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s14unimog
02-16-2004, 09:29 PM
Ok I have this friend who used to own an s14 zenki and he sold it because he really wanted something faster, but low and behold he really doesn't like not being able to drift. The car he has is an 325is with a M3 conversion and he really wants a 240 again (s13 or s14 WITH SR ONLY). His car has every M3 piece on it (wheels, engine, transmission, guages, suspension etc...) so its done the right way. The car is a 5 speed with 225whp and it needs nothing. Trust me its a beast I have a stock KA and there is no way in hell that I could ever beat that car :fawk: . This car is a drivers car not a drifter it yerns for an apex. He is serious to trade so I will watch for posts. modifications include:euro hfm/3.5 in. intake/24lb injectors/aftermarket chip zimmermancross drilled rotorsbilstein shocks and h&r springs. location is Georgia, he has only had the car for 4 months, and never tried to sell it

DRFT
02-16-2004, 09:32 PM
wasn't he trying to sell it here before?

s0ldats
02-16-2004, 09:38 PM
why can't he drift in his 325? or is it because it's not jdm tyte yO DRIFTA

s14unimog
02-16-2004, 09:50 PM
BMW likes to grip, those cars just don't do it all that well. Trust me he can drift just fine

s0ldats
02-16-2004, 11:03 PM
haha i don't believe you.

that180guy
02-16-2004, 11:20 PM
its the gay independent rear susepesion...grips too damn wel...hahahaha :fawk:
but it is possible to drift them quite well

s0ldats
02-16-2004, 11:30 PM
i seriously don't get it. bmw is a grip machine while 240sx is what, tail happy? upgrade driver.

Heartwork
02-16-2004, 11:31 PM
BMW likes to grip, those cars just don't do it all that well. Trust me he can drift just fine

:wtf:
thats the biggest crock of shit i've heard.....

driver's drift the car, not the other way around....

DRFT
02-16-2004, 11:41 PM
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some bmws at a drift event

s14unimog
02-16-2004, 11:52 PM
:fawk: some how yall got off course the point is he wants to trade for an SR 240 so... who cares, so he doesn't like to drift his 325 its not made for that.

JKim0901
02-16-2004, 11:59 PM
sorry buddy but no car is MADE to drift, its just that the driver sets the car up for it and does it...

The last D1 i believe, there was a driving instructor drifting a Ford Crown Victoria.

Burmonster
02-17-2004, 12:07 AM
Ok I have this friend who used to own an s14 zenki and he sold it because he really wanted something faster, but low and behold he really doesn't like not being able to drift. The car he has is an 325is with a M3 conversion and he really wants a 240 again (s13 or s14 WITH SR ONLY). His car has every M3 piece on it (wheels, engine, transmission, guages, suspension etc...) so its done the right way. The car is a 5 speed with 225whp and it needs nothing. Trust me its a beast I have a stock KA and there is no way in hell that I could ever beat that car :fawk: . This car is a drivers car not a drifter it yerns for an apex. He is serious to trade so I will watch for posts. modifications include:euro hfm/3.5 in. intake/24lb injectors/aftermarket chip zimmermancross drilled rotorsbilstein shocks and h&r springs. location is Georgia, he has only had the car for 4 months, and never tried to sell it

We talking an E36 or and E46 3-series. If its an E36 m3 engine in the car it should have 240hp out of the 3.2L 6 and even more with the mods you listed. If its an E46 m3 engine in the car it would already have 333hp out of the 3.2L 6 and even more with the mods listed plus it would have a 6 speed transmission. Are you sure it just isnt the stock 184hp 325 6 in the car still.

Something does quite add up here :squint:

DRFT
02-17-2004, 02:02 AM
isnt e46 m3 8 cylinder?

matlock
02-17-2004, 02:23 AM
I almost got a 325 and I was going to learn/practice drifting with that instead of my 240, but sometimes I wish I really did get that car just because of the growing popularity of the 240 and the ammount of them you see all sauced up, but then when I sit in my 240 and drive it, and see some of the absolutly amazing ones on here; I remember why I bought it heh heh. Does your friend have any pictures of this car, etc. I am not interested and I do not have an SR anways, but I think it might help him in his quest for a buyer.

Nismo1182
02-17-2004, 02:25 AM
The new M5 is a V8. The upcoming M3 will have the same V8.

Your right, something doesnt add up. M3 motors are monsters and if you cant step out the rear then there something seriously wrong.

Cthulhu
02-17-2004, 05:51 AM
We talking an E36 or and E46 3-series. If its an E36 m3 engine in the car it should have 240hp out of the 3.2L 6 and even more with the mods you listed. If its an E46 m3 engine in the car it would already have 333hp out of the 3.2L 6 and even more with the mods listed plus it would have a 6 speed transmission. Are you sure it just isnt the stock 184hp 325 6 in the car still.

Something does quite add up here :squint:

I think it's unlikely that the car in question has an E46 M3 transplant, no matter what series the car itself is (e36/46). I havent frequented BMW forums in quite a while, but if nothing else, the cost of such a swap would be prohibitively expensive, even to BMW owners, to say nothing of the electronic complexity of the procedure itself. While I'm sure it is possible, I have never heard of this particular swap being done. By comparison, the S50/S52 (m3 motor) swap is, relatively speaking, rather popular. The motors are more easily available and much less expensive. Additionally, with the 325is, there is no obdII to worry about. 225whp is a little low, I think, for those mods, but not by a lot, and it would also depend on the year of the engine. Also, Burmonster, since you're throwing around all those facts and figures, the E36 M3 had a 3.0L 6 in 1995 (3.2L from 96, on) and I'm fairly sure the 325 had 189hp.

To the starter of this thread, it's fine for your friend to want a 240sx to drift, or whatever it is he's looking to do, but his reasoning should be because he wants one, not because he "can't" drift in a 325 (m3 mods or not) because it's not "built" for it. I think most people here can see right through that sort of reasoning, even if your friend can't.

PARAD0X
02-17-2004, 06:21 AM
hey guys, i know this said bmw guy too. he's got a 94 325is with a 96 m3 motor, plus mods listed above

s0ldats
02-17-2004, 09:19 AM
ok here's the thing, if he wants to trade his car, move this thread to the for sale or wanted forums.


some how yall got off course the point is he wants to trade for an SR 240 so... who cares, so he doesn't like to drift his 325 its not made for that.


and an s14 is MADE for drifting? you're awesome einstein. delete your thread.

Terminus2k
02-17-2004, 02:38 PM
alright guys..i had a friend post this for me..mainly since i havent been on these forums in a while..however i take offense to the fact that you are questioning my ability to drive..youve never seen me or met me. :mrmeph: the bmw does in fact like to drift. its just i dont do it as often..and i dont want to trade strictly for drifting. my car does in fact have the s50 motor in it..obd1. the engine is a 95 not a 96 like paradox has stated..i just miss my old 240 and was wondering if anyone would be interested in trading..the car is quite quick..and it does have 225 at the wheels..the stock engine has about 199 at the rear wheels..its an accurate number. i love this car..handles impeccible..and the insurance is still under a 94 325is..so its cheap. hope that clears up some of the confusion..
edit. i told him to post this in the for sale/wanted forum in the first place..

Muzzy
02-17-2004, 03:14 PM
damn...that red 3 series has a deliciously fat lip!!!

s13andy
02-17-2004, 03:44 PM
[QUOTE=Nismo1182]The new M5 is a V8. The upcoming M3 will have the same V8.

actualy the current M5 has a 500 hp V-8 but the NEW M5 is going to have a V-10 :hsdance:

Nismo1182
02-17-2004, 04:06 PM
Yup, I meant the current M5.

s0ldats
02-17-2004, 04:38 PM
isnt e46 m3 8 cylinder?

the next generation e56 will have an 8 cylinder but the current e46 is an i6.

TheSparo
02-17-2004, 07:03 PM
i live in TN and could be interested :)

citizen
02-17-2004, 08:18 PM
What my friend had to say about this, he drifts an e30 4 door 325i with blown suspension.
"what can i say...beemers are drift engineered. lol. they also make great track cars, and have nicer back seats then most imports ;-) lol
hajhahaa"
At least the e30 has no problem drifting. Its a great car for drift or grip and it will do both well when and where you command. The e30 is bombproof, has more power and better turning radius. And yes, its super comfortable. Oh and tires are cheaper. stock for stock e30 > s13

Terminus2k
02-17-2004, 08:33 PM
ahh yes my friend you are correct..the e30 in my opinion is a perfect track car..and the e36 is a little more creature comfort oriented..however it still does more than satisfactory on the track..and is a great drifting machine.. the main thing i dont like about the e36 as opposed to my s14 is the weight...it feels heavier..i guess thats where my friend got confused about it not being as good of a drifter.
basically..it was a feeler post that got a little out of control. sorry guys...and the e39 m5 iirc has 440 hp +/- a few. its a beautiful car

BoroFabulous
02-18-2004, 12:45 AM
Man ive never seen such ingnorant people! BMWs, Grip machines? hah! the e46 m3 does nothing but drift, damn thing understeers so much that drifting is all it can do. Shit you people should know better, Nissan learned everything it knows from copying BMW anyways. Ever heard of the datsun 510? well guess what? That car is mechanically, almost a carbon copy of the bmw 2002.

joho101
02-24-2004, 03:57 PM
Do you have any pics of the car? I might be interested

WheelSpin18
02-24-2004, 04:44 PM
225whp is believeable(sp?), depending on the year of the engine.The 95-96 m3 engine was a 3.0 liter I6 making about 220ish at the crank.So if he swapped in this engine(OBD-I) it sounds legit.If he has a 97-00 3.2 liter I6(OBD-II) its not 225 whp, because stock thats what the car dyno's at.With the mods he would have more obviously.Basically its gotta be a 95-96 m3 motor.Just curious though, why spend all that money converting the 325is? 95-96 m3's can be had for as little as 12k nowadays.

PARAD0X
02-24-2004, 08:51 PM
he paid 9k for a car that already had all stock m3 equipment except for front and rear fascia with 75k miles on the body
he got a damn fine deal

Doriftomodachi
02-24-2004, 11:56 PM
you can drift anything fr if you practice enough hehe

3rD GeAr
02-25-2004, 12:44 PM
Man ive never seen such ingnorant people! BMWs, Grip machines? hah! the e46 m3 does nothing but drift, damn thing understeers so much that drifting is all it can do. Shit you people should know better, Nissan learned everything it knows from copying BMW anyways. Ever heard of the datsun 510? well guess what? That car is mechanically, almost a carbon copy of the bmw 2002.

from my understanding the 510 was released before the 2002. There are a number of myths about this car that are untrue. For one the 510 is not based on the BMW 2002 nor was it designed by the famous Italian design house of Pininfarina. the 410 was though, and thats where some of the 510 looks come from. also the strength of the 510 was not styling; it was in the engineering. A key factor of the 510's success was the takeover of a failing firm, the Prince Motor Company. hope that clears some things up :blah: