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TougeLove
07-14-2012, 03:14 PM
So ricers were popular in the 90's,then the jdm craze, then drifting and now vip/hellaflush. Just curious what everyone thinks is next?

old school japanese? they're getting more and more popular.

I mainly ask because I am looking for a new project and dont want a jdm honda or another s chassis or something that has been done a 1000 times. i want something with potential. currently own a 2011 wrx and plan on keeping it while I build another car.

only car that has caught my eye is the late 80's porsche 944 turbo.
:wackit:
http://pic20.picturetrail.com/VOL1477/5631844/15024224/369443036.jpg

simmode1
07-14-2012, 03:49 PM
I've been talking about the 944's for years now. My old roommate had one but he was too broke to do anything cool with it. Plus he had no style. The car has sexy ass lines though. I'm in love with those fenders.
http://i43.photobucket.com/albums/e355/bmx944/my%20944/shoot001-2.jpg

I'd love to see one with good wheel fitment and an STI swap. Putting a stout turbo boxer engine into a Porsche just makes sense to me. I hear maintenance costs are similar to what you'd expect from a BMW or more though, so be prepared.

rat240
07-14-2012, 04:33 PM
what about the old school mini truck style
http://i161.photobucket.com/albums/t206/dr1f7t/p21.jpg
http://image.sporttruck.com/f/10702451+w750+st0/0811st_62_z+sport_truck_milestones+BFG_ad.jpg

gist864
07-14-2012, 04:38 PM
rx7 fc not a s chassis rotary engine and you don't see them everyday

thisisastickup
07-14-2012, 04:46 PM
this thread is awful. back when "rice" was cool, it wasn't fucking rice. drifting is still cool. jdm shit is still cool.


do what you want, chances are nobody will like it anyway. your shit should make you happy.

exitspeed
07-14-2012, 04:58 PM
this thread is awful. back when "rice" was cool, it wasn't fucking rice. drifting is still cool. jdm shit is still cool.


do what you want, chances are nobody will like it anyway. your shit should make you happy.

Whoa, better listen to this dude. Sounds like he knows whats up.

Lol. Dude, there was always ricey shit even when the "scene" started getting popular and it wasn't cool. Sure there were very little elitist pricks back then but shitty cars were still called ricey.

You know how I know that? Because I was modifying cars years becore you were even in the double digits of life. This was well before the internet was your main source of car. info, magazines were.

You wouldn't know about that kinda shit though.

Point is don't come in here shitting on a thread about a subject you weren't even around to know wtf was going on.

TougeLove
07-14-2012, 08:02 PM
Word^ I remember helping my buddy make a custom exhaust for his 91 mr2 back in 95. Also helped a friend do one of the first door poppers anyone around us had seen.

I'm ultimately going to do what makes me happy but what's wrong with seeing some inspiration and other peoples interests? :)

exitspeed
07-14-2012, 08:40 PM
Also, I always wanted to build a 944 Turbo.

BoostSlideWayz
07-14-2012, 08:48 PM
Not sure if you like lancia fulvia's but i love them when they are done right... My old boss i used to work for had a rally one . http://i590.photobucket.com/albums/ss342/CustomGundam/FULVIA1.jpg

And a friend of his owns this one.. I love love this blue one, has a slick style to it that i just love. And actually rarely see them ever, Im not sure the availability of them are though because my boss was back n forth from all over the world and bringing back cars with him. I think it would be cool to get one of these.

http://i590.photobucket.com/albums/ss342/CustomGundam/LANCIA.jpg

Matej
07-14-2012, 08:52 PM
The cheapest thing one can do to a Porsche 944 is buy it.
Plus the car has a tendency to burn down to the ground. Ironically, exactly that happened to a local kid who bought one.

There is a reason why they sell for less than beat up 240SX's.

word sux
07-14-2012, 09:47 PM
The cheapest thing one can do to a Porsche 944 is buy it.
Plus the car has a tendency to burn down to the ground. Ironically, exactly that happened to a local kid who bought one.

There is a reason why they sell for less than beat up 240SX's.


truth

944's are junk and cost an arm and a leg to maintain.

if you want to be cool and original then why the fuck are you asking people what to do... so uncool

DisEpyon
07-14-2012, 11:40 PM
So ricers were popular in the 90's,then the jdm craze, then drifting and now vip/hellaflush. Just curious what everyone thinks is next?

old school japanese?


All this crap is still going on today, Its a giant mix of differing colors of skittles. Some areas may have more greens and some may have more reds. Just depends on the area you live in. I guess you see more of the so called "vip/hellaflush".

Like others have said this thread is silly, asking people what you should trend into next.

simmode1
07-15-2012, 12:10 AM
The cheapest thing one can do to a Porsche 944 is buy it.
Plus the car has a tendency to burn down to the ground. Ironically, exactly that happened to a local kid who bought one.

There is a reason why they sell for less than beat up 240SX's.
Thanks for the heads up. I knew maintenance was rough, since my roommate's stayed broken all the damn time, but I thought it was his fault. I was wondering why you don't see more of them...

Well, how about this:
http://i197.photobucket.com/albums/aa264/jsinaga/Dsc_0009.jpg

or

http://fatlace.com/lacedup/wp-content/uploads/2010/10/celicaslam.jpg

or

http://status-cars.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/06/supra_mk4_4.jpg

myKAl
07-15-2012, 12:24 AM
nice ^^ i've definetly(spell check) seen more modified 944s then supra 3s, thatd be pretty cool, what about the 914s, theyre pretty cool, not my taste for looks but sounds intense, dont know much about them though

Walperstyle
07-15-2012, 01:54 AM
Sunbeam tiger with SR20 Swap

ghost_silvia
07-15-2012, 02:14 AM
My dad got his 924 from my uncle I guess as a midlife crisis deal. Fucking neighborhood kids rolled it down the street and stripped the interior. It never ran the same and the parts were expensive as he'll. I personally have always liked the 928s. Maybe find a cheap boxter and slam it. Starion / conquests are pretty uncommon.

Slammed Assassin
07-15-2012, 02:25 AM
Im seeing more and more slammed mini trucks.

TheWolf
07-15-2012, 02:55 AM
The only problem with 944's is LSD's and how they mount their turbos.

not all 944 turbos come with LSD's. Since they run a torque tube/rear transaxle, it's a bitch to put one in and it costs an arm and a leg. About $2000 for a new LSD and then you install it, which consists of R&Ring a whole porsche transmission, or $1200-$1500 for a nice used porsche turbo lsd equipped gearbox.

Second. Turbos. Most people mount turbos off a short manifold. not porsche and their infinite wisdom. Since the motor is canted space is unavailable so they have a small manifold that goes to a pipe. That pipe wraps underneath the oil pan and back up the other side of the block to the turbo. Yep the turbo is placed underneath that lame intake then the intercooler piping does another lap of the engine bay.

It looked worse than the audi turbo quatro's in the day.

That and spontaneous combustion is confirmed.

rat240
07-15-2012, 02:56 AM
http://images.minitruckinweb.com/features/nissan/0607mt_02_z+1983_nissan_720_pickup+side_angle.jpg
http://carphotos.cardomain.com/ride_images/1/2895/3241/7236620001_large.jpg
http://www.bluepanic.jp/06-final/lowrider-award.JPG

upsdude
07-15-2012, 03:17 AM
what's old is new again.

Piggy
07-15-2012, 09:09 AM
Interesting thread.

No go on the Porsche. I've tried and the little shit just gets too annoying. Unless you've got the money to put a v8 in one and be racecar.

Mini trucks are boring, all show.

I've just always done my own thing, because there's never been a scene really in any place I've lived, so everything I've gotten idea's from were usually from someone I'll never meet. At first I was into muscle (south, go figure), and I really enjoyed it and I'm actually giving it another shot on my recently completed project.

http://i1113.photobucket.com/albums/k516/matthewcollins601/cutlass.jpg
These are just so nice to drag on Friday then just enjoy cruising on Sunday. (I feel old reading that.) 72 Cutlass, 350 'Rocket'

I've been sucked into the drifting scene, not because it's blowing up around me (LOL!), but because that shit is generally one of the most fun things to do in a car. There's just not a lot of that in my area, and traveling + tires makes me end up with an awesome drift car with nowhere to take it.

http://i1113.photobucket.com/albums/k516/matthewcollins601/kouki.jpg

Before that, I did the v8 in an S-chassis because everyone seemed to have an awesome time with that. It was fun but honestly couldn't do anything but drag it. I did the lq4/lsx (ls2 heads, cam) and I put too short of a rear end in it to really enjoy it.

http://i1113.photobucket.com/albums/k516/matthewcollins601/v8240sx.jpg
Tailor queen.

*Shit load of s13's to find one I actually enjoyed*

I inadvertently tried the vip thing, but there's not anything fun about it so what can I say.

http://i1113.photobucket.com/albums/k516/matthewcollins601/tsws.jpg

Honestly, some of the most, all-around fun cars I had were cheap little Honda's when I was coming up to bigger things. They didn't break my bank, I didn't care what anyone thought of em or what was "in", and easy as hell to go to an Autocross and win in any class. I still try to keep one as a daily.

http://i1113.photobucket.com/albums/k516/matthewcollins601/car2.jpg

So, to answer your original question, I would like to see old school Japanese more often. My mom had an old Celica when I was younger and I love the small muscle look they had, just no so much the feeling. Engine would have to be something radical. I know I enjoy old school muscle and I enjoy my shitty Jap cars too, so I'm curious to find out what building a true cross would feel like. Oh, I had a Starion and it was cool, just hard to source a lot of things in any quick way. Just a lot of waiting games I played trying to get mine on the road.

brndck
07-15-2012, 09:51 AM
Chevy cavalier is the new cool thing. Get on it.

TougeLove
07-15-2012, 11:40 AM
^haha

I also thought about going 70's muscle (something that isnt going for 50k) and adding a cleaner look. I'm still doing research, but something like 1975 mustang with a little bit of 70's era celica JDM touch. Muscle under the hood, but just some simple aesthetics that change the overall look just enough.

Piggy
07-15-2012, 12:04 PM
^haha

I also thought about going 70's muscle (something that isnt going for 50k) and adding a cleaner look. I'm still doing research, but something like 1975 mustang with a little bit of 70's era celica JDM touch. Muscle under the hood, but just some simple aesthetics that change the overall look just enough.

That would be cool, with little diffusers and canards and whatnot.

It's always a pretty good choice. I have a lot of fun with mine, no matter what I'm going for, the end result always makes me way more happy compared to building anything else = truth. I'm happy with my whitetop cruiser with a sultry 400hp.

simmode1
07-15-2012, 05:01 PM
Second. Turbos. Most people mount turbos off a short manifold. not porsche and their infinite wisdom. Since the motor is canted space is unavailable so they have a small manifold that goes to a pipe. That pipe wraps underneath the oil pan and back up the other side of the block to the turbo. Yep the turbo is placed underneath that lame intake then the intercooler piping does another lap of the engine bay.

It looked worse than the audi turbo quatro's in the day.

That and spontaneous combustion is confirmed.
Man, are you fucking serious? Thats the worst turbo setup i've ever heard of. I was never remotely interested in that motor anyways used I heard about their headgasket issues and rebuilt costs. An STI swap just made sense to me. But that LSD issue is retarded as well. WTF was Porsche thinking?

All this is more evidence as to why S-chassis, Miata's and 3-series Beemers are so popular: relatively inexpensive, well thought out and pretty easy to modify. I hate to say it, but of today's cars, I feel that the Genesis coupe is gonna end up being on of those forgotten/overlooked chassis like the Z31's, 944's, Starion/Conquests, etc etc...

EDacIouSX
07-15-2012, 05:29 PM
Man, are you fucking serious? Thats the worst turbo setup i've ever heard of. I was never remotely interested in that motor anyways used I heard about their headgasket issues and rebuilt costs. An STI swap just made sense to me. But that LSD issue is retarded as well. WTF was Porsche thinking?

All this is more evidence as to why S-chassis, Miata's and 3-series Beemers are so popular: relatively inexpensive, well thought out and pretty easy to modify. I hate to say it, but of today's cars, I feel that the Genesis coupe is gonna end up being on of those forgotten/overlooked chassis like the Z31's, 944's, Starion/Conquests, etc etc...

yea, most likely. But, I don't think the car looks all that amazing.

TougeLove
07-15-2012, 05:37 PM
That would be cool, with little diffusers and canards and whatnot.

It's always a pretty good choice. I have a lot of fun with mine, no matter what I'm going for, the end result always makes me way more happy compared to building anything else = truth. I'm happy with my whitetop cruiser with a sultry 400hp.

Yea, kind of like the Mach 1 options but different lol

TheWolf
07-15-2012, 06:19 PM
Man, are you fucking serious? Thats the worst turbo setup i've ever heard of. I was never remotely interested in that motor anyways used I heard about their headgasket issues and rebuilt costs. An STI swap just made sense to me. But that LSD issue is retarded as well. WTF was Porsche thinking?


http://usuarios.multimania.es/cporschecat/images/tecnica/adm944t.jpg

944 air routing, the turbo is hidden by the black air box but you get the idea.

Yes. Porsche does not believe in LSD's. With so much weight hanging out over the rear, they have little need for one but if you want to burn out and drift and hoonigan your toy car around, you'll need one. They make due with an open diff and get a lot done with it but in the end. Everyone is always looking for LSDs. It always runs like $1500-$2000 for one. It would be one thing if the porsche crap got cheaper as the cars became worthless but it doesn't. Brakes, timing belt, water pumps, are all 3x what they should be. As was said before. The cheapest thing about a 944 is buying it.

mantas
07-15-2012, 07:27 PM
A prius has never been done before....throw an LS in it hahah.

jesse_s13
07-15-2012, 08:03 PM
Man, are you fucking serious? Thats the worst turbo setup i've ever heard of. I was never remotely interested in that motor anyways used I heard about their headgasket issues and rebuilt costs. An STI swap just made sense to me. But that LSD issue is retarded as well. WTF was Porsche thinking?

All this is more evidence as to why S-chassis, Miata's and 3-series Beemers are so popular: relatively inexpensive, well thought out and pretty easy to modify. I hate to say it, but of today's cars, I feel that the Genesis coupe is gonna end up being on of those forgotten/overlooked chassis like the Z31's, 944's, Starion/Conquests, etc etc...

Z31 suspension are bitch to modify.

S14DB
07-15-2012, 08:05 PM
http://usuarios.multimania.es/cporschecat/images/tecnica/adm944t.jpg

944 air routing, the turbo is hidden by the black air box but you get the idea.

Yes. Porsche does not believe in LSD's. With so much weight hanging out over the rear, they have little need for one but if you want to burn out and drift and hoonigan your toy car around, you'll need one. They make due with an open diff and get a lot done with it but in the end. Everyone is always looking for LSDs. It always runs like $1500-$2000 for one. It would be one thing if the porsche crap got cheaper as the cars became worthless but it doesn't. Brakes, timing belt, water pumps, are all 3x what they should be. As was said before. The cheapest thing about a 944 is buying it.
LSD thing is from people loving to lift oversteer with the 911.

The TQ tube is the annoying part. Least Audi parts fit readily.

BossHogg
07-15-2012, 08:06 PM
lol those mini trucks with sub walls make me want to bump some old Too $hort. Truth is though, there is no new trend as far as imports go. New trend now a day's is new car models. Drifting was new to USA yet still old. Some of us knew about it and liked 240's at a time when the closest you got to an sr20 was through a photo. I guarantee a lot of people either had a honda, eclipse or talon then turned into nissan heads once the drift scene hit. Car scene has kind of been on a shallow lately if you ask me. But I got a feeling with the new ft 86 and genesis coupe and what not the rwd compacts are going to make a come back shortly. I can foresee a silvia revival car IF they play it right. S13 coupe was big deal in japan, so a revival car would not only be big in japan. It would probably do OK everywhere else to, with what fan base the 240/200 has grown to be. Not to mention the aussie/kiwi's. I would just save your money for something new to hit and be on top of the game, honestly. Either that or old school japan car(classics are always cool even USDM classics). Really the only two options I can see blowing money on at this point in import scene. That or just import a non US model car. Just my opinion.

simmode1
07-15-2012, 09:52 PM
yea, most likely. But, I don't think the car looks all that amazing.

Z31 suspension are bitch to modify.
Exactly why I'm thinking the Genesis coupe might eventually be lumped in with forgettable cars like the Z31: They sound good on paper, but real world specifics may make them difficult to modify to your desire.

The Z31 suspension issue is probably to only thing that keeps it from being a better drift option than an S-chassis IMO.

With the Genesis coupe (at least with the facelight version), you have to replace the entire exhaust manifold to upgrade the turbo. Might as well be a damn N/A to turbo project for the money and work thats gonna entail. Really annoying decision, Hyundai.

Freakchakra
07-15-2012, 10:02 PM
I want a 1st gen MR2 or a Mitsubishi Starion

Sent from my C771 using Tapatalk 2

S14DB
07-15-2012, 10:05 PM
With the Genesis coupe (at least with the facelight version), you have to replace the entire exhaust manifold to upgrade the turbo. Might as well be a damn N/A to turbo project for the money and work thats gonna entail. Really annoying decision, Hyundai.
You have to do that with the SR too. Engine side bolts are a bitch to get to.

dawagarage
07-15-2012, 10:19 PM
A prius has never been done before....throw an LS in it hahah.
beeeeent, wrong.
http://www.canibeat.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/02/b0a4596d.jpg
http://www.canibeat.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/02/48edc8a9.jpg
http://www.tunerzine.com/articles/384/prius_render_1.jpg
prius modding is big in japan. just like everything else

tqstarburst
07-15-2012, 10:32 PM
I think old school cars are going to be the next big thing. Mixing old usdm muscle with a bit of jdm flavor and vice versa.

TougeLove
07-15-2012, 10:49 PM
Exactly what I was thinking ^. I may stick to usdm for cheaper and easier to find parts.

dawagarage
07-15-2012, 11:01 PM
old school cars arent going to be "THE NEXT BIG THING" because they were never NOT being modified. theyve always been around, and have always been 'big.' its just a different 'scene' than 'ours' so maybe we/you arent as familiar with it.

tqstarburst
07-16-2012, 12:01 AM
^
Mixing old usdm muscle with a bit of jdm flavor and vice versa.

I'm aware that they've always been "big" and "around".

Read what i said.

hypercrush
07-16-2012, 12:05 AM
i have had a surge of customers coming to me with older toyotas/nissans asking me to restore or resto-mod them. last week my shop had a celica-supra, a starlet, a 74 hilux and a 80something celica in it being worked on or waiting to be. classic japanese car interest is definitely on the rise.

dawagarage
07-16-2012, 12:07 AM
^
Mixing old usdm muscle with a bit of jdm flavor and vice versa.

I'm aware that they've always been "big" and "around".

Read what i said.

I think old school cars are going to be the next big thing.

i was responding to the first sentence, not the second.

read what you said.

tqstarburst
07-16-2012, 12:18 AM
You're an idiot. They both go together, so there's no need to reply to the first one. If you know how to read and comprehend, you'd know what i was talking about. But seems like you need more elaboration.

Touge and hyper understood what i said but i guess i should've specified myself.

Hyper's words.

"classic japanese car interest is definitely on the rise".

Anyways.

fyneyoungstunna
07-16-2012, 12:49 AM
944's hard to modify?
cant drift one?
lsd...?
apparently some people that spoke on this have not really delved into it?
swap in a 350,ls1, or fuck even an sr20/ka24...its all been done.
that solves half of your parts issues.
change the drivetrain out to Audi (i think someone said that)
Saab, or Volvo (i think it was) works too.
thats the other half of your issues solved.

DS562
07-16-2012, 01:10 AM
i dont know about you guys, but im kind of sold on the modification potential of the older VW bugs. there's a youtube video of one with a hayabusa engine in it that hauls. hell, i have plans for a squareback! what ever your choice, please remember that anything worth doing, is worth doing right.

dawagarage
07-16-2012, 01:14 AM
You're an idiot. They both go together, so there's no need to reply to the first one. If you know how to read and comprehend, you'd know what i was talking about. But seems like you need more elaboration.

Touge and hyper understood what i said but i guess i should've specified myself.

Hyper's words.

"classic japanese car interest is definitely on the rise".

Anyways.

they are 2 completely different sentences. maybe you should learn how to construct a complete/all inclusive sentence or statement?

anyways, what was the blend you had in mind anyways. why dont you elaborate on that and we'll most past the previous part.

simmode1
07-16-2012, 01:15 AM
You have to do that with the SR too. Engine side bolts are a bitch to get to.
Wait. What? Are you saying you have to replace the factory manifold if you wanna run something like a GT2871r or GT28rs on the SR20?

Hyundai's factory turbo and manifold are 1 piece in the newer car. Can't upgrade one without upgrading the other. But you can still bolt on a turbo upgrade on the earlier version's factory manifold.

S14DB
07-16-2012, 02:02 AM
Wait. What? Are you saying you have to replace the factory manifold if you wanna run something like a GT2871r or GT28rs on the SR20?

Hyundai's factory turbo and manifold are 1 piece in the newer car. Can't upgrade one without upgrading the other. But you can still bolt on a turbo upgrade on the earlier version's factory manifold.
Sorry I meant removing.

The manifold is the same thing on the newer evo's. They make turbos that have a turbine side that bolts into the stock manifold now.

simmode1
07-16-2012, 02:12 AM
I'm sorry, but help me to understand this. I know the Evo X and the Genesis coupe use very similar engines. Are you saying the Evo X also has an integrated exhaust manifold + turbo setup that connects the compressor side, but the turbine side is upgradeable without replacing the whole manifold?!?

If so... Thank God. There may be hope for the Genesis coupe yet.

Edit: Hmmm. Interesting reading...
http://www.motoiq.com/magazine_articles/id/1285/hyundai-4b11-arrives-at-cosworth.aspx

tqstarburst
07-16-2012, 08:57 AM
they are 2 completely different sentences. maybe you should learn how to construct a complete/all inclusive sentence or statement?

anyways, what was the blend you had in mind anyways. why dont you elaborate on that and we'll most past the previous part.

Nope, everyone understood what i said besides your stupid ass. I guess your special ed.

S'okay bud.

Now stfu yeah?

I don't want to school and feed the troll anymore. Let's carry on with the topic.

http://i45.tinypic.com/2it21ar.jpg

fyneyoungstunna
07-16-2012, 10:23 AM
gawd I love that color

KiLLeR2001
07-16-2012, 10:34 AM
Mitsubishi Starion

http://world-viewer.com/data_images/mitsubishi-starion/mitsubishi-starion-04.jpg

fyneyoungstunna
07-16-2012, 01:01 PM
For some reason I like that prius with the works. Still don't think i would choose to drive one especially with the mini cooper on the field.

dawagarage
07-16-2012, 01:42 PM
Nope, everyone understood what i said besides your stupid ass. I guess your special ed.

S'okay bud.

Now stfu yeah?

I don't want to school and feed the troll anymore. Let's carry on with the topic.



lol @ 'school' the troll. im sorry bro but if YOU'RE going to throw "idiot, stupid ass, & special ed" around, at least, AT LEAST make sure your sentences are proper and that your spelling is correct.

here, this might help you The Complete Sentence (http://www.chompchomp.com/terms/completesentence.htm)

to address your second sentence from your op: the japanese have been emulating the americans and vice versa ever since cars have been around. come over to ratsun and see for yourself.

to summarize, i understood you the whole time, but i didnt want to offend you by telling you that you were wrong on both accounts and i wanted to point out how your initial, fragmented sentence was incorrect.

and damn homie its just the internetz, no need to get so defensive

Heytheremr2
07-17-2012, 01:40 AM
http://www.ziptied.com/Coppermine/albums/userpics/10385/avion2.jpg


Z31's get less credit than they deserve. It has both hindered and aided the small following it has. On one hand, they aren't tainted with fanboy taxes like S-chassis and AE86's. On the other hand, we have very little aftermarket support, and the little that we do have ask for rediculous prices. I am not going to pay $1300 on Stance coilovers for my car just because they are the only company that provides them for our Z's. The price of the car alone is half that, on average. But we also are left with tapping into our own ingenuity and finding ways around our problem. Like modifying s13 coilovers for our cars, S30 fender flares for our Z, SC300 rear shocks for our rears, s13 short shifters, etc etc.

silnv
07-17-2012, 06:14 AM
Thats a clean z31!

simmode1
07-17-2012, 06:14 AM
^^^Wait... WTF? Seriously? Are you telling me Stance made a bolt on coilover option for the Z31 and that community thinks its too expensive?!? $1300 isn't all that bad of a price for coilovers. No wonder that community gets no support.

Isn't this the same Z31 posted above?
L-VtlKqrPbk

I think thats the best built Z31 I've seen and even he said in the comments that the Stance coilover option is the best setup available and the only reason he didn't use it is because it didn't exist when he built his car.
Huh? Stance has a full kit for Z31's. You can even use it with the S-chassis subframe swap. Why would you NOT get that? Only reason some of us are using S13/S14 coilovers hacked to fit the Z is because there were NO options up until 2 years ago. I extended my towers is because I special ordered my S14 coilovers and was stuck with them. I should put a disclaimer on all my media showing them saying: "Don't do this". Better than Stance? Not really anything better IMO, especially for the money.

wh0aitznic0
07-17-2012, 08:49 AM
build what YOU want

not to follow trends

HyperTek
07-17-2012, 01:18 PM
my next project car will be
67-68 Mercury cougar The V8 Interceptor [S4 Ep.11-1] - YouTube (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gyPtjBE5Jts)

Im digging 60s domestics, those cars are awesome.

VROOOM
07-17-2012, 01:37 PM
I want a Volvo P1800 next

http://ls1tech.com/forums/attachments/conversions-hybrids/43468d1128448807-volvo-p1800-img_1830.jpg

this one has a 289ci V8 in it.

TheCressidaFanboy
07-17-2012, 01:49 PM
What about a mid 80's Toyota Cressida? Mx-73 sedans or Mx-72 wagons (harder to find). Both models have great potential, enormous engine bays, really sweet futuristic interior designs, sweet body lines, incredibly comfortable (its like driving a couch) and look really good when done on proper wheels... The only big drawback is factory 5spd are hard to come by and the whole "aftermarket" availability isn't really there. Most things are going to have to be 1-off and custom made.


http://carjunkies.files.wordpress.com/2009/10/img_9396_mx73_cressida_ssr_markiii_jccs_copy.jpg

DisEpyon
07-17-2012, 04:33 PM
This should of been called "Pictures of the next trend thread".

Some nice "trends" in here though.

TougeLove
07-17-2012, 04:35 PM
build what YOU want

not to follow trends

I build what I want. What's wrong with some insight? Instead of looking at a magazine I am looking online. Same end results, different source.

atom
07-17-2012, 05:16 PM
I've been seeing a lot of nice first gen RX7's lately. Before they used to be all POS's but I've seen a lot more nicely restored/modded.

Really diggin Saab 99 Turbo's. Used to think Saab 900's were quirky/cool in high school.

TheCressidaFanboy
07-17-2012, 06:03 PM
+1 for the saab turbo idea.

soreballz
07-17-2012, 07:35 PM
If by trend you mean bandwagon, then a Cressida would be right up your alley.

TheCressidaFanboy
07-17-2012, 07:56 PM
Well in a way, a trend starts by everyone jumping on a so called "bandwagon". I guess it depends on how you look at things.

Kuma
07-17-2012, 11:32 PM
(Not the next big thing, but a fun/cool project) Fox body thunderbirds and cougars. 2 good engine options, the 2.3t or the 5.0 v8. Way cooler than fox body mustangs... And not many people have done them right. But since you can use a bunch of parts from fox body mustangs, repairs and mods don't cost much because mustang/5.0 parts are plentiful.
http://www.google.com/url?source=imglanding&ct=img&q=http://www.coolcats.net/eric/images/86gs03.jpg&sa=X&ei=m0gGUJGOHKeq2gXk2Km_BQ&ved=0CAwQ8wc4VA&usg=AFQjCNEK682zm80KCLphT_58yge0TMyUyQ
http://www.google.com/url?source=imglanding&ct=img&q=http://memimage.cardomain.com/ride_images/1/839/2921/2096460311_large.jpg&sa=X&ei=iUwGUODnNKno2QXC4uW1BQ&ved=0CAwQ8wc&usg=AFQjCNG4A9MrlxMz3yRJymf7giB_unowYQ

This one is my project that I'm probably about to sell or strip because all my spare money is going towards the s14 and this has been on the backburner for almost a year now.

88 cougar xr7 5.0...
https://sphotos-a.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-snc6/248059_362108737175507_1591908772_n.jpg

soreballz
07-17-2012, 11:42 PM
^Fox Cougars are like the Fox Mustang's retarded cousin. Not many people have "done them right" because they're horrible looking. No amount of "automotive make-up" can hide that sort of ugly.
The front end of the black one isn't awful, but everything behind the a-pillars ruins the rest of the car.

Heytheremr2
07-18-2012, 12:36 AM
^^^Wait... WTF? Seriously? Are you telling me Stance made a bolt on coilover option for the Z31 and that community thinks its too expensive?!? $1300 isn't all that bad of a price for coilovers. No wonder that community gets no support.

Isn't this the same Z31 posted above?
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I think thats the best built Z31 I've seen and even he said in the comments that the Stance coilover option is the best setup available and the only reason he didn't use it is because it didn't exist when he built his car.

A lot of people buy them. Some of which save every nickel and dime to buy them. Them being too expensive is my personal opinion. That being said, I have bigger priorities in my life than spending my extra money on aftermarket parts. Not demeaning those who do by no means though. I say it because I have a kid on the way and my priorities have shifted a bit. I'll buy affordable parts when I can but first I have to make sure my new family is taken care of.

S14DB
07-18-2012, 10:14 AM
(Not the next big thing, but a fun/cool project) Fox body thunderbirds and cougars. 2 good engine options, the 2.3t or the 5.0 v8. Way cooler than fox body mustangs... And not many people have done them right. But since you can use a bunch of parts from fox body mustangs, repairs and mods don't cost much because mustang/5.0 parts are plentiful.
I would rather have a 2nd gen Capri than those. Mark VII if we are talking boats...

simmode1
07-18-2012, 12:30 PM
A lot of people buy them. Some of which save every nickel and dime to buy them. Them being too expensive is my personal opinion. That being said, I have bigger priorities in my life than spending my extra money on aftermarket parts. Not demeaning those who do by no means though. I say it because I have a kid on the way and my priorities have shifted a bit. I'll buy affordable parts when I can but first I have to make sure my new family is taken care of.
I get you, man. What I simply meant to imply is that when you compare the price of the Stance Z31 coilovers, they're in line with other similar offerings for other cars. Unless you're hoping for Godspeed/K-sport/Megan prices & quality, I'd say there isn't much to complain about Stance's price for those coils since they're a superior product in that segment. If the price is too high for the Stance's, just wait for a major holiday when vendors start having all their crazy sales...

But I must thank you though. Because the revelation that there are now bolt on coilovers for the Z31 have me very seriously looking at that chassis for a new drifter. Dirt cheap turbo power with a super fat powerband and an assload of torque is all I could ask for. I wonder how much effort would it take to get that car to between 350-400whp and what the torque would be around there...

Heytheremr2
07-18-2012, 05:40 PM
There is one thing you'll need and that's an adapter tube that you will need in order to weld onto the front struts seeing as the fronts aren't McPhersons. You cut the strut tubing down to the spindle, weld the tube onto it, then thread the coil overs on. You can custom make those or order them from serial nine. S13 coils work as well and there are vendors that sell the adapters for what you need

simmode1
07-18-2012, 05:59 PM
You still gotta do all that welding even with the Stance's? Geez... nevermind. I see your point now. If you still gotta do all that, the value decreases. Ppl want simple bolt on solutions. I guess the Z31 really is the DIY/bolt-on proof car.

Heytheremr2
07-20-2012, 01:59 PM
These are the coil overs

http://www.tougefactory.com/tfdave/z31.jpg


This is what you need to do to the front. Once you buy the coilovers and the adapter tubes, the cutting and welding is cheap/easy to do.

http://home.comcast.net/~movistar323/SERIAL9.JPG

simmode1
07-20-2012, 04:06 PM
I don't see why someone doesn't just make an adjustable Z31 coilover with an upgraded knuckle included, so you can just throw away the stock piece. We're talking, what? Another $200-$300? Gimme.

z32boy
07-20-2012, 04:47 PM
A nicely done older car will always be hot.............

Here's some ideas- Mitsubushi Conquest TSI turbo

http://www.allpar.com/photos/chrysler/conquest/1989-conquest.jpg

Dodge Omni GLH

http://themotoringenthusiastjournal.com/photo_gallery/images/hot%20hatch/86GLHS.jpg

Mazda 323 GTX

http://themotoringenthusiastjournal.com/photo_gallery/images/hot%20hatch/GTX_2.jpg

Mitsubishi Galant VR4

http://cheapcarsdomain.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/05/vr-4.jpg

TougeLove
07-20-2012, 06:07 PM
that galant looks sick! I want to stay away from the box 80's cars unless i see one with some great potential. kinda frothing on the MK3 supras right now. I just want a smooth car with not too much hype behind it. cha know?

z32boy
07-20-2012, 08:02 PM
that galant looks sick! I want to stay away from the box 80's cars unless i see one with some great potential. kinda frothing on the MK3 supras right now. I just want a smooth car with not too much hype behind it. cha know?

Yea the Galant VR4 has lots of potential, AWD turbo!

Kuma
07-21-2012, 06:38 AM
I would rather have a 2nd gen Capri than those. Mark VII if we are talking boats...

capris look too much like mustangs. And marks don't catch my eye like tbirds and cougars... Something about them I like... I wanted to turbo my 5.0 cougar originally... But I like my s14 better, and don't have the money for 2 projects. Probably going to strip the coilovers and all the new parts off mine and roll it across the scales before the summer is up... Maybe get enough for some coils and rims by the time the partout is complete.

fortheloveofdrifting_2010
08-17-2012, 11:15 AM
this thread is awful. back when "rice" was cool, it wasn't fucking rice. drifting is still cool. jdm shit is still cool.


do what you want, chances are nobody will like it anyway. your shit should make you happy.



Hes only 20 he was still a baby at that time:duh:

spooled240
08-17-2012, 12:11 PM
i saw one of these on the freeway last week
http://deankuan.com/blog/wp-content/uploads/2009/06/mitsubishi_lancer_evo_3_e847_-058_1.jpg

It was LHD. I dunno how you make one of these, out of a Mirage?

I think old school 80's and early 90's japanese cars will become the next trend. Cars seem to go through a 25 year cycle of massive depreciation and little to no attention then blow up as current trend die.

TwelveAM
08-17-2012, 12:49 PM
Something out of the ordinary

Merkur XRT4i

http://carphotos.cardomain.com/ride_images/4/1013/100/40030049611_large.jpg

http://i232.photobucket.com/albums/ee81/sawill7428/Merk/SierraCosworthCXNs1.jpg

S14DB
08-17-2012, 07:53 PM
i saw one of these on the freeway last week
http://deankuan.com/blog/wp-content/uploads/2009/06/mitsubishi_lancer_evo_3_e847_-058_1.jpg

It was LHD. I dunno how you make one of these, out of a Mirage?
1988–2000 Lancer is the same thing as a Mirage.