htm doable with a Ka motor?

[roboticnissan]

I just recently went to horse thief mile with a bone stock dual cam ka. I didnt connect the downhill switchback once. I felt like a few times i came close but i dont have an e brake to hold the drift.

Is it even doable or am i just dreaming. Its a pretty looong gap.

[240zach]

how fast were you going?

[roboticnissan]

Top of second 60mph~

[Banana_Cute]

clutch kick, clutch kick. hahahha. cmon now, if keichii was able to drift in his underpowered 86. Im sure you can. Just keep practicing and you'll get your lines you want.

intake, header exhaust. clutch and light flywheel and a welded diff would prolli give you a lil more boost.

[roboticnissan]

When did kt slide an 86 on htm?

[240zach]

re clutch kick that shit. lol and i would try to hold the drift as much as possible from the first turn then rip the fuck outta the e brake when you transfer and re clutch kick before you lose to much speed. but thats just what id try. lol

[Banana_Cute]

When did kt slide an 86 on htm?

im talking about in general, you dumb motherfucker!

[roboticnissan]

Youve never been htm have you?

[jordaninnovations]

Karl Wasabi can do it. BOSS.

[OutlawLui]

Were is this HTM? located i want to try it

[1on1]

Willow Springs Raceway in Rosamond, CA

[K_style]

im talking about in general, you dumb motherfucker!

Woah woah waoh.. watch out your language mister..

Youve never been htm have you?

I bet my 2 quarts of oil !!!


Any ways.. I have seen KAs doing HTM.. It's do-able definitely but can't say if you could connect all the turns.. I know Fckillerbee did it in his Zenki with KA in it... he posted video somewhere here..

[Banana_Cute]

No, I havent. Like someone in here once said, Not everyone in a 240 drift.

but I've seen plenty of vids.

[K_style]

No, I havent. Like someone in here once said, Not everyone in a 240 drift.

but I've seen plenty of vids.

You don't have to drift to go to HTM.. You could spectate or you could have done time attack.

If you have seen videos of people drifting HTM then you would know how nasty uphills and downhills are.. it would take quite skill to drift and connect all coners with underpower vehicles.

[Banana_Cute]

You don't have to drift to go to HTM.. You could spectate or you could have done time attack.

If you have seen videos of people drifting HTM then you would know how nasty uphills and downhills are.. it would take quite skill to drift and connect all coners with underpower vehicles.

yes, and i never said it was impossible. That's why i stated if KC was able to out drift some cars with his under powered 86, with a lil more practice from the OP, it is possible. and like you said as well. That's all my argument was about.

[fckillerbee]

seen it done with my own eyes...more than possible.

really shallow lines....few clutch kicks....and A LOT of praying. haha.

[WIKID S4TEEN]

Were is this HTM? located i want to try it

Way the fack out here
Driving Directions | Willow Springs International Raceway | Since 1953 (http://willowspringsraceway.info/page.php?id=4)

[karl wasabi]

Karl Wasabi can do it. BOSS.

- You drift the top turn as shallow as you can and apex the turn at the VERY END.
- Hold the drift all the way to the left edge of the track and hold that as long as you can.
- You'll need to transition as late as you can and get as close to the right edge of the track as you can (dirt dropping can help... SOMETIMES).
- Clutch kicking won't really help since you will already be at the end of the power band.
- Hold that drift as long as you can until the car is about to straighten out.
- At that point just "rip that ebrake" and wait till you get to the bottom. haha.

And like David said, all the drifts are going to be super shallow.

EDIT: YOU MUST HAVE AN EBRAKE.

[nieko]

Exactly what KARL WASABI had stated. I did it a million times with my SOHC KA.

With a KA you MUST have an eBrake. SR and pretty much any other motor you can do it without eBrake.





PS PS: I knew Hammy and Wasabi would be here. I like how this thread grabbed all of our attention, haha.

[foreverdark]

Piece of cake! KA 15's done!

[ZX88]

ask BH...............

[EDacIouSX]

yea... shouldn't be ridiculously hard if you have the right tire/wheel setup. I hear from a lot of people that it's not impossible.

[Flybert]

Watch BH.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PO4dje-zTL0&feature=youtu.be&t=42s

He slightly straightens out coming out of the first turn but that is the exact line you have to take to make it. A dirt drop might help you extend but I feel that would be cheating a little.

And listen to Karl. Everything he said was spot on.

[1on1]

There's also a video of BH explaining on how to take HTM in the first 3-15 pages of this thread iirc.

[Brian]

I also have this one. I like it because it goes longer on the track than that other video.

ASB 4 Brian Harte &Mark Slide Squad Drifting w caddyshack! - YouTube (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FOssVcVCWeU)

Just don't be afraid of going off track a few times...

[Brian]

This is a good point to be at
http://bhworld.files.wordpress.com/2011/02/img_1355.jpg


This is a little too much
http://bhworld.files.wordpress.com/2011/02/img_0402.jpg

[TheRealSy90]

Off topic but, is that the 14 that got painted silver and sold to David Titus?

[roboticnissan]

seen it done with my own eyes...more than possible.

really shallow lines....few clutch kicks....and A LOT of praying. haha.



The shallow lines was what i was thinking. More speed and less angle. I guess it doesnt matter cuz imma be turbo in a few days. I think having a super angle kit screwed me over cuz it made me think i could make it i guess.

[cantdrift11]

Great thread. I've seen guys with pretty much stock ka's connect at htm. I'm having the same dilemma myself hahaha. Having a 4dr 3100lb car and with headers, exhaust and intake barely putting 200 at the wheel. I go super shallow full speed and when I transition I end up usually to late and go hard wide into the dirt. THAT or don't get the balls to connect and straighten out real quick.

[fckillerbee]

well...if you aren't drifting at red line...you are probably going too slow...you litterally take everything that a KA has to link that section.

[Brian]

and if you're going too slow, you're DEADDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDD

[fckillerbee]

yup. lol. I don't know how many times i've barely not made it...and ended up in the dirt.

[Brian]

what about this?
bh crash - YouTube (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QVSqUnYGVUc&list=FLcgXviCAV37Echc7qepRtPw&index=2&feature=plpp_video)

[roboticnissan]

well...if you aren't drifting at red line...you are probably going too slow...you litterally take everything that a KA has to link that section.



This is what wanted to hear. You made my day.

[zeebrah]

70psi and a shit ton of camber out back. Just have to really watch you transfers then

[cantdrift11]

what about this?
bh crash - YouTube (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QVSqUnYGVUc&list=FLcgXviCAV37Echc7qepRtPw&index=2&feature=plpp_video)

I do exactly this! Is it you're not holding it long enough? Not enough speed?

[Brian]

70psi?the most I ever ran was 45.


I went off the track on that run because I must have just sucked at that lap or something.

[karl wasabi]

70psi and a shit ton of camber out back. Just have to really watch you transfers then

70 psi and a shit ton of camber? No. Don't listen to him ^^^

When I had a KA I did it on about 45-50psi with close to 0 camber.

Oh and listen to BH. He taught me how to do HTM with KA. haha.

[zeebrah]

Ya don't listen to me despite the fact that's exactly what I did. In a sohc... So maybe 60 in your dual. Its the way to keep sliding and link transitions when uderpowered. Or listen to them and slowly crank it up. And a shitton is prob about -4.

[zeebrah]

Although I forgot about the no ebrake thing...that deff helps when the rear is that lose

[roboticnissan]

Well karl helped me out with alot of isis turbo parts so it wont matter much anyways. And i now have a 100% working hydro handbrake now.

In conclusion to this thread:

Horse thief mile is doable with a ka motor, i just wasnt going hard enuff

[fckillerbee]

what about this?
bh crash - YouTube (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QVSqUnYGVUc&list=FLcgXviCAV37Echc7qepRtPw&index=2&feature=plpp_video)

70psi?the most I ever ran was 45.


I went off the track on that run because I must have just sucked at that lap or something.

HAHAHAHAHAAAA...fuck you had me dying.

I usually ran 50-60 psi....but then again I think I'm the only retard that drifts a KA with 225's on a 18x10 heavy fucking wheels....go with 16's. it's party all day.

[1on1]

I went off the track on that run because I had my dick sucked during that lap or something.

fixed :ddog:

[Brian]

T. M. I.

[Wake]

i just wasnt going hard enuff

Now youve got it.

[OutlawLui]

Spaaaam alert lol