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JdmDrift4Food
06-02-2012, 01:28 AM
Anyone have any experience with the Loggerhead Wrenches?
loggerheadtools, Home of the Bionic Wrench (http://loggerheadtools.com/)
Seems like a cool concept, and would be awesome to only have to use 1 wrench instead of switching through a bunch. I'm really skeptical about products I see on tv though. Most are scams and completely useless. Just wondering how well it works and if it is able to handle the jobs I will throw at it, along with the tight spaces that come with them! Any input would help, thanks! (:

Razi
06-02-2012, 01:33 AM
Doesn't look like it ratchets, or be useful in tight spaces.

blacksmith
06-02-2012, 01:46 AM
Looks like it would be good if you worked at jiffy lube so you wouldn't have to change wrenches constantly for different car models for transmission and motor oil but other than that, it looks big and awkward to really be useful on a motor or tight areas of suspension.

JdmDrift4Food
06-02-2012, 01:46 AM
It almost acts as a ratchet. You just have to release the grip on the nut, you dont have to take it off the nut like a regular wrench. But thats not the problem, I just thought it would be nice to use a wrench for multiple sized nuts, so no digging through the tool box. Im very unorganized.. :rolleyes:

And ya.. Thats what I figured by glancing at it, but you never know. Was hoping someone had experience with one. I am mostly working in tight areas such as motor/tranny/suspension/interior.. Always have a project! May just have to start being a little more organized haha

ixfxi
06-02-2012, 11:47 AM
theres no replacement for a good set of tools. not one tool, a set of tools. understand?

ratchet set
socket set
wrench set
flare wrench set

buying that tool is like saying you want to rebuild your car with vice grips

JdmDrift4Food
06-02-2012, 12:06 PM
Real men build cars from the ground up with only a set of vice grips.... (:
But in all seriousness, you can't tell me anything if you have never used it.

Telling me that tool is useless if you have never used it is like saying mountain dew is ewwwwwwey because you never tried it.

Razi
06-02-2012, 12:22 PM
It isn't even that hard to carry the correct wrenches over to the car.
Once you've worked on the car a couple of times, you'll know what sizes you'll need for the project.

The lack of a ratcheting mechanism would annoy me, and the large head will probably limit where it can actually fit and be used.

Feel free to buy it and review it though.

JdmDrift4Food
06-02-2012, 12:29 PM
I have "worked on the car a couple times" lol I am on my 6th 240, all of which I have put many hours into. I buy shitty cars and resell them after I put work into them. Its not that I dont know what sizes I need, Im just tired of having my tools scattered all over the place. I was hoping someone has tried this, and would let me know. Although you are probably right, It doesnt look like it would fit on many places in the engine bay. I need a nice tool box lol

zeebrah
06-02-2012, 12:58 PM
If you're not even going to listen to what people say and keep inputting what you want then why did you even ask?
And I have used one if these before and was not a fan. Especially compared to regular tools it's just too much of a head ache. Assuming you're working on your car from the ground it's a pain in the asssssss. My buddies dad bought it for him for Christmas and guanrteed it's been sitting since. And never once have we been like "oh you know whattool would be great for this job...the bionic wrench" haha.
Imo: not worth the investment. Use money towards something else

roboticnissan
06-02-2012, 01:03 PM
theres no replacement for a good set of tools. not one tool, a set of tools. understand?

ratchet set
socket set
wrench set
flare wrench set

buying that tool is like saying you want to rebuild your car with vice grips


This man definitely. Buying nice tools and the right tools for the job is the way togo man.
i recommend a nice set of combo wrenchs, long ones. And a set of ratcheting wrenches.
And a basic tool set.

You say youre not organized, GET ORGANIZED, i guarantee my advice is way more valuable than any "multi" tool out there

JdmDrift4Food
06-02-2012, 01:14 PM
Thanks for the input zeebrah, thats what I was looking for. I do need to invest in a set of ratcheting wrenches. And as stated, need a nice toolbox to get my shit organized. Figured this tool was too good to be true haha, thanks!

KendallH
06-02-2012, 01:17 PM
This looks like something from one of those infomertials you see at 4AM. Can I double my order and just pay additional shipping and handling?

imnatelol
06-02-2012, 01:19 PM
Let's put it this way, if you're too lazy to use multiple wrenches, I wouldn't advise you touch a car

JdmDrift4Food
06-02-2012, 01:27 PM
Its not about being lazy, but thank you. Its that I dont own a big enough tool box, so most of my tools are laying around/in my cars. I have a small craftsman toolbox. Like 2 feet tall by 2 feet wide, and only has 5 drawers.

zeebrah
06-02-2012, 02:35 PM
Best investment I ever made was buyin the craftsman *I think* 250 piece set. Basically whatever one comes with it's own tool box and has slots and markings for each tool...
Ask a sears employee when the next sale is and how much that item will be. (a buddy works there so he looked it up) and u can get it for nearly half off if the sale/timing is right.
I used to be like u just threw my shit everywhere but I made it habit to pit refuting back after I used...and since it comes with premade slots and says the siZes it makes everything a million times easier and just becomes habit.
Oh and as far as ratcheting wrenches I own those too biut I think if it came down to it I wouldn't make that purchase again. They're not snapped the same and personally I don't like them and hardly ever use them. I mean they're cool when u do but idk if worth the money. Then again idk your budget...

Mishkin_707
06-02-2012, 02:35 PM
Well, invest in a bigger toolbox, sears always has good sales on tools and toolboxes, this thing sucks, it would only be good to break the glass if you lock yourself out of a car....lol

zeebrah
06-02-2012, 02:37 PM
FUck you iPhone auto correct I look illiterate ^^

JdmDrift4Food
06-02-2012, 03:01 PM
Lol good way to look at it mishkin! And thanks for the opinions guys. I will check into the craftsman sets at sears. Almost all of my tools are craftsman anyways, I love the lifetime warranty from sears (: As far as ratcheting wrenches, I love em. My friend has some and if there is a tight spot, they come in handy so you dont have to keep taking it off the bolt or nut.

Razi
06-02-2012, 03:26 PM
I need a nice tool box lol
I just use an old file cabinet we had. Hahaha

JdmDrift4Food
06-02-2012, 03:33 PM
Lol my dad uses a home made wood tool cabinet, sooo ghetto. File cabine isnt a bad idea, even though a tool box wouldnt be too much moolah. Just throw on some tape and marker on whats in the drawers! :bigok:

imnatelol
06-02-2012, 03:35 PM
Harbor freight has decent boxes for cheap. If I didn't use tools for my profession, that's what I would be buying. Lol but of course I'm a slave to the snap on, Mac, and matco trucks.

JdmDrift4Food
06-02-2012, 03:39 PM
I wish I had money to throw towards snap-on, mac, or matco. Legit tools! I have no problem using craftsman from sears though, Ive only broke 2 ratchets and I returned them and got new ones. Maybe one day I will be a true mechanic pimp and buy a whole snap-on tool set :rolleyes:

blacktop2nr
06-02-2012, 03:42 PM
there is no such thing as a good universal tool. seems like a good way to strip nuts and bolts.

blacktop2nr
06-02-2012, 04:03 PM
I use my tools every day, spend money on a couple of good ratchets and ratcheting box end wrenches. you really dont need to spend money on expensive tools if youre not in the shop everyday turning wrenches. If youre going to spend good money on tools avoid matco or mac the quality is not there for the price. Stick with snap-on, worth the money, just dont go crazy with it. hope the advice helps. Oh almost forgot look at the blue point ratcheting box end wrenches, still made by snap-on just half the price of the snap-on set. the set comes with 9-19mm had my set for 9 years and counting.

JdmDrift4Food
06-02-2012, 04:16 PM
Thanks! I'll check into them.

imnatelol
06-02-2012, 04:45 PM
I use my tools every day, spend money on a couple of good ratchets and ratcheting box end wrenches. you really dont need to spend money on expensive tools if youre not in the shop everyday turning wrenches. If youre going to spend good money on tools avoid matco or mac the quality is not there for the price. Stick with snap-on, worth the money, just dont go crazy with it. hope the advice helps. Oh almost forgot look at the blue point ratcheting box end wrenches, still made by snap-on just half the price of the snap-on set. the set comes with 9-19mm had my set for 9 years and counting.

NOT made by snap on, nothing with the blue point logo is made by snap on. Just rebranded shit that they sell. Still good stuff though. And about the inferior quality of Mac and matco, I disagree with the matco part. I mean I try to be as unbiased as I can when it comes to brand names and tools but damn man alot of the matco stuff just blows snap on out of the water. For example I own a few matco 88 tooth ratchets, snap on only makes 80 tooth. The ratcheting action feels so much better. I've had both snap on and matco 1/4 drive electric impact wrenches, the matco one is FAR superior to the snap on. But don't think I'm a matco fanboi, I have things that I like better in the snap on variety but it's very unfair to say that matco quality is inferior to snap on. And Mac, well that shit just looks cheap haha.

S14DB
06-02-2012, 06:12 PM
As far as the OP. Anytime you see laminate steel tools they are junk. Muli-plates riveted together like a cheap masterlock.

Harbor freight has decent boxes for cheap. If I didn't use tools for my profession, that's what I would be buying. Lol but of course I'm a slave to the snap on, Mac, and matco trucks.
I have gotten better tools at HF than I have gotten name brand. If it doesn't say "Made in USA" The HF stuff is usually better.
Craftsman you have to get the Made in USA to get the warranty.
Cobalt and Husky were made in the USA till Lowes and Home Despot bought them out for their house brands. Now made in Taiwan and China. Cost 2-4x as much as HF and are less quality.
The trucks now have off brands on them. At first I was like what is crap the driver is trying to sneak on his truck. Then I looked on the Snap-on website and it was there too. Still love their name brand "made in usa" stuff.

word sux
06-02-2012, 06:22 PM
As far as the OP. Anytime you see laminate steel tools they are junk. Muli-plates riveted together like a cheap masterlock.


I have gotten better tools at HF than I have gotten name brand. If it doesn't say "Made in USA" The HF stuff is usually better.
Craftsman you have to get the Made in USA to get the warranty.
Cobalt and Husky were made in the USA till Lowes and Home Despot bought them out for their house brands. Now made in Taiwan and China. Cost 2-4x as much as HF and are less quality.
The trucks now have off brands on them. At first I was like what is crap the driver is trying to sneak on his truck. Then I looked on the Snap-on website and it was there too. Still love their name brand "made in usa" stuff.


I agree as a tech when I look at that tool its just screams CHEAP JUNK! hf is junk some of it works most of it does not, if you buy something from their don't plan on using it more then once. I don't buy snap-on anymore since they try to fuck you every chance they get... snap on your strap on and prepare to get fucked!


on brand that I have been using allot and loving is sunex.

word sux
06-02-2012, 07:13 PM
NOT made by snap on, nothing with the blue point logo is made by snap on. Just rebranded shit that they sell. Still good stuff though. And about the inferior quality of Mac and matco, I disagree with the matco part. I mean I try to be as unbiased as I can when it comes to brand names and tools but damn man alot of the matco stuff just blows snap on out of the water. For example I own a few matco 88 tooth ratchets, snap on only makes 80 tooth. The ratcheting action feels so much better. I've had both snap on and matco 1/4 drive electric impact wrenches, the matco one is FAR superior to the snap on. But don't think I'm a matco fanboi, I have things that I like better in the snap on variety but it's very unfair to say that matco quality is inferior to snap on. And Mac, well that shit just looks cheap haha.


most snap on stuff is not made by snap on...

I like how they rebrand their welders then sell them for x2 the price... snap on is just like how most brands have become overpriced junk with a designer name slapped on.

JdmDrift4Food
06-02-2012, 08:31 PM
Sunex tools huh? Never heard of them. May have to check into them. Although, like I said, I have trusted craftsman and sears is awesome about the lifetime warranty thing.

DS562
06-03-2012, 01:30 AM
the only craftsman thats failed on me is my 3/8 drive ratchet. but that was more my fault for not using the breaker bar....idk man if it works, it works. and thats all you can ask of a hand tool. HOWEVER, i have a Matco metric tap&die set thats outta this world. seriously the handiest ser of tools i've ever owned.

BOROSUN
06-03-2012, 03:54 AM
it seems like a smart design except for tight areas because you need to grip squeeze to lock on the nut/bolt. if there's a stuck bolt on a large surface like a wall, you can't grip the handle. unless its petruding enough you can squeeze your hands to grip properly.

it works but its very limited.

now, if was design was with a grip lock like locking pliers/wrenches. it would be 100x better.
if it was designed like a ratchet with a grip lock, it would be money!

JdmDrift4Food
06-03-2012, 12:31 PM
Ya I have came to the conclusion that it isnt a good tool for auto mechanics. It seems like a decent tool if you are just working with nuts and bolts out in the open, but not in tight areas like engine bay or under car. I just bought a set of craftsman ratcheting wrenches instead.

ixfxi
06-03-2012, 02:10 PM
Real men build cars from the ground up with only a set of vice grips.... (:
But in all seriousness, you can't tell me anything if you have never used it.

Telling me that tool is useless if you have never used it is like saying mountain dew is ewwwwwwey because you never tried it.

mountain dew sucks - and i've tried it. even before i tried it, it still sucks. that tool sucks, why? not because i havent used it, because it cannot replace the MOST common tool: the wrench

notice the key word, wrench. as in wrench on your car. as in socket wrench, deep socket wrench, flare wrench, box wrench, open ended wrench. notice how no-where do you see the need for BIONIC wrench. the only good thing about bionic, is bionic commando... the original. the remake is OK too.


I have "worked on the car a couple times" lol I am on my 6th 240, all of which I have put many hours into. I buy shitty cars and resell them after I put work into them. Its not that I dont know what sizes I need, Im just tired of having my tools scattered all over the place. I was hoping someone has tried this, and would let me know. Although you are probably right, It doesnt look like it would fit on many places in the engine bay. I need a nice tool box lol

6 240's, and i can bet that none of which are worth a damn. you dont rebuild cars with random tools, and if you dont know the use for a proper tool than chances are, your cars and/or builds are no-where near broadfield or old_s13 status. am i assuming and being a jerk? most definitely. i guess the "ILLEST" sticker brings that out in me. trendy fuck-tards.


Ya I have came to the conclusion that it isnt a good tool for auto mechanics. It seems like a decent tool if you are just working with nuts and bolts out in the open, but not in tight areas like engine bay or under car. I just bought a set of craftsman ratcheting wrenches instead.

congratulations. you've come to a conclusion that even in my most entry-level years of car modding, the first thing i purchased was a craftsman METRIC tool set.

JdmDrift4Food
06-03-2012, 03:03 PM
I bought all of my 240's for under $1000 bucks, and resold them for between $3000-$5000 using standard tools and money for parts. Which is worth a damn to me. Sorry Im not trying to impress you. But I have rebuilt 3 engines by myself, 2 ka's and an s14 sr, which is pretty decent for me only being 20. I asked a simple question, and if its too hard for you to answer that you have to come in here and act like your the baddest mother fucker on the web, please dont respond. You're how old? It's obvious who's more mature here. Thank you for your time.

ixfxi
06-03-2012, 03:41 PM
I bought all of my 240's for under $1000 bucks, and resold them for between $3000-$5000 using standard tools and money for parts. Which is worth a damn to me. Sorry Im not trying to impress you. But I have rebuilt 3 engines by myself, 2 ka's and an s14 sr, which is pretty decent for me only being 20. I asked a simple question, and if its too hard for you to answer that you have to come in here and act like your the baddest mother fucker on the web, please dont respond. You're how old? It's obvious who's more mature here. Thank you for your time.

how the fuck do you rebuild 3 engines with no tools?

i mean seriously, am i the only one whos just losing faith in humanity these days? lets go online and make a thread about a gimmick tool. fuck buying it and trying it, lets go to the people and see what they have to say. forget buying a quality tool set, lets create threads about the shit. nowadays, people find the stupidest ways to waste bandwidth... lets make a youtube video and post that shit online. lets blog about our day to day activities, taking a shit... follow me on twitter.

honestly, it gets to the point where i wonder if people just use their fucking brains.

bionic... wrench. you can use it for your critical items:
- head bolts/studs
- exhaust manifold nuts
- crank damper pulley bolt
- axle bolt!!!!!

THE BIONIC WRENCH DOES IT ALL!!!!!!


fucking christ. if you've worked on a fucking car, and turned a wrench... you'de automatically know that its a joke.

ILLEST YO. FATLACE, YO. HELLA...FUCKING...FLUSH, y0.

ima'fuckin retard, y0.


if you're 20, please ask the mods to sticky this thread. that way in 10 years you can come back and realize how stupid you are for even making this useless thread.

JdmDrift4Food
06-03-2012, 04:01 PM
I never once said I didnt have tools. I bought a 200 piece craftsman set years ago. And along the years I have bought multiple tools along the way that I needed (Snap-On Torque wrench, craftsman pliers, screwdrivers, rubber mallet, valve gauges, etc.) My buddy owns a shop and he did all the machine work on the motors. Please re-read my op. I simply asked if the tool worked. Not that I needed a single tool because Im broke and cant afford anything else, and have no tools. Thank you for your interest though, you seem very interested in my well-being. And please stop making yourself look like an idiot, it's embarrassing. Thanks. Have a great day.

imnatelol
06-03-2012, 05:04 PM
I never once said I didnt have tools. I bought a 200 piece craftsman set years ago. And along the years I have bought multiple tools along the way that I needed (Snap-On Torque wrench, craftsman pliers, screwdrivers, rubber mallet, valve gauges, etc.) My buddy owns a shop and he did all the machine work on the motors. Please re-read my op. I simply asked if the tool worked. Not that I needed a single tool because Im broke and cant afford anything else, and have no tools. Thank you for your interest though, you seem very interested in my well-being. And please stop making yourself look like an idiot, it's embarrassing. Thanks. Have a great day.

What a baller!!

hulkster_s13
06-03-2012, 05:12 PM
I'll stick to my open ends and socket sets. One of my friends buys all those all-in-one gimmick tools and they always break or can't fit in tight spots

JdmDrift4Food
06-03-2012, 05:15 PM
^^Cant sense if thats sarcasm or not haha... Im very happy with the tools I have. They get the job done! I'm by no means a professional auto mechanic nor am I ase certified. But I do alot of work on cars every day and havent had any problems with friend's cars I have worked on nor my own.

Agreed Hulkster. Looks good at glance but when it comes down to it, I bet it comes no where close to basic wrenches.

JdmDrift4Food
06-03-2012, 09:51 PM
It is rated 4.08 out of 5 by 25 reviewers on sears.com. And on that review page, a reviewer specifically states that the tool isnt good for working on cars, but good for around the house. Thats what I was looking for. Loggerhead Tools 8 in. Bionic Wrench Reviews - MySears Community (http://www.mysears.com/Loggerhead-Tools-8-in-Bionic-Wrench-reviews)
Sticking with my tools.
/ Thread.

ixfxi
06-04-2012, 10:45 AM
I never once said I didnt have tools. I bought a 200 piece craftsman set years ago. And along the years I have bought multiple tools along the way that I needed (Snap-On Torque wrench, craftsman pliers, screwdrivers, rubber mallet, valve gauges, etc.) My buddy owns a shop and he did all the machine work on the motors. Please re-read my op. I simply asked if the tool worked. Not that I needed a single tool because Im broke and cant afford anything else, and have no tools.

who are you kidding, you dont own any tools because you dont turn wrenches. gimme a break, if you did turn wrenches you wouldnt have needed to make this thread


if your buddy owns a shop and did all the machine work on your motors, then that means YOU DIDNT DO JACK SHIT - which is what i said earlier.

you claimed that you rebuilt some motors, i called bullshit.


seriously, its tough being the brains of the operation around here.

JdmDrift4Food
06-04-2012, 01:53 PM
Excuse me? You dont know me sir. I hate people like you, that think they know EVERYTHING. My buddy did the machine work, BUT I put the motors together from bottom end to top end. I have no idea what your issue is, but you are not helping anyone in this world acting like an ass, and I guarantee you dont act like this in person. If you do, I bet you have no friends, no family, and nothing. Maybe thats why your bitter. But you arent helping anything by trolling the internet being an ass. It makes you look inconsiderate and like a 16 year old boy, pissed off at the world with a stick up his ass. Thanks for your concern. Here is a pic of my current project. As you can see, I have one of the drawers of the craftsman set on the floor. Not trying to prove anything, defending my ability to work on a car. I will update pics on here when its done. Thanks again! I'm sure I'll hear more out of you.
http://i1227.photobucket.com/albums/ee431/JdmDrift4Food/photo23-1.jpg

DS562
06-04-2012, 02:00 PM
oh jesus here we go agaaaaiiiiin

JdmDrift4Food
06-04-2012, 02:07 PM
Lol this guy... I can't believe how he was unable to answer a simple question without looking like an ass. Whos he trying to impress??

ixfxi
06-04-2012, 05:12 PM
Excuse me? You dont know me sir. I hate people like you, that think they know EVERYTHING. My buddy did the machine work, BUT I put the motors together from bottom end to top end. I have no idea what your issue is, but you are not helping anyone in this world acting like an ass, and I guarantee you dont act like this in person. If you do, I bet you have no friends, no family, and nothing. Maybe thats why your bitter. But you arent helping anything by trolling the internet being an ass. It makes you look inconsiderate and like a 16 year old boy, pissed off at the world with a stick up his ass. Thanks for your concern.

I want to apologize for my behavior. The reason I lash out is because you are right, I have no family - no friends. I am alone and I am miserable.

Please accept my apology. I hope that one day we can truly be friends.


Lol this guy... I can't believe how he was unable to answer a simple question without looking like an ass. Whos he trying to impress??

I just want to feel accepted.




ILLEST

JdmDrift4Food
06-04-2012, 05:29 PM
Your cool. Thread is dead, I got my answer. Annoy someone else with your excessive knowledge please. And in the future, dont judge a book by its cover, just shows how ignorant and stupid you truly are. Thanks.

word sux
06-04-2012, 06:20 PM
gear wrench set > this junk

JdmDrift4Food
06-04-2012, 06:40 PM
For sure. Impulse post because I saw a sears ad on tv haha. Was curious how well it worked for smaller projects. Been solved, wrench obviously is pointless for automotive, no longer interested. Was asking for reviews from anyone that has used one.