"S13" Advice Needed.

[S13GORG]

I'm planning on purchasing an S13 Coupe. My plan for the car is going to be a daily / drift car. I'm planning on making it a RHD, with a KA-T. I'm trying to look for a car that has a Clean Interior, Majority of the Manual S13's or 240's are Stripped, and Gutted. Most of the cars with the Clean Interiors are Automatic. I need your guy's advice, Should I pick up an Automatic S13, Then get the RHD, and Motor Swap, or should I pay more to get a Manual S13 with a Clean Interior. Because no matter what i'm going to get a RHD/Motor Conversion Done. If I switch from Auto to Manual, will I experience any problems since the car wasn't originally a Manual? If you have any suggestions, or know the best solution for my plan, please just reply to my thread. Thanks so much for taking your time to read my thread.

-Mark

[Kevin920415]

Why you want a RHD?
RHD scene is way gonee..
Why not get a stock shell?

[S13GORG]

RHD is the way I wanna go, I don't really care if it's dead, i'm not trying to be like everyone else.
So your saying I should get a RHD S13 Shell?
Because like I said, it would probably take me a really long time to find one with a Good Interior.
I really care about the Interior because I plan on having people in my car when i'm not on the track.

[naw_speed]

really?!.....
i will take time out of my day to help you....
1) save money
2) buy a "running and drivable" 240sx
3) save money
4) buy a full front s13 clip "with motor, dash, and body panels"
5) save money
do you see a pattern erupting here??

you seem more concerned with purchasing a clean unmolested 240sx when your going to gut the damn thing anyway to build your so called rhd dream car.... buy a 240 drive it and enjoy the time it takes to build it. i have over 30k in my 240 and enjoyed every moment of the 7 years it took to get to this point. no it does not matter if you get a auto or manual. very easy to convert.. have fun..

[camry]

RHD is the way I wanna go, I don't really care if it's dead, i'm not trying to be like everyone else.
So your saying I should get a RHD S13 Shell?
Because like I said, it would probably take me a really long time to find one with a Good Interior.
I really care about the Interior because I plan on having people in my car when i'm not on the track.

So why bother getting an S13? You're asking for advice and these guys are giving you sound advice but you refuse to listen. Get an s13, drive the way it is. You'll appreciate the upgrades more later on.

[Kingtal0n]

Interior parts change easily, so dont worry too much about the interior of the vehicle.

Focus on the chassis. get a clean rust free dent free car.

[S13GORG]

Thanks @naw_speed I really appreciate it. You helped me out a lot. I'm probably going to stick with that plan :) Oh no, I have no plan on gutting it at all. I plan on keeping the interior :)

@Camry I wasn't trying to be mean or anything? I appreciate the advice he gave me, I was just stating that I wanted mine to be RHD. Sorry if I seemed a little harsh or something @Kevin920415.

@Kingtal0n Wouldn't it be really hard to find interior parts that are in still good condition? And if it was in good condition, wouldn't it be kind of pricey?

Thanks again for replying to my Thread, I really appreciate your replies. :)

[fliprayzin240sx]

If you're gonna change it to a RHD, why the hell would the interior matter much? If you're baller enough to do a full RHD conversion, replacing anything else interior wise will be fucking cake. Same shit with converting it from auto to manual. You cant use 240sx LHD pedals if you go RHD. You're gonna have to do the hardest part about the manual swap, pedals.

But I'm gonna play Devils Advocate here, why do you insist on going RHD when it has absolutely no added benefit, specially being in a country where everything is Right Hand Driving oriented? Making U-turns will fucking suck, kiss ATMs and drive thrus good bye...etc.

[df3kt760]

If you're gonna change it to a RHD, why the hell would the interior matter much? If you're baller enough to do a full RHD conversion, replacing anything else interior wise will be fucking cake. Same shit with converting it from auto to manual. You cant use 240sx LHD pedals if you go RHD. You're gonna have to do the hardest part about the manual swap, pedals.

But I'm gonna play Devils Advocate here, why do you insist on going RHD when it has absolutely no added benefit, specially being in a country where everything is Right Hand Driving oriented? Making U-turns will fucking suck, kiss ATMs and drive thrus good bye...etc.

theres a solution to atms and drive thrus you drive in reverse lol

[S13GORG]

@fliprayzin240sx the reason why it's important to me is because, it's also going to be my daily as well, i'm going to have people in the car. Yeah, i'm only 19 working $8 an hour. I'm not that baller lol, i'm going to save up for the front clip, and do the RHD and the motor swap at the same time to save money and time. Wouldn't the people who are going to do the conversion do the pedals also? I thought about it throughly already, it's something i've been wanting do for a really long time. I'm willing to go through all the trouble to have a RHD car. I really appreciate your concern tho, but i guess if it ever does fail that i hate driving RHD, it will be on me, thanks for the warning :)

@df3kt760 LOL, that sound's pretty boss if you ask me. Imagine seeing that shit?

[Javi802]

i have a friend doing a RHD swap on a convertible, he cut the firewall from his front clip, and the convertible, and welded the RHD firewall in…

Don't know if you have to do it this way, or if its easier.

But definitely going to take a lot of saving, and a lot of not driving the car for a good while at the wages you're making.
Unless you're sponsored by mom and pa

[Javi802]

soo, your interior will most likely get somewhat fucked in the process

[dil han]

buy a clean shell inside and out with a blown motor (probably cheap), gut the front from front seats to head lights, do the the conversion and start piecing the rhd interior together such as door panels, carpet, wiring....

swap your motor in and drive it.

[dizzariot]

:picardfp:

RHD. That money could do soooooo much more for your S13...

[memphis180sx]

your gunna be spending every penny you make on a s13 and your only 19 wouldnt school be more important ? But 240s in general are the biggest pieces of junk to daily they rattle even when the car hasnt been messed with then you add coils and suspension those rattles will never go away ive had about five of them loved them for a weekend/track car but that was it. trust me i tried to daily drive mine and it didnt work full interior an everything. if i were you i would be getting like a civic or something along those lines there realiable and insurence isn't bad at all. Im not trying to tell you what to do but i dont want you regret ever making a 240 a daily. i had the money to daily drive mine but my 2011 gmc serria is a little more comfy lol.

[240sxDavid]

Might as well move to japan bro

[myKAl]

depending on the shell, some are bare, some are straight up no trans no motor, obviously go for the powerless shell, sohc, doubt itll matter since it has no motor but if it does it might be cheaper just because it housed a single cam.

buy rhd clip and swap, if youre baller youll buy one with a motor

OR

buy single cam then buy rhd clip

[coupesallday!]

obviously he's not balling (no offense) but rhd clips are $2500+
and you still have to buy the car and find someone that you have to pay alot of money to cut and weld everything.

[DJ-of-E]

Thanks @naw_speed I really appreciate it. You helped me out a lot. I'm probably going to stick with that plan :) Oh no, I have no plan on gutting it at all. I plan on keeping the interior :)

@Camry I wasn't trying to be mean or anything? I appreciate the advice he gave me, I was just stating that I wanted mine to be RHD. Sorry if I seemed a little harsh or something @Kevin920415.

Two things come to mind.

Is this going to be a serious track car build? I remember I use to be like you and want to keep my interior...until I got serious about weight shedding. Probably a bad choice on my part to do it on a hatchback as well :Ownedd: I had a second 240sx a year later for daily and smog check reasons, because daily track car got tiresome after a few weeks. That and tired of going really slow on dips.

I borrowed a car that was RHD...I remembered people warning about driving in the U.S. with RHD, you have no idea how badly bind and how RHD unfriendly it gets, especially living in L.A. with all those yield left turns. Few too many close calls to IMO.

[xh3nry]

My advice would be to make sure you have an alternative transportation. With doing RHD and working on your s13... there's going to be a lot of down time. Also i wouldn't recommend doing a KA-T build, with the amount of attention you will be getting from people, you will be getting from the police. If they can't ding you for your RHD conversion, then they will get you for something else (Illegal motor mods, being too low, modified exhaust... etc). So what i'm trying to say is if you want to go RHD you should make the rest of your car as stock as possible to balance out the fact that you're on the wrong side of the car. I do support your dreams though, just know that it will take months to get your car where you want it.

[KoukiFc90]

Just buy a running S13. Save your money for future upgrades/plans. You dont want to buy a running S13 then just have it parked in your garage or whatever for who knows how long. Why waste a good car having it parked instead of driving it daily ?
Bottom line, keep daily and save money.

[xh3nry]

1. Buy a decently clean body, running car. ($1500-$2000)
*Just get a 5 speed so that you won't have to buy another tranny later*

2. Buy a tool box if you don't already have one (Craftmans at Sears come with a life time warranty and you are paying for quality tools.) ($300)

3. Buy a RHD clip (mainly just need the firewall) with all the neccesary parts. ($175-$500)

4. Do a compression check on your engine and just test and feel if it's still good.
*If it's all good then you won't have to rebuild your engine, but if somethings off, might as well replace it while the engines already out.*

5. Gather all your buddies and look up guides and pull your engine out, and everything out of the way to reduce the cost and work for your welder. Buy a cherry picker to do this ($45-$100 off craigslist)

6. Hire a RHD welder to convert it for you ($700-$1200)

And now after months of work and not being able to drive your car... it's finally done.

[davirene]

i have a friend doing a RHD swap on a convertible, he cut the firewall from his front clip, and the convertible, and welded the RHD firewall in…

Don't know if you have to do it this way, or if its easier.


Yes it is better to cut the whole firewall end to end and weld it in.....I was looking at a conversion and the guy just cut holes for the pedals.....well the whole wall would flex because the right side isnt reinforced for the pedals and he had all these rust marks from the original holes that were partially filled in.

Looked like crap.....and the guy was trying to trade back for a LHD drive because the cops kept harassing him.

To each his own......You need to buy a daily and a project car to make your life easier.....so good luck.

[S13GORG]

Thanks everyone for you feedback and everything :) All of your advice really helped me out a lot. A guy on Zilvia informed me that, If I did get a Clean Title S13, And I converted it to RHD and registered it at the DMV as a RHD car, That they will change the title from Clean to Salvage is that True? Because if that is what's going to happen, I'm just going to look for a Salvaged Title Car to buy.

[S13GORG]

I'm going to upload a picture of how I want the interior to look like.

[S13GORG]

http://a4.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-ash4/414898_10150587253464184_2094451283_o.jpg

[KoukiFc90]

http://a4.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-ash4/414898_10150587253464184_2094451283_o.jpg

Wait, its not RHD. See, you can have a clean looking car. I would personally rather do this instead of wasting a whole bunch of cash on a RHD.

[xh3nry]

That's a super clean interior. If you get caught with unmatching vin numbers on your door jams, dash, and engine bay, your car is automatically salvaged.

[naw_speed]

That's a super clean interior. If you get caught with unmatching vin numbers on your door jams, dash, and engine bay, your car is automatically salvaged.
correct! even in the state of TX it is the same.

and love the pic of someone else interor. way to shot for the moon.

[fliprayzin240sx]

19 yr old making $8 an hour, living in socal, with his priorities all kinds of fucked up. This car will have the potential for greatness!!!

[S13GORG]

@fliprayzin240sx thanks :)

[SlammedS13Tx]

do a thread of the process :D lol

[thefro526]

This entire process confuses me.

The logic behind RHD is the same for you as everyone else I've ever met with an RHD car - 'I want to be different'. Wanting to different is actually being the same because everyone wants to be different... but I digress.

Why KA-T? Is there some specific reason? Because you live in Cali? I don't know what it's like out there, but I'd assume that if you've got an RHD car with a turbo motor, you're asking for trouble unless you put a massive amount of effort into making it look 'stock'...

Since you're pretty much digging a hole for yourself as is, why not go SR? My reasoning behind this option is simple: Buy an S13 SR front clip.... It'll come with an RHD Dash, Pedals, BMC, Brake Lines, Brake Booster, Steering Rack, etc and come with an SR. A stock SR with minor bolt-ons will make about as much power as a 'sleeper' KA-T will...

Just some food for thought.

[Croustibat]

Basically we got a new JDM tyte yo dorifto kingo that cant earn a living but want a 1000HP daily drive which can also drift AND be economical AND reliable AND different by going RHD.

Wont happen, or will stay ages in a shed then will get sold as an unfinished project...

Do things in that order:

1/get a cheap daily until you get a real job
2/once you got money, realise you dont have any prior experience to modifying cars and spend 3 years learning or get a road legal car

Alternatively you could just spend your money on beers with friends and find a girl. These are pretty cool things to do in life, much better than spending 3 years in a shed accomplishing nothing.

[Kaomon]

here dude!! this is your chance to make it a reality!! You better dig for those pennies! This will motivate you to get going; i know you stated that you don't have a s13 yet, but this will sure as hell make you want to buy one if you buy this if youre serious about this!!! good luck!

http://zilvia.net/f/sale-items/471136-s13-rhd-clip-200-pick-up-los-angeles.html

[Walperstyle]

$8/hr. You are not ready to get into motorsports.

Never get serious into Motorsports until you have a garage and house. Then, figure out the cost of your sports car hobby. THEN TIMES IT BY 4. The little costs add up really quick. Avoid racing/drifting a daily driver. If you break your car and can't get to work, you lose your job and then are forced to sell everything for a discounted price to ahole pricks on this forum.

If you disagree with me, that is ok, but I want you to come back in 10 years and read this post again if you go against what I'm saying.

Also, if you are serious, you will consider buying these dvd's. www.240sxtechdvds.org and downloading the FSM.

BTW, this is in the wrong section.

[stephens14sr]

Lol @ 8$ an hour and all these "plans" ohhhh kids these days.

[myKAl]

200 dollars for the rhd horry shit!

[FaLKoN240]

I predict he runs out of money before he even buys the turbo.

[SxMachine]

Put that $$$ into your MOTOR. No offense but it doesn't sound like you can afford 2 be different.