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Thor88
05-03-2012, 12:33 PM
First, sorry if this is a noob questions, but I searched and could not find an answer.

I am starting a restoration of sorts on my DD S14.
While I have the rear subframe off I figured it would be a good time to replace all of my bushings, and was planning on purchasing the Energy Suspension master kit.

My question is, I am also planning on replacing most of my rear control arms with some basic entry level arms(ISIS, Circuit Sports,etc). Will I need to replace the bushings on the new arms? Or is it kind of a waste to order the full Energy master set?

Thank you for your help, and reading my long post.

ultimateirving
05-03-2012, 02:23 PM
the arms have new bushings, and heim joints. so they arent necessary to replace on the stock arms/rucs/rods. But subframe/ sway bar and knuckle are all good to replace... GL with the knuckles BTW. U need a press to get those in and out

I just recently replaced all my susp arms, AND bought the master kit. I think its worth it for a 20year old car like my s13.

Edwin562
05-03-2012, 02:31 PM
I bought master kit once, i loved it. I had all stock suspension arms except tensions....

Thor88
05-03-2012, 03:41 PM
Yeah, I've heard great things about the master kit, and still plan on buying Energy bushings to replace everything that is not included with the arms.

I'm just wondering if it would make more sense to buy the full kit and have replacements for down the road, or just buy the individual bushings I would need.

Thanks for the feedback guys, I really appreciate it.

Promise Land
05-03-2012, 07:53 PM
I did the master kit and the ISIS arms last Fall.

Thor88
05-03-2012, 10:23 PM
I did the master kit and the ISIS arms last Fall.

Were all bushings in the master kit used?
Did you replace any of the bushings that came with the ISIS arms?

Thanks again for the help guys

Promise Land
05-04-2012, 06:38 AM
The stock arms have rubber bushings on both sides. If you replace the arms with aftermarket (such as ISIS), you won't use the ones that connect to the subframe. Those will be an aluminum insert that come with the arms. I used as much as I could out of the kit and then threw the extra pieces up on Ebay.

Thor88
05-04-2012, 09:41 AM
Perfect.

Thats exactly what I needed to know.

Thanks

DH1991
05-04-2012, 11:22 AM
First, sorry if this is a noob questions, but I searched and could not find an answer.

I am starting a restoration of sorts on my DD S14.
While I have the rear subframe off I figured it would be a good time to replace all of my bushings, and was planning on purchasing the Energy Suspension master kit.

My question is, I am also planning on replacing most of my rear control arms with some basic entry level arms(ISIS, Circuit Sports,etc). Will I need to replace the bushings on the new arms? Or is it kind of a waste to order the full Energy master set?

Thank you for your help, and reading my long post.

I'm almost certain the sub frame bushings don't come in the master kit. It includes almost all suspension bushings, and a few odd ball ones are in other kits they offer. That's how mine came, did my knuckles and rear lower control arms a month ago. A press is needed to put them in though, to get the old bushings out I just burned then and cut the metal sleeve. This thread is decent with info and help

http://zilvia.net/f/tech-talk/340727-s14-suspension-build-thread.html

Thor88
05-04-2012, 02:19 PM
I'm almost certain the sub frame bushings don't come in the master kit. It includes almost all suspension bushings, and a few odd ball ones are in other kits they offer. That's how mine came, did my knuckles and rear lower control arms a month ago. A press is needed to put them in though, to get the old bushings out I just burned then and cut the metal sleeve. This thread is decent with info and help

http://zilvia.net/f/tech-talk/340727-s14-suspension-build-thread.html

Awesome man.

Thanks for the reply and the link to your thread, Thats exactly what I'm going for.

I think I'll just get the full master kit plus the subframe bushings and go from there.

Thanks again for your help