Component speakers

[bri96se]

I need some help on choosing component speakers to replace the ones I blew out. I had some JL vr components in the front. they sounded good until i put more power to them and they blew. I was thinking about replacing them with the JL xr components but was also thinking about switching to mb quart components. Does you one know which is the better of the two? Thank for any help.

[mistert]

i dunno, but i have my eye on some inifity kappas

[West]

I just got in the mail some Infinity 62.3csi & 63.3i, only cost me like 100$ each set on ebay. But if your looking between the JL and the MB Quarts then either way you go you will have a top quality speaker. I cant justify spending so much money on something that has a very good chance of blowing. Maybe its time to try MB Quarts.

[bri96se]

I had the JL's for about three years. I put 100w to each channel they were only rated for 70w rms I think. The XR series can handle more power but I wanted to now if the mb quarts sound better for the money

[DragonReborn214]

MB Quarts!!! MB Quarts!!!!

If you want real quility, thats the only way to go.

(Edited by DragonReborn214 at 5:21 pm on Jan. 8, 2002)

[Nismos14]

dragon have u ever had a set of the JL'z? if not then how can u say the MB's r better?

[bri96se]

Are they really that much better than the JL XR components? I would go with the infinity kappa's but the JL VR components that I had sounded just as good and were half the price.

[DragonReborn214]

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dragon have u ever had a set of the JL'z? if not then how can u say the MB's r better?
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Yes, I have heard JLs, and eclipse (eclipse audio is nice stuff too), but I preferred the MBs.

My friend has a land cruiser with all Eclpise stuff.... I get a headache every time I ride with him because its so loud.

I was looking at MBs site, and the highest ohm rating for tweeters they had was 6. Does anyone know who has higher ohm speakers? I havent been paying attention to audio for like 2 years.

[Nismos14]

how high do u want ur tweeters rated? u dont want the highs to scream at ya huh? <img src="http://www.zilvia.net/f/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/wink.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=';)'>

[DragonReborn214]

Well, I have some headphones that are 64 ohms, and they are pretty clean sounding... Though my system in my room only has 8 ohms per speaker. &nbsp;Do different rules apply to car stereos?

[my240likenoother]

take a listen to the B/A pros my frind got them and they sound real nice
hes running 300 watts a channel

[bri96se]

Why are the Mb quart components so cheap? Except for the Q series the other ones are real inexpensive

[Nismos14]

the inexpensive ones dont have the same build quality, im sure thas the reason

[bri96se]

So which one would be the better investment? I am only trying to put a 100w rms to each channel.

[s14vaxlr8]

i was think of getting the polk momo components: any imos?

[misnomer]

I'm happy with my Kappas. I do need a better amp, right now they're bridged with my sub on a 150w RMS amp. I'd like a ~50w RMS to feed to my front and rear speakers, but that can wait <img src="http://www.zilvia.net/f/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/tounge.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=':p'>

[sykikchimp]

I had some MB quart coax 4x6's in the back of my 240.. &nbsp;they had excellent SQ.. &nbsp;Very good imaging. &nbsp;Really made the JVC's in the front sound like trash.. the bad thing is the JVC's cost Almost as much as the MB's did. &nbsp;

BMW uses MB Quart in their cars from the factory from what I hear, and they have some really nice factory systems..

[NOSfEDs12vh45dett]

Infinity Kappas, the only way to fly.

[lilredstiffy]

&gt;&gt;they sounded good until i put more power to them and they blew.


You should be a &nbsp;little more careful with the gains bro.

[idunit]

Ok JL's are a pretty decent mid but the mb quarts will smoke em. &nbsp;I've got 4 different component sets that i've kinda pieced together to make 2 sets of 3 ways and some extra parts. &nbsp;At one point I was running a set of the reference line bridged off a rubicon 702. &nbsp;So the set was getting 700+ watts. &nbsp;That was the loudest cleanest mids I've ever heard. &nbsp;A close second was diamond audio. &nbsp;I've also hear good things about mirel and focal polykevlars. &nbsp;I have some polks, not the momo's but they sounded pretty darn good for the money. &nbsp;I ran them off the same 702 just had the gains really low with an extra bass blocker on the mid but I still ended up smoking one mid.

[gregshin]

Like evey car audio component it's all up to one's opinon. JL, MB, etc....From the hi end range like Focal, dynaudio, arc audio, etc...So far the best sounding components i've heard for the money were CDT Audio High Definition components. Granted they are about $370 for the fronts....but they put out excellent mid bass and awesome hi's...Where are you from Bri96se?

(Edited by gregshin at 9<img src="http://www.zilvia.net/f/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/wow.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=':0'>9 am on Jan. 9, 2002)

[Azarael]

Infinty or Audiobahn ... i've had had nothing but good experinces with either of these brands and you can find them fairly cheap on ebay.

[rabbit23]

jl makes good components, mb's in my opinon are the best sounding in the market, of course i haven't heard the real high end (350+/pair) stuff but for the money imo mb quart is the way to go. a friend of mine just installed the infinity kappa's in his accord and it sounds pretty good. i think it is all just personal preference because i don't think anyone will outshine the other. that is between the jl's, mb's, and the kappa's &nbsp;i am talking of the highend series not the entry level they all make.

[bri96se]

I am not really looking to spend over $500 dollars. The JL xr series sound better than what I had but the JLvr series I thought were compairable to the Kappa's but were lower in price. I haven't heard the mb quart's yet but was considering the mb quart's q series. Has anyone heard the kappa perfect components yet and how do they compair to the ones I have talked about?

[gregshin]

if you're gonna get kappa perfercts you might as well spend a bit more and get those CDT's....here is a review below...this is CDT's mid level speaker btw...

The Six-And-A-Half Inch Speaker Challenge
I-Car Magazine September 2000
by Simon Oh

Today's car audiophile never had it so good. In any system, speakers establish the basis for quality of sound. There are so many speakers in our local market, and with such a wide choice, how do we choose the correct speaker? However, there are difficulties when choosing the right speaker. Go to any of the installation shops around the island and you'd most probably be more confused by the varied recommendations of each shop. Here, we test speaker drive units (a loudspeaker usually consists of drive units: a tweeter and a woofer or more, the enclosure and a crossover-Ed.) from three different brands available locally. The comparison criteria-price range of between $300.00 to $400.00 and a 6.5-inch midrange-tweeter combination.

The chosen three are:
1) CDT Cambria CA-60
2) MBQuart DKC116
3) Boston Rally RC620

All three makes use butyl rubber surrounds for their woofers to fight the damaging effect of both ultraviolet rays from the sun and high humidity. Butyl rubber will not break down under our strenuous climate unlike conventional foam rubber surrounds. MB Quart and Cambria woofer cones are made of polypropylene while Boston Rally uses a material known as non-hygroscopic copolymer, which is claimed to be water proof.

For the tweeter section, all three makers use different technologies. CDTAudio which makes the Cambria speakers, has a 1&quot; silk dome design with a neodymium magnet and a Ferro fluid filled voice coil gap to give a higher power handling capability in a compact driver. MBQuart's 0.5&quot; tweeter is mounted centrally of the woofer, making it the only coaxial in this threesome. Its dome is made of pure titanium with neodymium magnets. As for Boston Rally, they employ their proprietary Kortec dome tweeter, also with neodymium magnets with Ferro fluid cooled voice coil.

MBQuart has the lowest power handling capability of the three. The DKC116is rated with a power range of 50-120W)rms) while the Boston Rally has a whooping power range of 20-275W (rms) with the Cambria lying somewhere in between.

Each of the three speakers' boasts some technological differences that is stated in their own technical jargon. However, at the end of the day, to the audiophile, the result of al this technological hype is-how does it all sound. Onward to the comparison.

The speakers were hooked up through a switchboard and powered directly by Alpine's single disc head unit's amplifier. In order to keep the signals clean, there were no other power amplifiers present. It is no doubt that with good amplifiers, the speakers would shine further. The speakers were mounted in similar boxes.

Different types of music were used to test the speakers. They included instrumental tracks from saxophonist Kenny G, pianist Richard Clayderman, violinist Vanessa Mae and the Cincinnato Pops Orchestra. Pop music was taken care by the likes of Britney Spears' Crazy track and Michael Jackson's Thriller.

Playing the tracks from Kenney G through the Cambria CA-60, the most immediate realization was that the speakers had a wonderfully flat response, with accurate reproduction of the music and a lot of detail. Kanny's breath running through the valves of the soprano saxophone could be distinguished clearly. The saxophone sound had a real presence and oomph. Switching to the DKC116, clearly the emphasis on the higher frequencies. There was slight harshness and it rose when the volume was turned up. However, I could feel the music being very close to me, very upfront. TheRC620, on the other hand, had a softer and tighter bass. But, it too succumbed to some harshness and the notes were too shrill,

The tracks from Vanessa Mae's violent Storm proved too much for the DKC116,with the strings sounding muddled when it got too fast. Boston's speakers were pretty accurate but never matching the real-like sounds emitted from Cambria's The harmonics of the strings were crystalline and the bass, real.

All three sets produced good imaging. But the imaging and depth were even better with Cambria's Controlled Dispersion Technology, putting them one step ahead of the competition. This was made all the more apparent in the orchestral pieces where you could feel each instrument' location on stage.

While vocals sounded a little hollow through Boston's speakers, the Cambria reproduced it warmly and naturally. Although MBQuart speakers also produced the vocals clearly, there were some frequency response peaks, which could be detected to be at a higher output, made sound it slightly unbalanced.

As in any audio component, speaker's choice is dependent on the type of music most favored by the listener. Each speaker has a different characteristic, but was judged by how accurate or how close to the original recording it could produce. Also, it must be sufficiently sensitive to the smallest of signals and able to reproduce the most dynamic pieces of music. A good speaker will give a clean and well-balanced reproduction of the music, adding nothing unnatural to the music and being even across the music spectrum. The bass should be weighty and real, the treble crystalline and the overall sound, transparent.

As an overall package, the Cambria CA-60 would have to come out tops in this comparison. Second and third places are more difficult to differentiate as each have their own area of strengths. Well, after hearing the music from the Cambrias, all I can think of will be to spend my next $300.00 to $400.00 to change my current front speakers.

[gregshin]

i looked up &nbsp;my source and they say they can sell them for about $180-200 with warranty...the same exact speakers also.

[bing]

gregshin i hoep you didnt type all that out yourself...

this reminds me of some stuff i just picked up..

a kicker amp and JL 12w3 sub, i think i'll post more in the group buys because i'm selling it