if you wanted a speed demon and had 4000$ for a base car wha

[orlando240]

if you had 4000$ to get a car to turn it into a speed demon that can eat supras what wouuld you get?

[AceInHole]

a Mustang???  LoL.  
You're asking a 240 board that question.... don't be suprised if someone says a 240 (with an RB swap??  oh #### yeah...)

[sykikchimp]

A 240 with an RB25DET &nbsp;<img src="http://www.zilvia.net/f/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/smile.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=':)'> &nbsp;running about 20 psi &nbsp;... &nbsp;OHH HELLL YEEAAAAHH


lol &nbsp;.. &nbsp;sorry I had too

[wyldchyld7x]

if all you wanna do is eat up supras in the quater get an old sixties or early seventies gass guzzling hotrod. &nbsp;Can get a decent one for a few thousand and have enough money left to make it run 11's.

[AceInHole]

yeah.... not much can beat a bit of v8 tinkering..... untill you run into a corner. &nbsp;as long as there's no turns you'd be all set!

[White240sx]

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if you had 4000$ to get a car to turn it into a speed demon that can eat supras what wouuld you get?
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For only $4000 a 600cc bike could probably take car of most of them. Would need a 'busa to take on the 1000hp+ ones.

[Drifting Ricer]

A rotary rocket starlet. I heard those projects are pretty cheap.

[keepitmovin]

DOMESTIC...hahaha #### those tank weighing rockets.

[misnomer]

bah, no need to bash the domestics. It's all about taste. I for one would prolly be equally at home behind the wheel of a '92 240sx SE and a '70ish Nova SS. Don't knock it 'cause you don't drive it <img src="http://www.zilvia.net/f/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/tounge.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=':p'>

That said, I'd use a 240sx base car to build on <img src="http://www.zilvia.net/f/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/tounge.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=':p'>

[keepitmovin]

Oh im not bashing I HAVE NOTHING BUT RESPECT FOR DOMESTIC....actually if I really wanted to burn ass I would supercharge a camero but its just not me Nissan &nbsp;for life. It just wouldnt bring any joy. But yeah i was just saying they are tanks (always make fun of my friend with that just cause they are a little heavier) and ROCKETS ...sorry bout the misunderstanding

[Azarael]

get an old bug and trick it to ####, lol.

[mistert]

a Turbo II FC3S rx7 with a big t04. however, for a project car, a 240z or 260z with a small block chevy could be done for under $4000, get it running 10's for that much easily enough.
for building a 240, you could get one with a blown engine or wrecked drivetrain relatively cheap. theres a guy who sells full clean silvia s13 front clips with body panels and motors for like $3400 or so shipped. i doubt you could get that and a car for under $4000, but close to it for a wrecked 240

[grahams14]

It's rumoured that a tuning company over here is building up a 500hp s14 for an u/k customer. Now that will eat a few Supras!!!! :biggrin:

[Grant]

i wouldnt mind a 1970 hemi cuda.

[Azarael]

I'm taking a loan for 20-25k probably at the end of this year to build a 500hp+ s13 hatch ... and everyone here is gonna help with the planning, hehe.

(Edited by Azarael at 1:29 am on Jan. 8, 2002)

[grahams14]

Azareal, take a look at www.norrisdesigns.com He has a nice s13 on the demo cars section.

[Azarael]

Sweet, I see a few improvements that can be made just on that one <img src="http://www.zilvia.net/f/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/smile.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=':)'>

I'll be using a sr20det myself with a 2.2 stroker kit from toda racing, 8.5 to 1 compression ratio <img src="http://www.zilvia.net/f/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/smile.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=':)'> I'll post my plans sometime this month.

[mistert]

well man, if you're going to spend 25k, why not just do some sort of skyline engine? an rb25det or rb26dett will give alot more power than an sr20 ever will. by the tiem you spend 25k on an rb26dett you could be past 900hp, probably just as far on an rb25det.

or you could just buy a supra TT and get at least 550hp to the wheels. just my opinion.

[NOSfEDs12vh45dett]

well for $4000 USD, I would go for either 200sx or 300zx(tt), or a skyline GTS4 coupe turbo(91').

[Azarael]

a supra ... whats the fun in that ... hehe

as for the skyline engine ... that huge chunck of iron will mess up the 50/50 weight. If I would do a skyline engine i'd put it in a 300zx ... sorry this is off the topic ... i'll stop posting in this thread <img src="http://www.zilvia.net/f/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/tounge.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=':p'>

[ca18guy]

Well nice to see that everyone stayed with in the $4000 limit in there posts <img src="http://www.zilvia.net/f/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/wink.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=';)'> Exept for the Roatry Starlet mention NOTHING anyone posted could be done for under $4000. My $4000 Supra beater would probably be a 85' 300ZXT (85's were the lightest and had slightly turbo cooling capabilities then the 84's) Buy one for $1500 (with enough patience you could find a nice one for that cheap) Buy a T3/T4 turbo ($600) Starion Intercooler ($300) piping for it ($50) Homemade K&amp;N Intake ($40, actually free cause I already have it) Custom 3&quot; Exhaust ($200) Electronic Boost Controller ($300, actually free again cause I already have one) All that and I still have $1010 left for a paint job or Rims or something (insurance) That should give you close to if not over 300 HP <img src="http://www.zilvia.net/f/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/smile.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=':)'>

EDIT: Just reread origanal post, guess it said BASE car that would serve as the platform to beat Supra's. Well shit that could be anycar, thats no fun <img src="http://www.zilvia.net/f/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/tounge.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=':p'>

(Edited by ca18guy at 10:20 am on Jan. 8, 2002)

[AceInHole]

well, i figured as long as the car itself is within $4000.... if you think you can beat a Supra with $4000 you've got your work cut out for ya... maybe some sort of beater with a 200 shot of nitrous.... (of course, you'd need to buy a new car before you refill the bottle).

[drift freaq]

well I know my buddy Gary stuck a RB25 in a 95 S14. The skyline clip cost him $2500. He put a carbon fiber hood in part to compensate for some of the extra weight. He has since converted the car to a track machine. could you get a RB25 powered car to eat a Supra hmmmmm. You know what ?? There are not that many Supra TT's out there I say leave em be. If your gonna go after something I think it would be fun to eat Porsches seeing as half the guys that drive them have ego's as wide as Sunset blvd on the strip. lol

[ca18guy]

</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote </td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">Quote: from AceInHole on 11<img src="http://www.zilvia.net/f/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/wow.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=':0'>3 am on Jan. 8, 2002
well, i figured as long as the car itself is within $4000.... if you think you can beat a Supra with $4000 you've got your work cut out for ya...
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Thats the point. You could buy just about any old car for $4000 thats a boring question. But make a car that can beat a Supra (or other cars in it's league) for $4000 thats a challenge, besides most Supra drivers can't drive just ask HaloZ <img src="http://www.zilvia.net/f/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/smile.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=':)'>

[uuninja]

My picks are as follows.

Drag: First gen DSM + bolt on's can run 12's for 4G's.

Circuit: First Gen RX-7 full race beater could be built for under 4G's

[AceInHole]

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well, i figured as long as the car itself is within $4000.... if you think you can beat a Supra with $4000 you've got your work cut out for ya...
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Thats the point. You could buy just about any old car for $4000 thats a boring question. But make a car that can beat a Supra (or other cars in it's league) for $4000 thats a challenge, besides most Supra drivers can't drive just ask HaloZ <img src="http://www.zilvia.net/f/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/smile.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=':)'>
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Well then.... get any car and run too much nitrous.... you'll have at least one fun run...
Going the domestic route is one way, and even then it's not a very original one.
Getting a Civic and running nitrous would be a Fast and the Furious way of doing things I suppose....
Otherwise, building a reliable 13 or under second car is going to take either a lot of DIY work or a lot of $$$.... $4000 isn't exactly a lot of $$$.

Anyways, if I was forced to do it.... I'd look for an S12 with the VG30E and run a turbo on it (I'm assuming you can just get the turbo mani and turbine from a z31's VG30ET). &nbsp;It'd probably be easier to stick with the engine the car came in... otherwise you're sort of wasting the engine you just bought. &nbsp;With any extra money you should be able to get the engine rebuilt or tuned to an almost new condition, and some junkyard parts shouldn't cost very much. &nbsp;

[chickenmanq]

I'd get a Nissan truck that hasn't been wrecked, redo the internals, put a supercharger on it, 240 suspension, and make it run 10's. &nbsp;Then I'd go toast WRX's. &nbsp;<img src="http://www.zilvia.net/f/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/smile.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=':)'>

[Zemus]

</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote </td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">Quote: from keepitmovin on 12<img src="http://www.zilvia.net/f/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/wow.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=':0'>6 am on Jan. 8, 2002
Oh im not bashing I HAVE NOTHING BUT RESPECT FOR DOMESTIC....actually if I really wanted to burn ass I would supercharge a camero but its just not me Nissan for life. It just wouldnt bring any joy. But yeah i was just saying they are tanks (always make fun of my friend with that just cause they are a little heavier) and ROCKETS ...sorry bout the misunderstanding
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I like both, i have a Monte Carlo 85 SS right now, and i want both, and screw rb25det, get RB26DETT!!!

[mistert]

rb25 wont fuck your weigh dist too badly. move battery to rear and get a fiberglass hood and you're almost there, and you can scrap A/C too (you'd probably have to anyways) and PS, and be there with no problem. the engine only weighs like 50lb more than the KA

[S15Drifterx]

i wouldnt mind having a supra. &nbsp;my dad had a supra. &nbsp;they are pretty nice. &nbsp;not much can beat a supra if it is tricked out. &nbsp;thats a hard one.

[White240sx]

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rb25 wont fuck your weigh dist too badly. move battery to rear and get a fiberglass hood and you're almost there, and you can scrap A/C too (you'd probably have to anyways) and PS, and be there with no problem. the engine only weighs like 50lb more than the KA
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Weight distribution means nothing (well, not really...), there are cars with 62/38(ITR) and 41/59(Porsche 911) weight distribution that easily out handle ~50/50(240sx) cars, it is over hyped at best.

Polar moment of inertia is what should be attributed to putting a larger mass upfront, but even then a street car isn't going to handle any different with an RB or an SR.