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WhiteDouki
06-13-2012, 09:07 AM
doing a auto manual swap soon and wondering which clutch setup to go with. putting a gt35 turbo on after the swap, lookin a 250-300 hp. not looking to spend a shit ton thought.

WhiteDouki
06-14-2012, 08:18 AM
nobody has a personal preference on a clutch setup for a s14 kouki?

enkei2k
06-14-2012, 08:27 AM
I always thought that clutches were based on TQ not HP. There's a lot of reputable ones out there. Seaching is key...Exedy, ACT, Competition, OS Giken. But if you're not willing to spend a lot, I guess Spec is your answer, although I've heard some mixed reviews about them.

ShadowDrifter
06-15-2012, 04:16 AM
Depends on what you plan on doing with the car. If you just want a badass street car go with spec. Stock feel grabs pretty good. If you want something with more bite go ACT or Exedy. Stay away from comp clutches they are crap IMO. Like everyone said its all about you and how you drive. Take some time and look at what you will be doing and how much TQ you are gonna make and go from there.

fliprayzin240sx
06-15-2012, 06:30 PM
doing a auto manual swap soon and wondering which clutch setup to go with. putting a gt35 turbo on after the swap, lookin a 250-300 hp. not looking to spend a shit ton thought.

GT35 turbo? Shit will be barely spooling to put down 300hp. I made 500hp on it with an SR. Clutch I was using was an OS Giken TS2B.

WhiteDouki
06-18-2012, 01:55 PM
GT35 turbo? Shit will be barely spooling to put down 300hp. I made 500hp on it with an SR. Clutch I was using was an OS Giken TS2B.

my friend is running the same turbo on his car with almost the same setup i will be running and it runs like a champ

WhiteDouki
06-18-2012, 01:56 PM
i just bought a f1 extreme stage 4 clutch. hope its not shit.... anyone running this?

Sileighty_85
06-18-2012, 02:15 PM
why do ppl buy shit first then ask if its any good.

if you buy a performace clutch for less than $200 its gonna be a pile of shit

F1 Racing clutches - DO NOT BUY!!!!. - SR20 Community Forum - The Dash (http://www.sr20-forum.com/product-reviews/46987-f1-racing-clutches-do-not-buy.html)

jr_ss
06-18-2012, 04:05 PM
Because people are cheap Sileighty. They want good products at a cheap price, unfortunately that's not how it works. Send the clutch back along with the GT35 and buy products that are Quality, not knock-off shit.

RPS, Exedy, ORC, OS Giken, etc, the list goes on of good clutches. You'll hate your response and driveability with that turbo, get a GT2871r, supporting mods and call it a day.

future
06-18-2012, 04:18 PM
A 35r for 300? Why waste the turbo?

Okinawandrifter87
06-18-2012, 04:34 PM
A 35r for 300? Why waste the turbo?

Because he doesn't know what clutch to buy :rofl:

fliprayzin240sx
06-18-2012, 06:35 PM
why do ppl buy shit first then ask if its any good.

if you buy a performace clutch for less than $200 its gonna be a pile of shit

F1 Racing clutches - DO NOT BUY!!!!. - SR20 Community Forum - The Dash (http://www.sr20-forum.com/product-reviews/46987-f1-racing-clutches-do-not-buy.html)

Eh, he'll be alright, he's only shooting for 300. If he makes over that (which he will), that clutch will spit out its rivets out or the pressure plate will literally fall apart.

Sileighty_85
06-18-2012, 07:08 PM
Eh, he'll be alright, he's only shooting for 300. If he makes over that (which he will), that clutch will spit out its rivets out or the pressure plate will literally fall apart.

even still, That would scare the shit out of me if I were to drift that or operate it under High RPMs. If that thing grenaded around 6K RPM's id be worried for my legs unless i had a scatter shield.

I know it would destroy the bellhousing but not sure if it would make it past the tunnel but wouldnt wanna try to find out.

WhiteDouki
06-19-2012, 08:41 AM
why do ppl buy shit first then ask if its any good.

if you buy a performace clutch for less than $200 its gonna be a pile of shit

F1 Racing clutches - DO NOT BUY!!!!. - SR20 Community Forum - The Dash (http://www.sr20-forum.com/product-reviews/46987-f1-racing-clutches-do-not-buy.html)

so then whats the dollar amount you put on a clutch that makes it not a pile of shit?

WhiteDouki
06-19-2012, 08:46 AM
Because people are cheap Sileighty. They want good products at a cheap price, unfortunately that's not how it works. Send the clutch back along with the GT35 and buy products that are Quality, not knock-off shit.

RPS, Exedy, ORC, OS Giken, etc, the list goes on of good clutches. You'll hate your response and driveability with that turbo, get a GT2871r, supporting mods and call it a day.

whats wrong with a gt35 turbo? just not quality? i bought cxracing turbo kit(which i have a feeling someone is goin to hate on that too). im guessing there cheap and shity too?

WhiteDouki
06-19-2012, 08:48 AM
A 35r for 300? Why waste the turbo?

are they made for more than that?

SLiDe_WaYz
06-19-2012, 08:52 AM
whats wrong with a gt35 turbo? just not quality? i bought cxracing turbo kit(which i have a feeling someone is goin to hate on that too). im guessing there cheap and shity too?

LMFAO, not only did you buy one the shittiest Chinese clutches made, you wasted money on a Chinese turbo kit. Obviously your just buying shit based upon what you want. 1st off a GT35 a real one is rated at 400+ for 250-300 you should have kept the stock T25 and ran 12psi and yielded 250-280hp. A GT35 won't even begin to spool at the numbers your wanting all your going to get is lag and watch your car fall on its face.

You wasted money on that shitty clutch and that god awful "turbo kit" the only thing remotely of value in that "kit" is a intercooler and pipes and even then it's terrible quality and most of the time bad fitment.

WhiteDouki
06-19-2012, 09:09 AM
LMFAO, not only did you buy one the shittiest Chinese clutches made, you wasted money on a Chinese turbo kit. Obviously your just buying shit based upon what you want. 1st off a GT35 a real one is rated at 400+ for 250-300 you should have kept the stock T25 and ran 12psi and yielded 250-280hp. A GT35 won't even begin to spool at the numbers your wanting all your going to get is lag and watch your car fall on its face.

You wasted money on that shitty clutch and that god awful "turbo kit" the only thing remotely of value in that "kit" is a intercooler and pipes and even then it's terrible quality and most of the time bad fitment.

ok i said 300 bc i dont know what it will actually hold up to being a bone stock motor. im looking to put more down than that but i figured i would have to have supporting motor mods. which is why i have another ka sitting in the garage. (since were on the subject i guess someone can help me out on what to do to the motor) but thanks to all for telling me which clutch to buy now i will know for when this one goes to shit.

future
06-19-2012, 09:14 AM
It will make 400+

If you want 300go for something small like a t28. A 35r will make 500 with the right setup

WhiteDouki
06-19-2012, 09:17 AM
It will make 400+

If you want 300go for something small like a t28. A 35r will make 500 with the right setup

ok so ill go for 500 then. other than the clutch. what needs to be done to support 500hp

WhiteDouki
06-19-2012, 09:38 AM
everybody keeps bring up os giken.... from what i saw they are between 2000 and 3000... thats more than i paid for the car. people really run these?

SLiDe_WaYz
06-19-2012, 09:43 AM
everybody keeps bring up os giken.... from what i saw they are between 2000 and 3000... thats more than i paid for the car. people really run these?

Yes... Do you have any idea what your doing.... Any at all? Why don't you read build threads on KAT.org? Or even on here to figure out wtf you are doing. Obviously you are clueless.

enkei2k
06-19-2012, 09:51 AM
everybody keeps bring up os giken.... from what i saw they are between 2000 and 3000... thats more than i paid for the car. people really run these?

:picardfp: You're doing it wrong. And yes, people actually run these because they're proven to work and not blow up after 20 miles.

OS Giken STR Clutch for Nissan SR20DET Silvia (http://www.240sxmotoring.com/osgistrclfor.html)

s13 drifta
06-19-2012, 10:01 AM
I think the title of this thread should be "Which will fail first, my ebay clutch or turbo kit?" It's funny how kids ask which parts are good, then just go buy ebay junk.

jr_ss
06-19-2012, 10:30 AM
whats wrong with a gt35 turbo? just not quality? i bought cxracing turbo kit(which i have a feeling someone is goin to hate on that too). im guessing there cheap and shity too?

If it is infact a real Garrett GT35r, it is quality. I said sell it because that turbo is capable of more than 550hp. You can't do that on a stock bottomend, it has been done, but they don't last long and based on this post, you don't have the knowledge or capability to reach that power level yet.

Yes, people run 2-3000 dollar clutches. I have a 2k clutch behind my motor

In short, buy a turbo closer to 300hp level goal. Sell the clutch or return to vendor and get a real one.

WhiteDouki
06-19-2012, 10:36 AM
Yes... Do you have any idea what your doing.... Any at all? Why don't you read build threads on KAT.org? Or even on here to figure out wtf you are doing. Obviously you are clueless.

your right i dont know what im doing. you want to help me out?

WhiteDouki
06-19-2012, 10:37 AM
I think the title of this thread should be "Which will fail first, my ebay clutch or turbo kit?" It's funny how kids ask which parts are good, then just go buy ebay junk.

someone on here listed off clutches to buy and 2 of the name brands are on ebay

WhiteDouki
06-19-2012, 10:39 AM
I think the title of this thread should be "Which will fail first, my ebay clutch or turbo kit?" It's funny how kids ask which parts are good, then just go buy ebay junk.

and how am i considered a kid just because im new to the 240 scene? which is why im on here to try and figure it out

Phlip
06-19-2012, 10:44 AM
You are not reading peoples responses, are you?

If not, you're SURELY not comprehending them.

You have entirely too much turbo for what you want to do with it. Sell the turbo, buy a smaller one like a T25 or T28 (both have been suggested). With the money you have left over, buy a clutch with better reviews than the one you have.
If that is not clear enough for you to understand, I strongly suggest you either sit down one weekend, search and read to try and grasp what you have gotten yourself into or just sell your whole car before it ruins your life.

Sileighty_85
06-19-2012, 12:55 PM
ok i said 300 bc i dont know what it will actually hold up to being a bone stock motor.

Stop right there.... Seriously your expecting a 20 year old bone stock motor to hold up to over 300hp?

ppl will say yeah man my KA is running over 300, but it will be short lived depending on how hard they boost it. The pistons will eventually melt

EDIT: did'nt see this until now

so then whats the dollar amount you put on a clutch that makes it not a pile of shit?

I have what you refer to as the Outrageously expensive baller clutch : Twin Plate OS Giken, Unfortunatly they dont make one for KA's. Not really familiar with KA brand clutches. but def wont buy something cheap that rotates up to 7,000 RPM's next to my feet

you need a proven quality clutch. this is where searching come into play.

s13 drifta
06-19-2012, 02:41 PM
and how am i considered a kid just because im new to the 240 scene? which is why im on here to try and figure it out

It sounds like you are new to cars all together, which means you are most likely a kid. You bought a 240sx, want to bolt on cheap parts, and make the car fast. Sorry to burst your bubble, but fast and cheap don't go together. If you want to do something right use the search button and find the answers to your questions before you buy junk.

Nicelyphe
06-19-2012, 02:52 PM
How's that one saying go?

Cheap - Fast - Reliable

You can only choose two.

Fast + Reliable = Not Cheap
Cheap + Fast = Not Reliable

Someone correct me on that phrase if that's wrong haha.

But I did message you OP on some insight on a good clutch.

fliprayzin240sx
06-19-2012, 07:31 PM
So GT35R on a stock bottom end KA?!?! I'm guessing you're running stock injectors too. If you are, well, you wont blow the turbo or the clutch first.

Rut Ro
06-21-2012, 05:01 AM
You need to do a lot of homework before continuing on this journey. Being on a car forum, you need thick skin. Really thick skin. We are willing to help, but when questions come across as being silly, then that's where the bashing comes in.

slowjvms
06-21-2012, 10:17 PM
I've had experience with exedy stage 2 3 puck sprung felt very nice and easy to drive should hold 250-300 NP

Also act 6 puck sprung seems be pretty decent

Allwayssideways
06-28-2012, 01:03 PM
Get an act that's what I got and I love it I would buy a nissan throw out bearing cas the throw out bearing that came with mine squeeks

Bentleyness
06-28-2012, 03:23 PM
how about the white bunny clutch?
rb flywheel/250z PP and disk, i plan on doing this but still seaching a local rb flywheel

Danial
07-11-2012, 09:33 AM
how about the white bunny clutch?
rb flywheel/250z PP and disk, i plan on doing this but still seaching a local rb flywheel

I second this, you can usually get these setups pretty cheap when its all said and done

240sx white bunny clutch setup : 240sx General Discussion (http://forums.nicoclub.com/240sx-white-bunny-clutch-setup-t227129.html)

People say they hold like 350 crank i believe. The clamping area is increased greatly, I forget how much I measured it to be tho

BossHogg
07-18-2012, 06:58 PM
Stop right there.... Seriously your expecting a 20 year old bone stock motor to hold up to over 300hp?

ppl will say yeah man my KA is running over 300, but it will be short lived depending on how hard they boost it. The pistons will eventually melt

EDIT: did'nt see this until now



I have what you refer to as the Outrageously expensive baller clutch : Twin Plate OS Giken, Unfortunatly they dont make one for KA's. Not really familiar with KA brand clutches. but def wont buy something cheap that rotates up to 7,000 RPM's next to my feet

you need a proven quality clutch. this is where searching come into play.

Don't know where you get info from. But you can reliably run 300 hp on a stock KA. IF things check out ok before hand (compression/leak down) AND you actually tune your shit well (no piggy back BS). It is situational. But judging by how this thread has gone, the OP will be blowing shit up left and right. Also OS Giken clutch's will fit KA24DE.......just look at their application charts.