Nissan can't replace automatic seatbelt, now they want to buy my car!

[Southern Clown]

So earlier I was having issues with Nissan and them replacing the automatic seatbelts in my 89 s13. They told me that they could get the seatbelt from Japan a few weeks ago (full story here http://zilvia.net/f/chat/464971-having-issues-nissan-dealership-need-advice.html) and i just got a call from Nissan HQ saying they cannot find the seatbelt and they don't want me driving a car with a defected part that has a LIFETIME WARRANTY. But they will not tell me how they are going to put a price on the car, and they keep avioding the question everytime I ask.

Now in my time here on this forum i have realized that your all a bunch of dicks, in a good way i promise. Now I have heard that people here in california get a little sue happy and sue the crap out of companies for situations just like this. So in your expert opinion, should I just take what ever amount they give me and run with it, deny it and have them just fix the car and replace the seatbelt with a harness, or see how far a lawer can take this?

[illvialuver]

why the hell would you want that lame crap in your car in the first place? Just run s14 seatbelts. unless they want to give you 5000 for your car.

[brizanden]

with all the other issues not so much the seatbelt thing i would have started talking pictures etc and contacted a lawyer awhile ago to see if i have grounds for a case, but thats just me. you seem to have been more then nice and worked with them while they continually fucked up your car

[enkei2k]

So earlier I was having issues with Nissan and them replacing the automatic seatbelts in my 89 s13. They told me that they could get the seatbelt from Japan a few weeks ago (full story here http://zilvia.net/f/chat/464971-having-issues-nissan-dealership-need-advice.html) and i just got a call from Nissan HQ saying they cannot find the seatbelt and they don't want me driving a car with a defected part that has a LIFETIME WARRANTY. But they will not tell me how they are going to put a price on the car, and they keep avioding the question everytime I ask.

Now in my time here on this forum i have realized that your all a bunch of dicks, in a good way i promise. Now I have heard that people here in california get a little sue happy and sue the crap out of companies for situations just like this. So in your expert opinion, should I just take what ever amount they give me and run with it, deny it and have them just fix the car and replace the seatbelt with a harness, or see how far a lawer can take this?

Title is misleading to me, I see nowhere in your post that they say they want to buy your car. I see that you said:

they will not tell me how they are going to put a price on the car, and they keep avioding the question everytime I ask.

Please elaborate. From the looks of it, it sounds like they DON'T want to buy your car since they're avoiding the subject.

[ForeignMuscle]

The fuck? This makes zero sense. I'm with enkei, explain this better.

[FRpilot]

So in your expert opinion, should I just take what ever amount they give me and run with it, deny it and have them just fix the car and replace the seatbelt with a harness, or see how far a lawer can take this?

how the hell are you going to take their money and claim you didn't get it? I'm pretty sure they will have you sign something that says you accepted the money in exchange for the car and that will be the end of it. maybe you COULD DENY their offer of buying your car instead of fixing the seatbelts under their life time warranty and THEN sue them, but you can't take their money, say you weren't satisfied, and ask for more. I don't think nissan will be dumb enough to give you money without you signing something.

also, good luck suing a multi-billion dollar corporation. most likely they will try to settle with you out of court and since the parts are discontinued they will claim they tried to remedy the situation by buying the car from you and value it based on current market value (most likely using kbb).

in the end, i doubt you will follow through with this since it will take too much of your time and resources to pursue and i don't see you getting much out of it (unless you somehow have a major accident with injuries as a result of the faulty seatbelts) so this is just all hypothetical talk anyways.

[thisisastickup]

^you are idiot dood. he's saying run with it, like go along with it, as in take what they'll give him for the car and move on.

[fliprayzin240sx]

So they'll give you $900 for the car...thats fucking awesome.

Personally, what I would do would be, tell them to buy the car back like a trade in and use that to get a better car for your damn wife. I cant trust my wife to daily a 25 yr old car.

[EDacIouSX]

Now in my time here on this forum i have realized that your all a bunch of dicks, in a good way i promise.

Yea you fall into the zilvia category. You dick your wife over with a 22 year old car but HEY! at least it's in a good way, I promise. :hey:

[Hellother]

THere was some thread around about fair market value and if you can prove that you cannot purchase the same vehicle again with the kbb value then the insurance will honor somewhere near asking price of a similar vehicle.
Either way, find a used controller on here or replace your auto seatbelt's and quit being weird. Go to the junkyard and buy the sentra belt's for 20 bucks. Or get a harness. why would you lose your entire car because of auto seatbelt's that noone wants anyways and there are better alternatives readily available.
It honestly sounds like your trying to cash out on your 20 year old economy sports car. You really don't have a whole lot of grounds to sue on. They say lifetime warranty, they can't get the part. They did everything in their power to satisfy the warranty, and when they couldn't they offered to buy the car back. You not accepting the offer is relieving them of liability bc you knowingly denied their remedy and accepted responsability of a faulty system. Doesn't matter if it's true or not. Your legal fees to dig deep and figure out if their lying and actually do have the part is gonna cost more then you buying another car swapping it and dropping it on some 57d's.

[xh3nry]

Lol just buy replacements off Zilvia.... if you're on this forum, you might as well make use of it. This is ridiculous haha.

[aznfab213]

This op is a complete idiot!!! How hard is it to go to a freakin wrecking yard and doing it yourself. If you cannot fix seatbelts sell your car to someone that has more common sense. Go buy a honda or a toyota corolla problem solved. You are driving a 240 it isnt a mercedes or a lexus. No dealer should touch your car unless you are some lazy rich boy.

[shalezzz]

ill ship it to you for 100 bucks :2c:

[turbobrick]

get another one from a junkyard

get one from someone on here

switch to s14 seatbelts

A lot of options, not that hard.

[xPirate]

If its passenger side i'll give you mine.. i don't know where my seat went....

[ixfxi]

This op is a complete idiot!!! How hard is it to go to a freakin wrecking yard and doing it yourself. If you cannot fix seatbelts sell your car to someone that has more common sense. Go buy a honda or a toyota corolla problem solved. You are driving a 240 it isnt a mercedes or a lexus. No dealer should touch your car unless you are some lazy rich boy.

no, you are the fucking idiot. the people who get their cars serviced at the dealer chose to pay more because they have higher standards and dont want to sell for:
- possibility of dealing with a smaller shop that cannot perform proper repair
- risk of buying aftermarket parts that are inferior to oem

rarely do you hear or see a car get worked on at the dealer improperly. more often than not, the patch fixes are performed at smaller, shadier shops because they have nothing to lose. you get what you pay for. we all know that. is the dealer a ripoff? sure, we all love to say that. but remember, the dealer supplies OE parts and has the tools and skill to do practically anything. with that said............


Lol just buy replacements off Zilvia.... if you're on this forum, you might as well make use of it. This is ridiculous haha.

the point here is not to repair the belts with USED parts, its to repair with NEW parts. this is what nissan guaranteed us many many years ago, and this should have been incorporated into their business model for the usdm 240sx.

with that said, this sounds like an excellent opportunity to discuss with nissan about the possibility of them offering us a RETROFIT to fit vehicles with standard seatbelts. it would be fucking AWESOME if they can give us:
- standard belts
- B-pillar interior panels
- headliner

wow, how fucking rad would that be if we can get that. anyone care to press harder and see if nissan is willing to do that for us? at the very least, i would love to be able to even BUY these parts if they were available.

i would totally sign a waiver for the option of retrofitting to standard seatbelts w/ panel availability.

[KiLLeR2001]

with that said, this sounds like an excellent opportunity to discuss with nissan about the possibility of them offering us a RETROFIT to fit vehicles with standard seatbelts. it would be fucking AWESOME if they can give us:
- standard belts
- B-pillar interior panels
- headliner

wow, how fucking rad would that be if we can get that. anyone care to press harder and see if nissan is willing to do that for us? at the very least, i would love to be able to even BUY these parts if they were available.

i would totally sign a waiver for the option of retrofitting to standard seatbelts w/ panel availability.

They should be able to make the fastback manual seatbelt parts relatively easily since they were in production before. They'd have to create the panels for the coupe though since I don't believe manual seatbelts were ever an option on them.

[ZAKU]

Pretty sure the Japanese and Canadian market coupes had manual seatbelts.

[shalezzz]

So rocking a used automatic seat belt is less safe than driving around with a brand new oem on? Pretty sure that if you get in an accident in an s13 bad enough where it causes your seat belt to fail your prolly gonna have bigger problems.

Go find the newest looking seat belt you could find at a junk yard, get a reciept, and hope nissan reimburses you for it.

And Just curious what car warranty says the parts are replaced for life, they're only required by law to make oem replacement parts for 16 years after the production date ?

[booey13]

Pretty sure the Japanese and Canadian market coupes had manual seatbelts.

They sure did.

[Paint209]

sue the shit out of them bro!

[STEEZxIT]

http://i45.tinypic.com/n2eeyv.jpg

[ixfxi]

So rocking a used automatic seat belt is less safe than driving around with a brand new oem on? Pretty sure that if you get in an accident in an s13 bad enough where it causes your seat belt to fail your prolly gonna have bigger problems.

Go find the newest looking seat belt you could find at a junk yard, get a reciept, and hope nissan reimburses you for it.

And Just curious what car warranty says the parts are replaced for life, they're only required by law to make oem replacement parts for 16 years after the production date ?

no dude, you are like... totally clueless, BRO

used seatbelts are NOT AN OPTION when you're dealing with the dealer. what fucking dealer on planet earth offers or suggests to install USED PARTS as a proper repair? it doesnt work that way. dealers offer NEW OEM PARTS at NEW RETAIL PRICES. this is why you get shafted but ultimately end up with a proper repa............ why the fuck am i even wasting time with you, you're fired.


and honestly, read your user service manual. it specifically states that the motorized seatbelts are WARRANTIED FOR THE LIFE OF THE FUCKING CAR. here, dumbass:

http://www.nicoclub.com/articles/images/img013.jpg
http://www.nicoclub.com/archives/are-your-seat-belts-brokenget-them-fixed-for-free.html
(i cant believe i'm posting a link to NICO, uuuugh.. how low can we go)

anyone else here want to see manual seatbelts & interior panels available through nissan, speak up. this is such a good opportunity, i can only hope that it works out and doesnt turn into colossal failure like everything else 240sx related. :P

[Southern Clown]

So rocking a used automatic seat belt is less safe than driving around with a brand new oem on? Pretty sure that if you get in an accident in an s13 bad enough where it causes your seat belt to fail your prolly gonna have bigger problems.

Go find the newest looking seat belt you could find at a junk yard, get a reciept, and hope nissan reimburses you for it.

And Just curious what car warranty says the parts are replaced for life, they're only required by law to make oem replacement parts for 16 years after the production date ?

alright to answer your question, if you actually look in the back of your nissan service manual that came with the s 13 it states very clearly that the seat belts are warrantied for the life of the vehicle. There's no need to buy old used parts when nissan should replace it with brand new OEM parts. and since they cannot contractually agree to the promise they made to us as buyers they are now stuck between a rock and a hard place, that is why they said they want to buy my car back because they feel that the car is unsafe to drive. and by rock I mean a lawyer or them potentially getting sued if I do happen to have an accident in the vehicle and buy a hard place I mean getting a class action suit filed against them for not abiding by the lifetime warranty they set into place.
and it's not the fact that my wife is driving a 25 year old car the fact is she is driving a beautiful car point blank. I feel that a lot of people on this forum have for gotten the true essence of a vehicle. and as for taking 900 dollars for the vehicle as a payment you were out of your damn mind 100 bucks for seatbelt I can find them for 5 bucks it's not a problem of finding the equipment.

the fact of the matter is this nissan is gonna buy my car back regardless they have yet to give me a price because they're waiting on their team or staff of people to do the calculations to see how much the car is worth versus private value kbb value I don't know, I'm just waiting for a number. So I reiterate my previous question. If this happened to you what would you do, would you take the offer they give you for the price they deem the car is worth or tell them to fix everything wrong with the car, have the seat belts retrofitted and get all my repairs done for free. Or just try to sue the holy hell out of them for not coming through on their end of the deal for the lifetime warranty?

[Southern Clown]

with that said, this sounds like an excellent opportunity to discuss with nissan about the possibility of them offering us a RETROFIT to fit vehicles with standard seatbelts. it would be fucking AWESOME if they can give us:
- standard belts
- B-pillar interior panels
- headliner

wow, how fucking rad would that be if we can get that. anyone care to press harder and see if nissan is willing to do that for us? at the very least, i would love to be able to even BUY these parts if they were available.

i would totally sign a waiver for the option of retrofitting to standard seatbelts w/ panel availability.

great idea man if you have pictures of drawings or if you can explain a little bit better maybe next time I talk to nissan headquarters I can try to pitch this idea .

[Southern Clown]

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[myKAl]

you might be on track using something as ugly as auto seatbelts to sue nissan lol baller :fruit: hopefully it happens id like to see the outcome.


with that said, this sounds like an excellent opportunity to discuss with nissan about the possibility of them offering us a RETROFIT to fit vehicles with standard seatbelts. it would be fucking AWESOME if they can give us:
- standard belts
- B-pillar interior panels
- headliner

wow, how fucking rad would that be if we can get that. anyone care to press harder and see if nissan is willing to do that for us? at the very least, i would love to be able to even BUY these parts if they were available.

i would totally sign a waiver for the option of retrofitting to standard seatbelts w/ panel availability.

petition maybe, anyone? :boink:

[enkei2k]

that is why they said they want to buy my car back because they feel that the car is unsafe to drive.

the fact of the matter is this nissan is gonna buy my car back regardless

So I reiterate my previous question.

Where in your previous posts did you mention that they were going to buy the car back from you? I looked at your previous thread and it only mentioned you replacing the ECU for 100 if you bring your own, or 900 if replace the ECU for you.

Based on your original post, you only mention that they don't want you driving an unsafe vehicle. Nowhere did you mention that they were willing to buy the car back from you since you said they were avoiding it.

Or is it because this item comes with a lifetime warranty and that they are unable to warranty it so they're supposed to (not want to) buy the car back from you?

[240zach]

^ lol


i would also like to know how much nissan would try and buy that car off you for. most likely not a lot. lol

[Southern Clown]

Where in your previous posts did you mention that they were going to buy the car back from you? I looked at your previous thread and it only mentioned you replacing the ECU for 100 if you bring your own, or 900 if replace the ECU for you.

Based on your original post, you only mention that they don't want you driving an unsafe vehicle. Nowhere did you mention that they were willing to buy the car back from you since you said they were avoiding it.

Or is it because this item comes with a lifetime warranty and that they are unable to warranty it so they're supposed to (not want to) buy the car back from you?
I guess the title of this thread doesn't give you the information you seek in regards to the question you just asked. So I will break it down for you.

1st) I bring my car to dealership to have warrantied part replaced
2nd) Nissan calls me and says they can replace the seatbelt with a new one
3rd) Nissan realizes they cannot find the part
4th) Nissan calls me and says they are sorry they cannot find the part and would like to buy the car from me because it is unsafe.
5th) I come here and post new development

So I guess the real question should be, why would Nissan try and buy a whole car and not just replace the broken part that you all feel is easily replaceable.

[Southern Clown]

^ lol


i would also like to know how much nissan would try and buy that car off you for. most likely not a lot. lol

How much do you want to sell your car to me for? D you think Nissan will give you that price if this happen to you? No? Then STFU! These cars are soon to be classics and I'm trying to keep mine, but if Nissan offers me a good deal then why not?

[hartig]

So I guess the real question should be, why would Nissan try and buy a whole car and not just replace the broken part that you all feel is easily replaceable.

maybe because your car scares them and they want it off the road?

[ixfxi]

How much do you want to sell your car to me for? D you think Nissan will give you that price if this happen to you? No? Then STFU! These cars are soon to be classics and I'm trying to keep mine, but if Nissan offers me a good deal then why not?

relax bub

these cars are far from classics. maybe one day kurruptr, toby, damon, me? we might get a pretty penny for our resto-mods. you guys aint getting jack shit with your megan coilovers, isis manifold, junk parts that dont last more than 3 years i can only imagine clean cars getting a good dollar.

with that said, a 240sx is not worth much - dont expect the dealer to offer you anything serious for a car that cost 15-20k new. they'll probably turn it around into a fair credit towards another car on the lot.


honestly, i really dont see why they cant supply the parts - the motor, tracking, belt - all of that they had HUGE surplus on. i recall getting my seatbelts replaced NUMEROUS times at the dealer... but this was like 10 years ago. my point, nowadays they still should have these parts available. and, making another batch of these parts should be pocket change for them.

with that said, it would be totally preferable if they would allow the canadian manual seatbelt parts and covers available for us here in the US. the main problem I see with this, is the cost of the panels. interior panels have always been unrealistically priced (even for me). i think the dash was near 1000 bucks, the center console like 400. all of that shit is SO expensive, probably because its difficult to store.

[Southern Clown]

Now I know that they are not classics now, but soon. A few years don't matter to me, it's gonna take that long to restore and find all the missing pieces. And I totally agree with you on the fact of a modded car vs an all original non modded cars price.

[SoCalDrifter]

im about to take my car in for this once i get it running today i wonder what there gunna tell me.... Do you think it matters since i have skyline seats and not stock s13 seats?

[AsleepAltima]

this is why you get shafted but ultimately end up with a proper repa............ why the fuck am i even wasting time with you, you're fired.
lmao

/thread.

[EnemyS15]

INCOMING ....http://i.chzbgr.com/completestore/2009/10/16/129001698233627385.jpg

[Kaomon]

hmmm sounds like a predicament for you, sorry to hear all your troubles.

I know someone stated about using s14 seat belts before in this thread and that being said is it possible to persuade the dealer to replace the s13 automatic seat belts for s14 ones since they can't get you the ones you need? Idk how the dealer would feel about interchanging parts from one car to another, but it's a suggestion that's worth a shot...

[greenwood]

SOUTHERN CLOWN IS A BITCH:mrmeph:

[Southern Clown]

well that comment is not very helpful now is it?

[240zach]

i thought it was pretty helpful

[Southern Clown]

well then I guess that settles it. No help here, mod please close the thread.

[BOROSUN]

you should tell them hurry up and produce the next gen S chassis. then get a discount off for trading your car.

[atom]

Going to court is dumb. No judge is gonna make them replace the belt if a reasonable alternative is presented. Buying back the car at fair value is more than reasonable.

[omgRWDgoodness!]

All of this is making me really glad I have an S14.

[!Zar!]

Is the, 'lifetime warranty' even transferable?

[ixfxi]

Is the, 'lifetime warranty' even transferable?

Zar, its a safety device and therefor fully transferable to ANY owner.

[BossHogg]

I went and tried to get a new motor, they said those are not covered but the actual seat belt itself is. But they did replace some other shit that kept my seat belt light on and did some old school recall on it for free. Then they put it to where the motorized shoulder strap stayed in the back position. That way all you had to do was manually click it in. It passed safety inspection and that is all I really cared about.

[Matej]

Would anyone happen to know what the part numbers are for the Canadian manual seat belts?
I just acquired a used set, but I wondered if it is possible to still buy them new from Canadian dealerships.

[Scope240sx]

I think the question is do you want the car or not? Don't be naive and think NISSAN is going to throw a bunch of money at you for this car, they won't. Plain and simple.
Okay so your other plan is to possible SUE NISSAN. Alright, so you wanna dance with Nissan? Yeah good luck with that. C'mon either sell the car private sale or keep it. Nissan isn't going to give you anything worth consideration and NO you will not win anything in court. Plain and simple.

[ixfxi]

I went and tried to get a new motor, they said those are not covered but the actual seat belt itself is. But they did replace some other shit that kept my seat belt light on and did some old school recall on it for free. Then they put it to where the motorized shoulder strap stayed in the back position. That way all you had to do was manually click it in. It passed safety inspection and that is all I really cared about.

wrong

WRONG WRONG WRONG

the seatbelt covers ALL OF THE ELECTRICAL SEATBELT SYSTEM. EVERYTHING.

motor
rail
wiring
belt and the fucking buckle

EVERYTHING

ive had them change all that many years ago. get with the program, G. if they dont want to do the work, one call to NISSAN customer relations will confirm that the dealer is FUCKING WRONG.


READ THE FUCKING IMAGE, JACKASS
http://www.nicoclub.com/articles/images/img013.jpg

[EnnEssEnnKAT]

Sorry to revisit an old thread but for those who can offer their opinion it's much appreciated.


I'm in the same situation with north america nissan. They were unable to repair my fraying, dying seat belts in my 1992 hatch but they did advise me the lifetime warranty is in fact valid for our cars. They are asking to repurchase the vehicle from me.

Unfortunately (for me) my car is in pretty mint, oem condition. I would have liked for the seat belts to be factory replaced but that is no longer an option. I could (1.) deal with the belts I have now (not what I want to do), (2) have them buy the car, (3) sell/trade the car for another, or (4) pay some more of my money and get s14 or sentra belts (not what I want to do).

I'd like to remain owning a 240 but don't have the cash to be dropping on more seat belts. I think what I might do is ask for a little more than what they offered (1200) then seek out another s chassis.

My question is, how much should I ask for? The lady said they were negotiable, and a lot of the cars in my region (new england) are priced at 3000+. What to do?

[spooled240]

What a weird situation. What if you refuse to sell the car to them? I would imagine that they'd still be liable for any injury or death that may happen in the event of an accident with the worn seatbelts.

What Nissan should do is take your car somewhere and have it retrofitted with more modern available seatbelts (s14/sentra?) at no cost to you. I'd say that would be a cheaper alternative than buying the whole car back anyway.

[simmode1]

I'd ask them to make an offer & see what they say. But ultimately, there's no way I'd actually sell it to them unless they threw out some outlandish figure. You know they're just gonna crush the car. Don't let them do it.

[silviaks2nr]

What a weird situation. What if you refuse to sell the car to them? I would imagine that they'd still be liable for any injury or death that may happen in the event of an accident with the worn seatbelts.

What Nissan should do is take your car somewhere and have it retrofitted with more modern available seatbelts (s14/sentra?) at no cost to you. I'd say that would be a cheaper alternative than buying the whole car back anyway.

I don't think things would bode well if the nhtsa caught wind of that.

[spooled240]

They'll probably throw out some low number that aligns with KBB value, but they'll sweeten the deal by giving you a little discount on a new boring sentra lol

[spooled240]

I don't think things would bode well if the nhtsa caught wind of that.

Probably. Nissan would most likely need to perform new crash tests on said retrofitted seatbelts. Something that would never happen.

[EnnEssEnnKAT]

They offered 1200, sight unseen of course, but then also told me they are negotiable. I'm just not that good at negotiating either and don't know if it's reasonable to expect to buy another 240 with what they give me. They're tough to find cheap and most of the cheap ones are in much worse condition. I'd be happy with most other stock ones out there for sale if I could just pick one..

[omgRWDgoodness!]

All of this is making me really glad I have an S14.
Geez, talk about a flashback. Didn't even think to check the dates in this thread until I saw my own post in it...from 2½ years ago. At least I can still say my (now) S13 has manual seat belts in it :)

[Bushido]

do you like your 240sx? if so spend $100 on some canadian seatbelts.
I would only sell the car back if it was a piece of shit and i didn't care about it.
$1200 is nothing, it costs like 1/4 of that just to transfer a license plate to a new car...

[EnnEssEnnKAT]

do you like your 240sx? if so spend $100 on some canadian seatbelts.
I would only sell the car back if it was a piece of shit and i didn't care about it.
$1200 is nothing, it costs like 1/4 of that just to transfer a license plate to a new car...
Yes, definitely like the car. Do you think it's fair what they're offering, or me keeping it and spending my own money?

[spooled240]

They offered 1200, sight unseen of course, but then also told me they are negotiable. I'm just not that good at negotiating either and don't know if it's reasonable to expect to buy another 240 with what they give me. They're tough to find cheap and most of the cheap ones are in much worse condition. I'd be happy with most other stock ones out there for sale if I could just pick one..

Tell them $15,000, which is still a lot cheaper than a potential lawsuit lol

[Sleepiedaze]

tell them you want a 370z nismo for a flat rate of 30k and interest rate of 0.0001% for a loan length of 5 years. best come up.

[silviaks2nr]

tell them you want a 370z nismo for a flat rate of 30k and interest rate of 0.0001% for a loan length of 5 years. best come up.

You're still chucking money away to depreciation though. Best would be to convince them to do a full restoration on your 240sx like they did with that one guy's craigslist maxima.

[Bushido]

Yes, definitely like the car. Do you think it's fair what they're offering, or me keeping it and spending my own money?

post a picture of the car

[EnnEssEnnKAT]

Sure, here are some pics. First one's a joke, the second is the real deal. Also some more here: http://newhaven.craigslist.org/cto/4895504537.html (not advertising, just to show condition details).

[simmode1]

They offered 1200, sight unseen of course, but then also told me they are negotiable. I'm just not that good at negotiating either and don't know if it's reasonable to expect to buy another 240 with what they give me. They're tough to find cheap and most of the cheap ones are in much worse condition. I'd be happy with most other stock ones out there for sale if I could just pick one..

Hell no. Basically, they offered to buy your running car for the price of a set of Rotas or Taiwan coilovers. Ain't a damn thing wrong with car except the seat belt. Just switch to S14 belts and be done with it.
Sure, here are some pics. First one's a joke, the second is the real deal. Also some more here: http://newhaven.craigslist.org/cto/4895504537.html (not advertising, just to show condition details).

Oh shit... nevermind. I wouldn't pay much more than $1200 for that car either... lol. But seriously, just keep it and fix it yourself. Screw the stealership.

[simmode1]

Wait... so confusing... You put a Zenki front on a chuki? If it's still got the DOHC, your $2750 CL ad price is pretty fair. Since you're already trying to sell it, get them to meet that price. I didn't realize you were already trying to get rid of the car. But their offer is about $1300 too low.

[EnnEssEnnKAT]

Yes it's for sale also. I thought it was worth what I am asking, maybe a little budge room. It does have the dual cam it's a 1992.

[Rustys14]

I don't see what the big deal is, just buy something like this and be done with it.

http://zilvia.net/f/showthread.php?t=593137

You could also just manually wind the belts into the up position and unplug the motor so they don't move. It more or less becomes a normal seatbelt at that point other being slightly more inconvenient because you have to do two buckles when you get in the car. No point getting rid of an otherwise good car because of a minor issue that doesn't really matter...

[simmode1]

You know... I always feel like a weirdo on these issues because, unlike most ppl, I loved my S13's auto belts. I kinda miss them now that I have an S14.

[MADE]

Curious they buy your car for $1200 buck and then what? They can't sell it, a lot of S13 others should just let their cars go. Cause this fad will fade away soon. Not bashing but outside of our community the 240SX isnt worth shit. Approaching "Historic status or not.

[druS13]

You know... I always feel like a weirdo on these issues because, unlike most ppl, I loved my S13's auto belts. I kinda miss them now that I have an S14.

I also like the auto seat belts, but I think I like them because few cars have auto seat belts, which to me makes it unique. That and I dont have to put it on myself :D

[wkpainter]

Statefarm gives me an extra discount for the automatic seat belts. If mine went bad id probably rip them apart and try to service the unit itself.

[PeaceOnesxWai]

Curious they buy your car for $1200 buck and then what? They can't sell it, a lot of S13 others should just let their cars go. Cause this fad will fade away soon. Not bashing but other side of our community the 240SX is worth shit. Approaching "Historic status or not.

They crush it because its a liability incase someone dies due to the faulty design.

I dont see this "fad" going away anytime soon, 240s will always be a great platform with wide aftermarket support. If the missile crisis continues and a big percent of 240s are gone, it will only create more demand and people will start appreciating the value of it. More power to them.

[MADE]

They crush it because its a liability incase someone dies due to the faulty design.

I dont see this "fad" going away anytime soon, 240s will always be a great platform with wide aftermarket support. If the missile crisis continues and a big percent of 240s are gone, it will only create more demand and people will start appreciating the value of it. More power to them.

So you don't see the newer Z33 chassis or even R-Chassis for a few thousand more a better deal. Having raced against 33's on a track I gotta say better platform to start with.

[EnnEssEnnKAT]

I don't see what the big deal is, just buy something like this and be done with it.





http://zilvia.net/f/showthread.php?t=593137





You could also just manually wind the belts into the up position and unplug the motor so they don't move. It more or less becomes a normal seatbelt at that point other being slightly more inconvenient because you have to do two buckles when you get in the car. No point getting rid of an otherwise good car because of a minor issue that doesn't really matter...



I guess I could trust myself to work on the seat belts. The problem with the current automatic ones is the actual belts are fraying, and the motors are slow to the point the 30A fuse was blown at one time or another. The motors struggle. Double whammie

[holemilk00]

I'm calling bullshit. The nissan dealer here in Fort Myers Florida just did the warranty service on a hatch two weeks ago. This entire story sounds fishy. Tell them to check the availability of the parts again. It was a two week wait for it, but the replacement belt did arrive and the service was done.

[EnnEssEnnKAT]

Ya that does sound a little fishy then. Both the dealership and rep told me they were unable to get the parts, and that they are no longer made. I'll look into it.

[mewantkouki]

If you sell that car to the dealer. One of the techs who work in back will end up with it and it will be SR / RB swapped shortly after with a set of s14 seat belts installed. I can't believe this thread is real life...

[spooled240]

I think it's more believable that parts for a 20+ year old car aren't available anymore than a couple of Nissan employees scheming to purchase an old beat up s13 lol

[EnnEssEnnKAT]

If you sell that car to the dealer. One of the techs who work in back will end up with it and it will be SR / RB swapped shortly after with a set of s14 seat belts installed. I can't believe this thread is real life...

Actually they said I would surrender the vehicle to this company Morley VSPC. It's looking more like I'll sell it for money privately and get one that's in more original condition anyways. I just like stock.

[dub40sx]

I cant believe a thread like this exists or that you would sell your car because of a seatbelt. I will send you my non frayed seatbelts out of my hatch that have been sitting in a box for the last 9 years of my life.

[EnnEssEnnKAT]

Well it's true that it's pointless to sell because of such a small reason. It's specifically my driver's side chest belt that is frayed. You have this?

[wkpainter]

I bought a new chest belt about two or three years ago from courtesy parts. You should check availabilty yourself. I thought you were talking about the motor/track assembly.

[dorkidori_s13]

i can confirm that nissan can no longer order the chest belts or the tracks. the only item they can still get is the lap belt, and im 99% sure its New Old Stock.

i went into Nissan about 2 months ago to have them change out my frayed chest belt (which ive now just locked in restraint place by pulling the plug on the motor and using an allen wrench to park it on the track) and broken drivers side rail. the only component they could order from Nissan is the lap belt unit. even the lap belt clicker is discontinued and out of stock.

either get your hands on some S14, JDM S13 or Canadian S13 seat belts... or use the B11 Sentra manual belt conversion method. hell, im sure a ton of early 90s Nissan seat belts work as well, the retractor unit just needs to be small enough to fit in the crevice the old automatic unit sat in.