What years came with LSD?

[EVOtekS14bDIFter]

Hey ya'll, what years came with the LSD? I have a 98' S14, but don't know if I have it or not. I probably don't since when I try to drift, I just do a full 360.

[S13Grl]

Do you have ABS? Does your car pull to the left when you're peeling out? Do both of the wheels spin when you're burning out?

[Kid Zelda]

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Do you have ABS? Does your car pull to the left when you're peeling out? Do both of the wheels spin when you're burning out?</td></tr></table><span id='postcolor'>

You could have LSD and have no ABS.

[DragonReborn214]

My car turns left when I peel out. Do I have it?

My old Ztt used to almost go sideways when I would peel out in it.

[Zenki Two40]

2 easy ways to check for lsd.

1) jack rear of car up n spin one wheel. if they spin in opposite directions then u don't have it.
2) peel out n c if u leave 2 tire marks or just 1. if u leave &nbsp;2 then u have a lsd.

[EVOtekS14bDIFter]

</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote </td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">Quote: from S13Grl on 10:59 pm on Dec. 23, 2001
Do you have ABS? Does your car pull to the left when you're peeling out? Do both of the wheels spin when you're burning out?
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I don't have ABS, I don't notice my car pulling to the left when I peel out (hardly ever), and I love my car too much to burn it out. &nbsp;What's the big deal with LSD anyways? &nbsp;Is it substantially better if you have it?

[Archangel]

Is your car an se, le, or base model?
If its base model w/ 4 lugs, you don't have abs or lsd.
I think the ls had both, and i think the se had them optional (individually, or as a package).

My crude understanding of LSD: (correct me someone if I'm wrong)
Lsd transfers power from one wheel to the other when needed. If one wheel is spinning, and the other is gripping, LSD lessens the power to the spinning wheel, and increases the power to the gripping wheel. Thus allowing the spinning wheel to get its grip back. Maximizing the traction of both tires.

[EVOtekS14bDIFter]

Thanks for the info Archangel, I have an SE with no ABS, so I still have hope if I have it or not! &nbsp;Hopefully I do because that sounds pretty high speed. &nbsp;I'll do the test Zenki posted when I change my oil next at 33,000 miles. &nbsp;I will be putting Red Line Oil in it. &nbsp;I'll be starting a new tread on that!

[Thorpedo]

My car is an 89, and if i powerbrake the car, it spins both wheels. &nbsp;I didnt think that they had LSD, my car is fully loaded though. &nbsp;Is this possible?

[Kid Zelda]

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My car is an 89, and if i powerbrake the car, it spins both wheels. I didnt think that they had LSD, my car is fully loaded though. Is this possible?</td></tr></table><span id='postcolor'>

Nope, sorry, 89 didn't come with LSD. Unless the owner before you installed it! Not likely.

[S13Grl]

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My car is an 89, and if i powerbrake the car, it spins both wheels. I didnt think that they had LSD, my car is fully loaded though. Is this possible?
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You're probably just transferring the power to both wheels with the power of weight. I've seen people without LSD's burn out with both wheels.

EvoTek, you don't have an LSD.

LSD gives both of your rear wheels power so that you have more traction when launching or just generally driving.

[gfisch]

You should check the model # to see if you have it.
Dont remember the website offhand, but I know one was in a previous post that listed what each part of the model # stands for.

[drift freaq]

Archangel writes...
&gt;If its base model w/ 4 lugs, you don't have abs or lsd

er, wrong ! &nbsp;Both where &nbsp;options on all years.

and Kid Zelda wrote..
&gt;Nope, sorry, 89 didn't come with LSD.

Wrong again, my 89 hatch was a baseline model that came from the factory stock with VLSD. It was even on the computer at the Nissan dealer in Glendale.
Like I said earlier it was an option and if the customer ordered it they got it. It was called the tow package.

[tarp]

You can always call Nissans customer service number. They will tell you what you have based on your VIN Number.

[S13Grl]

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Archangel writes...
&gt;If its base model w/ 4 lugs, you don't have abs or lsd

er, wrong ! Both where options on all years.

and Kid Zelda wrote..
&gt;Nope, sorry, 89 didn't come with LSD.

Wrong again, my 89 hatch was a baseline model that came from the factory stock with VLSD. It was even on the computer at the Nissan dealer in Glendale.
Like I said earlier it was an option and if the customer ordered it they got it. It was called the tow package.
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Correct. It was a $900 option that came with ABS and LSD.

[drift freaq]

S13girl writes...
&gt;Correct. It was a $900 option that came with ABS and LSD.

thank you Irena, nothing like being validated my a moderator :biggrin:

(I fixed your biggrin!)

(Edited by S13Grl at 6:58 pm on Dec. 30, 2001)

[S13Grl]

Working at a Nissan dealer pays off big time!

[phatdex]

u r wrong about LSD s13girl
The guy who said the stuff about transfer from side to side is right. &nbsp;Only a locked diff spins both at same time and keeps u straight but they are only for drag and undriveable on street.

[phatdex]

archangel was right about lsd

[S13Grl]

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u r wrong about LSD s13girl
The guy who said the stuff about transfer from side to side is right. Only a locked diff spins both at same time and keeps u straight but they are only for drag and undriveable on street.
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I SAID HE GETS POWER TO BOTH WHEEEEEEEEELS, I said nothing about a detroit locker. Dude, read

[ca18guy]

</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote </td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">Quote: from phatdex on 6:37 pm on Dec. 30, 2001
u r wrong about LSD s13girl
The guy who said the stuff about transfer from side to side is right. Only a locked diff spins both at same time and keeps u straight but they are only for drag and undriveable on street.
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She never said it did :confused: in fact read her second post and she explains that it spin's both wheels.The first post was her asking questions not stating a fact.

[transient]

Nope, sorry, you're wrong on that one phatdex. A LSD works with a fluid inside the differential that hardens under a great amount of friction, IE when one wheel is spinning. When the fluid hardens, this causes the other wheel to spin as well. There's no transfer of power away from the spinning wheel.

[phatdex]

S13Grl isn't wrong. She's right. With an LSD both wheels get power. I say S13Grl is always right.

(Edited by S13Grl at 7:46 pm on Dec. 30, 2001)

[phatdex]

yes transient, u r right. &nbsp;I was explaining shit, but thats basically what i meant. &nbsp;The other wheel speeds up to the speed of the spinning wheel, so u do still fishtail with ur foot down.

[transient]

Well that's a first, that's 3 posts within 30 seconds of each other, lol

[S13Grl]

</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote </td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">Quote: from phatdex on 7:46 pm on Dec. 30, 2001
yes transient, u r right. I was explaining shit, but thats basically what i meant. The other wheel speeds up to the speed of the spinning wheel, so u do still fishtail with ur foot down.
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So how am I wrong?

[phatdex]

The lsd does not lock forever, it will continually be locking and unlocking, that is why u will still fishtail, therefore it is still not even power to both wheels the whole time. &nbsp;My friends RX3 has a 9&quot; ford dif with LSD and we take up the whole road when he launches. &nbsp;Maybe coz of the 290KW at the wheels in a 900kg car, but oh well.

[S13Grl]

So how am I wrong?

[phatdex]

I am confused now. &nbsp;Active Yaw control actually monitors power to each wheel and distributes accordingly. &nbsp;That lessens and increases power to each side.
LSD is crude mechanical way of trying to achieve this, but cannot have same amount of power to both sides as u would spin out in a corner at full throttle

[EVOtekS14bDIFter]

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My car is an 89, and if i powerbrake the car, it spins both wheels. I didnt think that they had LSD, my car is fully loaded though. Is this possible?
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You're probably just transferring the power to both wheels with the power of weight. I've seen people without LSD's burn out with both wheels.

EvoTek, you don't have an LSD.

LSD gives both of your rear wheels power so that you have more traction when launching or just generally driving.
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Why do you say I don't have LSD? &nbsp;If that's the case, WHO WANTS TO BUY MY CAR? &nbsp;I thought I was almost cool, until you said I don't have an LSD. &nbsp;Does LSD make a significant amount of difference in traction, hence giving you better control and handling? &nbsp;If that's the case, I'm selling it and buying a WRX.

[uuninja]

lol EVOtekS14bDIFter, the 98 is an s14 A for after minor change.... If you don't have ABS you probably don't have an lsd. The were part of a package. Though I have heard that you could order the two seperate from a dealer. Again I have only seen the two together. If you don't have an LSD you can always find one in a salvage yard for 300 to 500 dollars. That might be a bit cheaper than a WRX.


(Edited by uuninja at 1:55 pm on Dec. 31, 2001)

[EVOtekS14bDIFter]

Ninja Master, I'm trying to find a reason to buy a new car and I think I just found it. &nbsp;NO LSD = NEW CAR! &nbsp;I just sold my wifes 95' Integra for $12,500. &nbsp;I know we got top blue book, but it was highly modified. &nbsp;Anyways, my wife needs a new car so that's my justification for getting a WRX. &nbsp;It will be her car, but I'll just &quot;borrow&quot; it all the time. &nbsp;It's either the WRX or a Honda CRV (and yes, an unusual combo!)

[uuninja]

That is cool. The stock VLSD is shite in my opinion so even if you had one you would want to upgrade it at some point. The WRX's are mean cars but I think I will wate for the EVOVII to purchase my first new car <img src="http://www.zilvia.net/f/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/biggrin.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=':D'>