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dct223

02-04-2004, 11:52 PM

So tonight i was coming home from my night class at the CC i go to. I get off Central Lafayette and i head on my way to the small town i live in, Moraga to be exact. Theres a stop light where i have to turn left to go to the curvy roads that which leads you to Moraga. I went in the inside lane and there was this black z28 camero, very nice looking and clean with flows etc etc u guys probably know what im talking about. Light turns green and i turn left, and accelerate how i normally do. Next thing i know the z28 speeds up and starts pacing right next to me and accelerating fast then slowing down to wait for me... im deciding on if i should run or not... i speed up cus the 2 lane road merges merge and we hit a Red light at the stop light right before the curvy roads, im in front of the z28. Finally turns green and i do a lil turtle start, then i gun it. The road is pretty bumpy at the start so im going around 50 miles, the z28 is right behind me and we are going around 70. Then the curves start coming i slow down for the first sharp turn and down shift to 3rd and start driving up the curvy mountain road going 50-70 the whole way up grip driving and shifting to 4th of crouse =D. Each turn i see the z28 getting further and further behind and see him always try to catch me at the straights but they arent long enough for him to. Finally we reach moraga and i slow down, in the end he was about 8-10+ cars behind me and i turned on my street where my house is. It felt really nice beating that camero which a cocky HS kid proll just got. I know on the freeway i would have terribly lost but wheres the fun driving straight =D. My car just has intake and n1 duals for exhuast on a KA motor and has no suspension... i wonder what would of happened if i had some after market suspension to stop the body roll =D well yea thats my story... I just wanted to post on the forum for anyone who cares to read about my first real race, i dont normally wanna race because if i get a ticket that means im f*cked. No PO-PO on the curvy road haha.. :coold: :) :Owned:

Late

Davis

DRFT

02-04-2004, 11:56 PM

big whoopdi doo....you coulda killed your self , among others...

dct223

02-05-2004, 12:12 AM

=/ Driving up and down the hill 3-4 times a day for the past 3 years i know my limits... Road wasnt even wet... Like i said i wrote it for people who cared... Didnt have to bag on my post...

DRFT

02-05-2004, 12:57 AM

i didnt bag...its just plain sense that racing kills....and who doesnt care about someone like you threatening other innocent peoples lives...

hadokenny

02-05-2004, 01:11 AM

i didnt bag...its just plain sense that racing kills....and who doesnt care about someone like you threatening other innocent peoples lives...

heh...i enjoyed the story. Not saying street racing is right but i think its pointless going around telling ppl how wrong it is cuz i think we all know. There will always be ppl there bashing other ppls kill stories just becasuse they think they are so much more superior. I mean we all like to have a little fun sometimes, dont we?

btw nice S14 dct!

DRFT

02-05-2004, 01:29 AM

have fun til soemthing bad happens...

thx247

02-05-2004, 01:29 AM

its cool and all. Wonder what would have happened if he knew the road as well as you do lol

dct223

02-05-2004, 01:36 AM

Kenny, thanks for the props about my car. I totally agree with you, i know street racing isnt safe, thats y i usually just ignore the people who pace me and want to race. But hell... sometimes u just want to go fast! if you know what i mean haha...

DRFT... did u get in a accident before or something?? Im not a crazy driver that always races everytime i get... The road i drove on everyday isnt even that bad.. I always went up and down it in my moms maxima at 50mph before i got my 240... anways u seem like u were recently in an accident, and i hope everything is cool now.

thx247, the kid lived in Moraga (where i live) and goes to the old HS i went to cus i saw the parking permit on his car. Pretty sure hes been down and up the road plenty of times. That road is the only way to get outta the small town i live in to 24 and go somewhere haha..

DRFT

02-05-2004, 01:41 AM

old_s13

02-05-2004, 02:02 AM

nope never been in a accident, neith have i gotten any tickets,that includes any parking tickets too! ive read too many accidents regarding driving on roads. just dont want another victim to "racing".

In the end just think, what do you got to prove? if you want to prove something do it legally on the track.

its called having fun.. as long as you are in control of your car thats all that matters. its not cool to go 100% balls out on the street, but if you know your limits and are just doing to have fun -- its different.

I am not saying to go crazy on the streets, I am saying to do it with moderation. The way you make it seem, no one should ever drive fast and that they should always go to the track. Well, I never go to the track and I enjoy driving hard in the canyons. To each his own.

curbhuggerrps13

02-05-2004, 02:12 AM

street racing is dangerous..but u dont always find the fastest people on the tracks...or have money for it...sure someone may die..but hey! someone else will be reapin in the insurance! jk n e ways as long as it was in a area not over populated and in a situation where someone dumb enough to walk on the roads can get clipped..and this whole "i know what u did last summer " crap happens again... see me and my buddys have a spot where no one goes period. btw people race on the streets i think cuz its more of a rush..compared to being on the track nervous as hell with all those people watch u fail..compared to all those people watchin the medics scrap ur brains off the pavement...different people different taste in racing..like autox and drag or cruisin or dodgin rabbits...a accident is prone :bigok:

typhoonslippery

02-05-2004, 02:50 AM

some people buy sports cars to destroy them and tke other people with them it seems

Advan

02-05-2004, 07:14 AM

I have to agree with DRFT on this. I really doesn't matter how much control of the car you have, it was still a dumb thing to do, especially up and down a mountain at NIGHT. Death comes in strange ways, so no matter how much control of the car you have you can still die. But that's my opinion. Glad you didn't get in an accident though.

old_s13

02-05-2004, 09:29 AM

Sorry guys, 80% of the races I've participated in were on the canyons AND at night. I guess I too am a dangerous motherfucker and should be locked up.

Gotta watch out for those joggers late night on the canyon! hahaha come on now, highway racing is much worse than racing in the canyon. Canyon racing involves complete car control, and if the person sucked he'd be dead already.

Like I said, I never said to go balls out.. but whats wrong with having some fun and playing around? Man..

bri96se

02-05-2004, 09:40 AM

Man, everytime some makes a post about street racing we always have to hear someone complaining about it. Sure streetracing can kill someone but so can driving on the highway. I say that if it is done inconsideration of the traffic conditions on the road, meaning if to many cars are present then don't do it or bad weather, it is fine. If you get caught we all know the consequences. Who drives a sports car to go slow? I know I don't.

Advan

02-05-2004, 09:56 AM

Heh, now I didn't say anything about being locked up.
highway racing is much worse than racing in the canyon.
I have to disagree, although I've never been on a canyon before, the fact that it has curves and sharp turns, there could be a patch of sand on the road, that he doesn't see, and as soon as he turns, he lose all control, start spinning and off the canyon he goes.

About highway racing, the way I see it, you're not only risking your life, but you're risking others as well. To add, you can also cause a major accident by crashing into a semi........and now I see why you say highway is much worse than canyon. Nevermind.

Bone

02-05-2004, 10:22 AM

Not to be critical but I know we have all heard how bad it is to street race but this is turning into a no smoking campaign...... If you dont like or approve of it I understand and respect your right. However It should also go the other way. I am not saying everyone should street race I'm just saying it happens.

I will however say when we do it we create a running road block on both sides of the cars racing so no outsiders can be caught in the middle of our ignorance. If something happens that costs us our life then we understood that risk when we lined them up. I would not want to be responsible for killing another person who had nothing to do with my stupidity. So I do understand both sides of this I just dont agree with driving it home with a sledge hammer.. :naughty:

By the way I smoke to!

werm

02-05-2004, 10:40 AM

There is only 2 places I would and have really "raced" to top speed. On the highway around 2-3 in the morning (no one is on the road) you can go from with no one there. By the time you hit top speed your not even half way to the next exit, and you slow back down to 70mph or so. It's a completely straight lighted stretch also. And this other road that has a stop light and 2 lanes. It's straight also with no roads, driveways, parking lots, etc... leading into the road for about a mile, which is more then enough.

xLSTONEx

02-05-2004, 10:43 AM

I love the story. I love street racing. Its the best thing ever to happen to cars. In fact 8, thats right 8 people died in California last year relating to street racing deaths. Less than 30 in America. And yes it is 30 lives to many, but its not as dangerous as you all make it out to be.

NervGS

02-05-2004, 11:07 AM

Canyon driving involves skill and knowledge, a car that handles well (who cares about power) with some good sticky tires can murder lots of things... I've had idiot acquaintances go up to canyons, not knowing them at all (first timers) thinking they are Takumi and all badass, then, next thing you know *bam*.

"I crashed my car."

Learn the canyon, drive alone, or drive shot-gun with a person that knows it. Drive it 5-10 times and just know when the turns, bumps, holes, etc are coming up. I dunno how many people I've had to tell this to before and AFTER they crash...

-glenn

Pepperoni

02-05-2004, 11:51 AM

Nice race.

Just don't kill me when im driving around the corner in the opposite way :)

Pepperoni

02-05-2004, 12:01 PM

-E-

02-05-2004, 12:19 PM

nice story, good kill

PANDA

02-05-2004, 12:20 PM

i find all this arguing amusing...

what is everyone really concerned about here?..that it will be YOU around the next corner who is killed by a street racer?..doubtful..that this kid is breaking the law and speeding and driving recklessly?..we're not cops, so prolly not..that he will hurt himself?..kill himself?..someone else?..my guess it is this issue which gets most of your blood boiling...but why?..who cares about his life?..you don't even know him..if he were to die would it affect your life in the slightest?..no, it wouldn't..you would go on as you always have..

so basically...:gives:..let him race...let him die...one less idiot on the road...

bri96se

02-05-2004, 12:35 PM

Why does he have to be an idiot?:down:

Advan

02-05-2004, 12:38 PM

......right. what is everyone really concerned about here?..that it will be YOU around the next corner who is killed by a street racer?.. like i said death comes in mysterious ways. One minute your tongue is an inch away from your Gatorade bottle, next thing you know, you're just like that guy in the motorcycle picture accident.
See that's the thing, we don't want anyone to die, hell I wouldn't want anyone to die from a car accident. I know if some of the ppl on here; the highly knowledgable ones, died, I'd feel bad, because this forum has lost someone they respected and learned a thing or two from. YOU wouldn't care if one of them died, but I do.

h0m3skill3t

02-05-2004, 12:39 PM

i drive that road every day its fun just gotta watch out for the deer. You met me before, i had the black 96 se and my buddy had the hatch. And the road isn't that technical or anything...60 mph is pretty comfortable up it and you dont have to cross over the line at all..um ya i forgot why i posted.hahah :lockd:

Bone

02-05-2004, 12:39 PM

Can't we all just get along.....hehehe

PANDA

02-05-2004, 12:42 PM

trust me...odds are in favor of him being an idiot...do some simple math on population density, average test scores in schools these days, IQ averages, people graduating from college, etc etc..

the percentage of idiots in this world is growing...

street racing is a factor which puts you into that category...

sorry, simple math...what can ya do?

oh and just so you don't get all butt hurt...i'm an idiot too...i race my car in my local mountains all the time, i drift on streets with cars in front of and behind me, i drive 100mph in traffic...i love adrenaline...take the risks with the pleasure...such is life..

PANDA

02-05-2004, 12:50 PM

......right. like i said death comes in mysterious ways. One minute your tongue is an inch away from your Gatorade bottle, next thing you know, you're just like that guy in the motorcycle picture accident.
See that's the thing, we don't want anyone to die, hell I wouldn't want anyone to die from a car accident. I know if some of the ppl on here; the highly knowledgable ones, died, I'd feel bad, because this forum has lost someone they respected and learned a thing or two from. YOU wouldn't care if one of them died, but I do.

somehow i doubt that your life would significantly change as the result of a death of a member of this forum that you have never met...

you very well may be a more caring individual then i am but let's be realistic...

i would be saddened by the death of a friend, someone i knew in person, someone who affected my life...but a random individual whom i had never met...don't think so...

Advan

02-05-2004, 12:59 PM

somehow i doubt that your life would significantly change as the result of a death of a member of this forum that you have never met... It'll make me think twice about racing in the streets or highway, I'll ya that.
i would be saddened by the death of a friend, someone i knew in person, someone who affected my life...but a random individual whom i had never met...don't think so... Yea, I'd be saddened too, but again, after hearing how that person died, and if I was going to somewhat do the samething he did, because it was fun, and then found out that he died from the sport that I wanted to do, then not only would I remember it, I'd start to think twice about attempting it.

old_s13

02-05-2004, 01:04 PM

I have to disagree, although I've never been on a canyon before, the fact that it has curves and sharp turns, there could be a patch of sand on the road, that he doesn't see, and as soon as he turns, he lose all control, start spinning and off the canyon he goes.

About highway racing, the way I see it, you're not only risking your life, but you're risking others as well. To add, you can also cause a major accident by crashing into a semi........and now I see why you say highway is much worse than canyon. Nevermind.

haha this has to be one of the funniest posts Ive ever read.

First of all, you havent been in a canyon before.. so that instantly disqualifies you. Second of all, you admit to seeing how a highway can be more dangerous. Third? Shuttup. :)

Honestly, its a canyon.. if you fuckup its YOUR ass. If you hit a patch of sand hey man, you should have driven that canyon 10 minutes ago to see if it was clear before you start going BALLS out. I've hit patches of dirt, rocks, water, debri.. you name it.. but I am good enough to in almost all cases, control the car. I say ALMOST all cases because there still hasnt been a case where I've lost it, BUT you NEVER know. You dont want to sound egotistical and fuck around with god because he'll be the one proving his point in the long run. This is why you cant be egotistical and why you cant be absolutely stupid in the canyon. You need to save some space for mistakes, mishaps, etc..

As for the OTHER driver, I usually observe them BEFORE i race them to see if they have any car control. Do you guys do that? If you answered no, you shouldnt EVER drive fast or race anyone because you yourself are pretty much inept as a driver.

Good drivers know how to take their cars to a "practical limit" and at the same time, observe other drivers and never race "for the rush" you just have a good time.

Everyone makes this as if its serious business, its just goofing around in a canyon.. no need to get butt hurt as if milliions of people are going to die. On the highway there are SO many more idiots who shouldnt even be doing 60+mph.. so I can understand highway racing, but canyons? Come on now.. thats like telling people not to go hiking because they can slip and fall off of a mountain -- OH WELL, survival of the fittest baby.

- Mike

nightwalker

02-05-2004, 01:14 PM

People will street race. What can you do. I actually like street racing, late late at night mind you. It was still a nice kill. Whether he knew the road, or not, a race is a race. If you can't drive your car very well, don't. Very simple. We know our limits, just take commen sense into consideration.

PANDA

02-05-2004, 01:19 PM

It'll make me think twice about racing in the streets or highway, I'll ya that.

and if I was going to somewhat do the samething he did, because it was fun, and then found out that he died from the sport that I wanted to do, then not only would I remember it, I'd start to think twice about attempting it.

really?..so you are going to give up driving??..you are going to NEVER race??..because MANY people have died while driving and racing...flying?..walking?..breathing??..playing basketball?..having sex?..

c'mon..be realistic...i see your point, i really do...you just need help expressing it...

you try to make anologies but you're not very good at it...

Advan

02-05-2004, 01:40 PM

haha this has to be one of the funniest posts Ive ever read.

First of all, you havent been in a canyon before.. so that instantly disqualifies you. Second of all, you admit to seeing how a highway can be more dangerous. Third? Shuttup. Had a feeling you were goign to chew me head off.
First....Which is the reason why I said nevermind, to that post....MEANING..I see what you're saying.
Second. Yes
Third. Shush old man:)
really?..so you are going to give up driving??..you are going to NEVER race??..because MANY people have died while driving and racing...flying?..walking?..breathing??..playing basketball?..having sex?.. when I meant sport, I was mostly refering to racing in the streets or canyon. Racing on the track, I'll do that, because it's alot safer than the streets and a canyon. Flying...never will do it. But it's just my opinion.

Edit: And no I won't be racing on the streets.

PANDA

02-05-2004, 01:45 PM

Third. Shush old man:)

i think he's like 26?..lol

Racing on the track, I'll do that, because it's alot safer than the streets and a canyon.

that's an interesting comparo...i'd be curious as to the actual figures...

Advan

02-05-2004, 01:50 PM

haha, well he's officialy "old man" to me now.
Well I would that suspect that more people die in street or canyon racing than, track racing. You really don't hear about alot of people dying in the track, as much as you would hear ont he street.

SilviaSR20DET

02-05-2004, 01:53 PM

I bet whomever responds with complaints to these "street racing" posts probably most likely street raced a couple of times anyway. I bet if "those" ppl owned a fast car and was at a redlight and another fast car approaches and signals a race im positive they would race. Im just saying most but not all.

Bone

02-05-2004, 02:43 PM

I'm scared to sleep because I might roll out of bed and break my neck does that count? LMAO

ADRENALINE RULES!

Advan

02-05-2004, 03:04 PM

Your attempt to make a funny...work on it.

nightwalker

02-05-2004, 03:47 PM

Your attempt to make a funny...work on it.

haha, now that was funny. :whip:

PANDA

02-05-2004, 04:22 PM

:hahano:

should have been stated...

in re: your attempt to make a funny...

work on it..

oh, and write that down.

ahh who am i kidding..it was horrible to begin with and beyond help..

kinda like StReEt RaCiNg..

97DubTruck

02-05-2004, 04:31 PM

I always went up and down it in my moms maxima at 50mph before i got my 240...

what year maxima?

no i'm kidding.

anyway drive safely but have fun. just know your limits which for the most part i think you do. my thing was i got a speeding ticket and lost my license for 20 days. the longest 20 days ever. it could have been 6 monthes and i would have freaked out.

nice 95 btw.

CreAziaN

02-05-2004, 05:39 PM

=/ Driving up and down the hill 3-4 times a day for the past 3 years i know my limits... Road wasnt even wet... Like i said i wrote it for people who cared... Didnt have to bag on my post...

heh, after reading his story and this...doesn't he remind you of Takumi? heh... The more powerful car trying to catch up to the less-power car on the straightaway....Maybe it's just me :duh:

dct223

02-05-2004, 06:11 PM

LOL DAMN i didnt think a lil story of me going uphill against a z28 would stir up so much controvery LOL... O man... Thanks guys for the people who gave me props about my 95 240... and i especially thank the people who think im a idiot.. Yes YES im just a big crazy driver about to crash everytime i go out on the road cus i try and race all the time.. LOL... OOO Man... I appreciate it =D And ROFL bringing math into the thread YES i love it.. 19 units that im taking... i really dont need more math problems in my life... LOL common guys im not that stupid.. ive had my car for a while and i know the limits of myself and the car.... and as hom3skill3t said its really not that bad of a road, he drives on it as much as i do... lol go M town =D

DSC

02-05-2004, 06:24 PM

I didn't read the 2nd half of the posts but I'm sure I know what they all say.

Having fun on the street? Fine, nobody who deserves a 240 drives like grandma. My concern comes with the fact that most people are stupid...and like the rest of us, get st00pider as their adrenalin starts pumping. This causes them to take risks even most sane people wouldn't take. I bet 99.5% of the time everything is fine, and prolly 90% of the time it isn't fine, the result is a single car accident. Anybody who gets in the drivers seat of a car controls how much they push the pedal, so they are accepting whatever risks are associated with pushing the pedal harder. My main problem is the people who DON'T accept those risks...the poor bastards that get creamed (or scared enough to wreck their own car) by the street racerz. Oh, and stupid street racing stories cause stupid anti-street racing topics. Why don't we just stop posting street racing stories because they're lame?

xLSTONEx

02-05-2004, 09:45 PM

Oh wait sorry guys. Only 14 people in the US, 14, died in a street racing death last year. Do a search on google of "how many people die in street racing a year." The answer 14. I doubt anyone here will the the person around the corner. Street racing isn't really dangerous, it's just stupid.

Landon Stone

kandyflip445

02-06-2004, 04:56 AM

Mike just likes to drive at night in canyons so he can show of his fancy-ass lights. :fawkd: I think he'd have an advantage just with those while also making it safer for him. I like to mess around too sometimes but I never take it to the limit of my car, or my driving ability for that matter. I think it's good to watch the other driver too to see his/her car control. But in the end it's still dangerous. It's not like there is always a track you can go to 24/7.