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idunit
01-06-2002, 08:58 AM
I was looking under my hood the other day and if I relocate the battery (i'm doing this regaurdless) there seems to be plenty of room for a chevy 350 under there. The steering linkage seems workable and with rearwheel drive I could just have a new driveshaft made. The only other thing I see is possible moddifying the transmission hump.
HaloZ
01-06-2002, 10:35 AM
what not a nissan v8?
transient
01-06-2002, 11:00 AM
Nissan makes v8's?
AceInHole
01-06-2002, 11:12 AM
</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote </td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">Quote: from transient on 11<img src="http://www.zilvia.net/f/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/wow.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=':0'>0 am on Jan. 6, 2002
Nissan makes v8's?</td></tr></table><span id='postcolor'>
350bhp QR45DE?? (i think it's a QR?? or is it a VQ... whatever, it's the Q45 engine)
ca18guy
01-06-2002, 11:55 AM
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</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote </td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">Quote: from transient on 11<img src="http://www.zilvia.net/f/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/wow.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=':0'>0 am on Jan. 6, 2002
Nissan makes v8's?</td></tr></table><span id='postcolor'>
350bhp QR45DE?? (i think it's a QR?? or is it a VQ... whatever, it's the Q45 engine)</td></tr></table><span id='postcolor'>
The earlier Q45 engines would be ALOT cheaper, there has been some talk over at HybridZ.org about doing the Infinity swap. Anyway to answer this guy's question, yes I think it would fit, I have heard of one guy talk about it, why don't you be the "pioneer" in slapping V8's in 240SX's. If it go's well i'll drop my plans of a V8 240Z and try out a 240SX <img src="http://www.zilvia.net/f/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/smile.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=':)'>
drift freaq
01-06-2002, 02:26 PM
well Nissan does make V8's and they made an aluminum one for the President limo back in the 80's called the Y44. yop 4400cc displacement. I was actually working on installing one in a 240z back in the late 80's . No parts availible here in the states though and imported stuff was going to be expensive . got the engine dropped it in the car but life took over and the project was shelved never to be resurrected . Oh well <img src="http://www.zilvia.net/f/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/sad.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=':('> different chapter in my life not going to worry about it.
Now with the Q45 engine out there it would be a different thing . times change life goes on.
peaceout
FastNissan
01-06-2002, 02:48 PM
<a href="http://www.webnetics.com/rsr" target='_blank'>http://www.webnetics.com/rsr</a>
Here is a 240 with an LT1.
crazycuban
01-06-2002, 07:28 PM
yeah, why do a nissan v8? an american v8 is much cheaper, better, and has many more parts for it. chevy 350?
transient
01-06-2002, 07:36 PM
</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote </td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">Quote: from FastNissan on 4:48 pm on Jan. 6, 2002
<a href="http://www.webnetics.com/rsr" target='_blank'>http://www.webnetics.com/rsr</a>
Here is a 240 with an LT1.
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I'm sorry, but that is quite disgusting...
crazycuban
01-06-2002, 07:43 PM
maybe the car is disgusting (that nasty spoiler and the racing stripes), but ####, a 350 in a 240sx? thats nuts...u could make that crazy fast.
DragonReborn214
01-06-2002, 07:51 PM
I would go with a LS1. People have put them in RX-7s.
crazycuban
01-06-2002, 07:51 PM
oops, LT1 in a 240sx...even better...
crazycuban
01-06-2002, 07:54 PM
oops...i was correcting my earlier post when i was talking about the lt1 240sx, but said a 350 240sx...but i really have no idea whether the lt1 or ls1 is better..
idunit
01-06-2002, 08:16 PM
They don't show any pics under the hood... Anyway, yeah I was thinking just a chevy V-8. 4 bolt main, built really good, possible with a supercharger and or NOS. The price would be very comprable to or even lower than building my 4 cylinder. And besides, how many people have a v-8 powered import...
ca18guy
01-06-2002, 08:22 PM
</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote </td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">Quote: from idunit on 8:16 pm on Jan. 6, 2002
And besides, how many people have a v-8 powered import...</td></tr></table><span id='postcolor'>
www.hybridZ.org site all about V8 powered Z's :shocked: If your serious, run your idea's buy the people on that site, they now there stuff and are more then welcome to other makes of cars.
(Edited by ca18guy at 8:26 pm on Jan. 6, 2002)
White240sx
01-06-2002, 09:10 PM
V8 swap:
Nissan V8: your stuck with an auto trans unless there is a manual box somewhere that will bolt up to it.
Ford vs. Chevy V8: The distributor is located on the back of the Chevy motors, so installation space constraints may not allow it to be there (enter the Ford V8, which has it on the front).
I doubt the 240sx is going to be fun to try and get a V8 into, the VG is said to be a huge pain by those that are in the process of putting it in and it's smaller than a V8. The Z car is more of a V8 conversion car because it accepts the V8 without major modification to structural members or the suspension.
Ohh BTW, it probably would be better to go with a carburetor vs. screwing around with wiring and buying/programming $2000 EFI control hardware.
sspikey
01-06-2002, 09:14 PM
yich i saw the video just sounds weird.
LanceS13
01-06-2002, 10:03 PM
about that 240 w/ the 350 looking disgusting...
who cares? It's a race car. It has one priority...be fast. And from the vid, it looks fairly quick.
drift freaq
01-06-2002, 11:59 PM
white240sx writes...
Nissan V8: your stuck with an auto trans unless there is a manual box somewhere that will bolt up to it.
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yup you are correct sir;) In answer to someone elses question why Nissan V8 well because it was an aluminum engine . Back in the 80's Aluminum american V8's were expensive. Much more than a Y44. Ok here I go down a long abandon road.
Yes I will most likely build another 240Z but I am thinking RB25 In it.
twofortysx
01-07-2002, 12:13 AM
Unless you're building this car to only drag, wouldn't the added weight of a v8 engine severely damage the 240's handling abilities? I would think that the extra weight would throw off the near 50/50 weight distribution in the 240.
Any thoughts?
NOSfEDs12vh45dett
01-07-2002, 03:13 AM
Try the VH45DE(365hp) or the VH41DE(310hp), both are powerful nissan engine, as it is I will be putting one in a S12, so I guess it should fit. Or if your ready for some insane horse power VQH35DETT out of the R390, 540hp standard, say goodbye to your licence. As for the Gearbox try a Turbo Z32 300zx 5 speed, or if draging try the weaker autobox, but if money is not issue go for a comp box, thats what I'm doing. Laterius.
mistert
01-07-2002, 03:32 AM
well, yeah, california specials are pretty popular. a california special is a domestic V8 or V6 in an older Z car, like a 240z, 260z, or 280zx or what not. kits are available with custom mounts and cross members, and they're relatively cheap (cheaper than an sr swap, anyways). you can put anything from a 302 or a 327 or 350 to a big block 502, or the monster bruiser, the 623 stroker. also, people put rb26dett into them. i saw one, a 260z with a totally stock rb26dett that runs very low 11's, this is completely unmodified engine, just dropped into the car.
anyways, on a side note, i do believe that they are called california special because they're old enough to be exempt from emissions laws now. go to <a href="http://www.hybridz.org" target='_blank'>http://www.hybridz.org</a> for more info (im pretty sure someone already posted this link)
(Edited by mistert at 4:33 am on Jan. 7, 2002)
ca18guy
01-07-2002, 08:24 AM
</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote </td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">Quote: from mistert on 3:32 am on Jan. 7, 2002
well, yeah, california specials are pretty popular. a california special is a domestic V8 or V6 in an older Z car, like a 240z, 260z, or 280zx or what not. kits are available with custom mounts and cross members, and they're relatively cheap (cheaper than an sr swap, anyways). you can put anything from a 302 or a 327 or 350 to a big block 502, or the monster bruiser, the 623 stroker. also, people put rb26dett into them. i saw one, a 260z with a totally stock rb26dett that runs very low 11's, this is completely unmodified engine, just dropped into the car.
anyways, on a side note, i do believe that they are called california special because they're old enough to be exempt from emissions laws now. go to <a href="http://www.hybridz.org" target='_blank'>http://www.hybridz.org</a> for more info (im pretty sure someone already posted this link)
(Edited by mistert at 4:33 am on Jan. 7, 2002)
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Your the first person I have ever heard call it a "california special" no offense to you but it sound's so gay. About the RB26 in the 240Z. If it's the guy i'm thinking about, it's not stock he has it slightly tuned (slightly tuned still gives him about 400 HP)
White240sx
01-07-2002, 08:36 PM
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Yes I will most likely build another 240Z but I am thinking RB25 In it.
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Go for the turboless RB25 (I’m a DCOE style multi-throttle fan);) Plus the sound that will make at 8000rpm will draw the attention of everyone in a 5-block radius.:biggrin:
Something vintage about a strait 6 in a Z car, it just belongs...
FastNissan
01-07-2002, 11:55 PM
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oops...i was correcting my earlier post when i was talking about the lt1 240sx, but said a 350 240sx...but i really have no idea whether the lt1 or ls1 is better..
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The LS1 is better but is going to cost a lot more, it is what is in the new Vettes(except Z06) and the Camaro SS. The LT1 would be a lot cheaper, it was used in C4 Vettes(later versions the early version had L98.)
crazycuban
01-08-2002, 07:50 AM
yeah, ca18guy is right if you're talking about the guy in anchorage...400 horse...
uuninja
01-08-2002, 08:30 AM
You all wouldn't be talking about Darius's Supercharged LT1 in a 280z? For those that haven't seen the clips check them out <a href="http://taner.equinix.com/darius/
Oh" target="_blank">http://taner.equinix.com/darius/
Oh</a> and Bryan how is the swap comming? Did you call me last night? I saw your number on my phone when I woke up this morning.
crazycuban
01-08-2002, 09:24 AM
yeah, i called u to ask if u wanted my old ka24de (im assuming u dont, but i gotta get it out of my driveway), and to see how the turbo was coming and offer my help...
we have the engine and tranny all mounted up, the bumper's off, and i'm working on the downpipe, driveshaft and exhaust (another trip to nissan for lost bolts...)
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