Good shops in Portland/Salem area

[240skate]

Can anyone refer me to some good performance shops? I'm looking for a good place to get my SR20 swap done.

[e1_griego]

Is doing the swap yourself out of the question? I'd save the money and go that route first.

There's not a lot of 240 folk in Salem generally.

[K_style]

There are few shops in Portland area. Where in Oregon are you?

[e1_griego]

Trackforged or PSI are probably your best bet in Portland.

I doubt either will be cheap for a swap, though.

[K_style]

Trackforged or PSI are probably your best bet in Portland.

I doubt either will be cheap for a swap, though.

I dont know who Trackforged is but PSI won't be cheap! haha.

SV Performance in East Portland has very good pricing on their work. Not sure what the swap price is though.

If you dont mind waiting for few weeks, I could do it in my garage? haha.

Also I know some people has a shop at home with quality work. I am sure they are cheaper than any shops in Portland.

[e1_griego]

Trackforged is in troutdale. They don't mess around with many driftcars but they build some very cool stuff. Also not so cheap. I wouldn't trust SV to do anything right....

I can also do it in my garage (in Salem), but not sure what sort of timeframe you're looking at.

[240skate]

I dont know who Trackforged is but PSI won't be cheap! haha.

SV Performance in East Portland has very good pricing on their work. Not sure what the swap price is though.

If you dont mind waiting for few weeks, I could do it in my garage? haha.

Also I know some people has a shop at home with quality work. I am sure they are cheaper than any shops in Portland.


I would love to do it myself actually, I just don't have a shop/tools/knowledge. I'm trying to get to know everything i can though. The perfect scenario for me would be finding someone to help me in their garage and paying them.

[240skate]

I may also just be a puss, and swap in another Ka for now. I dont exactly have the money for an SR atm.

[e1_griego]

You in Salem?

[240skate]

Woodburn area

[e1_griego]

Fair enough.

We have a weekly meet every thursday in tualatin. Show up if you'd like to learn a few things :D

Also, if you need any parts, lemme know. I have a garage full of 240 stuff.

[240skate]

Where is the meet at and what time?

[e1_griego]

7pm at aloha grill in Tualatin.

[240skate]

sweet, ill prob b there in a shitty stock red hatch

[K_style]

Fair enough.

We have a weekly meet every thursday in tualatin. Show up if you'd like to learn a few things :D

Also, if you need any parts, lemme know. I have a garage full of 240 stuff.

How many people usually show up?

[e1_griego]

You ask this every time I posted about it.

Anywhere between 5-15 people.

It's not a car show or anything fancy, we just have dinner and bullshit about cars.

[Weedm]

if you guys are down to sykart thursday night ill show up!

havent been to the meet in a year. alex probably despises me.

[e1_griego]

You've confused me for someone who cares ;)

It's driving season, so we dont' really bother with sykart. Once the winter comes we'll do some races here and there.

[K_style]

You ask this every time I posted about it.

Anywhere between 5-15 people.

It's not a car show or anything fancy, we just have dinner and bullshit about cars.

How is food there? haha

[e1_griego]

Good christ.

Just show up.

[Weedm]

You've confused me for someone who cares ;)

It's driving season, so we dont' really bother with sykart. Once the winter comes we'll do some races here and there.

whoa whoa.. caring is one thing. comittment is another.

sorry to let you down :-/

[e1_griego]

You are such a disappointment.

You end up keeping your Z?

[Weedm]

i did keep it. i realized for the price i was trying to get no one would get it unless they knew what it's worth. that and, after driving my friends S13, i just felt like it was a big downgrade in terms of a daily driver.

ill slowly build the Z up for what it is.

i might show up thursday night. dont think ive brought it out there yet. last time i was there was when my s13 had the broken bolt which you gave me a replacement for :hs:

[e1_griego]

Oh yeah, z is a way better dd.

That extra 700lb over an s13 really cuts down on the NVH. Plus it's 15 years newer.

[240skate]

I was going to go, but my Ka took a shit on me last night. I guess i could show up in my other car...

[K_style]

I was going to go, but my Ka took a shit on me last night. I guess i could show up in my other car...

I have extra S14 SR20DE in my garage.. I could sell it for $500 with tranny if you want?

[K_style]

Good christ.

Just show up.

Hey hey hey! that's about 60 miles for me to drive.. gotta make sure food is good!


haha I will try to show up today

[e1_griego]

Where do you live?

And no one really cares what you drive -- we pretty much all show up in our daily drivers.

You want me to bring that oil cooler for ya? :)

[K_style]

Where do you live?

And no one really cares what you drive -- we pretty much all show up in our daily drivers.

You want me to bring that oil cooler for ya? :)

I live in Hillsboro

I would like to buy it now but... No $$ at the moment..

[K_style]

Trade with some parts ? I have New HKS mushroom air filter

[e1_griego]

I don't need anything.

And hillsboro to tualatin surely isn't 60 miles ;)

[K_style]

I don't need anything.

And hillsboro to tualatin surely isn't 60 miles ;)

60miles round trip.. haha

[di-devol]

lol, just go, I've met you once, it's really good food.

[e1_griego]

Bitch please, I've been driving up from Salem to tualatin and Beaverton every week for like 5 years.

< no sympathy.

[K_style]

Bitch please, I've been driving up from Salem to tualatin and Beaverton every week for like 5 years.

< no sympathy.


Haha fair enough. I will try to make it down there if I could.

[Weedm]

i chose a movie night over you guys..

[K_style]

i chose a movie night over you guys..

Booooo~ .

[di-devol]

i chose a movie night over you guys..

lol?


msglngth

[240skate]

I have extra S14 SR20DE in my garage.. I could sell it for $500 with tranny if you want?


PM me. i might want it

[e1_griego]

Guessing none of y'all will show up tonight (if last week was any indicator), but bumping to remind you anyhow.

[Weedm]

what time do you guys head out by on average? i need to go home after work but can head out shortly after.

[e1_griego]

7ish-10ish.

Sometimes earlier, sometimes later.

[240skate]

Damn i was gonna go tonight and i totally spaced it!!!

[e1_griego]

Weedm showed up last week.

[Weedm]

if my plans fall through today ill show up again.

k style should go

[K_style]

if my plans fall through today ill show up again.

k style should go


Not today.... Sorry....

It's too hot.. j/k LOL

[ricekiller]

hey wsup, new guy with a 240sx in salem. I'm down to help out with the swap. Anyone know any good painters? I'm trying to get my car painted asap!

[240skate]

I'm getting my swap done at SV in a few days. Im going with a ka-t. What do you guys think?

Turn key Ka24det swap & Silvia front end (http://portland.craigslist.org/mlt/pts/3221933981.html)

[ricekiller]

so your not going to swap yourself? how much are you spending?

[e1_griego]

A stock SR will be more reliable and less headache.

You are going to need to spend some money to buy a proper ecu instead of that safc, which is junk.

[240skate]

I know its going to still need some work and i am planning on that. I'm not doing the swap myself since i do not have a garage to work at at the moment and wont for a few weeks as i am moving right now. As for reliability, i don't think it will be too bad considering it was rebuilt 2k miles ago. The full turn ket swap is costing my $3000 with tranny

[ricekiller]

^^ just be patient, looks like you have guys here willing to help you with a swap. you'd probably be better off spending 3 grand on an rb25 and we'll help you with a swap lol

i have a garage open for any swaps if anybody needs one in salem.

[240skate]

To be honest, i am not the most mechanically inclined person, but i am learning. I think a shop is the best option at the moment. But it will obviously need work in the future and it would be great to meet up with some local people to help me out. i just feel a little sketch leaving a car/engine at some random persons house from a forum.

[ricekiller]

Well thats why you go to meets, meet with people, make friend.s. Shops are all about money. Try and learn to do things yourself and keep money in your pocket.

[e1_griego]

+1 to that.

If your KA runs fine, save your money, or spend it on susp and some other shit.

Show up to a meet, we can probably still save you from yourself ;)

[K_style]

I been missing this lately...

I dont remember what your plan was to do with your car. but Don't bother getting that "turn key" swap.

it will save you $ and time in long run. and be patient.. there will be already good deal around.

[240skate]

My KA is blown right now. I've been dailying my lifted Subaru and i'm sick of it! (I bought it for snowboarding) I I don't work Thursday, so like 99% ill show up at the meet this week

[240skate]

As far as plans for the car, I'm going for a clean daily that is a blast to drive. I'm not trying to track it or anything. Maybe slide it around a tiny bit but nothing too serious

[K_style]

My KA is blown right now. I've been dailying my lifted Subaru and i'm sick of it! (I bought it for snowboarding) I I don't work Thursday, so like 99% ill show up at the meet this week

You should have bought my kouki !! I just sold it yesterday... I could say it was "Crack head" deal!!!

anyways. definitely no go on KA-T swap !

[e1_griego]

Still doesn't make sense to drop $3k + ecu/mgmt (+ maybe tuning) as the first step to a 240 project.

[K_style]

Still doesn't make sense to drop $3k + ecu/mgmt (+ maybe tuning) as the first step to a 240 project.

Hell no... :werd:

[240skate]

So what do you guys think is the best option? I already have the guys at SV holding the engine for me. I could do SR but that's going to cost a lot more. I could do a stock ka, but that's not going to be a blast to drive. I work min wage so i don't have a ton of money. My first goal is to get the car up and running healthy, then go into the little details.

[K_style]

So what do you guys think is the best option? I already have the guys at SV holding the engine for me. I could do SR but that's going to cost a lot more. I could do a stock ka, but that's not going to be a blast to drive. I work min wage so i don't have a ton of money. My first goal is to get the car up and running healthy, then go into the little details.

I hope you didn't put any deposit for that.

SR swap will cost you less than what you are about to spend. I could assure you that.

Why don't we get you stock KA and if you want more juice out then, get you T28 and Rom tune ECU.

KA - $500
T28 - $250
Manifold - $100
Down pipe - $50
Rom tune ECU - $200
Stock SR injectors - $50
Front mount intercooler - $250
Oil line - $50
Walbro fuel pump $70

Prices are guesstimating top of my head.

Still barely over $1500.


I am sure you will want better clutch too.. $200~300 ish

[K_style]

I might add... I would still do SR swap over making KA turbo.

[240skate]

I hope you didn't put any deposit for that.

SR swap will cost you less than what you are about to spend. I could assure you that.

Why don't we get you stock KA and if you want more juice out then, get you T28 and Rom tune ECU.

KA - $500
T28 - $250
Manifold - $100
Down pipe - $50
Rom tune ECU - $200
Stock SR injectors - $50
Front mount intercooler - $250
Oil line - $50
Walbro fuel pump $70

Prices are guesstimating top of my head.

Still barely over $1500.


I am sure you will want better clutch too.. $200~300 ish



...........I put a deposit..........When i posted the ad up in the ka-t forum people told me 2 go for it, and my buddy who knows his shit said go for it.
I don't really have the know how to do all of that. and not trying to be rude but i don't think people will be as willing to help as they say.

[K_style]

...........I put a deposit..........When i posted the ad up in the ka-t forum people told me 2 go for it, and my buddy who knows his shit said go for it.
I don't really have the know how to do all of that. and not trying to be rude but i don't think people will be as willing to help as they say.

Asking KA-T forum people is same thing as asking people here on zilvia if they rather have Honda or nissan.

How much did you put deposit? did you make a contract or receipt? Does it say refundable?

If you have buddy who knows shit, why doesn't he help you?

If you decide to do it in your garage or etc, I am willing to help I am T2 bottom mount turbo expert hahahaha
just buy me some beer. LOL

[e1_griego]

Yeah, should have talked to people who are actually in the know -- there a few of us around.

Sr motorset on ebay is like $2k shipped (last few I've seen have been super clean). After that figure mabye another $500 in parts, and then you have a stock, reliable, 30mpg setup.

[240skate]

$300 no contract just receipt. i didn't notice if it says refundable. I'm sure i could go check the engine out again, find something i don't like and tell them fix it or i wont pay or some shit like that. My buddy does NOT have the time. He had to sell his 240. Will you be at the meet on Thursday and we can talk? You okay with some bud light platinum? haha

[K_style]

$300 no contract just receipt. i didn't notice if it says refundable. I'm sure i could go check the engine out again, find something i don't like and tell them fix it or i wont pay or some shit like that. My buddy does NOT have the time. He had to sell his 240. Will you be at the meet on Thursday and we can talk? You okay with some bud light platinum? haha


Then call them and cancel it and get your $300 back. I am assuming you already have at least $3k to spend?

Stock SR20DET is around $2k shipped like Alex said. You will want the gaskets replaced after. gasket kit is $130 I think.

I have a friend in PHX who does Swaps all day. If you pay him I am sure he will fly here and do the swap for you including wiring.

He wanted visit up here anyways.

Oh yes I will be at the meet this Thursday.

[240skate]

Ok thats going to run me a lot more then 3grand right there. lol. I know im a noob, but having a rebuilt KA-t and tranny installed for 3grand still sounds like the best option. I'll be there thursday. Any way i could get an address and exact time?

[e1_griego]

Every thursday night. 7pm.

Aloha Grill
19267 SW Martinazzi Ave
Tualatin, OR 97062-6352

[K_style]

Ok thats going to run me a lot more then 3grand right there. lol. I know im a noob, but having a rebuilt KA-t and tranny installed for 3grand still sounds like the best option. I'll be there thursday. Any way i could get an address and exact time?


What if my friend could do it for less than $1k ?

that's about $3k total then?

[K_style]

Every thursday night. 7pm.

Aloha Grill
19267 SW Martinazzi Ave
Tualatin, OR 97062-6352


I heard food is pretty good there too.. LOL

[240skate]

We will talk Thursday. Maybe you can talk me into it

[e1_griego]

Just show up to the meet and we can talk about options.

I think your best bet is to throw another KA in if you're strapped for cash. Playing with cars consumes money, and being broke + building cars is a questionable recipe.

[K_style]

We will talk Thursday. Maybe you can talk me into it

Let me ask you this. what is the purpose of you having 240sx?

Do you want to Drift? Drag? Autocross? all of them?

[240skate]

Let me ask you this. what is the purpose of you having 240sx?

Do you want to Drift? Drag? Autocross? all of them?

Mostly daily. Maybe some drifting

[K_style]

Mostly daily. Maybe some drifting


You know you dont need SR to drift? just saying but you could drift all day with your KA with some bolt on.

if $ is tight, staying with KA might be a good idea but then, sky is limit.

This thing is an expensive hobby that you are about to put your self into.


Of course, we will talk more when we meet this Thursday

[ricekiller]

Anyone from salem going to this meet? Text me 971388400eight

[240skate]

This meet is cool as hell. Lots of nice people and good food. Im not longer going with the KA-t and now im going SR. Glad i went

[ricekiller]

Sr why not rb? I was gonna go, but i had something come up.. Next thurs

[e1_griego]

b/c if you have to ask about it, RB is not for you.

[ricekiller]

All i gotta say is i love my rb, sound alone is worth it!

[e1_griego]

super sick.

[K_style]

Sr why not rb? I was gonna go, but i had something come up.. Next thurs

Why not 2JZ ? why not LS3 ? Why not VQ ??

You are missing the point. He is under "Budget" here.

Unless you could get him RB engine + mount kit + labor for $3k.

[ricekiller]

keep it nissan, and you can do an rb20 swap for less than 3k

[e1_griego]

rb20 is a turd sandwich.

[K_style]

keep it nissan, and you can do an rb20 swap for less than 3k


WTF???? I'd keep KA over RB20 ALLLLLLLLL Fucking day... Why dont you suggest him to get CA18DET? that' will save him some dough.

Clearly you dont know what you are talking about.



rb20 is a turd sandwich.

Thought it was worst than that.

[ricekiller]

Lol, lets set up a race and see who the turd sandwhich is. Rb20 with a few upgrades is a turd? Are you gu ys on crack or just hating?

[K_style]

Lol, lets set up a race and see who the turd sandwhich is. Rb20 with a few upgrades is a turd? Are you gu ys on crack or just hating?

Are you the guy who has Maroon Hactch with RB20?

If so, how come you have RB26 valve cover on it? Are you embarrassed to have RB20??


Race huh? wow, now you are a tough guy... LOL I dont think race war doesn't start for another a couple weeks and I need to get my premium SR20 imported overnight from japan to ready.

If you know what I mean.. :ddog:

[ricekiller]

Silvia S13 RB20DET T3/T4 External Gate / Screamer Pipe- YouTube (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ybYdhtQZvsM)

this is a turd sandwhich lol

hey im not the one talking crap, your the one talking about an rb20 is worse than a turd sandwhich, well either put your car up or shut up.

[K_style]

Silvia S13 RB20DET T3/T4 External Gate / Screamer Pipe- YouTube (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ybYdhtQZvsM)

this is a turd sandwhich lol

hey im not the one talking crap, your the one talking about an rb20 is worse than a turd sandwhich, well either put your car up or shut up.

Either you and I talked crap. You gave a bad opinion and I gave my opinion.

Sorry I suck at driving. can't race you. but I am sure Alex will do it for you.

Is that your car? RHD? so you are not the guy I thought who you'd be... hmmm Apparently there are more than 1 RB20 lover here in OR.

[e1_griego]

oohhhh a street race.



:drama:

[ricekiller]

yeah exactly, both are very to quickly talk smack, but not actually back it up lol.

rb20 is a turd

[e1_griego]

:rolleyes:

Put your e-penis away.

We've talked some sense into the OP and he's met the right people now on how to build a proper 240.

[K_style]

Wait wait wait...

this is your car

http://zilvia.net/f/chat/473632-cleaned-up-my-rb20-engine-bay.html
http://i54.photobucket.com/albums/g96/airkobe81/IMG_20120826_122925.jpg

Car in that video isn't even your car... WTF is wrong with you?

[K_style]

Why can't you proof your point why RB20 awesome over current SR20 option? Oh wait, you did,,

All i gotta say is i love my rb, sound alone is worth it!

Really? that's ALL you can come up with why you are saying get RB20 over SR?

All you do is "Let's RACE". How pathetic is that? are you 16 or something?


SR20DET is much more practical option for many people because of replacement part availability and cost unlike RB engines. Plug it's light than RB.

Keep your RB20DET and race all you want. Like I said before. I'd keep KA over your beloved RB20DET.

[ricekiller]

you guys are the ones saying an rb is a turd bucket, i didnt come in her bashing an sr, all i asked was a question.

You two know it alls obviously have it all figured out. I never claimed that car in the video is mine, i juts said it was an rb20, does it look like a turd sandwhich?

[K_style]

you guys are the ones saying an rb is a turd bucket, i didnt come in her bashing an sr, all i asked was a question.

You two know it alls obviously have it all figured out. I never claimed that car in the video is mine, i juts said it was an rb20, does it look like a turd sandwhich?


OMG !!! do you want me to go find video of 800hp+ SR ??
What was you point f posting that video if it wasn't even your car?

I never said "RB" is turd either Alex. He said "RB20" is turd sandwich or some other.

You can make any engine (most) go fast with modification. RB20 engine alone is worthless, waste of money to put it in when there are other options such as SR20.

[K_style]

yeah exactly, both are very to quickly talk smack, but not actually back it up lol.

Why do I keep wonder that you are a little kid? Maybe it's because way you talk?
Guess not though, since you even had Supercharged M3 before which little kid can't afford one of those unless you have some nice parents.

Hey, would you stop embarrassing your self here? you sound a lot like you had LS v-tec with fire extinguisher in the car with 20 light up gauges and hard parking e-thug.

I hope you are not one of those. It would be sad to see someone drives nice car like yours with that's kind of attitude.

[ricekiller]

lol you said it was worse than a sandwhich. im not going to argue, i can pull up the same vids, my point is dont talk trash unless your going to back it yourself.

[K_style]

lol you said it was worse than a sandwhich. im not going to argue, i can pull up the same vids, my point is dont talk trash unless your going to back it yourself.

I did back up my opinion, and you didn't.

When did "Race" become proofing which is better engine?

Sure if you want race. let's race if that makes you happy. Like I said I need my premium SR20 imported before the Race wars. I could just race you with R6. it's only 600cc. But I think it's better engine than RB20 also.

Beside. it wasn't talking trash. I was talking "FACT". you are confused.

[ricekiller]

ok buddy facts.

it's been noted by many people that have owned both an sr and a rb20, MOST, IF NOT ALL would pick the rb20 all day everyday over the sr. It's got more torque, it revs higher, it sounds better, it's a straight six with many parts available, because rb25 parts fit.

search around, theres tons and tons of threads with people who have owned both.

http://zilvia.net/f/chat/284528-rb20-vs-sr20-swap-2.html

Have you personally owned an rb20? Have you driven one? whats great about an rb20 swap, is later down the line, it makes an rb25/26 swap much, much easier. You need to get your damn so-called facts straight buddy.

Rb20 owns sr20 all day, everyday.

Sound is one of the biggest deciding factors for many people. I love how 3 years ago on zilvia everyone would have been sr20 yada yada. Now people are starting to realize that:

The SR20Det is the b16a swap of the nissan world, cheap, effective but in the end.....same old borring story.

Another year or two from now people are going to be saying things like-

if your broke - do an sr20 swap
if you have no mechanicle experience - do an sr20 swap
if your el cheapo - do an sr20 swap
if you like 4 banger sounds that dont rev that high - do an sr20 swap
if you cant fabricate - do an sr20 swap
if you dont know how to read a wiring diagram - do an sr20 swap
if you dont know how to hit the search button - do an sr20 swap


Dont be one of the above guys and just go for the rb swapped car and build from it.

[K_style]

ok buddy facts.

it's been noted by many people that have owned both an sr and a rb20, MOST, IF NOT ALL would pick the rb20 all day everyday over the sr. It's got more torque, it revs higher, it sounds better, it's a straight six with many parts available, because rb25 parts fit.

search around, theres tons and tons of threads with people who have owned both.

http://zilvia.net/f/chat/284528-rb20-vs-sr20-swap-2.html

Have you personally owned an rb20? Have you driven one? whats great about an rb20 swap, is later down the line, it makes an rb25/26 swap much, much easier. You need to get your damn so-called facts straight buddy.

Rb20 owns sr20 all day, everyday.

Thank you for making a thread that made your self little brighter. But you are still wrong.

Even that thread you link, people had different opinions. At the end RB is more difficult to work on, difficult to find replacement part, more weight.

That's the fact you did not understand maybe you just are stuck up and bending over to RB20.

It's the fact that RB20DET is heavier, it's the fact that RB20DET cost more to swap, it's the fact that kills lot of room in engine bay therefor it's pain to work on.

RB20det is great way to start "If" you are getting RB25 in future but why bother get RB20det to begin with if you can get RB25 for less than $200~300 more?

RB20DET is waste of money and OP doesn't even have $ to do it.
SR20DET is way to go for OP and will cost less in future for any parts/upgrade.

I am not your buddy. so don't call me buddy. I don't know you. I have no interested in person who is acting like a child or asking for "Race" to proof him self or his engine like your self.

So, get lost and leave the OP alone with his decision unless you come up with better reason why OP should get RB20DET over SR20DET under $3000 budget.

Have a nice day.
:picardfp::picardfp::picardfp::picardfp::picardfp: :picardfp:

[K_style]

Rb20 owns sr20 all day, everyday.

Thanks for giving me a new sig.

[ricekiller]

lol get over your self, you came in here bashing the rb20, i came in here to set you straight. if you wouldnt of opened your big mouth, then all would be good.

the engine is heavier, no room, costs more....LOL thats what you got????

looks like i have plenty of room in my engine bay doesnt it? go crawl under a bridge and hang out with the rest of trolls that dont know shit about rb's.

[K_style]

It sure seems there are lots of people who disagrees with you on that thread you posted.

think about this.
if guys in japan don't do rb20 swap into their cars instead
you see sr20 swap all the time is because they know it's junk.
if you are going to get mounts, driveshafts, and all the work you might as well go RB25.
RB20 is the buttom of the food chain.

guys dont do RB20 swap because all their cars come with SR20...

sr would be my choice parts are cheaper and more avalible but i would do a rb if it was a 25 or 26

SR20DET > RB2Odet ..lol...
i have bunch of friends that swap out RB20 for SR because RB is like curse sure they are ncie and blah blah blah but only for so much times.....Sr20 is well known for it abuse, daily , or soemtime even power

stick with the SR. i hated my RB20.

My vote goes toward the SR. I have a n S14SR in my car and I drive the hell out of it. Hell, I just drove back to Louisiana from California. If you want a dd that you can go to Autozone or the dealership and pick up parts, go SR. Parts are relatively cheap. With simple bolt ons, I managed to git 278hp/236tq out of my car @15psi. And yea, its pretty fun for a dd. If money wasn't an issue, I would go 1JZ or RB25. I'm currently in the process of getting my car ready for a 2JZ swap. If you have any questions about it, pm me.

i would do the sr swap. why cant people just answer the question?

you should search harder...

with that said, go SR. more parts readily available for cheap. plus you already decided by saying



SR's can make 300 easy, bigger turbo, injectors,etc... and tune.

Ok here is my thoughts.

RB20det - the power is spread over more cylinders making it easier on the engine
- this engine sucks up a ton of space, for not much reward
- Heavier, I think it is a steel block(correct me if wrong)

SR20det - tons of mods
- more room in the engine bay
- more mechanics comfortable working on this engine
- most problems can be searched and found here on zilvia

You must be talking about RB25. My RB20 is just as gutless as an SR when off-boost.

sr's can make a lot of horse power and still get good gas mileage for daily driving. i get 300miles at least on a full tank driving nice and not going into boost all the time

think about this.
if guys in japan don't do rb20 swap into their cars instead
you see sr20 swap all the time is because they know it's junk.
if you are going to get mounts, driveshafts, and all the work you might as well go RB25.
RB20 is the buttom of the food chain.

guys dont do RB20 swap because all their cars come with SR20...

sr would be my choice parts are cheaper and more avalible but i would do a rb if it was a 25 or 26

SR20DET > RB2Odet ..lol...
i have bunch of friends that swap out RB20 for SR because RB is like curse sure they are ncie and blah blah blah but only for so much times.....Sr20 is well known for it abuse, daily , or soemtime even power

stick with the SR. i hated my RB20.

My vote goes toward the SR. I have a n S14SR in my car and I drive the hell out of it. Hell, I just drove back to Louisiana from California. If you want a dd that you can go to Autozone or the dealership and pick up parts, go SR. Parts are relatively cheap. With simple bolt ons, I managed to git 278hp/236tq out of my car @15psi. And yea, its pretty fun for a dd. If money wasn't an issue, I would go 1JZ or RB25. I'm currently in the process of getting my car ready for a 2JZ swap. If you have any questions about it, pm me.

i would do the sr swap. why cant people just answer the question?


think about this.
if guys in japan don't do rb20 swap into their cars instead
you see sr20 swap all the time is because they know it's junk.
if you are going to get mounts, driveshafts, and all the work you might as well go RB25.
RB20 is the buttom of the food chain.

guys dont do RB20 swap because all their cars come with SR20...

sr would be my choice parts are cheaper and more avalible but i would do a rb if it was a 25 or 26

SR20DET > RB2Odet ..lol...
i have bunch of friends that swap out RB20 for SR because RB is like curse sure they are ncie and blah blah blah but only for so much times.....Sr20 is well known for it abuse, daily , or soemtime even power

stick with the SR. i hated my RB20.

My vote goes toward the SR. I have a n S14SR in my car and I drive the hell out of it. Hell, I just drove back to Louisiana from California. If you want a dd that you can go to Autozone or the dealership and pick up parts, go SR. Parts are relatively cheap. With simple bolt ons, I managed to git 278hp/236tq out of my car @15psi. And yea, its pretty fun for a dd. If money wasn't an issue, I would go 1JZ or RB25. I'm currently in the process of getting my car ready for a 2JZ swap. If you have any questions about it, pm me.

i would do the sr swap. why cant people just answer the question?

you should search harder...

with that said, go SR. more parts readily available for cheap. plus you already decided by saying



SR's can make 300 easy, bigger turbo, injectors,etc... and tune.

Ok here is my thoughts.

RB20det - the power is spread over more cylinders making it easier on the engine
- this engine sucks up a ton of space, for not much reward
- Heavier, I think it is a steel block(correct me if wrong)

SR20det - tons of mods
- more room in the engine bay
- more mechanics comfortable working on this engine
- most problems can be searched and found here on zilvia

You must be talking about RB25. My RB20 is just as gutless as an SR when off-boost.

I would go sr unless u wanted to do a biger rb platform like 25 or 26.

step 1: buy your own stock chassis
step 2: swap in rb25
step 3: injectors/t67 or gt35

//thread

Those are the most rice b0i idiotic bandwagoning super street shitty horrid piece of shit excuses ever.

[K_style]

lol get over your self, you came in here bashing the rb20, i came in here to set you straight. if you wouldnt of opened your big mouth, then all would be good.

the engine is heavier, no room, costs more....LOL thats what you got????

looks like i have plenty of room in my engine bay doesnt it? go crawl under a bridge and hang out with the rest of trolls that dont know shit about rb's.


How could you set me straight with your crooked mind? LOL

Why can't you just fu*king leave us alone @[email protected]@@@[email protected]! LOL I think I am done with talking to you.

The energy I put in my fingers to typing this shit is even too worth it for me to talk to you.

[K_style]

let me just go over with your favorite quote.


Sound is one of the biggest deciding factors for many people. I love how 3 years ago on zilvia everyone would have been sr20 yada yada. Now people are starting to realize that:


if your broke - do an sr20 swap - Applies to OP
if you have no mechanicle experience - do an sr20 swap - Applies to OP
if your el cheapo - do an sr20 swap - Applies to OP
if you like 4 banger sounds that dont rev that high - do an sr20 swap -Not sure about this
if you cant fabricate - do an sr20 swap - Applies to OP
if you dont know how to read a wiring diagram - do an sr20 swap - Applies to OP
if you dont know how to hit the search button - do an sr20 swap -Not sure about this



So the perfect swap for OP is SR20DET dont you agree?

[ricekiller]

wow you are mad bro lol, its ok to hate. i can post same responses about the 4 banger lol, in the end its an rb... you obviously dont know shit first hand.

[ricekiller]

i never said anything about the op and his swap, he can do what he wants, but i never disrespected his decision, i never bashed the sr20 calling it a turd bucket.

What do you expect? Go make a new thread calling the rb20 a turd sandwhich on the rb tech forums and see how fast you dissapear you troll.

[K_style]

wow you are mad bro lol, its ok to hate. i can post same responses about the 4 banger lol, in the end its an rb... you obviously dont know shit first hand.


I made a poll just for you. Let's hear what other people say.

http://zilvia.net/f/polls/474372-sr20det-vs-rb20det.html

stop talking shit. you are being such a baby.

Yes I am mad at my self to talking to person like you to waste of my time. I should have not bother to begin with.

[K_style]

i never said anything about the op and his swap, he can do what he wants, but i never disrespected his decision, i never bashed the sr20 calling it a turd bucket.

What do you expect? Go make a new thread calling the rb20 a turd sandwhich on the rb tech forums and see how fast you dissapear you troll.

I never said RB20DET is turd or whatever you like to call it. Holy shit. Stop confusing me with someone else !!! I dont even know what that Turd whatever means. I am a foreigner.

You told OP why not swap RB20? What was that all about?



Go make a new thread calling the rb20 a turd sandwhich on the rb tech forums and see how fast you dissapear you troll.

Is your brain made of muscle ??? Should I go to SR Tech forum and do the same? WTF?

[ricekiller]

this guy started a poll LOL.

[K_style]

this guy started a poll LOL.

I sure did.. LOL I overreacted. apologies.

[ricekiller]

haha calm down man, rb20 is far from a turd, trust me, you would get fucking owned talking that shit in the rb tech.

[K_style]

I couldn't stop laughing after looking up in dictionary what "Turd" means...

Ok. it's not that bad. I wound't call it a turd. But I am not the one calling RB20 a Turd whatever.

[K_style]

NVMD on poll. Looks like I made my self stupid.

[ricekiller]

lol trust me, anybody who says an rb20 is a turd sandwhich, doesnt know shit about what they are talking about. I don't think you said it, you just agreed with it, and asked isnt it slower than a turd sandwhich?

I'm not trying to argue or fight with you guys about it, but with comments like that, what do you expect? I was in no way disrespecting anybody here, i'll be out at some meets and probably laugh about it, because to me, its a joke.

[Weedm]

clearly, the only reason to get an RB20 over an SR is if the individual want's to venture into something not so main stream.

with that said, i'll race you. :axe:

[ricekiller]

^^ i got some shit coming in from japan , give me a week man lol

[tds14]

Stop making Oregon look bad. But back on topic I too would like to find out what shops you guys go to around the area besides PSI. I just want to get my brakes cleaned up / prepped for powder coat and don't know where I should take them. Also would like to drive out to the Thursday meet sometime and meet some of you guys o_0

[ricekiller]

^^ maybe ill see ya at the meet if you go, we were just having a little fun, nothing serious.

[K_style]

^^ maybe ill see ya at the meet if you go, we were just having a little fun, nothing serious.

Yea is was just learning what turd mean..

[ricekiller]

^^ lol yeah basically

[240skate]

I'm doing Sr20 unless you buy me the engine and swap it for me rice, then ill do the RB. Deal?

[ricekiller]

Yeah no problem haha, sr is a good swap.

[240skate]

For less then 3.5k yes, it is!

[ricekiller]

you can almost buy a car thats already swapped for that price though, but thats another story...

let us know how it turns out man!

[K_style]

you can almost buy a car thats already swapped for that price though, but thats another story...

let us know how it turns out man!


Yeah that's an another options.

You could possibly buy a car with SR swapped for around $3.5k plus some modifications.

Did Alex call you about the engine?

[240skate]

Yeah that's an another options.

You could possibly buy a car with SR swapped for around $3.5k plus some modifications.

Did Alex call you about the engine?



Then i don't even know what i would do with my shell. but i guess it could be an option. I was really looking to learn lots along the way, so i would prefer to do the swap myself. (with some help) ANd no, I don't think he even has my #.

[K_style]

Then i don't even know what i would do with my shell. but i guess it could be an option. I was really looking to learn lots along the way, so i would prefer to do the swap myself. (with some help) ANd no, I don't think he even has my #.

You could sell the sell to me? Haha or keep it for spare part car. I am sure you will need it in future. LOL how come you didn't give him you # last Thursday?

[240skate]

You could sell the sell to me? Haha or keep it for spare part car. I am sure you will need it in future. LOL how come you didn't give him you # last Thursday?


He Pmed me about it on here. I'll keep my eye out for one, but its gonna be hard to find an SR for 3500 or less

[ricekiller]

Sr20det 240sx (http://seattle.craigslist.org/kit/cto/3234274044.html)

this guy is selling a fully swapped 240sx for 4k, says hell take no less than 3800, but throw 3500 large in his lap and i bet you'd get it.

[240skate]

Sr20det 240sx (http://seattle.craigslist.org/kit/cto/3234274044.html)

this guy is selling a fully swapped 240sx for 4k, says hell take no less than 3800, but throw 3500 large in his lap and i bet you'd get it.

Lol i txted him already. Its not running, has a boost leak.

[ricekiller]

Just a boost leak? Still not a bad price...

[fliprayzin240sx]

I lived in Japan for 4 years...from what I've seen, people throw away RB20s. FACT!!! I've seen more SR20 equipped cars that originally had RB20s in them than anything else or upgraded to an RB25/26.

[ricekiller]

There is a few different rb20s, yes id throw the 80s 160hp version in the trash too lol. Either way, we are all cool here now, no need to stir up b.s please.

[K_style]

There is a few different rb20s, yes id throw the 80s 160hp version in the trash too lol. Either way, we are all cool here now, no need to stir up b.s please.

Well it's true not B.S. When I lived in Japan most of people with stock RB20 swap out for SR a lot for many reason which it was 215ps RB20.

i.e Laurel, Cefiro, GTS-T

Also correct me if I am wrong. There is only 1 kind of RB20det with 215ps. Weather it came out in 80s or 90s. The one you were talking about is RB20ET with 170ps.


But that doesnt mean it's a "turd" LOL.

[K_style]

Lol i txted him already. Its not running, has a boost leak.

Send me some pictures of your car. I might be interested in buying it as a shell. "If" you find a car with swap already.

[K_style]

nissan 240sx s13 (http://salem.craigslist.org/cto/3203659382.html)
This guy is from Salem.

[ricekiller]

Id have to say the older rb20s are turd buckets lol. I wish i had money to throw away an engine for an rb26 lol

[ricekiller]

Rb20det, there is redtop and silvertop versions, also rb20det-r, which only 800 of them were produced.

i think 4 different versions all together.

[240skate]

nissan 240sx s13 (http://salem.craigslist.org/cto/3203659382.html)
This guy is from Salem.


I can guarantee that's going to cost more then i can spend. I don't have any good pics of the damage the car has and its parked in my friends yard right now.

[K_style]

I can guarantee that's going to cost more then i can spend. I don't have any good pics of the damage the car has and its parked in my friends yard right now.

If you sell your shell, you could add that $ to your budget too. I am just giving you more options. Like i said, If you decide to sell your shell. I am interested.

[fliprayzin240sx]

Rb20det, there is redtop and silvertop versions, also rb20det-r, which only 800 of them were produced.

i think 4 different versions all together.

The only times I've seen people still rocking RB20s in their cars were on drift missiles. From what I've been told, its because they simply wont fucking die no matter the amount of abuse they put the damn things thru. I knew one guy who bought an R32 missile, never changed the oil in it, was driving it with almost no oil on the dipstick, literally trying to blow the engine up so he got a reason to do something else, the RB20 wont give him that satisfaction. SR20s are the opposite, something happens to it oil related, it goes kablooooey!!!.

[ricekiller]

^^ thats crazy lol

anyway.... i picked up a top mount turbo setup for my turd bucket...vip performance looks like a good shop if it already hasnt been mentioned. They were real helpful and even stayed an hour late for me to pick up the turbo.

http://i54.photobucket.com/albums/g96/airkobe81/IMG_20120905_180912.jpg

i do not plan on running the hks filter, ive read too many horror stories...

[K_style]

^^ thats crazy lol

anyway.... i picked up a top mount turbo setup for my turd bucket...vip performance looks like a good shop if it already hasnt been mentioned. They were real helpful and even stayed an hour late for me to pick up the turbo.

http://i54.photobucket.com/albums/g96/airkobe81/IMG_20120905_180912.jpg

i do not plan on running the hks filter, ive read too many horror stories...


Nice.. what kind of turbo is that?

[ricekiller]

^^ thanks, its a holset hx35.

[Weedm]

my offer still stands

[Doc KA24DE]

Can anyone refer me to some good performance shops? I'm looking for a good place to get my SR20 swap done.

JW Sport Cars in Albany,OR does everything give James a call 541 981 9633

http://youtu.be/r9xZZ_jFZV0 this just some so the things he does

[K_style]

JW Sports Cars in Albany,OR does everything give James a call 541 981 9633

Sil80 - JW Sport Cars - YouTube (http://youtu.be/r9xZZ_jFZV0) this just some so the things he does

Man that thing is "Keoki'd" out !!!! LOL

Didn't know we had a shop in Albany

[Doc KA24DE]

should give him a call he'll probly invite over to the shop to see what hes workin on

[e1_griego]

Posi rear end, eh?....

and lol @ keeohki.

[K_style]

should give him a call he'll probly invite over to the shop to see what hes workin on


Looks like he got some nice sized shop.. Man I need to get a house with lift...

LOL

Alex, guess what I am up to? LOL I am putting 2871r in my car now.. back to bottom mount. how lame..

[e1_griego]

super lame.

Also: I TOLD YOU SO.

[ricekiller]

i like the guys at svperformance, i know its been mentioned on here, but they do a good job and the prices aren't over the top like some other shops i've called.

[e1_griego]

Yeah no thanks.

If I want mediocre garage work done I'll just do it myself :P

[ricekiller]

not sure what makes you hate them lol, but ive had no problems with them whatsoever, and none of my friends can tune a car in there garage lol

[K_style]

not sure what makes you hate them lol, but ive had no problems with them whatsoever, and none of my friends can tune a car in there garage lol

SV performance does not or cannot tune a car either.

[K_style]

super lame.

Also: I TOLD YOU SO.

Hey I still have 2 other set up to go with.,. haha

but GT30/40 is wayyy too big for me unless I go to woodburn for drag race..

can't find 3071r good deal... dang it

Anyways I will stick with 2871r for now. I am sure I will have fun with it..

[ricekiller]

^^ dude i swear man, CALL THEM UP YOURSELF

[K_style]

^^ dude i swear man, CALL THEM UP YOURSELF

They don't even have a dyno machine. unless they offer "Street TUNE"

[ricekiller]

things change man, either way i dont wanna argue, its best you just go to vip performance lol

one more thing about your quote... i was referring too the sr20 from the same time period as the rb20 not the sr20 from an s15 or some crap. I cant keep up with how many sr20 versions out there lol

[K_style]

things change man, either way i dont wanna argue, its best you just go to vip performance lol

You started saying SV Performance now it's VIP performance?

[ricekiller]

^^ nah im just saying go to vip performance, because they have a fancy shop and charge up the a-hole.

[e1_griego]

Yeah, SV does street tunes.

No thanks.

I have a datalogit and will mess around with it, but for tuning I'll stick to places with proper tuners and dynos. TrackForged and PSI.

Also, SV's custom flcas and other mickey-mouse susp. parts are terrifying and come apart. No r&d, just cobbling shit together.

[e1_griego]

Peter, 2871 is fine. Did you get .64 turbine?

Just make sure you run that trans brace and you're set.

[ricekiller]

is trackforged here in salem? ive heard of them, but never actually been there...

i havent personally bought anything from svp, i just had them install my wideband 02 sensor is all.

[e1_griego]

Troutdale.

Install wideband = $20 at exhaust shop to have a bung welded in and then power/ground wires to run. Easy peasy.

Did you end up keeping your car? Did you get a coolant reservoir?

[ricekiller]

^^ yeah thats what they charged me, yeah i got an overflow the day you said something lol. yes, i've decided to keep it and build her up slowly.

[e1_griego]

Sounds good.

[K_style]

Peter, 2871 is fine. Did you get .64 turbine?

Just make sure you run that trans brace and you're set.

Yep its .64

Its ganna be ok for now..

[ricekiller]

dyno vs street tune has been argued for awhile now, but either way is good from what ive heard anyway. A lot of people prefer the safe dyno tune, but then theres people who still want a street tune...

dyno's are trying to simulate the street lol

ive read on the evo forums, that a lot of the guys getting dyno tunes end up getting knocking when they take it out on the street, not sure this is the case with all cars, but whats your take on it alex?

[e1_griego]

My take on it is people shouldn't be brokedicks trying to do street tunes.

Where are you safely going to do 4th gear pulls on the street?

In an n/a car, maybe, but when you're trying to set up a 300whp turbo car, there is no way to do that safely on the street.

[ricekiller]

well there are people who take cars to the track and get them tuned, obviously it isn't safe to do a 4th gear pull on the street, but people do it anyway.

a lot of pro's and cons, only cons with a street tune from what ive read, is it isn't safe, but whats that have to do with the actual tunning of the car if you tune it at a track?

[K_style]

well there are people who take cars to the track and get them tuned, obviously it isn't safe to do a 4th gear pull on the street, but people do it anyway.

a lot of pro's and cons, only cons with a street tune from what ive read, is it isn't safe, but whats that have to do with the actual tunning of the car if you tune it at a track?


Well I think I can end this Dyno tune vs Street/Track Tune so called "Argument".

There is no reason to argue about it.

Ricekiller, have you ever owned either Dyno Tuned or Street/Track tuned car?
If not, then you are in no position to speak here to say weather this or that.

What kind of dumb motherfu*ker tunes their car @ track? Why on earth take the car to track to begin with if it is not tuned? Do you want to blow your motor?

Regardless of safety, you simply cannot tune your car on street/track as good as on dyno.

That's all I gotta say

[e1_griego]

Alright, you stick to street tunes, we'll stick to dyno time.

[K_style]

Alright, you stick to street tunes, we'll stick to dyno time.

Sounds good.

[ricekiller]

I'm not saying im getting my car dyno'd on the street, but both of you know it all's obviously know it all. Yes, ive had my car dyno tuned before and yes i might go with a street tune this time.

you have no right to call me a broke ass prick for going with a street tune, you guys don't even know me.

The point of getting a street tune done at a track is not GOING balls to the wall on a race track smart guy, it's about having a safe road to test it on rather than a city street.

I swear this site has nothing but straight ish talking internet geeks on it.

[K_style]

I'm not saying im getting my car dyno'd on the street, but both of you know it all's obviously know it all. Yes, ive had my car dyno tuned before and yes i might go with a street tune this time.

you have no right to call me a broke ass prick for going with a street tune, you guys don't even know me.

The point of getting a street tune done at a track is not GOING balls to the wall on a race track smart guy, it's about having a safe road to test it on rather than a city street.

I swear this site has nothing but straight ish talking internet geeks on it.

I am not call you no names. Do you what you like. No one is stopping you. There is nothing wrong with doing different things than others.

I don't know why on earth you pay to go to Track to tune the car though. Not sure what kind of track allows you to do that kind of stuff either. Remember you won't be the only one at the track driving unless you rent whole track for a day which cost you several thousands dollars.

Good luck with Street/Track tune. Perhaps I could race you when you are done with it @ drag strip or something as you wished before. Then you could prove your holy RB20 with street tune beat silly 4 banger SR20 with dyno tune I have.

haha Just sayin~ :duh:

[e1_griego]

We've met. I know you're not a brokedick kid.

You asked why I don't like SV, I told you, and you brought up tuning. I'm calling it how I see it.

We've both been doing 240s for damned near a decade which puts you at a distinct disadvantage in this argument lol

[ricekiller]

^^ look i know if you don't have an sr20, your basically wasting your time on here, all I know is I don't care, im not here to prove anything. I enjoy cars, I'm not here for a dyno sheet or to be faster than anybody.

I'm not here to try and prove an rb20 is hot stuff, it's obviously an underdog around here. I have not once talked crap, i react to others talking crap like you k_style. I've meet alex, and he's here for the same reasons, we enjoy cars here.

I enjoy being an underdog with an underdog motor. For crying out loud, were talking about 240sx's around here lol, you guys act like were dealing with some high class vehicle here.

No offense to any of you here, but i didn't mind getting a dyno tune on my beloved fi'd m3, but for a freaking 240sx, i have a hard time forking up 1500$ on a tune for a car thats worth 1500$ LOL.

I'll stick with my broke street tune on a 240sx, not because i'm broke, but because I frankly don't give a sh#t about a 240sx lol.

Good luck with Street/Track tune. Perhaps I could race you when you are done with it @ drag strip or something as you wished before. Then you could prove your holy RB20 with street tune beat silly 4 banger SR20 with dyno tune I have. haha Just sayin~

id love to meet you in person. The track is for a stretch of road guy. Not to test it on the track. What don't you get about this comment?? Tuners do this all the time, it's not my fault your stuck with a holy grail of an s14 with an sr20 lol, your just like every other sheep on here.

[e1_griego]

No one really cares about a motor. If you're happy with your car, then fine.

SV to me is not a great shop, and street tuning is really not the 'right' way to do things. If you're happy with it, then good enough. Peter and I have spent enough on cars (yes, shitty 240s) that cheaping out is not something we do.

[ricekiller]

^^ i have not decided about who i'll have tune it, but i have decided on if im going to do a dyno or a street tune on the 240 as of right now. Maybe ill change my mind if i can find a power fc for an rb20, but for that price i could score an sr20 and make the people happy around here lol.

I'm never happy with a car, it's an on going addiction that most of us have around here. I'm just here for fun, not to be all serious about doing things the proper way. If it isn't 100%, oh well. I just want to enjoy the car while I have it, this is by far the worst crowd of owners i've ever dealt with.

I've meet some real cool people in the 240 crowd, but a lot of little know it all kids around here man.I guess it's to be expected with cheaper cars lol.

[e1_griego]

Yeah the 240 crowd is generally ridiculous.

Though every car group right now is overrun with hellastance retards. Add drift idiocy on top of that and there's no winning.

I told you, come to a meet and hang out with some folks. You can meet peter in person and realize he's actually very laid back.

[ricekiller]

^^ yeah i've been meaning to get out there, just been sort of busy. I'm real laid back myself. I know it's easy to talk crap online, but it's all for fun in my eyes.

Yeah, stance guys def ruined the bmw crowd, I got rid of my rota's, i'm rocking 14's with 70 series tires right now haha. I'm eyeballing some rpf1's, love those wheels.

[K_style]

Tuners do this all the time,

Yes, for the adjustment of their tune. not to tune it from scratch like how you described.

not because i'm broke, but because I frankly don't give a sh#t about a 240sx lol.

I don't think you will get much of respect from any of real enthusiast for saying what you just said.

I am sure your FI'd hella flushed E36 M3 was nice and all. but the way you would treat the car (240sx in this case), I'd rather see the car driven by someone else.

[ricekiller]

^^ I forgot your a tuner man. gtfo

do a search on dyno vs street tunes from many different cars heres one with an EVO crowd. Can't get much worse than an evo crowd folks.

http://forums.evolutionm.net/evo-general/551186-street-tune-vs-dyno-tune.html

I prefer a street tune as the best you can get the car to it's actually capability. I think all cars should be street tuned then put on a dyno to maybe see some numbers and finish a few tweaks.

From what I heard or was told street tune might be better since the car is getting tuned with actual driving conditions on the car while its getting a tune. but you won't get dyno numbers with it. I'm actually going with a street tune on my car once I get my cams and head studs put in.

As far as the dyno vs. street tune goes, I personally prefer a street tune because I like seeing how the car reacts in real world conditions. Plus, with the Virtual Dyno programs available now, you can get a pretty accurate reading on what kind of power you're putting down. As far as safety goes, obviously the dyno is safer and will keep you from getting pulled over but a good tuner knows his area and likely already knows of several roads that he can tune on where traffic and police aren't an issue.

There are plenty of reputable tuners out there doing sreet tunes, and just because someone tunes on a dyno, that doesn't make them a professional.
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Once upon a time when we didnt have a dyno my street tunes were within 4whp of the finished dyno tune.

Thanks for your confidence. I do prefer tuning on the dyno, but a street tune can be just as good as a dyno tune. It just takes more time on the street.

Devin

REAL TUNER NOT K-STYLE

So to sum it all up:

Dyno tune - safe, effective, quick

Street tune - fun, effective, time consuming

and thats why im getting a street tune "FUN"

hella flushed m3? lol, i'm not even going to comment on this ish. ccw's with 255's is hella flush stanced stretched wheels LOL

How exactly do I treat my car buddy? i'm not one of your super cool friends with a bunch of drift spares man. I'm a real enthusiast who doesn't care about whats in style.

[K_style]

^^ I forgot your a tuner man. gtfo

haha now you know it, stop saying nonsense and you get the fuck out.

:hey:

[K_style]

FYI, More dumb stuff you say, it makes you more un-friendly if you know what I mean.

I am not call you a dumb btw

[K_style]

^^ I forgot your a tuner man. gtfo

do a search on dyno vs street tunes from many different cars heres one with an EVO crowd. Can't get much worse than an evo crowd folks.

Street tune VS Dyno tune - evolutionm.net (http://forums.evolutionm.net/evo-general/551186-street-tune-vs-dyno-tune.html)



REAL TUNER NOT K-STYLE



hella flushed m3? lol, i'm not even going to comment on this ish. ccw's with 255's is hella flush stanced stretched wheels LOL


Thanks for link like how you posted somebody else's RB20 car last time.

What's that tuner's name BTW?

Do what you like. Perhaps you should get an EVO.

Like I said, more dumb shit you say, you are making your self more dumb.

HAHA

[K_style]

You have time to research all that but no time to take advises nor do actual research that helps your knowledge. Stop feeding your brain with bad information.

[ricekiller]

^^ why am i going to take some advice from a guy like you? all you do is talk crap man. just stay the f away from me when i go to one of these meets. I'm not your friend, nor am i here to make friends with know it alls like you.

I'm here to learn about things, not take advice from know it alls, that's the problem with people like you. You know it all. You have no room to grow. You know it all buddy.

you want the tuners name, here ya go know it all.

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http://zilvia.net/f/engine-tech/410974-tuning-dyno-street-2.html

street vs dyno tune takes a few seconds to search for. Why am i an idiot? i'm not saying this stuff, im quoting people.

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431whp srt4 tuned on the street most of it's life - it did see some dyno tunes but it was always finalized and checked on the street.

315whp break in tune on my built sr 35r full race kit was on the dyno, and will get it's full tune on the dyno...

I'd prefer all of the dyno tuning be done on the street but it's not always viable, depends on the tuner.

I agree. that's what started this discussion in the first place. I've been doing it this way since 1963, and yes, we had dynos back then. The time slip or the triple stopwatch lap timing board was the end game, not the dyno chart.

Bill

[S14DB]

This thread has meandered way of it's topic into some theoretical BS. Should have been closed when it turned into the meetup discussion 2 months ago.