Rear Overfender Mount Options?

[MrFairlady]

Looking for suggestions to mount rear Charge speed Over fenders.

They sit so flush to the body and cover The whole 1/4 anyway unlike most.
I'd much rather allow them for ease of removal w/o damaging If needed+no holes to drill even though I'm hacking up the rear 1/4's anyway?
Would rather not Rivet them,...but will if I have to.

i was looking in to Thin flat heavy duty Magnets of some type? Glued to the Back of the fenders?
Anyone?Ideas?

[pacotaco345]

velcro msglngth

[Om1kron]

you want to risk them flying off of the car at speed when they're available in huge stocks a plenty in the US? Rivet them and when you have the coin just mold them in.

[bigyellowevo]

I have the Chargespeed overs also. I started mounting mine this weekend. I riveted them on, but I would also like to see if there are any other options out there, other than molding them on. I personally think the rivets look great though, lol.

[EvoVIII808]

Double side 3m tape. but i personally would Rivet them.

[Pink Slut]

i rivetted mine pre-paint.

(spelling?)

http://i167.photobucket.com/albums/u136/Pink_Slut200sx/pos13/done2.jpg

[TrustS13]

Someone local to me used some kind of threaded rivet, basically he could easily unscrew them. But you are still going to have to drill/implant the rivet part in the body. Probably 3m double sided tape is your only bet.

[MrFairlady]

what about counter sinking the rivets or something and body filling over them?

as much as I'd like to mold them...I just worry about that Cracking and splitting down the road a few years and having to redo EVERYTHING just to fix it.
Do they make flat style Rivets?
I use to like the Look of rivets but Its just More work and risk of the Fiberglass panel cracking when riveting.

I know I'll want to paint the rivets if I do but damn...i would think a custom magnet down the entire outer edge of the Fender and then of course the Rear bumper and side skirt overlap should hold them down Tight yeah?

Thanks
Keep the opinions and ideas coming.

[towlie]

You could do a few dzus fasteners

[MidwestMyriad]

http://3mduallock.net/wp-content/uploads/2011/11/a6.jpg

3M Dual lock. Read up on it, this is what I'll be using for my kit, along with some zipties.

[MarcD]

Rivnuts are threaded rivit like barrels that can be flared just like a pop rivit, you could then use countersunk socket caps to sit nice and flush. I did this on my skirts for easy removal. Problem is that the overs are really thin so I doubt it'll work.

There are also countersunk rivits available.

[95KA-Turbo]

If they don't already have it, fiberglass on a lip that tucks into the trunk, where the rear bumper meets, and in the door still, and rivit it in there. Then use double sided tape/that dual lock velcro on the area around the windows and bottom of the car.

[atom]

I hate the hassle of overfenders personally but if I was to do it I'd probably rivet only the top corners and panel bond the rest.

[Tearlessj]

Rivnuts are threaded rivit like barrels that can be flared just like a pop rivit, you could then use countersunk socket caps to sit nice and flush. I did this on my skirts for easy removal. Problem is that the overs are really thin so I doubt it'll work.

There are also countersunk rivits available.

The more common term is Nutsert. My friend posted a DIY about it a while back. Search for it OP.

[xMOTIONLESSx]

If they don't already have it, fiberglass on a lip that tucks into the trunk, where the rear bumper meets, and in the door still, and rivit it in there. Then use double sided tape/that dual lock velcro on the area around the windows and bottom of the car.

This, i would also try to extend and tuck it under the tail lights and use the rivet nuts for easy removal. You'll still be drilling holes but won't be visible unless you open the door or trunk. You'll have a clean molded look but easily removable.

[Om1kron]

chargespeed overs do not go into the trunk or the door.

[om3ga]

I would honestly trust the 3M red double sided tape the 1" wide stuff all the way around the edge of the overfender. I have held a squiggly road sign onto my wall for 4 years with that stuff and i only used 4 3" strips! Then when i took it off the wall, it ripped a ton of paint off the wall! The stuff is legit!

If i were wanting to secure them insanely, i would be drilling holes and using Flat headed burnt titanium bolts with rubber washers in between the overfender and body to hopefully eliminate any water from getting into the body.

I would try the 3M first, if somehow it flies off (which i highly doubt) then i would take a more serious approach. You can drill but you cannot undrill.

[fliprayzin240sx]

I would honestly trust the 3M red double sided tape the 1" wide stuff all the way around the edge of the overfender. I have held a squiggly road sign onto my wall for 4 years with that stuff and i only used 4 3" strips! Then when i took it off the wall, it ripped a ton of paint off the wall! The stuff is legit!

If i were wanting to secure them insanely, i would be drilling holes and using Flat headed burnt titanium bolts with rubber washers in between the overfender and body to hopefully eliminate any water from getting into the body.

I would try the 3M first, if somehow it flies off (which i highly doubt) then i would take a more serious approach. You can drill but you cannot undrill.

My personal take on it is this, if you're running overfenders and doing it right...your fenders are already fucked since you're supposed to cut the wheel arch higher. Least of your worries would be some rivets.

But yah, I trust 3M double sided tape...if you use that on all the edges and you clean up the fenders real good, I doubt that shit would fly off.

[blueshark123]

Everyone is doing it wrong why dont you just use panel bond like its suppose to be done

[95KA-Turbo]

I will say the 3M tape is crazy. I ripped a slit in my cheap ass side skirts trying to pull it off - and it was the second application of the same tape (so I put it on, took it off, put it on again without changing the tape, then on that second removal it ripped).

Seriously though, a few choice rivets for piece of mind and an epoxy/I guess that's what panel bond is and you'll be good to go.

[Om1kron]

Everyone is doing it wrong why dont you just use panel bond like its suppose to be done

And if you break a fender, how do you propose getting it off without having to re-paint that side of the car?

[Style]

rivet them in or velcro lol is just a bad look. mold them in, shit will not crack

[harangatang]

Rivet them. Then paint over the rivets. Molding BN's or Chargespeeds is a waste.
And the other tape/velcro stuff being mentioned seems sketchy to use on overs.

I bowed mine out, and still only used 9 rivets on each side. Nearly everyone that see's my car thinks they're molded in... If they notice at all.
If you mount them flush, you can get away with only using like 4 or 5 rivets.

http://i89.photobucket.com/albums/k208/harangatang/DSC_5757-1.jpg

http://i89.photobucket.com/albums/k208/harangatang/Tyler-1.jpg

[ixfxi]

rivets.... velcro.... glue....


amateur night fellas

[pandapoo503]

use dzus fasteners.

[rhdgloria-y32]

^^+1 use them on the drag bike to keep the glass on the frame. works bitchin!

[davinci]

rivets.... velcro.... glue....


amateur night fellas

i would think with velcro, even the thinnest stuff would still space the over fender off the regular fender by at least 1/8 inch giving a gap and making it look like crap..

use nutserts

[MrFairlady]

Rivet them. Then paint over the rivets. Molding BN's or Chargespeeds is a waste.
And the other tape/velcro stuff being mentioned seems sketchy to use on overs.

I bowed mine out, and still only used 9 rivets on each side. Nearly everyone that see's my car thinks they're molded in... If they notice at all.
If you mount them flush, you can get away with only using like 4 or 5 rivets.

I was just going to PM/text you again on what you did.Yours you can't even see the rivets.You counter sink them or something and fill over?or just paint over. Id def paint the rivets for sure.
I'm cool with that and WHOLE reason is Paint.


I'm hoping to test Fit and Drill/mark 1st, & paint them Off the car and Then Install them hoping nothing happens in the process.:tweak:
Id hate for the paint to Create a Filled "1 peice look" due to it sitting so flush and then Boom,..peel off a giant Piece if it were to Separate even a Tad.
Otherwise I'd pay extra and mold them.
damnit. Now i'm torn. I may just cut the shit out of the fender enough to clear wheels and Glue the Shit.

[lflkajfj12123]

just here to say over fenders suck d

kill yourselves

[ixfxi]

i would think with velcro, even the thinnest stuff would still space the over fender off the regular fender by at least 1/8 inch giving a gap and making it look like crap..

use nutserts

spoken like a true prodigy

[JFoxx]

just here to say over fenders suck d

kill yourselves

yeah because having a 12" wide wheel sticking out 3 inches from the stock fender looks cool.....



+1 For rivets

[Shift n Drift]

Someone local to me used some kind of threaded rivet, basically he could easily unscrew them. But you are still going to have to drill/implant the rivet part in the body. Probably 3m double sided tape is your only bet.

the ones you screw are called hi-lock fasteners

and your supposed to screw them till the hex head breaks off

i kno, im an A&P Mechanic, we use them all the time

[Eky_drifter]

velcro!! then tell me your address! lol jk

use revits like 6 on the whole thing with 3M double tape (the very thin one) found at your local auto paint supply store.
^^^
this will prevent your overs to be wavey between the revits and wont have water (rain/car wash) sneak in the cracks

or use what i did! plastic revits. but you will need to use a good amount like one every 6-10 inches apart. this sounds like it wont hold but mine are locked in great!
^^^
i use the plastic ones bcuz when you drill them out they dont screw up your paint if the bit grips to the revit while turning (and being plastic they dont grip much at all). the stadard revits will really EF up the overs/ and paint if it does grip.

well thats my .o2

[Black R]

Not a 240, but:

I ended up using m5-.8 socket cap 30mm bolts and #10 washers with rubber on the inside.
I made holes 1/2" from the outer edge and 4" apart.

I also used 3m rubberized undercoating for the holes I drilled in the chassis.

On the back side, I am using m5-.8 nuts with nylon locking centers.

http://i27.photobucket.com/albums/c164/Black_R/EF/ca47ae5c.jpg

http://i27.photobucket.com/albums/c164/Black_R/EF/47208765.jpg

http://i27.photobucket.com/albums/c164/Black_R/EF/7bfb1c49.jpg

http://i27.photobucket.com/albums/c164/Black_R/EF/05f68dae.jpg

http://i27.photobucket.com/albums/c164/Black_R/EF/d4c76af1.jpg

[florante rea]

Mold and be done with it!:)

[lflkajfj12123]

yeah because having a 12" wide wheel sticking out 3 inches from the stock fender looks cool.....



+1 For rivets

don't buy wheels that won't fit your car?

:picardfp:

-9000 for over fenders

[Csomme]

Collin, those overs fit so good that you'll only need 4-6 rivets. Get the overs to fit how you want before paint, drill holes and secure with rivets. Then drill out the rivets. I would paint the overfenders off the car, and paint the car, then secure the overfenders. Use aluminum rivets, then take a little bottle of the paint you used on the car and dab it onto the rivets. Clean look, easily removable.

[Csomme]

don't buy wheels that won't fit your car?

:picardfp:

-9000 for over fenders

Come on soap. We've all seen the kinds of cars Collin puts together and they're all awesome. A set of overs isn't going to ruin anything here.

[Om1kron]

Come on soap. We've all seen the kinds of cars Collin puts together and they're all awesome. A set of overs isn't going to ruin anything here.

Ignoring soapgun, he hasn't finished a car yet.

[1Day]

http://i159.photobucket.com/albums/t148/j_mcgill/FILE0339.jpg

I'm going to be using these alum. rivnuts with ss button head bolts to mount my chargespeeds.

[blueshark123]

And if you break a fender, how do you propose getting it off without having to re-paint that side of the car?


If you mold it you will still need to repaint the car qp if you rip it off no matter what in the end you will need paint, but to each their own. But bviously this is not what the op wants so i know what you mean wayne.

[Tempo]

yeah because having a 12" wide wheel sticking out 3 inches from the stock fender looks cool.....



+1 For rivets

i concur, 12s with no problem.

http://i365.photobucket.com/albums/oo97/77Drifter77/IMAG0711.jpg

[slower than you]

Racecars use rivets.

Retards use Velcro.

Jussayin...

[Style]

someone give me a good reason why not mold overfenders?
is it because you think they will crack where you molded them? cause if thats the case then your are using the wrong bonding material

or is it because you drift and you are scared that the tire will blow out the overfender.. if thats the case then just repair it on the car and paint it, any good paint shop should be able to color match your repair if you cant do it.
i dont get it lol, but hey not my car

[russian]

its because when you drift you wreck. then destroy the fender along with the rear quarter and have to redo all the work again. its just so much easier to rivet then bond and bondo that shit. its convenience. huge.

[Om1kron]

stewart leask is the only person here dumb enough to blow coin on charge speeds for drifting.

[Tearlessj]

i concur, 12s with no problem.

http://i365.photobucket.com/albums/oo97/77Drifter77/IMAG0711.jpg

The problem there is the camber. I wouldn't want to run more than -1.5 degrees Yes, I am serious.

[zurud]

http://i159.photobucket.com/albums/t148/j_mcgill/FILE0339.jpg

I'm going to be using these alum. rivnuts with ss button head bolts to mount my chargespeeds.

Where did you get those metric rivnut?. Most places sell the sae one.

[Om1kron]

If you're using google chrome type in cal3-580 and hit enter. prepare to have your mind blown when you see what the internet does. Secondly m5? pretty thin imo but then again I don't know what the hell you're going to screw into those.

M5 is the same size as the valve cover garnish allen bolts on an sr20.

[1Day]

Got the rivnuts at Fastenal but the local one didn't have the bolts so I had to source them from a local hardware store. Bolts are just some M5 16mm ss button heads.
I took this idea from Modified Mag. Heres the article if anyone cares Project Honda S2000 Overfenders - Modified Magazine (http://www.modified.com/tech/modp-1003-project-honda-s2000-overfenders/index.html)

[C. Anderson]

The only problem I see is you are using aluminum rivnuts. You have to be careful installing them or you can rip the threads out with the tool very easily. I posted this a while back also.
http://zilvia.net/f/tech-talk/201475-nutserts-how.html

[blueshark123]

Use titanium burnt countersunk bolts if you want to be awesome.

[ixfxi]

http://i27.photobucket.com/albums/c164/Black_R/EF/ca47ae5c.jpg

what the fuck is this... widebody civic in the rear? hmmmm okay.


I'm going to be using these alum. rivnuts with ss button head bolts to mount my chargespeeds.

those aluminum rivnuts are good for nothing, they strip quicker than dirty hooker from TJ.


someone give me a good reason why not mold overfenders?

can you give me a good reason WHY to mold overfenders?
molding = filler
filler = fail

use your fucking head


The only problem I see is you are using aluminum rivnuts. You have to be careful installing them or you can rip the threads out with the tool very easily. I posted this a while back also.
http://zilvia.net/f/tech-talk/201475-nutserts-how.html

glad to see you went with SS hardware. i too accidentally used black oxide hardware JUST temporarily as i needed something quick from (insert hardware store of choice) when my car was at the body shop, and they immediately rusted. zinc coated or stainless (preferably) is the only way to fly.


i love how it takes zilvia 5 days of pondering to find the proper solutions to these problems. i do the same shit with my nephew, i like to make him work for his answers. only difference is hes 9.

[lflkajfj12123]

Ignoring soapgun, he hasn't finished a car yet.

http://pawsru.org/paws/thumb/paws4498_u-mad1s.jpg

[bb4_96]

For a forum where it seems like every third person in an me, this thread is so full of fucking fail. Velcro? Rivets? Glue? Magnets? Am i really hearing this shit on the forum that crucifies people for using butt connectors? The only solution proposed thats even a decent one imo is the nutserts.

If you don't care about the stock fenders weld nuts directly to the back side of the stock metal and mount through the fenders.

If you care about the stock metal cleanly cut out the portion of the rear quarter that's under the overfender and made stand-offs from inner sheetmetal with some flat stock. That way if you every want to go back pull the stand-offs and weld your stock metal back on.

Either will work better whether you are molding the fenders or not.

[ixfxi]

hey.... who do you think you are, me?

you cant make smug comments like that, only i can.

keep it down.

[Goldeneye9mm]

how about these? the holds on most plastic panels these days

http://i00.i.aliimg.com/img/pb/651/244/404/404244651_859.jpg

[KA-Life86]

Not sure if serious

[KA-Life86]

I was really hoping this would be a serious thread with actual close ups of the different ways people have mounted their overs. Like close ups of harangatangs car or something. Not monkeys flinging poop at the other monkeys because they look different

[Om1kron]

http://pawsru.org/paws/thumb/paws4498_u-mad1s.jpg

Not mad at all, not everyone likes vskf, vsxx, or blitz03 that sink and tuck on stock metal. I like my corvette wide silly wheels.

[ixfxi]

how about these? the holds on most plastic panels these days

http://i00.i.aliimg.com/img/pb/651/244/404/404244651_859.jpg


oh man.....

[bb4_96]

I forgot how to make the facepalm guy.

[russian]

hahahahahaa.

no.

rivet that shit.

[Te37]

Why not just have a buddy hold them on or duct tape or super glue. Come on guys, 3M Body Panel Adhesive.

But i guess you want it removable. Drill a 3/4 hole in stock metal and mount a magnet in there so it is sitting under like 1/8in and weld it in, then get metal 3/4in size washers and epoxy (fiber glass/how ever you want to mount it, besides drilling in the over fender..DUH) them to the over fender. Boom put it on it will stick till you manually forcefully remove it. Each one can hold 26 lbs, so use 4 per over fender, trust me its not going to fly off, and by mounting it down a little in the stock metal it cant slide off either.
Or if you don’t feel safe use the 1 inch magnets that can hold 65lbs each!

Magnets (http://www.magnet4less.com/product_info.php?cPath=95&products_id=929)

Your welcome.
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