would afford you the chance to try a straight 6 on for size. Anyhow...food for thought.
Yes, because 350Zs have straight 6s.

Good job, Florida.

[PRADOgy]

Damn is it me, or do people on here need to get laid a little more? Or is it we are just that much more jaded and grumpy now that we have less hair on our head... Peeps sure aren't what I remember them being like a couple of years ago here lol


To OP

Rx8 is one helova balanced machine. IMO that engine is one of the funnest engines to drive and support for that car is pretty awesome. I LOVE the rx8 BUT simply just can't afford it. Why? because that engine needs to be kept in top shape. Nice and lubed but with the price of petroleum going up, both oil and gas become annoying to buy. All the emissions make it a little unstable with response. If you don't mind removing it, it makes it THAT much easier to work on. Again, this here is a financial factor IMO lol.

I too agree with na12uto that a 350z is a bang for the buck

[xoxide]

He's not asking for anybody to make the decision for him, but rather seeking councel/opinion of his peers.

OP, personally I would go for the 240 out of the two. If you wanna go rotary, get an Fd, but age wise that would be no better than the 240. I know you can pick up a decent 350z for around 15k, there's a pretty decent inventry of those out there. And it would afford you the chance to try a straight 6 on for size. Anyhow...food for thought.
Staight six... no shit? Special JDM option I assume? :ddog:

[PRADOgy]

Ouch SteN2Boost, you had that one coming lol.

[fliprayzin240sx]

Damn is it me, or do people on here need to get laid a little more? Or is it we are just that much more jaded and grumpy now that we have less hair on our head... Peeps sure aren't what I remember them being like a couple of years ago here lol


To OP

Rx8 is one helova balanced machine. IMO that engine is one of the funnest engines to drive and support for that car is pretty awesome. I LOVE the rx8 BUT simply just can't afford it. Why? because that engine needs to be kept in top shape. Nice and lubed but with the price of petroleum going up, both oil and gas become annoying to buy. All the emissions make it a little unstable with response. If you don't mind removing it, it makes it THAT much easier to work on. Again, this here is a financial factor IMO lol.

I too agree with na12uto that a 350z is a bang for the buck

Sorry, we're just all ate up...where the fuck have you been the last year or so?!?!

[na12uto]

OOOH didnt see the straight six comment -___- man someone has zero knowledge one the VQs
Oh FYI if you do get a z33 and plan on drifting it, stay away from the Base models. They dont have VLSD found out the hard way.. and if you just say that youll just swap the diff well only one company makes a 2way that fits the Open diff pumpkin. OK have a good day

[ralphandthequeen]

in my opinion, the RX8 is a chic car... and youre from Georgia.. i know there arent many Supras there, get a Supra.

[naw_speed]

.................s14

[Waveous72]

Ok well thank you for the ones that gave me their opinion and everybody else can go eat a dick. I have done research i just wanted a few opinions on the subject and im just looking for a well balanced car that will take me to and from work and a car that i can still take out to the track over the weekends just to have some fun.

[StepN2Boost]

Haha...yes my lack of VQ knowledge proceeds me. I'm happy to know I got peep to keep my noob ass in line :Ownedd:

[mechavore884]

Research...do you want an old POS car or a newer car with a POS engine?

that comment made my day HAHAHHAHHAA

[dragonbreath]

Oh FYI if you do get a z33 and plan on drifting it, stay away from the Base models. They dont have VLSD found out the hard way.. and if you just say that youll just swap the diff well only one company makes a 2way that fits the Open diff pumpkin. OK have a good day

If you are building an all out drift car a base wouldnt be a bad choice. They are cheaper. The pumpkins are all the same on the open diff and VLSD's. The only differences are the output shafts/axle stubs. Swap those out and you can use any diff you want.

IMO I would also go with a 350z. They are getting easier to find for pretty cheap. I bought an 03 touring with 55k miles in 09 for 14.5k. Like earlier stated they are a good bang for the buck cars.

Dont get me wrong, I like the RX8 a lot, but it will definitely be a money pit. Aftermarket parts are "slim pickens" as some say in the south. Cold start issues and fuel flooding if you dont let the car warm up every time you start it. Too much of a hassle if your going to be a daily as well. Keep in mind I have never owned a RX8 these are just things that I have read.

I would lurk around the RX8 forums and do a little more research so you can make a better informed decision based on your needs.

[MrSanchez925]

Rx8! They are bad ass on a road course.

[jamescarter]

Your better off with the devil you know than the devil you dont!

[Kuma]

I just recently got stationed in south korea, so i had to sell my 89 240. I just want some opinions on if i should get a 95-98 240 rebuild it or get a rx8 when i get back stateside. I love the 240 but i would also like something newer im trying to stay under 15k and a car with low miles. Thanks


funk that, grow the fuck up and get a grand national or stay the fuck in korea.

[ixfxi]

i would never own a mazda again, ever. worst fucking cars.


whatever you do, just buy something new(er)

[Edwin562]

when it comes to choose cars, i picture the cars as famous hot movie star based on how the car looks, s14 Zenki look like that crazy bitch from twilight, and the rx8 looks like lucy lou, with that in mind, which one would u bang??? thats how i choose cars. :)

[tub53025]

I have a pure stock 98 s14 with front and rear tanabe sway bars and ebay front and rear strut bars. Thats enough to enjoy my commute as a daily driver. I get better handling with a full tank of gas; when low, its still very stable.

Only down fall I have is the lack of power, but that comes with any car after driving it for some time. The suspension needs to be beefed up too.

IMO the RX8 is an overall better car, but has this cockiness to it. S14 Kouki has an aggressive look but passes as unique because of its rarity. You are what you drive.

[driftsucky]

95-98 240 isn't in the same category as the RX8. I hate Mazda and I think they're shitty but I never owned an RX8. I had a Mazda6 for a time and while everything that broke, broke on Mazda's dime, there was a solid 7 months (LITERALLY) I didn't drive that car. So I'm biased. From what I've read, they're finicky.

That aside, if you want a more modern fun to drive RWD car and you've got 15k to spend, your options aren't really limited. Both 350Z's and G35's can be had for that much. You can get Mustang GT's for that as well. 08-09. Sure, it only has the 4.6.l but that only sux in comparison to other V8's. It's not a beast, but it ain't bad. You may even be able to slip up on a G8 GT.

You've got some options though. As much as I love the 240, that isn't really a factor if you want something more modern.

[simmode1]

I went through this decision as well... You gotta ask yourself: What are your power goals? What level of HP will you be happy with and much much does it take it get there?

With bolt ons, you're going to be making about 220hp to the wheels with the RX8. Want more? Gotta go turbo. Talk about pain in the ass. I hope you're planning of becoming adept with rebuilding rotaries.

I agree with the guys saying go newer with something like the 350Z. The Z can realistically put 280hp and good torque to the wheels with simple bolt ons and a tune. More if you wanna swap cams. Combined with a 3.980 or 4.08 final drive and you have a decently quick car that is pretty reliable. Want more power though? The VQ loves supercharging. But I'd rather nitrous, personally.

Right now, I'm shopping for a Rev up Z. Some ppl are scared off by their oil burning reputation but they don't all burn oil and topping off oil levels isn't all that hard. The Rev up responds a tad bit better to mods than the earlier VQ. I'll take my chances on the oil burning situation.

[PRADOgy]

Sorry, we're just all ate up...where the fuck have you been the last year or so?!?!
haha word..

Yeah been a minute, thought I can drive a normal car and focus on music production solely... pffffft What was I thinking. Picked up an 86 and starting to come around a lot more often :)

[DEMo]

I went through this decision as well... You gotta ask yourself: What are your power goals? What level of HP will you be happy with and much much does it take it get there?

With bolt ons, you're going to be making about 220hp to the wheels with the RX8. Want more? Gotta go turbo. Talk about pain in the ass. I hope you're planning of becoming adept with rebuilding rotaries.

I agree with the guys saying go newer with something like the 350Z. The Z can realistically put 280hp and good torque to the wheels with simple bolt ons and a tune. More if you wanna swap cams. Combined with a 3.980 or 4.08 final drive and you have a decently quick car that is pretty reliable. Want more power though? The VQ loves supercharging. But I'd rather nitrous, personally.

Right now, I'm shopping for a Rev up Z. Some ppl are scared off by their oil burning reputation but they don't all burn oil and topping off oil levels isn't all that hard. The Rev up responds a tad bit better to mods than the earlier VQ. I'll take my chances on the oil burning situation.

You don't want a revup, unless it was manufactured after 04/06 IIRC. Those are less prone to oil consumption. The consumption is bad about 1 quart per 1-2k miles in most cases. Just get the non-revup DE or HR. Also, N/A power does not come cheap and is almost pointless. I am @ 290hp/286tq (mustang dyno) at the same cost as an FI setup. If you want power, just go FI off the bat.

[laurentj23]

Buy my covertible z. Im trying to get out of payments!

[NismoS13Chuki]

A friend of mine owned an RX8, and it was prone to loads of problems. In the short year he had it, the 13bmsp blew up twice. Also the RX8 hates oil changes. We had one at work come in as a trade, and they serviced it the damn thing wouldn't start afterwards. Come to find Mazda put out a technical bullentin acknowledging the problem but with no fix. They deemed the issue to be lack of compression from oil pressure loss. Needless to say it took a good 1-2hrs to get the thing started back up

[OBEEWON]

Hey guy, just so you know RX-8 is possibly the worst car ever made.

I owned one and drove it for 2 days. Put it up for sale on day three and sold it on day four.

It takes talent to make a car that has no power AND gets bad gas mileage.
The seats feel like they are trying to vomit you at all times. It also sounds like a can of bees in the trap.

240 with a billion miles mops it up.

[PRADOgy]

Hey guy, just so you know RX-8 is possibly the worst car ever made.

I owned one and drove it for 2 days. Put it up for sale on day three and sold it on day four.

It takes talent to make a car that has no power AND gets bad gas mileage.
The seats feel like they are trying to vomit you at all times. It also sounds like a can of bees in the trap.

240 with a billion miles mops it up.


That 13b sounds sexy as hell man..




Peeps, just know rx8 is no rx7... ya know? lol Family sports car, what more where you expecting. Still a decent amount of hp out of a 1.3.. And yes, not knowing about gas milage, its use of oil and everything else that comes with it is entirely the buyers fault lol..

Don't get it, then bitch about it. Blame yourself for lack of research before making such a purchase that costs thousands of dollars.

[Wig92]

I had an rx8 for 2 years. Sold it to get an s13.

Make ur own decision but I don't regret my decision at all.

[OBEEWON]

Milk was a bad choice...
Have you driven one or are you just a nerd? I raced a riding mower and lost. Briggs and Straton makes a better engine.


I bought it to flip. Made money. There is a reason Mazda stopped making them.

[driftsucky]

.... It also sounds like a can of bees in the trap...
http://fc.img.v4.skyrock.net/7036/77367036/pics/3091570341_1_3_8aBw2ZyA.gif

yeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeaaaahhhhhh

[OBEEWON]

+2

didn't think anyone would catch that.

[PRADOgy]

Have you driven one or are you just a nerd? I raced a riding mower and lost. Briggs and Straton makes a better engine.


I bought it to flip. Made money. There is a reason Mazda stopped making them.

Both.. lol


Was just talking through experience, logic (atleast imo). No pun intended.

[PRADOgy]

There is a reason Mazda stopped making them.

Well of course. Doesn't mean they stopped forever now ;)

[driftsucky]

I am on a constant hunt to justify putting up pictures of Nikki Minaj's ass on the internet. lol

[OBEEWON]

On the real. Best thing about that car is it handles excellent. Feels lighter than it is.
Everything else sucks. Even the proportions look kinda weird.

[driftsucky]

I've driven a couple and found nothing wrong with them. That said, I found nothing great enough to want to own one (especially given my Mazda experience).

[Wig92]

Have you driven one or are you just a nerd? I raced a riding mower and lost. Briggs and Straton makes a better engine.


I bought it to flip. Made money. There is a reason Mazda stopped making them.

The same reason Nissan stopped making 350Zs. It was a dated model, sales dropped, and it was time for the next model.

[fliprayzin240sx]

The same reason Nissan stopped making 350Zs. It was a dated model, sales dropped, and it was time for the next model.

I fail to see how you're comparing the 350z to the RX-8. Mazda axed the RX-8 cuz it sucked, and they didnt get enough sales. 350z didnt get axed, it just evolved into the 370z. Production never stopped. Some people today still prefer the handling of the 350z over the 370z.

Besides, the 350z stopped selling not because they sucked, it was because the economy went down the shitter and everybody stopped buying cars in general. Even now, car sales of the all 370z hasnt even reached the number of 350z sold in its first year of production.

2004 350z = 36k sold
2009-2011 370z = 30k sold

[1on1]

I just recently got stationed in south korea, so i had to sell my 89 240. I just want some opinions on if i should get a 95-98 240 rebuild it or get a rx8 when i get back stateside. I love the 240 but i would also like something newer im trying to stay under 15k and a car with low miles. Thanks

Ok well thank you for the ones that gave me their opinion and everybody else can go eat a dick. I have done research i just wanted a few opinions on the subject and im just looking for a well balanced car that will take me to and from work and a car that i can still take out to the track over the weekends just to have some fun.

/end thread.

For future reference, don't start threads if YOU can't DECIDE for yourself. If you really can't decide, then ask in the SMALL QUESTIONS THREAD.

[OBEEWON]

Fox News said that the RX-8 is the reason Mazda killed the rotary.

Fox never lies.

Japan doesn't even like them. They bought 963 Rx-8's in 2011.

[fliprayzin240sx]

Shit, there's probably still more FDs running around Japan right now than RX-8s sold worldwide.

[drift freaq]

haha word..

Yeah been a minute, thought I can drive a normal car and focus on music production solely... pffffft What was I thinking. Picked up an 86 and starting to come around a lot more often :)


hmmmm part of this sound real familiar except I have not picked up an 86. LOL

Oh and I am stuck with a middle of the build 240 that I most likely will have to finish. LOL

Of course I am thinking hard about getting a Z.

The same reason Nissan stopped making 350Zs. It was a dated model, sales dropped, and it was time for the next model.

Ya Nissan stopped making the 350 because yes its model cycle was done. That part you got right. The part about dropping sales you got wrong. Sales had nothing to do with it beyond Cycle timing.
Nissan product cycles run 3-6 years depending on models.

For instance the Datsun 510 first came out in 1968 and ran until 1973 5 years. the S30 240Z came out in 1970 and was sold until 1973. The anomaly in this that would reflect your sales argument would have been the S30 260Z which was only made one year 1974. It was heavier and did not have enough power. The 280z was brought out in 1975 because of this. Of course all of these were based on the S30 chassis but with modifications for crash safety standards that raised the weight of the cars significantly.
Hence the 240Z s30 being the most desirable because its lighter.

Though to say Nissan killed the 350 because of sales? LOL The 370 is actually a better vehicle in performance and handling in comparison to the 350Z yet its sales have lagged behind the 350z but Nissan is still making it. By your own statement above Nissan should kill it already, though it came out in the middle of a deep recession where all car sales where off,especially sports car sales.
Unless you live where I do where things defy economics. :rofl:

OP should buy a Z and call it a day. Don't bother with the Ugly RX8! Ya I called the car ugly, it is so there!

[derek king]

rx8 all day. Most fun car to drive besides a turbo miata. Obviously needs a kick up in power and thats achievable keeping it N/A.

[PRADOgy]

hmmmm part of this sound real familiar except I have not picked up an 86. LOL

Oh and I am stuck with a middle of the build 240 that I most likely will have to finish. LOL

Of course I am thinking hard about getting a Z.


Nice! I know some one on here said they hope I am not one of those douche bags that say " studio this or studio that" haha but truth is.. I do get locked up in the studio for this and that :/

Beatport (http://www.beatport.com/#search?query=dayv)

There ya go!

Music is simply not enough, Car biz is just so much fun. Now finish that 240 ! lol then get the z ;)

[drift freaq]

Nice! I know some one on here said they hope I am not one of those douche bags that say " studio this or studio that" haha but truth is.. I do get locked up in the studio for this and that :/

Beatport (http://www.beatport.com/#search?query=dayv)

There ya go!

Music is simply not enough, Car biz is just so much fun. Now finish that 240 ! lol then get the z ;)

cool shit man, though I lean towards stuff that is currently less underground. Its part of being a Producer.

I still do the random Drum N Bass tracks from time to time though.

[ixfxi]

dave.............................................. ...


finish your fucking car already.

[mendozasport]

http://img9.imageshack.us/img9/4527/rx82jz.jpg

this

[PRADOgy]

dave.............................................. ...


finish your fucking car already.

I will this time!

[iamthewinner]

^^ are u Dave?

[dontxploitme]

Has anyone said s2k? Cause if not... S2k lol

[Waveous72]

Thank you Im gonna go 240 stick what i know and not worry about the rotary. And im surprised on how some people talk to somebody thats in the army living in korea. Yeah youre welcome.

[soreballz]

And im surprised on how some people talk to somebody thats in the army living in korea. Yeah youre welcome.
Nobody cares.

[iamthewinner]

Your not in north so what should we thank for mofo.

[NismOkatFreaK]

Your not in north so what should we thank for mofo.
He enlisted to fight for our freedom, asshole. Have some respect!

[iamthewinner]

What freedom lol south has been independent

[soreballz]

He enlisted to fight for our freedom, asshole. Have some respect!
Misguided reasons for enlisting aside... With an attitude like he has, he doesn't deserve respect.

[track_warrior]

^^^^ truth. Why don't you put your big boy pants on and practice what us men call, "making your own decisions".

Douches like you ruin car forums

[billiam]

You have owned a 240 before, why in gods name would you ever wanna own another one?

[Kuma]

And im surprised on how some people talk to somebody thats in the army living in korea. Yeah youre welcome.

Thanks for demanding respect for getting paid to hang out in Korea and ask retarded questions on the internet while soldiers are dying in the middle east... Really.... No really, thank you.

Misguided reasons for enlisting aside... With an attitude like he has, he doesn't deserve respect.

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/0/0f/Exactly.png

[iamthewinner]

Lol at "hang out" in korea. kuma kilt it hahah

[davetokes50z]

He's not asking for anybody to make the decision for him, but rather seeking councel/opinion of his peers.

OP, personally I would go for the 240 out of the two. If you wanna go rotary, get an Fd, but age wise that would be no better than the 240. I know you can pick up a decent 350z for around 15k, there's a pretty decent inventry of those out there. And it would afford you the chance to try a straight 6 on for size. Anyhow...food for thought.

true story im selling one for 9500 whats good? :cj:
na but seriously you dumb ass kids ruin threads disrespecting everybody

[ralphandthequeen]

He enlisted to fight for our freedom, asshole. Have some respect!

hahahahaaha he probably enlisted for a pay check.

[OBEEWON]

He enlisted to fight for our freedom, asshole. Have some respect!

1. We were never free.
2. No one was threatening our non freedom in Korea
3. KA-T's suck

1J/2J RX8 with aftermarket seats would be nice.

[SupaDoopa]

Thank you Im gonna go 240 stick what i know and not worry about the rotary. And im surprised on how some people talk to somebody thats in the army living in korea. Yeah youre welcome.

Listen, POG, don't go on the internet playing the military card. Korea is a joke. It's a duty station. There is no war there. There are no fire fights. You get pissed when the BK runs out of sweet potato fries. Coming from an 11B that just got medevac'd from Afghanistan fighting for these dudes on the forum that respect us without even knowing those who went over and fought [because we don't go on here posting about how hard life is in fucking Korea of all places], I advise you buy your RX-8, go join the rotary forums, and delete your account.

I absolutely hate douchers that play that card. No one has sympathy. You signed up to be a cook or fueler or whatever stupid job you have. Us real guys will handle the business. You handle getting in trouble for smoking spice and other dudes poles.

/end.

[fliprayzin240sx]

Wow...did he just really pull the respect me cuz I'm in the military BS flag? The fuck does that have to do with anything in a fucking car forum?!?! Go fucking cry about it to Kim Jong Un...

[OBEEWON]

He died for your freedom BRO.
Saved you from your sins.
Don't tread on him.

[enkei2k]

you're a grown man. Make your own decision.

/end thread

^^^^ truth. Why don't you put your big boy pants on and practice what us men call, "making your own decisions".

Thank you Im gonna go 240 stick what i know and not worry about the rotary. And im surprised on how some people talk to somebody thats in the army living in korea. Yeah youre welcome.

with that said

:lockd: