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MyFirst240SX
01-02-2002, 06:32 PM
Are GT-R  Symbols to tacky for the s13 fb's?

BlankFlip
01-02-2002, 06:39 PM
To me, YES, to you, maybe not, but let me say this again, to me, YES.

Skiman112
01-02-2002, 06:40 PM
Only if you dont have a gt-r.  Honestly, why would you want a badge on your car that it is not.  Sorry if im coming off as a dick.

transient
01-02-2002, 06:42 PM
yeah, I think that's definately crossing the line.

MyFirst240SX
01-02-2002, 06:44 PM
Yeah i got the Idea from a "GT-R Maxima" i thought it looked neat.  Oh well i might save that 7 bucks and spend on some nice Blue Neon Fuzzy dice.

BlankFlip
01-02-2002, 06:44 PM
just as bad as having a type-r sticker on there.

MyFirst240SX
01-02-2002, 07:24 PM
Well not as bad as the Civic i saw with a big honda thing on one window and TRD under it. i couldn't stop laughing

whateverjames
01-02-2002, 07:27 PM
neon fuzzy dice that's just a 'style' thing, i don't think it can be considered rice because you're not advertising something you don't have. but a GTR badge is technically rice, in my book.

MyFirst240SX
01-02-2002, 07:55 PM
Ive been driving a 1989 F-150 for while and i put black fuzzy dice in there.  SO thats sorta my thing but i dont go all the way with the shift knob and all that.
Hey whateverjames   what color is your 240? looks just like mine from the pic.

whateverjames
01-02-2002, 08:47 PM
hello. mine is a special 'sun faded black' color :cheesy:

misnomer
01-02-2002, 10:17 PM
fuzzy dice > GTR emblem. The GTR emblem belongs on NOTHING but a Skyline GTR. I won't even make an exception for a 240 with an rb engine in it. Don't put it there, be proud that you have a 240, get it some nice fuzzy dice :-)

Nismos14
01-02-2002, 10:25 PM
yeah definately not a gt-r symbol..... it looks good but means ur not the smartest cookie when it comes to car's

slowmo240
01-02-2002, 11:01 PM
the same goes for silvia badges..it looks nice and all but we dont have a silvia unless we have the silvia engine.  we have a 240sx...just my opinion

onebadm5
01-02-2002, 11:50 PM
</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote </td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">Quote: from MyFirst240SX on 6:32 pm on Jan. 2, 2002
Are GT-R Symbols to tacky for the s13 fb's?
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you'd be surprised what's considered &quot;tacky&quot; around here, someone has a GT-R badge on his SN95 Mustang.

wav399
01-02-2002, 11:58 PM
Hey man, do what you like. &nbsp;It's your car and you are actually &nbsp;
customizing it the way you want. &nbsp;I think as long as you do not put honda signs on a nissan. &nbsp;I'm sure alot of you guys do not agree but as long as you do it with a little taste. &nbsp;That's really what they do in Japan, ain't it? &nbsp;And we just follow. &nbsp;Another way of looking at it is, you are paying hommage to the GTR or Silvia. &nbsp;

West
01-03-2002, 12:41 AM
VERY IMHO, be proud you own a 240SX they are fucking badass cars if they are modified right and only the true enthusiest know what a silvia is or know the potential of a 240sx. I dont even like to see the silvia/180sx swaped with a skyline front, although I think the skyline style front bumper is badass.

Grant
01-03-2002, 04:36 AM
great, not i got to go find my 240sx and SE emblems and put it back on dammit. I like being the UFO on 4 wheels.

RoNx777
01-03-2002, 08:14 AM
Unless you have A RB &nbsp;under that hood, your going all out RICE. But then again its your car.

NoTuchn
01-03-2002, 09:00 AM
please dont put on any gt-r emblems! please!!! its false advertisement. &nbsp;you should be proud of what you own, a 240SX!!!

plus, its tacky. but do what you want... along with the freedom that cars give us, is the freedom to do what we want with them. so its your car, its up to you...

but please dont! for the rest of us 240 drivers!!! <img src="http://www.zilvia.net/f/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/smile.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=':)'> <img src="http://www.zilvia.net/f/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/smile.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=':)'>

HippoSleek
01-03-2002, 09:24 AM
... and I was going to put a Lamborghini Diablo emblem on my Dodge Colt -- &nbsp;afterall, it was the same company up until 1994. &nbsp;Chrysler group owned Lamborghini and Dodge and made both cars. &nbsp;So that would be okay, right?

How about a Corvette z06 emblem on my Cavalier? &nbsp;

(now if you think either of the above prospects are stupid, maybe you ought to rethink your choice of emblems... if you think either are a good idea, prepare for some criticism from the world around you)

vancouvers14
01-03-2002, 11:05 AM
</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote </td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">Quote: from slowmo240 on 1<img src="http://www.zilvia.net/f/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/wow.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=':0'>1 am on Jan. 3, 2002
the same goes for silvia badges..it looks nice and all but we dont have a silvia unless we have the silvia engine. we have a 240sx...just my opinion
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who says we don't have a silvia engine? &nbsp;the s14 chassis came with either the sr20de, sr20det, and ka24de. &nbsp;The chassis makes it a silvia, not the engine. &nbsp;Is a civic with an sr allowed to have silvia emblems? &nbsp;By your logic, yes. &nbsp;Even if you have an sr, did you also make it rhd, add a rear windshield wiper, add a digital climate control, etc, etc? &nbsp;Its not just the engine....

whateverjames
01-03-2002, 12:13 PM
that's what i was thinking, the KA came in the silvia.

teamcapsule
01-03-2002, 12:30 PM
Dude, don't put on the GT-R badge... that would be so lame!

misnomer
01-03-2002, 01:17 PM
</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote </td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">who says we don't have a silvia engine? the s14 chassis came with either the sr20de, sr20det, and ka24de. The chassis makes it a silvia, not the engine.</td></tr></table><span id='postcolor'>

Well, the s14 chassis came with the SR20DE(T) and the KA24DE. The Silvia came with the SR20DE(T) in Japan and Aus (IIRC), the 200sx came with the SR20DE(T) in Europe, and the 240sx came with the KA24DE in the US. Technically speaking, a 240sx can be an s14, but a Silvia is it's sister, a different car. They are close enough for me not to bitch n moan about people putting Silvia badges on their 240s, though I wouldn't do it myself. Of course, this is all open to interpretation. . .

HippoSleek
01-03-2002, 01:43 PM
Warning - lengthy mental masterbation exercise below. &nbsp;Skip it if you really don't care and are just looking for flames...

</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote </td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">Quote: from vancouvers14 on 9<img src="http://www.zilvia.net/f/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/wow.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=':0'>5 am on Jan. 3, 2002
who says we don't have a silvia engine? the s14 chassis came with either the sr20de, sr20det, and ka24de. The chassis makes it a silvia, not the engine. Is a civic with an sr allowed to have silvia emblems? By your logic, yes. Even if you have an sr, did you also make it rhd, add a rear windshield wiper, add a digital climate control, etc, etc? Its not just the engine....
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hmm... very interesting... this opens up new questions (I'm not badgering here, it just struck me <img src="http://www.zilvia.net/f/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/smile.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=':)'>)

Technically, there is no LHD Silvia and misnomoer is basically correct. The RHD (even in Australia) s14 is sold as a 200sx, not a Silvia. 200sx is not a Silvia, so badges would be inaccurate Silvia, it appears, was only legally sold in Japan in RHD format... but that's not the interesting part.

The interesting part, IMHO, is the divorce b/n chassis and engine codes. Nissan 240 owners always want to rant that the &quot;Silvia&quot; is so named b/c it rides on the &quot;s&quot; chassis. The claim is that the 240sx is, in chassis a Silvia, but in engine a 240. Some claim that a 240sx is a Silvia out of the box b/c the name goes w/ the chassis. For others, the SR swap magically transforms the 240sx into a Silvia (making it eligible for K's badges and new trunk and hood trim).

However, using either of these styles of logic, a 1992-1995 Honda Civic becomes an Integra with a motor swap - if not out of the box! You see, the EG chassis used by Honda is the same chassis used for the DC2 Integra. As a result, every Civic owner has as much right to call his car an Integra as 240sx owners to call their cars Silvias. After the motor swap, there is no difference - same ability. But they don't - why? Is it because the chassis code is different - even if it is the exact same chassis? Is it because the body/shell is different?

If it's the chassis code (and not the actual chassis) that separates the EG from the DC2, then technically, ingrained in the chassis code for the USDM 240sx there is info about the market of the car (for crash protection and a few structural items). Thus, no s14 chassis code could ever be a Silvia chassis code b/c encoded in it is its North American destination and additional protection. As a result, no matter how hard you try, you still have a 240sx (or a Civic, if that's you <img src="http://www.zilvia.net/f/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/wink.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=';)'>).

At any rate, just struck me that the chassis debate is only taken up by the 240 crowd... the rest just call it like they see it (or try to upgrade to an unavailable trim level (like Type R)). So my advice - enjoy your 240sx... it ain't a GTR and it technically ain't ever gonna be a Silvia either...

(Edited by HippoSleek at 11:46 am on Jan. 3, 2002)

misnomer
01-03-2002, 04:07 PM
Yeah, uh, that was good. . .

BlankFlip
01-03-2002, 04:47 PM
it's just a name though, maybe nissan usa thought '240sx' would just appeal better to us so they didn't go w/ silvia. what's the differences in the 300zx's here n overseas?

MyFirst240SX
01-03-2002, 06:08 PM
OK i think im going to not put the gt-r badge on there. &nbsp;Yeah oh well. &nbsp;Im not all up for going rice. &nbsp;Now onto shag carpet......

vancouvers14
01-03-2002, 06:50 PM
it the same car, its just that in the japanese market very few/no cars the numbered names. &nbsp;the US market loves numbered names. &nbsp;a 240sx is a silvia is a 240sx. &nbsp;

PSI240SX
01-03-2002, 09:44 PM
dont put GT-R emblems on anything but a Skyline please.

Archangel
01-03-2002, 10:00 PM
Don't put gtr badges on a car that is not a gtr, and was not (in any form) offered as a gtr.

quick question:
I have a 98 s14. &nbsp;From the pictures I've seen, and the stuff I've read. &nbsp;I have the same chassis, body, and even engine (ka24de in the base silvia). &nbsp;So is the only major difference the right hand drive in a '98 usdm s14, and a jdm s14 ??

AceInHole
01-03-2002, 10:07 PM
</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote </td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">Quote: from Archangel on 10<img src="http://www.zilvia.net/f/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/wow.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=':0'>0 pm on Jan. 3, 2002
Don't put gtr badges on a car that is not a gtr, and was not (in any form) offered as a gtr.

quick question:
I have a 98 s14. From the pictures I've seen, and the stuff I've read. I have the same chassis, body, and even engine (ka24de in the base silvia). So is the only major difference the right hand drive in a '98 usdm s14, and a jdm s14 ?? </td></tr></table><span id='postcolor'>
no silvia was ever offered with a KA24DE.... JDM sivia Q's were simply non turbo SR20DE's. &nbsp;There's the right hand drive, badging, front grille, front bumper, front turn signals, glass headlights, dash, electronic climate control, electric folding mirrors, etc.

BEISSEN
01-03-2002, 10:53 PM
Ok well we are not right hand drive and we did not get the sr20de OR sr20det.BUt to be fair in allrespects the 97-98 models came witheverything except electric climite control &nbsp;and rhd and the sr but as far as head lights go ours are glass unlike the 95-96 so we have all except engine,efm,ecc,and the rear bumper they have but the rest we have we have the jdm turnsignals and the front bumper is the same the dash is only diff cus of rhd.So there is a goodreason for us to call our car a silvia.IMO.But what about the 200sx/240sx we have a 200sx se-r here so whats the diff if we had the 200sx in usa which ours is the 200sx se-r 4dr car then yes we could not compair but face it our car got 3 different names why.I would like to know that.BUt please dont put a gt-r emblem on your car its not our model.

wav399
01-04-2002, 12:45 AM
Okay, there are obviously some good arguments out there but what if you have put hard work and money into your car and turned it into a race ready machine instead of what you bought it as from the dealer. &nbsp;I think you should be able to put an &quot;R&quot; somewhere on it. &nbsp;Maybe we should start making our own rules since Nissan ripped us off here in North America. &nbsp;We could designate our own modified badging to specify what level a car has become. &nbsp; Calling it a grand touring spec or a spec-R should be the appropriate &nbsp;signature to add to our cars.

01-04-2002, 08:45 AM
but what if I take my dog, and give it surgery so it can meow, and do some more plastic surgery so it has the face of a cat...and then shave it...do cat hair implants on it...

could I call it a cat?

sykikchimp
01-04-2002, 03:13 PM
Absolutely.. &nbsp;because it's yours. &nbsp;and you can call it whatever you want. &nbsp;and besides, once you've changed the poor thing that much.. &nbsp;Nobody else would be able to tell the difference. &nbsp;<img src="http://www.zilvia.net/f/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/smile.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=':)'>

vancouvers14
01-04-2002, 06:24 PM
well, the s13 and s14 never came as a specR, so that wouldnt work.

krunko, youve obviously thought about this cat thing alot. &nbsp;i suggest serious counselling...

S13Grl
01-04-2002, 07:11 PM
</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote </td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">Quote: from vancouvers14 on 12<img src="http://www.zilvia.net/f/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/wow.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=':0'>5 pm on Jan. 3, 2002
</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote </td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">Quote: from slowmo240 on 1<img src="http://www.zilvia.net/f/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/wow.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=':0'>1 am on Jan. 3, 2002
the same goes for silvia badges..it looks nice and all but we dont have a silvia unless we have the silvia engine. we have a 240sx...just my opinion
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who says we don't have a silvia engine? the s14 chassis came with either the sr20de, sr20det, and ka24de. The chassis makes it a silvia, not the engine. Is a civic with an sr allowed to have silvia emblems? By your logic, yes. Even if you have an sr, did you also make it rhd, add a rear windshield wiper, add a digital climate control, etc, etc? Its not just the engine....
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How very nicely put. <img src="http://www.zilvia.net/f/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/smile.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=':)'> Cestitam!

Bottom line: GTR badges don't belong on a 240SX.