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[Beaupro44]

The Fast and the Furious: De Pere man's cars are scheduled to be crushed | Green Bay Press Gazette | greenbaypressgazette.com (http://www.greenbaypressgazette.com/article/20120527/GPG0101/205270497/The-Flat-Furious-De-Pere-man-s-illegal-cars-crushed?odyssey=tab|topnews|text|FRONTPAGE)
Yeah this is my buddys car anyone that can do anything is more then willing to help out some sort of way.
here is my number
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[kikcaffine]

god damn Im gonna make one of these fund raiser things and see how many people will just blindly give me money.

[fliprayzin240sx]

So why didnt the car atleast have the JDM vins on it? Sounds uuuuuber fishy to me. But oh wells, people who bought skylines have known the possible consequences of owning these cars. Sucks that he's the latest one to get pinched.

[Mister.E]

what exactly do you expect the people of zilvia to do? they are going to crush the cars no matter what anyone says.

[Mister.E]

they are going to crush the cars no matter what anyone says.

they are going to crush the cars no matter what anyone says.http://www.50centloseweight.com

how original

[smokescreen240]

great minds think alike?

[DoobieS13]

god damn Im gonna make one of these fund raiser things and see how many people will just blindly give me money.

why not? lol Shreeveco did it

[ch1873857]

booo who cares its a freakin skyline. when you do shady shit to get by the law . they are going to crush the cars no matter what anyone says .

ha ha

[Kuma]

Looks like your friend shouldn't have tried to sell them.... His bad.

[Mister.E]

they are going to crush the cars no matter what anyone says .

http://i2.kym-cdn.com/entries/icons/original/000/000/015/orly.jpg

[drift freaq]

Unfortunately pleading ignorance to a law does not hold up in court. Judging by the story it seems that the defendant indeed knew he could be violating federal law. In essence he sought to exploit a loophole. He got caught when the loophole was closed and he attempted to sell the cars. Perhaps it would have been better for him to part them out.
The most interesting thing to me about the story is the fact that he obtained the cars as shells. Which means the previous parties had already stripped them out for legal reasons.

He pleaded and gave the cars up to be crushed because otherwise he would have done federal pen time for the charges. Its done get over it.
They are a couple of R33 chassis's not anything to get worked up over. If you want to give him money go right ahead but the fact is he was somewhat aware of the chances he was taking. He gambled and lost.

[xoxide]

Raised $2000 already... Damn, I need to come up with some bs excuse to ask for money. Thats insane.

[YamaMX]

It's always been a known risk, sucks to see an actual labor of love get crushed though.

[94spitfire91]

Why did it show a slideshow of pictures making it look something similar to a build thread.. Ive never seen a news source do something like that.

[S14DB]

Cliffs:
Beno crossed the line when he put the cars up for sale, Johnson said. A DOT investigator spotted the purple car on eBay and contacted Beno by email pretending to be an interested buyer from Milwaukee.

"He asks Beno if he has a title, can it be titled, could I get a (vehicle identification number)," Johnson said. "We'd expect Beno to say no, it can't be titled. He's got a letter, he's been told. But he responds that upon sale and payment, you can receive a Florida title and then go to the Department of Motor Vehicles and get a title transfer from Wisconsin. He's trying to circumvent, to get around the law."

Beno claims he believed it was possible and legal to get a Florida title and have it transferred to Wisconsin and that he had no intention of deceiving anyone.

"If anybody had actually come to the house and laid the money on the table, I'd have been honest and said you could only get a bill of sale with me, not a title," he said. "That's how I bought it, and that's how it's being sold."

In the end, Johnson charged him with two felony counts involving conspiracy to commit a fraud, a felony count involving the absence of the manufacturer's ID tags and two misdemeanors relating to the absence of those tags.

Beno said he bought the original shells of the two cars without ID tags and that the seller later mailed him both tags. He admits he was guilty of possessing vehicles without the tags.

"I didn't know that was illegal, but I understand ignorance of the law is no excuse," Beno said. "But I don't accept those felony charges. They are above what is reasonable."
Now you know why we want people to disclose the status of their grey market cars they try to sell on here.

He flat up lied about the cars when trying to sell them. Trying to screw some sap after he found out they were illegal. Got caught, good riddance.

It one thing to have owned the car for years and have them show up and take them. But, to find out they are hot and then try to dump them on some sucker is a douche move.

[DJ-of-E]

It one thing to have owned the car for years and have them show up and take them. But, to find out they are hot and then try to dump them on some sucker is a douche move.

If he had them marked as non-operational and no use on the road, would he still be able to keep them?

I'm just thinking, judging by the money he makes, he could just keep them as prize/show cars or dedicated hitched track cars. Oh well, there are some Skyline owners who would go to meets for "street cred" only to be in a sausage fest :hey:

[Teddy]

So is he getting screwed for owning them or for having titled them illegally?

[Phlip]

So is he getting screwed for owning them or for having titled them illegally?

Well, he apparently knew he was taking the chance to begin with, so I will not call it "screwed," unless you want to call it screwing himself...
But...
Yes on both counts

[ch1873857]

http://i2.kym-cdn.com/entries/icons/original/000/000/015/orly.jpg

yeah.. really. it was a joke. get it?

this is why i have no desire to own any skyline.. ever.. its bad enough that the engines are even extremely overpriced...

[raz0rbladez909]

this is why i have no desire to own any skyline.. ever.. its bad enough that the engines are even extremely overpriced...

Exactly, the thought of all the legal issues and the pain in the ass of finding parts is enough to turn me off to even thinking about one. Plus there are plenty of legal cars you can get out here to make them perform just as well if not even better now a days.

I do find it funny that our government is so worried about the importation of these cars. Realistically I'm sure they are much safer then many of the old classic cars that are still driven around and finding ways to properly get them to pass emissions can't be that difficult. Besides if I want to drive a tin can on the streets why should the federal government have any say in what I do with MY life.

[jstr269]

If he's really wanting to just save the cars, why not sell them as track only cars or to a collector. He should call SEMA, or Jay Leno. They have the money and power for something like this.

[ryandh]

not sure what the hell happened to this guy...big bird was a bond released skyline. kinda fishy

[Frank_Jaeger]

see this iswhy i dont own any skylines. first off their dumb glorified econoboxes with four door grocery getters. people in japan litterally drive these into walls for fun. their worthless. they laugh at us caus we want them s o bad. paying all this money to import them just to have them crush. they are going to crush the cars no matter what anyone says.

[ryandh]

see this iswhy i dont own any skylines. first off their dumb glorified econoboxes with four door grocery getters. people in japan litterally drive these into walls for fun. their worthless. they laugh at us caus we want them s o bad. paying all this money to import them just to have them crush. they are going to crush the cars no matter what anyone says.

I remember being this ignorant/uneducated. Really? A grocery getter? and your bucket 240sx is such a high performance machine right? N/A 2.4L right? damn, I'm in the wrong car... My R33 sure could use a solid KA.

[Bboyswift]

^ youre r33 is next lol. But in all seriousness. The r33 is the 'tard of the skyline era. Just like the datsun 260z lol.

Those cars are getting crushed reguardless. He should just be lucky theyre taking off the felonies. He's an idiot that knew the consequences and got caught.

[Frank_Jaeger]

I remember being this ignorant/uneducated. Really? A grocery getter? and your bucket 240sx is such a high performance machine right? N/A 2.4L right? damn, I'm in the wrong car... My R33 sure could use a solid KA.
I have 10 electric turbos on my KA. FI 2.4L. Make over 637bhp to the wheels.

[ryandh]

I have 10 electric turbos on my KA. FI 2.4L. Make over 637bhp to the wheels.

:picardfp:

[ryandh]

^ youre r33 is next lol. But in all seriousness. The r33 is the 'tard of the skyline era. Just like the datsun 260z lol.

Those cars are getting crushed reguardless. He should just be lucky theyre taking off the felonies. He's an idiot that knew the consequences and got caught.

the R33 was the first production car to lap the 'ring' in under 8 minutes. Looks better than the R32, although heavier, it's still an awesome car. Yes I might be weird for loving the R33 models, but people are too uneducated about them and hate them cause they don't look like the R34's. I personally like the R33 better than both models.

[intel5811]

Well atleast I know the green winnie would strick anywhere...

[DJ-of-E]

the R33 was the first production car to lap the 'ring' in under 8 minutes. Looks better than the R32, although heavier, it's still an awesome car. Yes I might be weird for loving the R33 models, but people are too uneducated about them and hate them cause they don't look like the R34's. I personally like the R33 better than both models.

Isn't the R33 the only approved and bonded Skylines when Motorex was doing the papers?

[WanganNastyMachine]

Isn't the R33 the only approved and bonded Skylines when Motorex was doing the papers?Yes.

All three chassis have their ups and downs guys. I personally love 32s and 33s and dont like 34s but hey, its an opinion. Either way, the GTR platform is a force to reckon with, remember Group A guys? Such a grocery getter it beat everything in its, and its upper competitors weight class. Racing against E30s, 190Es, 930s, Cosworth Sierras and Supras ect.

Theres a bunch over in the homeland, 2 chassis will not be missed. It sucks but we are all aware of the consquences when attempting to import/title these cars.

[fliprayzin240sx]

I remember being this ignorant/uneducated. Really? A grocery getter? and your bucket 240sx is such a high performance machine right? N/A 2.4L right? damn, I'm in the wrong car... My R33 sure could use a solid KA.

Dont mind him...he probably cant comprehend the difference between a POS, throw away Skylines vs a GTR Skyline. He's right tho, Skylines in Japan grocery getters since thats what Americajins like to buy after watching fast and furious. Even my damn wife had an R33 GTS-25T while we were there, because its a "skyline".

[fliprayzin240sx]

Yes.

All three chassis have their ups and downs guys. I personally love 32s and 33s and dont like 34s but hey, its an opinion. Either way, the GTR platform is a force to reckon with, remember Group A guys? Such a grocery getter it beat everything in its, and its upper competitors weight class. Racing against E30s, 190Es, 930s, Cosworth Sierras and Supras ect.

Theres a bunch over in the homeland, 2 chassis will not be missed. It sucks but we are all aware of the consquences when attempting to import/title these cars.

Actually there isnt as many GTRs left in Japan as you think. Skyline GTRs are getting harder to find, are holding their value and demand for early model R32 GTRs are blowing the fuck up (due to the 25 year importation rule). Last I checked, you still cant find a damn R34 GTR for less than 3,000,000y. Alot of them are getting shipped and bought up overseas, particularly in the middle east.

[Mister.E]

yeah.. really. it was a joke. get it?


yeah i fucking got it. that's why i posted that retarded picture...it's a joke.

[ryandh]

not sure what the hell happened to this guy...big bird was a bond released skyline. kinda fishy

I was wrong... Big bird was not a bond released GTR... It came in on a TIB

http://www.gtrusablog.com (http://gtrusablog.com/)

Sean is so full of wisdom

[Nicelyphe]

Hmm should'nt this be closed either way? Due to the fact that he is practically asking members for help on a type of fraud scandal? Practically trying to hide the car from the authorities.

[kikcaffine]

whos getting refunds?

[tqstarburst]

Hmm should'nt this be closed either way? Due to the fact that he is practically asking members for help on a type of fraud scandal? Practically trying to hide the car from the authorities.
Yes, it should be but who knows why it isn't. Either way this thread is a good read.

[Phlip]

Enough of this panhandling nonsense.

He was in the wrong and got caught, he should be left to deal with the consequences, if they crush some cars then so be it.

:lockd: