Anyone ever try these short rams?

[VinceDude]

Fujita short ram for the sr20det. Has anyone here ever had any experience with these before. I have a chance to pick one up for a pretty good price but I've never heard of the brand before and I can't find anything online about them besides the fact that they are being sold for the sr20. I heard on some random honda forum(seems these are more popular with the honda engines)that Fujita is also by Injen. I mean the price is pretty good so I'm probably gonna pick one up regardless but what's your guy's take on these? LMK! Thanks.

http://www.frsport.com/Fujita-SR-2820-89-94-Nissan-240SX-Air-Intake-w-SR20DET_p_9235.html

There's a link for ya ^

[Croustibat]

Fujita short ram for the sr20det. Has anyone here ever had any experience with these before. I have a chance to pick one up for a pretty good price but I've never heard of the brand before and I can't find anything online about them besides the fact that they are being sold for the sr20. I heard on some random honda forum(seems these are more popular with the honda engines)that Fujita is also by Injen. I mean the price is pretty good so I'm probably gonna pick one up regardless but what's your guy's take on these? LMK! Thanks.

Fujita SR-2820 89-94 Nissan 240SX Air Intake w/SR20DET (http://www.frsport.com/Fujita-SR-2820-89-94-Nissan-240SX-Air-Intake-w-SR20DET_p_9235.html)

There's a link for ya ^

It is completely useless but sounds cool and looks shiney.

If you want one, i have a similar one for sale, never used (thought it could fit on a CA18DET with SR20 turbo and MAF but it does not). Made by apex performance in UK.

Pic:
http://www.sxoc.com/vbb/attachment.php?attachmentid=47114&stc=1&d=1183991825

Will check for postage if you are interested. They sell for 80£ new.

[TheRealSy90]

300 bucks for an intake? Jesus.

[Croustibat]

But you dont understand ! It works on hondas :hey:

[tunermt]

a good intake will make some power over the stock intake/box/filter and if your stock stuff is banged up or non existent why not buy a quality intake?

Agree though, there are some other options available that won't bust your wallet quite so much.

[59bhp]

Tuning Developments (http://www.tuningdevelopments.co.uk/product_info.php?cPath=70_73_174&products_id=921)

what about one of these?

this is the one I have fitted and its a really nice part, fits really well and most importantly not chinese made :D

[Croustibat]

a good intake will make some power over the stock intake/box/filter and if your stock stuff is banged up or non existent why not buy a quality intake?

Agree though, there are some other options available that won't bust your wallet quite so much.

SR20DET is a turbo engine.

Unlike NA engines, there is no accoustic management between turbo and filter. ANY 20 bucks freeflowing filter will improve power. Simple reason:
turbo pressure is relative to the intake.
If it makes 15psi it means it makes 15psi more than the pressure at the intake.

Now a standard filter will probably drop intake pressure of something like 2 psi, if the turbo boosts at least 15psi. Meaning a freeflow filter is worth an extra 2 psi of boost.

But there is no need for a shiney intake tube @ 300$ for that. The tube itself wont make a difference. It will make more noise, and may even cause problem because the MAF needs a steady airflow (oem pipe has a profile like this : /\/\/\, it "buffers" airflow when BOV discharges and absorbs noise)

This is engine stuff, not magic. Turbo engine owners dont believe in magic. Honda boys do, however.

[ForeignMuscle]

My god I figured it was an intake manifold at least. You've lost your mind to even think of throwing down 3 bills for a turbo intake. I could custom tig an aluminum or ss intake pipe, buy high quality silicone, t clamps, and an AEM driflow filter, sell it for half that and make a profit. So many other options. $300 good gawd...

[ForeignMuscle]

Croustibat, you just tried way to hard on that. An intake will not be worth 2psi. Ever. At the most it will make flow more efficient. 15psi is 15psi above 1 atmospheric pressure. It will not make more boost. Full boost may be realized sooner, flow will be smoother. This isn't a hundred shot of nitrous were talking about. Buy a cheaper unit or build your own. 300 bucks is fucking stupid. Period.

[Arireese]

people bitching about 300 dollar intakes..i have a greddy intake kit, I Must waste all my money for things to say greddy :(

[ForeignMuscle]

Greddy intake doesn't even cost this much.. Plus it's name brand. And yea, your probably a label whore who gets all giggily with shiny emblems.

[USMC913]

Correct me if im wrong but wasnt Fujita started by the old owner of Apexi? I heard that years ago but never really looked into it.

[VinceDude]

That's exactly it! Haha I'm getting a great deal on this thing for waaaaaaaay less than that msrp on FRsport. I'm just asking if it's good idc about how much it costs. So has anyone actually tried these and 59bhp do you really know if these were made in china or were you just saying that?

Tunermt what "quality" ones can you suggest? I know HKS makes some pretty expensive ones as well $100 more than this particular one infact. Are you guys saying those aren't worth the money either(i'm not saying that they are i'm just asking a question)?

Also the motor is an sr20 redtop.

[ForeignMuscle]

Did you say 58bhp....as in 58 horsepower?

[ForeignMuscle]

Screen name ok lol thank god

[VinceDude]

Yeah, i was referring to that one users comment. And mr.fmuscle you've got me all wrong. I'm just as hesitant to spend 300 on a short ram as the next guy, screw that. But I got offered one for cheap that's why I'm asking if they are any good and if they are of any use because I wanna know what I'm putting into my car. Also I don't have an intake a the moment is it necessary to have one? I've seen people run with just the turbo and nothing more what's up with that? All the MAF sensors I've seen are behind the filter on the intake. Where do the people who run open turbo put their MAF sensors?

So I take it nobody tried these yet?

[!Zar!]

I have an Apexi Super Suction intake. Shit sounds so awesome during compressor surge.

Sounds like the Birdman is in my car every time I let off the gas.
http://1hiphopucit.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/05/birdman.gif

[VinceDude]

Hmmm I wonder if Fujita really was by Apexi. I'm gonna look into this.

Kay I did a little looking around and I found out that it's also popular with g37 and bmw owners. Still nothing on sr20det's :/
Also found out they're based in Osaka and they started out making parts for mazda cars, mainly the rotary ones. IDK if this is the same company lol

[Croustibat]

Croustibat, you just tried way to hard on that. An intake will not be worth 2psi. Ever. At the most it will make flow more efficient. 15psi is 15psi above 1 atmospheric pressure. It will not make more boost. Full boost may be realized sooner, flow will be smoother. This isn't a hundred shot of nitrous were talking about. Buy a cheaper unit or build your own. 300 bucks is fucking stupid. Period.

I wrote "worth of". Which does not mean the boost reading will be up 2psi; it means the difference between compressor inlet and outlet will be 2 more psi, which is exactly the same as upping the boost of 2 psi.

But you have to be familiar with turbo tech to understand that.

BTW i also said the shiny intake tube is useless.

[tunermt]

haha zilvia watch out this thread is starting to read like something on nasioc.

[59bhp]

So has anyone actually tried these and 59bhp do you really know if these were made in china or were you just saying that?

yup i know for sure they are not made in china, they are made by a local fabricator here in the UK, 100% British made :P which is why they are more expensive than the equivalent Apex ones (because they actually fit)

I've used them for exhausts and inter coolers etc and he was the one who showed me he was making these parts for Tuning Developments.

[VinceDude]

yup i know for sure they are not made in china, they are made by a local fabricator here in the UK, 100% British made :P which is why they are more expensive than the equivalent Apex ones (because they actually fit)

I've used them for exhausts and inter coolers etc and he was the one who showed me he was making these parts for Tuning Developments.

Sorry, I should of been specific. By "these" I meant the Fujita ones. Did you mean those were made in China?

[59bhp]

Sorry, I should of been specific. By "these" I meant the Fujita ones. Did you mean those were made in China?

Ah right i get ya,

erm not sure to be honest, I was referring to the apex ones that was posted up :)

[Croustibat]

Made in china or not, it just is a metal tube without constraints . Why would you care as long as it is leak proof ? Nationalism ? Then why did you get a 240 to begin with ?

[59bhp]

Made in china or not, it just is a metal tube without constraints . Why would you care as long as it is leak proof ? Nationalism ? Then why did you get a 240 to begin with ?

well material from developing countries tends to be not certified so the quality is questionable, (in this instance) this could lead to corrosion problems, warping during manufacture, lack of repeatability and other general quality control issues.

although nothing is wrong with something being made in china, as long as its specified correctly (which is where things are generally lax)

[ForeignMuscle]

But you have to be familiar with turbo tech to understand that.

BTW i also said the shiny intake tube is useless.

I work on jet turbines. So I think I'm qualified for "turbo tech"

Anyhow, to the OP. If it's cheap I would do it. If your on a fairly stock engine you will hardly notice the benefits but they will be there. It will just free up a little more air space. An intake is an intake as long as your talking bolt on. Its not going to break or even vary much from brand to brand. It's just a larger pipe. That is all.

[Croustibat]

I work on jet turbines. So I think I'm qualified for "turbo tech"



:bowrofl: :bowrofl:

I call in another statement of yours and raise the bullshit flag.

:bs:


[...] Idk about you but i work full time and go to college full time as well and Im not rich.[...]

Trying to look smart does not work when you act and lie like a brat.

So, if you are ever interested in that, here is a little turbo tech course.

The real name of turbo pressure is "compression ratio" , and it is the difference between turbo inlet and outlet. Look at a turbo flow chart and find out what is written on it. A turbo does not really care, if it has 15psi at the intake and it is supposed to get a 15psi compression ratio, it will output 30psi. If air is at 40psi, it will output air at 55psi.

In a car though, people use turbo pressure as the outlet pressure compared to atmosphere, and that is very different. Because it is the same only if the air filter does not restrict the flow.

The thing is, it can, and it can drop 2-3psi quite easily. Meaning your 20psi "boost pressure" is in fact a 22-23psi compression ratio; and on any T28 turbo, that means going straight out of efficiency zone and in the overspin one.

Now if you can stop that restriction, you get a true 20psi compression ratio, meaning you stay in an efficient zone and get more power.

That is turbine 101, you are supposed to know that before even looking at a turbine.



Edit:
now to add to this:
you are right about the intake not going to do much. However it can cause problem as the tooth shaped OEM tube somewhat buffers the air, and prevent the flow around the turbo and from the dump valve from interfering with the MAF, that does not like working in "not straight" air. Fortunately you can get an air straightener, these basically are honeycomb shaped. Does not cost much and needs to be fitted between the tube and the MAF. And it works.

[!Zar!]

lol @ people complaining about price.

lol x2 @ people that can't afford it trying to downtalk the people that can.

[VinceDude]

Made in china or not, it just is a metal tube without constraints . Why would you care as long as it is leak proof ? Nationalism ? Then why did you get a 240 to begin with ?

I don't have anything against China it's just that my experiences with buying things in the U.S. that came from China aren't good. Like for my tools I'll buy stuff from the Husky brand from Home Depot which are made in China but I know they're actually pretty decent tools. I don't know anything about this intake so if you told me it's made in China I'm going to look into it thoroughly first.

Ah right i get ya,

erm not sure to be honest, I was referring to the apex ones that was posted up Oh okay cool, I wasn't sure if you were being serious cause I saw some place that these were from Japan.

[NoPistons!]

Lol. Bringing compound boost theory and cnn political debates to an intake fight.

[!Zar!]

Lol. Bringing compound boost theory and cnn political debates to an intake fight.

Clearly one needs to have their degree in metallurgy to build an intake.

[VinceDude]

So I'm gonna try these and I'll let you guys know what I think about em.

[ForeignMuscle]

Croustibat I'm arguing the fact you think an intake will increase intake psi. Clearly you need a course. It will be 14.7psi. And yes, I'm a full time welder and full time A&P student. What are you proving with that statement? It's an intake. Your a genius. It will double horsepower, you win. And no pinklilpony, I would not spend $300 on that shit. I would make a custom one for a fraction of the cost. Guess I'm not balla dawg..

[Slippin'eight-nine]

Just buy the PBM inlet pipe $80 and and APEXi air filter for $60... Im running that its great! Its exactly the same thing youre prepared to shell out $298 for

[Croustibat]

Croustibat I'm arguing the fact you think an intake will increase intake psi. Clearly you need a course. It will be 14.7psi. And yes, I'm a full time welder and full time A&P student. What are you proving with that statement? It's an intake. Your a genius. It will double horsepower, you win. And no pinklilpony, I would not spend $300 on that shit. I would make a custom one for a fraction of the cost. Guess I'm not balla dawg..

1/ you are a liar
2/ you obviously cant read, as i said it just is a tube and wont get HP from it.
3/ Once your reading course is over, try a turbo tech course, and you will learn about compression ratio.

Now i have a suggestion for you, that will greatly improve your forum experience: read the damn messages before answering.

Have a nice day :hey:

[VinceDude]

Just buy the PBM inlet pipe $80 and and APEXi air filter for $60... Im running that its great! Its exactly the same thing youre prepared to shell out $298 for

Nah, i'm not getting the intake at list price so I'll try it out and see if it's worth anywhere near what they're asking for haha. I could always sell it for cheaper and switch over to ones you guys suggested if I don't like it. Thanks for the suggestions though I'll keep em in mind :)

I wish I knew how to TIG weld though so I can fabricate my own stuff. I know how to MIG weld but it's just messy and ugly. I wouldn't wanna do it to my car.