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Ok I am looking for a new car but not really sure what i want I know I want at least a 3.0 liter w/ possibly a Vtec engine but I dont realy know where to look for one at can someone help me out a little and maybe tell me some more about this car... the Nissan 300ZX that is sorry guys...
(Edited by Luv at 4:57 pm on Jan. 10, 2002)
wyldchyld7x
01-10-2002, 05:00 PM
don't know a whole lot about 300zx's but do know I allways liked the 2+2 seater.
BlankFlip
01-10-2002, 05:04 PM
twin turbo or n/a 300zx.
Kid Zelda
01-10-2002, 05:04 PM
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Ok I am looking for a new car but not really sure what i want I know I want at least a 3.0 liter w/ possibly a Vtec engine but I dont realy know where to look for one at can someone help me out a little and maybe tell me some more about this car... the Nissan 300ZX that is sorry guys...
(Edited by Luv at 4:57 pm on Jan. 10, 2002)
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Do you even know what VTEC does ?
I don't think honda has any 3.0+ litre vtec engines. If you get a 300, get a TT. IMO the N/A's don't have enough power to make up for their weight.
whateverjames
01-10-2002, 05:19 PM
there's the NSX with Vtec... i wonder if those acura cl cars have vtec
the twin turbo.. no i dont really know much about the Vtec i just know it gives a little more horsepower or so i hear
yeah but James i dont quite have the money for a NSX lol
what exactly in technical terms does the Vtec do Kid?
gschroeder
01-10-2002, 05:43 PM
I have a '91 300ZX 2+2 NA It's an awsome car as lomg as you don't mind putting in the $$ for Maintenance and repairs. They can get pretty expensive. I have never driven the TT but I have gotten the NA up to 145mph and that was only because of the limiter otherwise it would have been much higher. and I find it has plenty of power and nearly perfect handeling for my taste.
the thing is I dont really like the old body style myself though would a different body kit make it look better?
DuffMan
01-10-2002, 05:59 PM
VTEC gives you two (or more) seperate cam profiles.
Realistically VTEC just gets you better gas milage. It's the high compression and agressive timing that give you more performance.
Really it depends on how you look at it, but it doesn't neccessarily make a car fast.
I don't know how much you do or don't know but here are some links that I found helpful...
<a href="http://www.howstuffworks.com/engine.htm" target='_blank'>http://www.howstuffworks.com/engine.htm</a>
<a href="http://www.howstuffworks.com/question229.htm" target='_blank'>http://www.howstuffworks.com/question229.htm</a> that explains how car engines work and how vtec works.
BTW honda/acura is the only company that has vtec, but a lot of other car companies have similar things.
"Several engine manufacturers are experimenting with systems that would allow infinite variability in valve timing" I think porshe succeeded at this with their new 911 turbo...
I saw another link at the bottom of that page...<a href="http://www.leecao.com/honda/vtec/index.html" target='_blank'>http://www.leecao.com/honda/vtec/index.html</a> hehe "just what the heck is the thing that the rice boys are bragging about?"
(Edited by DSC at 6:14 pm on Jan. 10, 2002)
Kid Zelda
01-10-2002, 06:07 PM
</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote </td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">Quote: from Luv on 5:41 pm on Jan. 10, 2002
what exactly in technical terms does the Vtec do Kid?
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Well, they already explained it for ya.... happy reading
tnord
01-10-2002, 06:31 PM
i had a NA Z32 2 seater, loved that car, still do, i want another one, if anyone thinks that the NA Z's are a maintenence nightmare, just wait until you get ahold of a TT, i've worked at nissan dealers and it's not pretty, they can be absolute screamers if you set them up properly and keep em running, the Z32 didn't have any kind of varialbe valve timing as far as i know, 222hp stock is quite a bit compared to our 155, they are faster in a straight line, but don't have quite the handling capability i don't think
if you have any other questions just ask, i'll do what i can to answer
Thanks you guys looks like ill be up reading all night ... hehe
s13240sxman
01-10-2002, 07:25 PM
Honda has many engines that are 3.0 and higher with "V-Tec" 1st one would be the 1998 and up V6 accord with 200 hp at 6000rpms and 195 ft lbs. Its a great car and is had great pick up. The next one that comes to mind is the TL and CL also 98 and up but only on the 3.0 spec untill late last year when they got the best V6 ever made by Honda IMO the 3.5L TL/CL engine with 260hp and right around 222 ft lbs.... Many ppl that have tested the new TL/CL type S say its the best ride and power feel to ever come out of Honda V6 and I qoute "Yes we know the NSX have a V6" So there what I can help you with... Happy hunting. BTW if you care.
Specs!!!!!!!!!!
0-60 98 V6 Accord 7.4 and 15.8 1/4 mile
0-60 TL/CL type S 6.0 and 1/4 mile is right around 14.8 to 14.7
PS these are all auto, FWD witch is why I have a Nissan. :-)
DSC that one website is pretty bad ass... i just learned that you can take a 2.0 liter engine and make it better than a 4.0 liter engine.... this is great
#### i think i learned more about cars tonight than ive learned in my whole life i dont wanna quit learning now until i know it all lol
vtec is just hondas name for controlling cam lift and lobes etc etc toyota has vvt and vvt-i i think? nissan has now cvvt or cvt whatever . wasnt toyota the first to introduce this design? ive always been curious about that.
i know old maximas had vtc's on the intakes and so do the 300's
Nismos14
01-10-2002, 10:07 PM
i'll atest for the cl type-s my dad has one.... man that fucker hauls major ass
I dont know but after reading up on Vtec a little bit i kinda like it myself cause you gotta turn the lobes a few degrees to make the valves close later instead of earlier making it to where the fuel and air intake is faster making your car react at a better time... if my understanding was right on that
S14Pilot
01-10-2002, 10:58 PM
You forgot the Odyssey minivan. It comes with a 3.0 V6 with VTEC. I used to drive one when I worked for Honda. Let me tell you...for a minivan, it hauls ass. Especially when the inside is gutted.
I was king of the minivan stoplight drags. I owned Caravans, Windstars, Town and Country's....you name it. You'd be suprised how many married, middle-aged gusy who were forced into getting a kid hauler are game for a little slushbox racing.
LoL @ S14Pilot sounds like you had a lot of fun with that thing...
misnomer
01-11-2002, 12:21 AM
Luv: Now start reading up on our beloved 240sx. Drive one, and you won't go back <img src="http://www.zilvia.net/f/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/tounge.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=':p'> They are the best handling and best looking cars in their class, and with a l'il work, no slouch at the drag strip.
yeah i like the 240SX my boyfriend has one...
Archangel
01-11-2002, 12:51 AM
Luv, you may not really want a 3.0 V6 engine.
I used to drive a 3.0 V6 (Dodge Daytona). I really love the car, and it had alot of power. I remember thinking that I wouldn't be happy only having a 4 cylinder engine after owning that car. I now (proudly) own a 98 240sx, and I can tell you, that it is definately faster than my old 3.0 engine was.
Now I'm not trying to sell you a 240 or anything, just to point out that you would be supprised by what a 4 cylinder can do. My friend has a 99 Prelude (vtec), and a 93 Integra (also with vtec), and both are fast. Even before he modified either car, they had plenty of pickup and speed. And there are alot of 4 cylinder 1.8, 2.0, 2.2, or 2.4 engines that are alot faster than your average 3.0. Not to mention getting better gas mileage.
Just something to think about.
Also, vtec doesn't kick in until the higher rpms. In the low revs, there's no difference. The advantage comes in the higher rpms. When alot of engines peak, or even start to lose power, the vtec allows the engine to pull harder into the higher revs. Essentially giving you a much nicer top end, while leaving the bottom end alone. This is nice, but some of honda's vtec engines are kinda lacking in the lower rpms because they rely more on the high rpm power.
(**Warning: Blatent Sales Pitch Below**) :biggrin:
The Nissan 240sx on the other hand, is know for is strong bottom end, delivering plenty of power in the low rpms.
Archangel
01-11-2002, 12:52 AM
Sorry everybody, I didn't realize I wrote a short novel. <img src="http://www.zilvia.net/f/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/smile.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=':)'>
JeffNJ
01-11-2002, 12:59 AM
The 300zx is only available in TT trim or 2+2 seating. One or the other. I couldn't see driving around with friends bitching about small the back seat was, because I'd be all like, "I sacrificed 70hp so you'd have anyplace at all to sit, so shuddup!"
Yeah, I was all about gettin' a 300zx not too long ago. Then my mechanic said I'd never be happy with it, as they have the tendency to require constant maintance. He did say they didn't have major problems, but he knows how nit-picky I am, and I'd just be asking to do stuff constantly.
But, yeah, my point was you can't get a 2+2 TT, so keep that in mind if you're shopping.
240booster
01-11-2002, 01:14 AM
Hey guys wassup, that's my gurlfriend LMAO i kinda think of her as my own S13grl only not as educated yet :-P .... although very eager to learn as u can tell. Neway, she's looking for a new car and can't make up her mind lol she changes it every day. She thinks she's goin to get a Supra ......... LMAO but i don't think it's gonna happen but #### would be sweet if she did :-P. I think she should get a 300zx or a new celica GT-S..... lol o and sorry about all the newbie questions i think i explained most of it to her tonight but thanks for accomodating her. :-)
burgy240
01-11-2002, 08:34 AM
Don't worry, she was cool about it all and more importtantly she wants/ed to learn. thats the best thing. good luck car shopping.
sykikchimp
01-11-2002, 09:57 AM
another Quick note.. the 2003 CL will come in a 6-speed. My roommate just bought an Acura, and the guy he dealt with (very cool guy) said that his boss showed him the invoice for the 2003 models they were purchasing, and said they had 2-3 with 6-speeds in them.
Sounds like a Hella lotta fun. 260 hp I-VTEC with a 6-speed.. OHH YEAH.
/... #### FF cars.. #### them to ####
sykikchimp
01-11-2002, 10:00 AM
on another note.. the Bas model 350Z will have 280-300 hp, and be RWD and only cost just under 27,000 including tax! <img src="http://www.zilvia.net/f/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/smile.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=':)'>
(man I wish.......)
Thank you for all the help you guys I really appreciate it ... Learned quite a bit for one night =)
I used to have a 90 NAZ (3L V6) and I don't know what you guys are all talking about it being a pain to maintain. It was the best hassle free car i ever had...including a few Hondas I've owned. The only reason why I drive a 240SX now is because I need back seats and the 2+2 Z looks weird IMHO. BTW all the Zs have a version of VTEC, they all have variable valve timing....years before VTEC might I ad.
Luv, if you're serious about a Z, you'd best go to www.twinturbo.net Thats my usual hangout and they absolutely can answer all of your questions.
Cheers
JZ
thanks Johnny my bf sent me there last night and told me to read up on em' helped me out some but i think i have done changed my mind again on the 300 ZX thinking now that I want that S15 LoL
240booster
01-12-2002, 01:28 AM
LMAO!!!! C what i mean, She is impossible ...... Lol she changes her mind every five minutes lolololol neway, she said ya even scared her a little about the 300ZX the other night saying that she didn't want one now that ya said it was a hassle to maintain and hard to find parts for ...... come on guys don't be dissing the Nissan's like that!! :-P Neway, If u want an S15 ur goin to have to buy a 240 S14 and convert it to an S15 cause they never made S15's in America. :-)
NOSfEDs12vh45dett
01-12-2002, 03:53 AM
the Z32 is a great performer, get the 2+2(long wheelbase), and TT with Targa tops, my friend had one 650 HP+, make sure that you have more downforce than standard if you go for the TT, or else drive it slow(120 mph), one last thing 17" - 18" by 8" -10", with soft rubber, and you will go places faaaaast.
Ok ok I said 'one final thing' so here's another, Feul economy, now try the Silvia is as quick as the 300zx, if not slightly quicker of the mark, but top end speed will normally go to the 300zx, 240sx if there like 200sx are awesome to drive, try Drifting, it works for me.
DragonReborn214
01-12-2002, 12:22 PM
</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote </td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">Quote: from NOSfEDs12vh45dett on 3:53 am on Jan. 12, 2002
the Z32 is a great performer, get the 2+2(long wheelbase), and TT with Targa tops, my friend had one 650 HP+, make sure that you have more downforce than standard if you go for the TT, or else drive it slow(120 mph), one last thing 17" - 18" by 8" -10", with soft rubber, and you will go places faaaaast.
Ok ok I said 'one final thing' so here's another, Feul economy, now try the Silvia is as quick as the 300zx, if not slightly quicker of the mark, but top end speed will normally go to the 300zx, 240sx if there like 200sx are awesome to drive, try Drifting, it works for me.</td></tr></table><span id='postcolor'>
Im sorry, but this wins my award for most idiotic post of the year.
1st: your friend has a 2+2 NA Z that does 650+? (unless you are non US, that is ridiculous)
2nd: more downforce to go over 120? TTs come with wings that are perfectly enough downforce to do high speeds... Why the #### do you think they put them on there? No big aluminum spoilers please, this isnt f&f.
3rd: Tire size is not going to determine how fast he goes, it is for traction, not HP.
4th: what the #### does fuel economy have to do with your last statement?
5th: I doubt (judging by your ignorantly boastfull nature) that you have ever drifted in your life, unless it was into a curb.
Anyways, I am going for dim sum.
NOSfEDs12vh45dett
01-13-2002, 12:17 AM
Dude I live in New Zealand and we do drift here, fool.
You didn't read my post did you, My friend got a Twin Turbo(TT) 2+2 300zx, dickhead.
And yes I use to drift my last car, rather expensive hobby I might add.
Tires, My point exactly, if want that horse power then you need the rubber, you can never have enought.
Not all 300zx have spoilers here in the NZ, downforce is still a problem.
And For your final comment, yes I have crashed my 200sx at Pukekohe raceway, on the esses.........naff said, and as for my boastfull nature, only to anoy people like you.
mistert
01-13-2002, 01:24 AM
hey v8 powered s12 guy could you answer some quesitons for me maybe, and just giv eme some general 200sx info, maybe shoot me an email? heres a thread i made with some questions
http://www.zilvia.net/forum/topic.cgi?forum=1&topic=2010
"hey v8 powered s12 guy could you answer some quesitons for me maybe, and just giv eme some general 200sx info, maybe shoot me an email? heres a thread i made with some questions"
mistert...
this might help you out some ont he 200SX
http://www.emergent.com.au/200sx/faq200sx.html
not really sure what all you need to know but this is just the basics not really that much here to tell but its a starting point.
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