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sweeper240
04-06-2012, 06:11 PM
I am getting an HKS tuned sr20det notchtop (s14) swapped into my car soon, it comes with an HKS GTRS Turbo, an HKS BOV, an FCON HKS ECU, front mount inter-cooler, Turbo timer, possibly another piece of electronics but I can't remember, and an upgraded HKS fuel pump.

The person doing the swap has advised that I keep my existing mechanical fan rather than using the electric fan because the mechanical fan pushes more air. Is this true?

I've read a little about turbo setups and wanted to know what everyone's opinion was about BOVs exhausting to the atmosphere vs recirculating. In the case of recirculation where should the BOV recirculate to and how much piping is recommended I've heard 8" of pipe before and after the MAF (for the ideal setup). Would it be possible to just recirculate the existing HKS BOV or would I have to get a different valve for this?

The engine/car has been setup to run without an MAF, the ECU apparently is tuned for this and the BOV is setup to exhaust to the atmosphere. Understand that the engine is coming from an HKS USA built s14 (white) that was purchased when they left the USA, so I suppose its been properly tuned for this mode of operation, however I am interested to know what is the most efficient and engine optimum setup. Recirc seems like it is better but harder to accomplish physically, while using FCON ecu with the right programing cures issues that might arise with not recirculating (and eliminates the need for MAF).

Please let me know your thoughts on this. The engine is pretty nice I drove the car the other night (supposed to have around 340hp), I don't really care for the BOV sound... I'd rather it not make that sound but its not going to stop me from putting the engine in my car (1993 s13 hatchback).

Just because recirc is harder to accomplish doesn't mean I wouldn't want to do it, if it was actually superior for the car longevity or some other engineering minded/efficiency factor. Yes I understand that if I have a MAF refitted and recirc the BOV I will have to re-program the FCON ECU (this has been estimated to cost $1000 by Excess).

OLDSCHOOLRICE
04-06-2012, 08:27 PM
If your tuned to run without a MAF you don’t need to recirculate the BOV. The point of recirculating the BOV is to make sure the air that the MAF already measured gets used.

Your car is tuned to run with a MAP sensor (measures pressure in the manifold), and this is after the throttle plate. The air the BOV releases was not measured in the first place.

I have heard pros and cons for MAP and MAP but am unsure, so I won’t comment. If the engine was already built and tuned by HKS though, I probably wouldn’t change it. If you’re worried about the tune, find a reputable tuner and have them look at the tune on the dyno for peace of mind.

As far as the fan goes, the clutch fan is more reliable than MOST peoples electric fan setups. However if wired, shrouded, and sufficient quality/flowing fans are used, electric can be as reliable and possibly better than a clutch fan.

sweeper240
04-07-2012, 01:21 AM
So does that mean the sound I am hearing is not Compressor surge, rather its just artificially created by the HKS BOV? I don't see the point of having something that's just there to make noise. Can the HKS BOV sound be reduced or eliminated?

wrgibson
04-07-2012, 10:21 AM
You're probably just hearing the sound of the BOV. You can recirc that bish to quiet it down a bit...you're still going to hear it though.

usdm180sx
04-07-2012, 04:53 PM
VPro uses a MAP sensor so you don't need to recirculate it. I had the exact same setup on my s14 and made 341whp. I'm also going to tune my s13 blacktop using the VPro. I know several tuners for the VPro so if you have any questions feel free to pm me.

sweeper240
04-08-2012, 02:27 PM
So I decided to get a s14det notchtop instead. its from a 98 spec 2

If anyone needs parts from the front clip that won't be needed in the swap, let me know.

I am replacing the following with new items (therefore the OEM stuff in the front clip is available for sale)
New FMIC
New 3" downpipe
New short shifter
New Koyo Radiator
New clutch
New Flywheel