Cool-spec braces

[Matej]

Hello,
Let us rejoice and compile a list of only the fanciest, most rigid, and quirkiest braces offered for our automobiles. Gotta catch 'em all!




As far as basic strut tower bars go, I think the DC Sports ones are the best, simply because they are one-piece, plus they look cool.
http://www.kurumamotoring.com/image/dcsports/csb1205a.jpg
http://www.kurumamotoring.com/image/dcsports/csb2105a.jpg




GTSpec bars are also neat, but I especially enjoy their trunk and C-pillar braces.
http://www.gtspec.com/sites/default/files/sus-1264-c.jpg
http://www.gtspec.com/sites/default/files/sus-1305-a.jpg

Wish they would make their fender brace for an S13 as well.
http://www.gtspec.com/sites/default/files/gts-sus-1267.jpg




Ultra Racing makes some fancy things that no one else does.
http://www.ultraracing.com.my/vgreenwap/image/model/Nissan/Nissan%20A31%20front%20LAB.jpg
http://www.ultraracing.com.my/vgreenwap/image/Model%20New/Nissan/Silva%20S13/RearARB%20SideBar.jpg

I wonder if the Ultra Racing strut/trunk brace would fit if I also want to use the GTSpec trunk brace.
http://www.ultraracing.com.my/vgreenwap/image/Model%20New/Nissan/Silva%20S13/REAR1.jpg
http://i206.photobucket.com/albums/bb276/prawn_photos/DSC02656.jpg




Moonface roof brace, unfortunately for non-sunroof S13/S14 only.
http://www.rhdjapan.com/media/catalog/product/cache/1/image/5e06319eda06f020e43594a9c230972d/60188/Image/Normal/Image8.jpg




Then of course the Miracle Cross Bar.
http://www.rhdjapan.com/media/catalog/product/cache/1/image/5e06319eda06f020e43594a9c230972d/60629/Image/Normal/Image3.jpg




Cusco triangle.
http://farm6.static.flickr.com/5305/5599033921_5c54bc60df.jpg




Post up any other cool ones please, I am deciding on which ones to waste money on.

[landins13]

DO-LUCK Floor Support Bar - Steel Nissan (http://www.rhdjapan.com/do-luck-steel-floor-support-bar-nissan-55362)

[leung]

Carbing one piece aluminum SB with BMC stopper
http://i92.photobucket.com/albums/l17/driftinspeed/photo-14.jpg

S13 Tomei 3 point strut bar
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v474/mimis_friend/180sx/DSC03087.jpg

Great thread :)

[smellslikecurry]

just picked up one of these uras floor bars

http://www.uras-usa.com/images/FroorReinf.jpg

mounts like the do luck bar seen here:

http://carphotos.cardomain.com/ride_images/1/1282/3361/3204180241_large.jpg

and how can we forget the most awesome cool-spec brace:

http://image.nengun.com/catalogue/350x250/nengun-3213-00-doluck-rear_tension_set.png

[TougeSR20Kid]

+1 for the DC sports strut bars, one piece for the win!

You forgot the nismo power brace, I rock it and like it... Dunno if its worth as much as some places are asking but still cool nonetheless

Nismo Power Brace for S13/S14 - Enjuku Racing Parts, LLC (http://www.enjukuracing.com/products/Nismo-Power-Brace-for-S13%7B47%7DS14.html)

[Flicktitty]

Nissan race shop has the Nismo Power Brace for like $205 Shipped.

[Om1kron]

damn enjuku is charging fools gold for that shit lol it's like 100 bucks and some change at all of the nissan dealerships here.

[Flicktitty]

damn enjuku is charging fools gold for that shit lol it's like 100 bucks and some change at all of the nissan dealerships here.

prices have gone up on them in the last month or two...

[Flicktitty]

What ever happed to Jonnie Fraz with stealth custom fab?

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v635/Fraz-Man-One/SR-20-FSTB-fit.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v635/Fraz-Man-One/HPIM0487.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v635/Fraz-Man-One/S13-RSTB-production-run.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v635/Fraz-Man-One/Rear-strut-brace.jpg

[Matej]

It seems that people with lowered cars always end up smashing the Power Brace into something, and it ends up causing more damage than good.
They should have made it with the connecting bar arched up to better clear obstacles.


and how can we forget the most awesome cool-spec brace:

http://image.nengun.com/catalogue/350x250/nengun-3213-00-doluck-rear_tension_set.png
That is new to me!

[MadScientist]

Do Luck Floor Support Bars
http://www.futuremotorsports.com/images/D/DO%20LUCK%20FLOOR%20SUPPORT%20BARS%202.jpg

Do Luck Front/ Rear Ladder Bar
http://www.yugobernie.com/images/DoLuck_Ladder_Bar/images/DSC00031.jpg

Nagisa Shakkito Plates
http://www.avb-sports.be/files/product_image/1177346876/472%2BXNS0070.JPG

Cusco Side Pillar Bars
http://www.tdi-plc.com/catalog/images/CUSCOPILLBAR.jpg

I have the DC Titanium in my EVO9MR... not big on DC but its Titanium.

[Matej]

501 Works floor things.
http://riri501.com/image/riasi-toba-%20001.jpg
http://riri501.com/image/riasi-toba-%20002.jpg

[ILoveJDM]

uras frame rail extension for 180sx/silvia

http://www.sillbeer.com/images/underneath/exhaust-uras-floorkit.jpg

[mestizo]

What ever happed to Jonnie Fraz with stealth custom fab?


Jonnie is still around and making braces, however we've had issues with getting the laser cut brackets in so production of parts is touch and go at the moment.

[kabukie]

Jonnie is still around and making braces, however we've had issues with getting the laser cut brackets in so production of parts is touch and go at the moment.


I've tried Pm-ing several times with no response? Looking for a Bolt in S13 Tension Brace. He still make those?

[!Zar!]

It seems that people with lowered cars always end up smashing the Power Brace into something, and it ends up causing more damage than good.
They should have made it with the connecting bar arched up to better clear obstacles.!

I wouldn't imagine it being any worse than my swaybar hitting things.

Anyways, a skid plate can help prevent that by covering it up.

[Matej]

A sway bar has some play to it at least, plus it is closer to the front wheels. I just use my sway bar as an oil pan protector. A skid plate is only another thing that sits even lower than everything else, and unless the heads of the mounting bolts are recessed somehow they usually shear which makes the plate a pain to get off.

Something similar to the Tanabe brace but arched up instead of forward would be neat.
http://www.octanemotorsports.com/images/DU1170F.jpg

I am not really too bothered about stiffening the front though.

[SomeoneWhoIsntMe]

How could you forget the ebay special C-pillar brace?

http://farm7.static.flickr.com/6014/6012148609_9c20be69b5.jpg

[Matej]

So far my plan is the DC Sports front strut bar, the Ultra Racing rear strut/trunk brace, and the GTSpec trunk and C-pillar braces. Hopefully the Ultra Racing brace will fit below the GTSpec one. If not, it will be tough deciding which one to get rid of.

Are these things still available, and did they really make a difference?
http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2601/3776586764_3ed23f5698.jpg

[usdm180sx]

Just got a real Next Miracle Cross bar:
http://i24.photobucket.com/albums/c5/ncarpio1/miraclecrossbar.jpg

Cut the privacy cover:
http://i24.photobucket.com/albums/c5/ncarpio1/miraclecrossbarwithcover.jpg

[boost]

i don't know about function or cool but it's more odd bracing you don't see often.

nismo and kts rear member braces
http://www.kts-web.com/overseas/products/body/img/lb_003r.jpg
http://www.nismo.co.jp/en/products/competition/lb/img/brace/img_rmbrace.jpg

and

kts rear member support bars for toe and subframe
http://www.kts-web.com/overseas/products/body/img/rs.jpg
http://www.japaneseimportspares.com.au/catalogue_imgs/152/large/25227KTS%20brace%20S14.JPG

[icedsole]

not a lot of people run the nagisa shakitto plates

here they are on my car, can feel and improvement and helps under hard braking too

http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-QejEANOfJrE/Tkd9Ojanc3I/AAAAAAAAAnc/crggdWcMFm4/s1600/enginebaydone.JPG

i also had nagisa fender braces but i lost them somewhere before i got to install, so i think i am going to go with gt spec.

[va240dude]

I've tried Pm-ing several times with no response? Looking for a Bolt in S13 Tension Brace. He still make those?

Yeah Johnnie is still making them as far as I know. He made me one end of last year. Took a while to get through to him, but when he did everything was perfect and I got it in no time. Fraz makes quality stuff, and I highly recommend him!

[Matej]

What strut bar is this?
http://www.zshop.ca/wp-content/uploads/2011/12/Nagisa-Auto-Shakitto-Plate-Nissan-240sx-S13-89-94.jpg

[landins13]

you dont need to bump this thread.

[rat240]

So far my plan is the DC Sports front strut bar, the Ultra Racing rear strut/trunk brace, and the GTSpec trunk and C-pillar braces. Hopefully the Ultra Racing brace will fit below the GTSpec one. If not, it will be tough deciding which one to get rid of.

Are these things still available, and did they really make a difference?

those subframe bars make a huge difference if you don't have them already

[mestizo]

I've tried Pm-ing several times with no response? Looking for a Bolt in S13 Tension Brace. He still make those?

Yup still makes them... like I said just been on back order cuz of lack of brackets and end plates... but I will let him know that you're looking for that, we are currently in Long Beach for Formula Drift.

[joshchewuhh]

old school cusco strut bar.
http://i1046.photobucket.com/albums/b467/joshchewuhh/DSCF1478.jpg

[EDacIouSX]

so the rear subframe bars make a difference? really? hmmmmmmmmmm.

[MidwestMyriad]

http://i1135.photobucket.com/albums/m625/landrover2011/IMG_0068-1.jpg
http://i1135.photobucket.com/albums/m625/landrover2011/IMG_0113.jpg

[turbo2nr]

i want them all .. must make s14 super ridged!

[burns_rubber]

i talked to gt spec personally and they told me if i can get 15 or more people who want the s13 fender brace they will do the r&d to make them and sell them .. so people start putting a pool up on facebook or some where , where they can see it so gt spec can start making them for us.... 15 people not that many compared to how many people there r on the forum

[rb25crazy]

damnnnn these braces are $$$ lol... can someone start making these at godspeed prices ^_^ i'll buy

[mikeys13]

And how much money?

[e5s4y]

i talked to gt spec personally and they told me if i can get 15 or more people who want the s13 fender brace they will do the r&d to make them and sell them .. so people start putting a pool up on facebook or some where , where they can see it so gt spec can start making them for us.... 15 people not that many compared to how many people there r on the forum

since it might take a while to get everyone together for this, id love to be down for this (gives me time to get some cash together)

price for group buy?

[hOngsterr]

cool facts.

i just bought tc brace and fender bracing from jonnie, installed them too fit lie a charm, only issue i had, i msged johnny about his tc braces, later on ill buy the front and rear strut bars, but heres some a bit of useful information.

Nissan 240SX Performance Modification/Chassis Strengthening - Wikibooks, open books for an open world (http://en.wikibooks.org/wiki/Nissan_240SX_Performance_Modification/Chassis_Strengthening)

i bracing i have on my car are all knock off good quality.

fender/tc brace - jonnie
front/rear strut bar - generic
c-pillar bar/"RPS" bottom brace - joels "xpertsnowcraver"

https://fbcdn-sphotos-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-prn1/545778_379994035364632_100000621159927_1175144_586 068670_n.jpg
https://fbcdn-sphotos-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-ash3/542627_379994188697950_100000621159927_1175147_157 8388807_n.jpg

jonnies tc brace is actually higher kinda matching with the sway bar

https://fbcdn-sphotos-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-prn1/540202_379994282031274_100000621159927_1175148_903 933079_n.jpg

dont have pics of my other custom ones lol

[shaggy sr]

i want bars for my s14. lmk!

[Matej]

i talked to gt spec personally and they told me if i can get 15 or more people who want the s13 fender brace they will do the r&d to make them and sell them .. so people start putting a pool up on facebook or some where , where they can see it so gt spec can start making them for us.... 15 people not that many compared to how many people there r on the forum
Would they use the existing hole, instead of requiring new holes to be drilled? If so, sign me up.


Someone should replicate the RPS subframe braces. In fact, I am surprised no one has yet. It is a really simple part that would sell quite well.

[chiboy002]

koguchi had this awesome one-off trans tunnel brace

Do-Luck has a trans tunnel brace as well

[tacotacotaco]

http://www.autech.co.jp/HISTORY-SV/S14S01/p10_s.jpg
http://www.autech.co.jp/HISTORY-SV/S14S01/p11_s.jpg

some cool autech pieces

[lflkajfj12123]

so the rear subframe bars make a difference? really? hmmmmmmmmmm.

honestly most braces i've encountered work really well

when the chassis flexes less it allows for the suspension to do all the work

cusco has a video of it on their site... i think of a strut tower bar and compared to the movement of the shock

[MadScientist]

rename this threat "Every which way but Flex"

[MidwestMyriad]

King
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v703/Mrfairlady/Kouki%20180sx/180under.jpg

[ixfxi]

a lot of these braces are iffy

its dousan said WAY back in the day, better off stitch-welding / rollcage than installing all these bullshit braces - very honda-esque.

i do have the gtr subframe braces though. :P

[lflkajfj12123]

dousan also didn't drive his car on the street

i don't weld nor would i pay someone to stitch weld my car

full bolt in roll cages are really cool on a street car but prob something i don't see myself buying either

bolt on bars look cool and offer some of the same benefits as the stitch welded option

[CamryOnBronze]

Tanabe Fender Brace:

http://farm6.staticflickr.com/5344/6906108814_eed8312d65_z.jpg

NeXt Miracle Cross Brace, Cusco 6 point cage & Cusco add-on bar:

http://farm7.staticflickr.com/6154/6164297129_491047299c_z.jpg

[Fred Allen Burge]

I think if I made a bar to connect any two random points on my S13 I could sell them on here as long as someone said it "made a difference", hmm....

[lflkajfj12123]

are you some kind of genius?

[Brian]

bolting in a bunch of shit is the coolest.
best thread here. Posi-rep to you.

[ixfxi]

bolting in a bunch of shit is the coolest.
best thread here. Posi-rep to you.

brian, you cant give rep anymore...

dumb fuck. that was 1996, back when people bought your stickers.




just kidding, we're friends... HIGH FIIIIVE


i don't weld nor would i pay someone to stitch weld my car

exactly. once again you've proved to us that you have a vagina.

['97 S14 SE Turbo]

Moonface roof brace, unfortunately for non-sunroof S13/S14 only.
http://www.rhdjapan.com/media/catalog/product/cache/1/image/5e06319eda06f020e43594a9c230972d/60188/Image/Normal/Image8.jpg

Great way to have a literal splitting headache...

[corry29]

usdm180sx, I love what you did with the privacy cover with the Miracle!
You gave me a lot to think about now! Haha

Here's mine.
http://i145.photobucket.com/albums/r204/cwang29/IMG_0214.jpg

[Cedarcbr]

Are these things still available, and did they really make a difference?
http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2601/3776586764_3ed23f5698.jpg[/QUOTE]

K so i payed for these things like 2 yrs ago and i got shafted by this guy, wouldnt answer the phone or anything. anyone else heard anything on this????

[ILoveMyRHS13]

Are these things still available, and did they really make a difference?

K so i payed for these things like 2 yrs ago and i got shafted by this guy, wouldnt answer the phone or anything. anyone else heard anything on this????
I got mine. Pretty noticeable difference, but not mind-blowing like he promised.

[Cedarcbr]

well thats fucked, i never did see mine or hear from the guy, i know its a lame thing to bitch about but still a little bitter. lol

[corry29]

I hope someone is able to answer this and hope my post/question doesn't get ignored,

Basically this is the whole Miracle bar set.
http://i145.photobucket.com/albums/r204/cwang29/289646_132052220217444_131470843608915_229820_1988 449_o.jpg

Does anyone happen know if I can just run the upper bar and the lower bar as a simple C pillar bar and rear strut bar without the Miracle crossbar?

[usdm180sx]

I hope someone is able to answer this and hope my post/question doesn't get ignored,

Does anyone happen know if I can just run the upper bar and the lower bar as a simple C pillar bar and rear strut bar without the Miracle crossbar?

Thanks for the compliment. You could but there would be no triangulation which is the ideal way to stiffen up the chassis.

[MadScientist]

Great way to have a literal splitting headache...

If your 6'4"...

[corry29]

Thanks for the compliment. You could but there would be no triangulation which is the ideal way to stiffen up the chassis.

I see, so basically it will be the same/function like any other car with just a two piece simple rear strut bar and c pillar bar?

[shalezzz]

well thats fucked, i never did see mine or hear from the guy, i know its a lame thing to bitch about but still a little bitter. lol

i feel the same exact way! it was only 50 bucks but i was broke back then lol

[ixfxi]

Great way to have a literal splitting headache...

TY........ did you ever finish your car?

['97 S14 SE Turbo]

If your 6'4"...

Doesn't matter in an accident... Still a great way to split one's head open...

[lflkajfj12123]

well good thing a roof brace is absolutely pointless and no one would ever buy that

derp

['97 S14 SE Turbo]

Just a PSA. There are people out there that doesn't get it. Even the Do-Luck Tension Gage/cage is at risk of causing secondary impact injury in an accident.

Same goes for folks that drive with a halo bar/full cage without a helmet.

[Brian]

One time I got killed by my Safety21 cage.

Came back to life though.
dope.

[MidwestMyriad]

Can I purchase said cage?

[usdm180sx]

One time I got killed by my Safety21 cage.

Came back to life though.
dope.

Pics or it didn't happpen

[ZAKU]

Tanabe Fender Brace:

http://farm6.staticflickr.com/5344/6906108814_eed8312d65_z.jpg



This looks TERRIBLE, how thin is that metal?

[dazed]

Just picked up a BNIB Do-Luck rear cross bar. It's for an S13. Anyone reckon it will fit an S14? I'm going to play around with it regardless.

[MadScientist]

well good thing a roof brace is absolutely pointless and no one would ever buy that

derp

But its MoonFace and I like it..... :ughd:

[Matej]

Who makes cool-spec S13 fender braces that are low car friendly?

That Tanabe one does seem weak and useless since it is not triangulated, and most of the other braces I have seen look as if the tires would hit them on a low car.
How is the clearance on the Stealth Fab brace?

[codyace]

Are these things still available, and did they really make a difference?
http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2601/3776586764_3ed23f5698.jpg

Home Depot, get a piece of steel in the hardware section, cut it to size, drill two holes...done. Or even goto your local fab/metal shop they may even give you scraps that you could use.

[codyace]

How is the clearance on the Stealth Fab brace?

The Fraz/Stealth fender brace fits awesome...in fact I have his Single piece upper strut brace with BMC stopper, and his front lower tension brace, all fit perfectly, overkill (good) in regard to construction, and came quickly. I'd suggest his bars to ANYONE. Sure they aren't pretty blue or green, but you can always paint them :D

[dazed]

My little contribution:

http://www4.picturepush.com/photo/a/7874432/480/Picture-Box/DSC-0778.jpg?v0

Carbing rear bar. Stupid long wait on it. Ebay special c-pillar as well.



Also as previously posted, I test fitted the S13 Do-Luck bar, and it doesn't fit.

So I'm putting it up for sale:

http://www2.picturepush.com/photo/a/7990440/1024/Picture-Box/IMG-0470.jpg

http://zilvia.net/f/sale-items/446351-new-do-luck-s13-rear-cross-bar-rare.html

[codyace]

I don't think any of the rear cross braces fit well. I had to modify the crap out of mine to make it work.

[dazed]

Well it was just a matter of me trying to put an S13 bar on an S14. I'm sure it will fit fine in the correct chassis.

[codyace]

Well it was just a matter of me trying to put an S13 bar on an S14. I'm sure it will fit fine in the correct chassis.

Which is funny as my bar that I modded for my s14, I gave to my good buddy and he only had to redrill the main hole to fit his s13 ...then again mine was a wacky off brand ebay one that I had won so who knows if the real deal ones would have made a difference.

[Matej]

Sure they aren't pretty blue or green, but you can always paint them :D
All my braces will be color-matched to the car anyway. Already painted over the lovely GTSpec and DC Sports colours. :)

[codyace]

All my braces will be color-matched to my car anyway. Already painted over the lovely GTSpec and DC Sports colours. :)

:s101:

How's the GTSpec stuff fit BTW?

[smellslikecurry]

gt spec stuff fits perrrrrrrrfectly

[Matej]

:s101:

How's the GTSpec stuff fit BTW?
Only have the trunk brace, but it fits great. I plan to get the C-pillar bar in the future.

Still deciding whether I should order the Ultra Racing rear strut/trunk thing and hope it will fit under the GTSpec trunk brace, or just settle for a regular strut bar, either DC Sports or Stealth Fab.
http://i60.photobucket.com/albums/h27/mutto_101/DSC00287.jpg
http://i60.photobucket.com/albums/h27/mutto_101/SANY0038.jpg

I guess I could put hardened fender washers under the GTSpec brace if needed.

[sinnerstar]

Any know what make this floor brace is I have in my skyline. Its like the normal b-pillar braces that run along the floor behind the front seats but it also has two side intrusion type bars and two smaller bars that tie into the rear inner seat mounts on the tunnel the ones that have studs not bolts. Not the best photo I know but its all I've got at the moment.
http://dsd32.files.wordpress.com/2010/04/dsc_0481.jpg?w=900
Kind of like this but with the added bars
http://i177.photobucket.com/albums/w215/EVLTTWN/My%20Supra%20build/Maximaforum/17%20update/fcc1e559.jpg

['97 S14 SE Turbo]

Well it was just a matter of me trying to put an S13 bar on an S14. I'm sure it will fit fine in the correct chassis.

S14 RXB has a different end plate design compared to the S13 RXB end plate.

[az_240]

I don't think any of the rear cross braces fit well. I had to modify the crap out of mine to make it work.

What did you have to modify? My DoLuck bar fit fine on my s14.


I didn't notice much of a difference until I added these things
http://i12.photobucket.com/albums/a229/livinglegendlll/ImportedPhotos00000-2.jpg

Seat feels solid now.

[MidwestMyriad]

Wait, why does your RXB not have the metal Do-Luck emblem? Or am I just not seeing it? (DaZeD)

[codyace]

What did you have to modify? My DoLuck bar fit fine on my s14.


I didn't notice much of a difference until I added these things
http://i12.photobucket.com/albums/a229/livinglegendlll/ImportedPhotos00000-2.jpg

Seat feels solid now.


I had to modify the end plates, and by modify I mean cut the bar off them, re orient them, and then reweld the bars back to them. Again It may be becuase it was a Dubeloz (spelling) knock off from a while back (We're talking 5+ years easily).

I didn't have those slick little middle parts (great idea BTW), but I did tension the crap out of the bar and it seemed to make a difference...which is funny as it seems like it would be more of a cool guy brace than anything.

Wait, why does your RXB not have the metal Do-Luck emblem? Or am I just not seeing it? (DaZeD)

I've had a lot of products that didn't look anything like their pictures, including the Tomei Oil Pan...you'd think it wasn't even from them.

[MadScientist]

I have Tomei Oil Pan... what you talk'n bout Willis?

[CamryOnBronze]

This looks TERRIBLE, how thin is that metal?

The metal isn't thin IMO. It seemed like it would make a difference based purely on installation alone, but what do I know. I just bought them because they were COOL SPEC BRACES. :coolugh:

[kabukie]

Yup still makes them... like I said just been on back order cuz of lack of brackets and end plates... but I will let him know that you're looking for that, we are currently in Long Beach for Formula Drift.

Awesome. I've sent him another PM, so please let him know. I bought a Cusco Tension brace for the time being, but I would rather have his product.

[MidwestMyriad]

Who makes cool-spec S13 fender braces that are low car friendly?


The Nams/Nagisa ones have plenty of clearance. I have had no rubbing issues ever.


I didn't notice much of a difference until I added these things
http://i12.photobucket.com/albums/a229/livinglegendlll/ImportedPhotos00000-2.jpg


^Are those bolted through the floor? Or just adding upward tension by pushing the bar up?^

Celly drop..
http://i1135.photobucket.com/albums/m625/landrover2011/IMG_0405.jpg

Here's the badge...
http://i1135.photobucket.com/albums/m625/landrover2011/IMG_0404.jpg
http://i1135.photobucket.com/albums/m625/landrover2011/IMG_0403.jpg

[chiboy002]

King
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v703/Mrfairlady/Kouki%20180sx/180under.jpg
yeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee

[Z_Spool]

What strut bar is this?
http://www.zshop.ca/wp-content/uploads/2011/12/Nagisa-Auto-Shakitto-Plate-Nissan-240sx-S13-89-94.jpg

Really dig this brace... a lot.

Kinda want to powdercoat mine... not sure that I like it matching the VC/Exterior paint. Maybe a little contrast would be good.

http://a5.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-snc6/259175_216344771730751_100000656883164_721554_5240 59_o.jpg

[dazed]

Wait, why does your RXB not have the metal Do-Luck emblem? Or am I just not seeing it? (DaZeD)

From what I've read there are two generations of the real RXB.

OG ones like yours had metal plate, even harder to find due to age. Second versions just came with stickers.

And the knockoffs have only 1 adjustable ring thing, and some goofy plaque.

I wish they made the MXB for the 14... One of my all time fav's, I'd jump on that in a second.

[lflkajfj12123]

The Nams/Nagisa ones have plenty of clearance. I have had no rubbing issues ever.



^Are those bolted through the floor? Or just adding upward tension by pushing the bar up?^

Celly drop..
http://i1135.photobucket.com/albums/m625/landrover2011/IMG_0405.jpg

Here's the badge...
http://i1135.photobucket.com/albums/m625/landrover2011/IMG_0404.jpg
http://i1135.photobucket.com/albums/m625/landrover2011/IMG_0403.jpg

so much jdm brand synergy

[az_240]

(RXB Pic)

^Are those bolted through the floor? Or just adding upward tension by pushing the bar up?^



I had to drill holes into the trans tunnel/floor... basically bolts the bar to the floor making the seat feel solid over bumps at higher speeds. No more trans tunnel flex. IIRC they are called RXB stabilizers.

DC front strut bar and Shakitto plates also made a nice difference when I had them. Bolt on fender braces and ebay style strut bars never work for me... if you can bend the brace/bar/whatever by hand it probably won't do shit on your car.


I had to modify the end plates, and by modify I mean cut the bar off them, re orient them, and then reweld the bars back to them. Again It may be becuase it was a Dubeloz (spelling) knock off from a while back (We're talking 5+ years easily).


Ah Dubeloz.... that explains it.

[Jonnie Fraz]

Did someone say Jonnie Fraz? Sorry guys I have been trying to stay above water, but I am losing...lol.
Here is a pic of a recent fab day.
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v635/Fraz-Man-One/More-braces.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v635/Fraz-Man-One/SCF002.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v635/Fraz-Man-One/SCF004.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v635/Fraz-Man-One/SCF003.jpg

[Razi]

Damn, I want those.

[dudermagee]

Did someone say Jonnie Fraz? Sorry guys I have been trying to stay above water, but I am losing...lol.
Here is a pic of a recent fab day.
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v635/Fraz-Man-One/More-braces.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v635/Fraz-Man-One/SCF002.jpg[/IG]

[IMG]http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v635/Fraz-Man-One/SCF004.jpg

[IMG]http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v635/Fraz-Man-One/SCF003.jpg[/IG]

This guy is awesome, you buy his stuff now!

[codyace]

Ah Dubeloz.... that explains it.

Again, it wasn't something I purchased, but man it was way off. I guess for the price it's a small price to pay. At the time, you may as well have asked for a free rocket ride to Venus before finding a real Do-Luck piece. Either way I took it out after putting a roll cage in it anyway.

[MidwestMyriad]

I had to drill holes into the trans tunnel/floor... basically bolts the bar to the floor making the seat feel solid over bumps at higher speeds. No more trans tunnel flex. IIRC they are called RXB stabilizers.


Wait. Those "stabilizers" are Do-Luck pieces?! My interest has grown exponentially.

[Herro]

What strut bar is this?
http://www.zshop.ca/wp-content/uploads/2011/12/Nagisa-Auto-Shakitto-Plate-Nissan-240sx-S13-89-94.jpg

Skimmed thru the thread and I'm not sure if this has been answered yet...but its a guy on Nicoclub who made it:

S13 Front Strut / Firewall Brace : Fabricators' Market - Page 14 (http://forums.nicoclub.com/s13-front-strut-firewall-brace-t270421-400.html)

[!Zar!]

Putting a Nismo Power Brace on my car made a pretty huge difference with tension rods.

Maybe I'll grab some of Jonny Fraz's versions to show a fellow norcaller some love.

[az_240]

Wait. Those "stabilizers" are Do-Luck pieces?! My interest has grown exponentially.

Yes... this is the thread I got them from... painted them black. Pretty good deal I'd say.

http://zilvia.net/f/sale-items/195508-do-luck-rxb-immobilizer-stabilizer.html

I think I saw these on RHDJapan a while back

[dazed]

Damn. Props, I honestly didn't think those were Do-Luck, but I was sure wrong. Those are ill.

[ManoNegra]

Damn. Props, I honestly didn't think those were Do-Luck, but I was sure wrong. Those are ill.

Do-Luck are the original braces you see replicas of on ebay and other places. Those are hit or miss.

['97 S14 SE Turbo]

Don't know where my RXB is now. Sold it to some kid in Az, and now it's still probably kicking around on it's 3rd or 4th owner. Still got the wrench for it.

Wished I had the RXB stabilizer when I still was running the RXB. That was one of the things that I was looking for then.

In the end, sold the RXB to make room for a 4 point cage. The difference in chassis feel was nil. Without either, the chassis felt like wet noodle...

[rb25crazy]

Nissan Silvia S14 Side Lower Bar / Side Floor Bar UR-SD3-855 (http://www.ultraracing.com.my/Bars.asp?ID=3571)

Nissan Silvia S14 Front Lower Bar / Front Member Brace UR-LA4-854 (http://www.ultraracing.com.my/Bars.asp?ID=3570)

Nissan Silvia S14 Rear Lower Bar / Rear Member Brace UR-RL8-621P (http://www.ultraracing.com.my/Bars.asp?ID=3572)

does anyone own these? and do these acutally do anything? considering picking them up, but wanted to know if these make a real difference.

[bladetech8]

so the rear subframe bars make a difference? really? hmmmmmmmmmm.

There is a bad reputation going around on those rear lower subframe braces for our cars, but believe it or not, it does make a difference.. A lot of people dismiss it as useless without even doing much research into it. I will tell you though, the ebay style ones with the floppy ends are pure junk.. Only GT-SPEC makes a legit solid piece design from what know for that subframe brace.

What they do is assist in stiffening the weakest part of the subframe (rear) to lessen the distortion of the lower suspension arms, especially during corner exits while putting the power down.. If they were truly useless, then why did NISSAN decide to spend money by installing them on S15 Spec-R's? yeah that's right, S15 Spec-R's have rear lower tie bar/subframe brace (middle pic) from the factory as well as a trunk brace and a front ladder bar. Nissan deemed those parts of the chassis could use some extra strengthening/bracing, so that's more than a good enough reason for me to put them on my S13. :)

http://www.jdm-option.com/eng/feature/05_10/img/body_img03a.jpg

[Matej]

From what I understood, I believe he meant these subframe bars. :)

http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2601/3776586764_3ed23f5698.jpg

[95KA-Turbo]

Sorry for the small picture...but I have URAS fender braces:

http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2788/4093556981_ebfa8bb78b.jpg


My skid plate is 1/8" stainless steel and mounts to my front subframe, tension rod brackets, and the front cross bar of the car and it made a massive difference in how the front end feels:


http://knoop.sumospeed.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/06/skid-plate-1.jpg

http://knoop.sumospeed.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/06/skid-plate-2.jpg

[Kk_kalina]

where is everyone getting there miracle cross bars i cant find them

[onehundredoctane]

At what point do you just cage the car instead of adding a tone of braces?

[bladetech8]

From what I understood, I believe he meant these subframe bars. :)

http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2601/3776586764_3ed23f5698.jpg

If that's the case.. DOH! :duh: lol


My honest opinion on those are that they work for certain setups. For example, I have solid aluminum subframe bushings pressed in, so I don't know if some beefier subframe stabilizers/braces would do anything for a subframe that doesn't shift around to begin with.. I can see those being useful for anyone with non-solid subframe bushings though, since it can help in preventing a sloppy subframe from shifting forward/backward and left/right a little better. Regardless, I wouldn't mind having a pair of those on my car :)

[bladetech8]

At what point do you just cage the car instead of adding a tone of braces?

When you don't want your car to be street legal anymore. Cage's are a terrible idea for the street, unless you plan to wear a helmet at all times.. Unless your talking about a rear half-cage.. Then I can see that being ok, but I believe its still too much of a cop magnet, along with open DP's and massive wings.. lol :)

[Matej]

Sorry for the small picture...but I have URAS fender braces:

http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2788/4093556981_ebfa8bb78b.jpg
It seems that the Uras, Tanabe, Cusco, and et cetera fender braces are all the same part, just painted different colours.
The S14 version looks a bit better than the S13 one.

[edmorl]

Did someone say Jonnie Fraz? Sorry guys I have been trying to stay above water, but I am losing...lol.
Here is a pic of a recent fab day.



do your s13 tension rod braces fit with a sikky sway bar ?

[Z_Spool]

where is everyone getting there miracle cross bars i cant find them

HondaTech Classifieds...





Trololololol





... but seriously.

[onehundredoctane]

When you don't want your car to be street legal anymore. Cage's are a terrible idea for the street, unless you plan to wear a helmet at all times.. Unless your talking about a rear half-cage.. Then I can see that being ok, but I believe its still too much of a cop magnet, along with open DP's and massive wings.. lol :)

Yeah a half cage would work. Door bars are a pain to get in and out of.

[future]

Did someone say Jonnie Fraz? Sorry guys I have been trying to stay above water, but I am losing...lol.
Here is a pic of a recent fab day.
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v635/Fraz-Man-One/More-braces.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v635/Fraz-Man-One/SCF002.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v635/Fraz-Man-One/SCF004.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v635/Fraz-Man-One/SCF003.jpg



I would PM you but i'm pinked and can only post after a mod reads it. But i want to buy that nismo powerbrace look alike. How much? And where can i buy it

[projectslider]

were can i get that ultra rear 4 point strut bar for the hatch?! cant
seem to find it!! shiiet!

[bladetech8]

I don't think any of the rear cross braces fit well. I had to modify the crap out of mine to make it work.

They fit perfectly Cody! I have an authentic 180SX/S13 Do-Luck RXB installed in my S13 hatch and its bolts on perfectly. You cannot use the USDM Automatic seat belts though because right where the hump of the RXB begins, it hits the shoulder belt retracting things bolted to the transmission tunnel near where the rear passenger's feet go.. You may have been using either an S14 one (which doesn't fit) or some knock-off product with subpar build quality. (edit) Noticed you mentioned you got some eBay version.. :) Sorry my bad lol..


By the way, the Do-Luck RXB has completely eliminated any creaking in my doors and in my pop-up sunroof. I definitely recommend it or any other floor bar, esp in an S13. :)



Here's some pictures of my Do-Luck RXB I purchased a while back!

Unpackaged:
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v616/milky_dude8/Do-LuckRearCrossBar-Packaged.jpg

Painted and Assembled:
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v616/milky_dude8/Do-LuckRearCrossBar-UnpackagedPainted.jpg

Installed:
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v616/milky_dude8/Do-LuckRearCrossBar-Installed.jpg

[daftphunk]

so much jdm brand synergy

dat brand synergy

[bladetech8]

:s101:

How's the GTSpec stuff fit BTW?

Another company's braces that I also HIGHLY recommend are the GT-Spec C-Pillar bar and Trunk Brace.. Completely solid bars with excellent fitment and no cheap/weak eBay-styled floppy end pieces.. Those two bars have REALLY tightened up the rear end of my hatchback's chassis to to the point where I no longer get ANY more hatch creaking driving up driveways..

I strongly recommend the GT-Spec C-Pillar Brace, Trunk Brace and Do-Luck RXB in your S13 ESPECIALLY if its a hatchback. Chasiss flex has been greatly reduced. :)



GT-Spec C-Pillar Brace:
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v616/milky_dude8/GTSPECC-PillarBrace-Packaged.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v616/milky_dude8/GTSPECC-PillarBrace-UnpackagedPainted.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v616/milky_dude8/GTSPECC-PillarBrace-Installed.jpg


GT-Spec Trunk Brace:
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v616/milky_dude8/GTSPECTrunkFloorBrace-Packaged.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v616/milky_dude8/GTSPECTrunkFloorBrace-Painted.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v616/milky_dude8/GTSPECTrunkFloorBrace-Installed.jpg

[bladetech8]

Yeah a half cage would work. Door bars are a pain to get in and out of.

Yeah I totally agree with you 100% lol.. Damn door bars.

[bladetech8]

Only have the trunk brace, but it fits great. I plan to get the C-pillar bar in the future.

Still deciding whether I should order the Ultra Racing rear strut/trunk thing and hope it will fit under the GTSpec trunk brace, or just settle for a regular strut bar, either DC Sports or Stealth Fab.
http://i60.photobucket.com/albums/h27/mutto_101/DSC00287.jpg
http://i60.photobucket.com/albums/h27/mutto_101/SANY0038.jpg

I guess I could put hardened fender washers under the GTSpec brace if needed.

Both the GT-Spec trunk brace and Ultra Racing rear strut/trunk bar will not fit.. The GT-Spec trunk brace occupies the same space where the back of that UR brace bolts down in the trunk..

My honest opinion and recommendation is to run the GT-Spec trunk brace and a solid-end piece designed rear strut bar like Stealth Custom Fab, (I have one and its fucking awesome) DC Sports, Carbing ($$$) or Ultra Racing.

Stealth Custom Fab is my best recommendation, helping a local fabricator is always a good thing, esp when he makes some really strong (maybe overkill) bars! :D

[Jonnie Fraz]

Stealth Custom Fab is my best recommendation, helping a local fabricator is always a good thing, esp when he makes some really strong (maybe overkill) bars! :D

Thank You!

Here is a fun custom one I did...
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v635/Fraz-Man-One/tow-hook-2.jpg
BMC stopper, and a tow hook through the hood.

[Style]

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v616/milky_dude8/GTSPECTrunkFloorBrace-Packaged.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v616/milky_dude8/GTSPECTrunkFloorBrace-Painted.jpg

what color is that top one? looks similar to the MFR hatchback roof brace. also is the "GT-Spec" a sticker or a plate. id like to get rid of that name ASAP, shits lame, but nice product tho

[Irresistible]

Love stealth custom stuff. Got the TC brace and it made a HUGE difference. Will definitely be picking up the front strut bar, and fender braces whenever I get some spare cash.

[JoshJonezzz]

Thank You!

Here is a fun custom one I did...
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v635/Fraz-Man-One/tow-hook-2.jpg
BMC stopper, and a tow hook through the hood.



How could one go about getting one? I love this

[Om1kron]

Think really hard before adding a tow hook to an easily accessible part of your daily drivers. just saying. There is a similar 3 piece bar that can be interchanged with a normal side when not at a track day. I need to add some accessible/removable tow points to my car.

I really like your bars btw JF!

[bladetech8]

Think really hard before adding a tow hook to an easily accessible part of your daily drivers. just saying. There is a similar 3 piece bar that can be interchanged with a normal side when not at a track day. I need to add some accessible/removable tow points to my car.

I really like your bars btw JF!


lol.. I would say the front & rear stock tow hooks are already pretty easily accessible.. If someone's going to tow your car, I'd assume they would just hook shit up to your axles or anywhere. Having a tow hook exposed like that isn't going to really make it 'that' much more easier to take off with it.. idk maybe it would lol.. Then again I could have misunderstood what your statement above. Either way, I'm sure that's for a track car of some sort. :D

[Om1kron]

I'm pretty sure putting a tow hook right on your shock tower sticking out of your hood so I can nonchalantly rig your car for a tow rather than look like I'm doing something suspicious like leaning under it is what I meant.

I've gotten my car towed 3 times, each time it has taken the tow guy at least 20-40 minute to load the car into a flatbed, I cannot be traditionally towed.

[bladetech8]

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v616/milky_dude8/GTSPECTrunkFloorBrace-Packaged.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v616/milky_dude8/GTSPECTrunkFloorBrace-Painted.jpg

what color is that top one? looks similar to the MFR hatchback roof brace. also is the "GT-Spec" a sticker or a plate. id like to get rid of that name ASAP, shits lame, but nice product tho

The top one is the original GT-Spec pearl blue, bottom one is the same brace, but I painted it flat white.. The color is kind of a pearly blue with a sheen of sea-foam green in it at certain angles of light.. lol.. The GT-Spec logo is a plate and it actually looks better in person.. But It is removable if you do not like it.. I don't mind at all personally :)

[bladetech8]

I'm pretty sure putting a tow hook right on your shock tower sticking out of your hood so I can nonchalantly rig your car for a tow rather than look like I'm doing something suspicious like leaning under it is what I meant.

I've gotten my car towed 3 times, each time it has taken the tow guy at least 20-40 minute to load the car into a flatbed, I cannot be traditionally towed.


Fair enough.. I guess some bro's in a diesel truck can just come snag the car up pretty quick like that lol.

I've been lucky to only require a tow once, and without a flat-bed with the pivot in the middle of the bed, there really is no way my 240 can be easily towed.. :)

[3411]

yea im sure lots would love stelth fab bars

[zerodameaon]

I'm pretty sure putting a tow hook right on your shock tower sticking out of your hood so I can nonchalantly rig your car for a tow rather than look like I'm doing something suspicious like leaning under it is what I meant.

I've gotten my car towed 3 times, each time it has taken the tow guy at least 20-40 minute to load the car into a flatbed, I cannot be traditionally towed.

If someone is stealing your car and they have it running they are just going to get a running start at the flatbed and be gone in 5min.

On a on topic note i want the Ultra Racing side bars. I think that would help alot with a vert seeing as the lack of roof is a issue.

[Levan. B]

Another company's braces that I also HIGHLY recommend are the GT-Spec C-Pillar bar and Trunk Brace.. Completely solid bars with excellent fitment and no cheap/weak eBay-styled floppy end pieces.. Those two bars have REALLY tightened up the rear end of my hatchback's chassis to to the point where I no longer get ANY more hatch creaking driving up driveways..

I strongly recommend the GT-Spec C-Pillar Brace, Trunk Brace and Do-Luck RXB in your S13 ESPECIALLY if its a hatchback. Chasiss flex has been greatly reduced. :)






Can the GT SPEC C pillar brace be installed without it touching the C pillar plastic?

[dtfdanyo]

I love my gtspec strut bar. So thick and rigid ;)

http://i452.photobucket.com/albums/qq246/dtfdanyo/20111227-180957.jpg

[smellslikecurry]

So thick and rigid ;)

thats what she said.

gt spec is great. the finish is ridiculous.

[kyles1988]

Can the GT SPEC C pillar brace be installed without it touching the C pillar plastic?


What kind of touching are you worried about?

GTSpec C-Pillar bar and Cusco OS RSTB (it's for sale btw). I tried modifying the GTSpec bar to work with my miracle cross bar but it wasn't happening. I want that full set of miracle bars so bad.

http://images58.fotki.com/v612/photos/2/47612/9786173/photo-vi.jpg

RP Sport Subframe braces can barely be seen in this pic. They look the same as the ones already shown though, just a simple metal strap that was fairly thick

http://images12.fotki.com/v252/photos/2/47612/8411376/IMG_9981-vi.jpg

[Brian]

I had all the GT Spec stuff on my 180sx.

I don't like non JDM parts on my cars, but I ditched my Cusco stuff for GT Spec because it was so cool.

[Levan. B]

What kind of touching are you worried about?



I was going to ask you about it Kyle but I forgot. I was just wondering if it rested on the plastic pillar cover at all when it's tightened down or if it had a bit of spacing away from it. follow me?

[omgRWDgoodness!]

GT Spec makes some quality stuff! I've wanted their front+rear STBs and fender braces for my S14 for a while now. Those will be my next purchases next month or so after I fix my RB, along with some sway bars to accompany.

They also make a nice-looking SR exhaust manifold and turbo outlet:
http://www.gtspec.com/sites/default/files/sr20det-header.jpg

http://www.gtspec.com/sites/default/files/s14-turbooutlet.jpg

[bladetech8]

Can the GT SPEC C pillar brace be installed without it touching the C pillar plastic?

Yeah of course, It attached to the rear seat belt brackets found on the 91-93 240SX's.. :cool:

[Levan. B]

Yeah of course, It attached to the rear seat belt brackets found on the 91-93 240SX's.. :cool:

Shit. I put 89-90 panels in there. it's a 93 so it did have them -_- now i would have to swap the panels to put those brackets on. It doesn't bolt up without the brackets?

[codyace]

I had all the GT Spec stuff on my 180sx.

I don't like non JDM parts on my cars, but I ditched my Cusco stuff for GT Spec because it was so cool.

Interesting to note, as I always dismissed GT Spec as another ebay brand...admittantly I 'assumed' this and should have looked into them before passing judgement.

[bladetech8]

Shit. I put 89-90 panels in there. it's a 93 so it did have them -_- now i would have to swap the panels to put those brackets on. It doesn't bolt up without the brackets?

No it does not bolt up without those black metal brackets on each side, but the plastic c-pillar trim panels don't really matter since you can cut out the section you need to install the black metal brackets on the 89-90 c-pillar trim. These black metal brackets that bolt directly to the c-pillar of the chassis, are originally used to mount the 91-93 rear shoulder-belt assemblies.. The GT-Spec C-Pillar brace bolts onto those black metal brackets, but you cannot have both the c-pillar brace and the 91-93 rear shoulder-belts obviously since they both occupy the same space.

Just for your reference the black metal brakets I speak of look like this: http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y149/srh_rider_125/securedownload.jpg

[bladetech8]

Interesting to note, as I always dismissed GT Spec as another ebay brand...admittantly I 'assumed' this and should have looked into them before passing judgement.

lol I don't blame you with a name like 'GT-Spec' :)

[Levan. B]

No it does not bolt up without those black metal brackets on each side, but the plastic c-pillar trim panels don't really matter since you can cut out the section you need to install the black metal brackets on the 89-90 c-pillar trim. These black metal brackets that bolt directly to the c-pillar of the chassis, are originally used to mount the 91-93 rear shoulder-belt assemblies.. The GT-Spec C-Pillar brace bolts onto those black metal brackets, but you cannot have both the c-pillar brace and the 91-93 rear shoulder-belts obviously since they both occupy the same space.

Just for your reference the black metal brakets I speak of look like this:

Thank you for this information good sir. Much appreciated.

[bladetech8]

Thank you for this information good sir. Much appreciated.

No problem dude :cool:

[Mister.E]

I would PM you but i'm pinked and can only post after a mod reads it. But i want to buy that nismo powerbrace look alike. How much? And where can i buy it

Stealth Fabrication. (http://www.stealth-custom-fab.com/)

[Matej]

were can i get that ultra rear 4 point strut bar for the hatch?! cant
seem to find it!! shiiet!
Not sure if Ultra Racing has a US dealer, but it can be found on Ebay.


Both the GT-Spec trunk brace and Ultra Racing rear strut/trunk bar will not fit.. The GT-Spec trunk brace occupies the same space where the back of that UR brace bolts down in the trunk..
The GTSpec brace has some room under it, and the UR brace uses the two bolts by the spare wheel compartment, not the crash support bolts, so I will try my luck. If it does not work out, I will just sell one of them.

[dudermagee]

So does the Do-Luck RXB for the S14 bolt onto existing holes?

[Corbic]

Stealth Fabrication. (http://www.stealth-custom-fab.com/)

Will they reduce my cars profile to radar guns?

[az_240]

So does the Do-Luck RXB for the S14 bolt onto existing holes?

^ yes... seatbelt mounts

[Enna]

Will they reduce my cars profile to radar guns?

Yes, so stealth like that other drivers may run into your car because they didn't know you were there.

[Corbic]

Yes, so stealth like that other drivers may run into your car because they didn't know you were there.

Thank god for the extra bad ass bracing then!

[bladetech8]

Not sure if Ultra Racing has a US dealer, but it can be found on Ebay.



The GTSpec brace has some room under it, and the UR brace uses the two bolts by the spare wheel compartment, not the crash support bolts, so I will try my luck. If it does not work out, I will just sell one of them.

Hey Matej!

So were they able to both fit? I'm also quite curious myself now. Also do the threaded holes for the two bolts by the spare wheel compartment already there?

[KA240SX808]

Were the S14 Jonnies Fraz (SCF) Fender and Front Strut Braces one off's or are they in production just not on the Website?

I would like to purchase all 3 (Tension Rod/Power, Fender & Strut Tower Braces) in the near future :)

[Matej]

Hey Matej!

So were they able to both fit? I'm also quite curious myself now. Also do the threaded holes for the two bolts by the spare wheel compartment already there?
Not sure yet, as I recently decided to go with a different motor, so braces will have to wait. Sorry sir!

[mestizo]

Were the S14 Jonnies Fraz (SCF) Fender and Front Strut Braces one off's or are they in production just not on the Website?

I would like to purchase all 3 (Tension Rod/Power, Fender & Strut Tower Braces) in the near future :)

The s14 parts are in production, email [email protected] to order, we are currently designing a new site and hopefully we will be able to stream line the order process as well once we get our bracketry supply worked out.

[sinnerstar]

This is the brace Ive got in my r32 still no idea what make it is, I asked a few pages back if anyone knew what it was but wasnt much help with no photos. So Ive got this floor brace along with an HKS half cage.
http://dsd32.files.wordpress.com/2012/05/20120502-205609.jpg

http://dsd32.files.wordpress.com/2012/05/20120502-205537.jpg

http://dsd32.files.wordpress.com/2012/05/20120502-205618.jpg

[MadScientist]

I remember seeing one of these before but I can't recall by who.
I know its a late 90s early 2000 era part, and for some reason I don't believe its a made in Japan part but sourced elsewhere only because the fabrication techniques.

[sinnerstar]

Ended up getting it out of a GTR that was brought in as a parts car from Japan, but you could be right doesnt mean its made there

[badbob2121]

I love this thread..

These all just came in..

Stealth Custom Fab Front & Rear Strut Tower Braces and Tension Rod Brace (amazing quality)
http://i803.photobucket.com/albums/yy317/badbob2121/IMG_1233.jpg

GT Spec C Pillar Brace
http://i803.photobucket.com/albums/yy317/badbob2121/IMG_1208.jpg

[KA240SX808]

Jelly. Can't wait to order my 14 braces from SCF.

[Jonnie Fraz]

I love this thread..

These all just came in..

Stealth Custom Fab Front & Rear Strut Tower Braces and Tension Rod Brace (amazing quality)


Sweet! I am glad you like them!

[Mister.E]

Jelly. Can't wait to order my 14 braces from SCF.

this..........

[Mister.E]

jonnie, quick question....

do your braces work on motors that have Nismo motor mounts? i have heard the nismo mounts raise the engine a little and i was wondering if you ever ran into any issues?

[mestizo]

jonnie, quick question....

do your braces work on motors that have Nismo motor mounts? i have heard the nismo mounts raise the engine a little and i was wondering if you ever ran into any issues?

Yes and no... it really depends on what motor in what chassis. S13 SR in S13 Chassis, then the answer is yes. S14 SR in S13 chassis it doesn't fit without the use of a spacer/riser or some sort of modification to the bar itself.

[Mister.E]

hmmm.

i will actually be looking at an S14 SR in an S14 chassis; that is once your parts for the 14 are in production.

[mestizo]

hmmm.

i will actually be looking at an S14 SR in an S14 chassis; that is once your parts for the 14 are in production.

S14 parts are in production, as stated before things have been delayed because of bracketry supply issues.

As far as I know there is no fitment problem with an S14 Sr in an S14 chassis. I'm sure Jon will chime in to confirm at some point.

[DJPimpFlex]

I can't say enough about Jonnie and Stealth Custom Fab. I've got the strut tower in my car and it is serious business! I think I'm going to do that tow hook mod to mine soon.

http://a4.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-ash4/326350_355116137832516_344460445564752_1380583_136 9642622_o.jpg

[badbob2121]

Sweet! I am glad you like them!

I love them, amazing work. Thank again!

[Johny5]

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v338/kidnrg/SDC10470.jpg

yay for overkill and braces everywhere

[Matej]

Is there a front strut bar that will fit over an SR with an S14 valve cover on 0.25" motor mount spacers and Nismo mounts in an S13?

[BoostinIX]

Is there a front strut bar that will fit over an SR with an S14 valve cover on 0.25" motor mount spacers and Nismo mounts in an S13?

Holy height batman.

[huffandpuff00]

Yeah Im loving the fender and tension braces from stealth!!! thanks for the amazing quality, great communication and quick shipping.
I can wait to see the difference these make
http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-NvMpyuPUoUI/T7FInjZLgqI/AAAAAAAABP8/mrazkK4X5gU/s1600/photo%2B1-725502.JPG

[Spark]

http://afsrps13.users.photofile.ru/photo/afsrps13/135011692/xlarge/174352574.jpg

transmission tunnel brace
bought it in Japan
Dont remember the brand name, but it was not common like nagisa, tanabe, etc....
does its job well by the way.

and kts lower trunk brace

http://afsrps13.users.photofile.ru/photo/afsrps13/135011692/xlarge/174447693.jpg

[davinci]

hmm anyone here running the scf braces with an ls1? im pretty sure it will clear mine judging from how the bar sits compared to the pinch line on the back firewall. Just looking for a more heads on picture so i can guage the height in s13

[mikeys13]

What did you have to modify? My DoLuck bar fit fine on my s14.


I didn't notice much of a difference until I added these things
http://i12.photobucket.com/albums/a229/livinglegendlll/ImportedPhotos00000-2.jpg

Seat feels solid now.

how did you make those?!

[Jonnie Fraz]

hmm anyone here running the scf braces with an ls1? im pretty sure it will clear mine judging from how the bar sits compared to the pinch line on the back firewall. Just looking for a more heads on picture so i can guage the height in s13

I am pretty sure you will have no issue with the LS1 fitment. Luke had one on his LS-S14 and there was tons of room. This will depend on what mounts you are running.

[az_240]

how did you make those?!


I didn't make them. They are original Do-Luck pieces that I got off this forum.

Someone needs to make copies because they are impossible to find but very functional.

[booey13]

That's crazy that they wouldn't come with those pieces. That's like selling shoes without laces. They'll sell them to you for extra though...

[RocketOgre]

Anyone got a pic of the URAS floor bar installed? Also if anyone is selling an RXB feel free to PM me :wcc:

http://www.uras-usa.com/images/FroorReinf.jpg

edit: Thanks fro your google skills surpass mine.

[thefro526]

Anyone got a pic of the URAS floor bar installed? Also if anyone is selling an RXB feel free to PM me :wcc:


Not the best picture, but I think it works (Found via google).

http://i257.photobucket.com/albums/hh204/Aero-k/Image2.jpg

Anyone got one of these Ultra Racing 4-Point Braces?

http://dnamotoring.com/speedmama/UR-LA4-147.jpg

How's the quality and stuff? Looks like it hangs down below the oil pan, which is really why I want it.

[Jonnie Fraz]

I didn't make them. They are original Do-Luck pieces that I got off this forum.

Someone needs to make copies because they are impossible to find but very functional.

Get me some dimensions I could build them.

[tacotacotaco]

Get me some dimensions I could build them.

get this man some dimensions!

[az_240]

Get me some dimensions I could build them.

That would be pretty sweet if you could make these... They are off the car ATM, I'll take some measurements and some more pics tomorrow. Expect a PM from me.

[RocketOgre]

http://i.imgur.com/00De5.gif

I'm pretty excited to see these! Someone sell me an RXB so I can send Jonnie some money!

[Jonnie Fraz]

That would be pretty sweet if you could make these... They are off the car ATM, I'll take some measurements and some more pics tomorrow. Expect a PM from me.

Cool beans!

[travisty_]

http://farm9.staticflickr.com/8150/7194511158_c1939484e4_c.jpg

http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7239/7194510706_872c3aaeab_c.jpg

[eek]

Interested in the Ultra Racing under braces. I've seen alot of mazda guys run them seems like they work for them.

[kyles1988]

http://farm9.staticflickr.com/8150/7194511158_c1939484e4_c.jpg


It's cool to see the differences in the name plates

http://distilleryimage3.s3.amazonaws.com/5de9acc2b75911e180c9123138016265_7.jpg

Also, mine is a "type 2" and yours is a "type 1".

http://site.icbmotorsport.com/New3/JDM_Next_Cross_Type1_22.jpg

[travisty_]

It's cool to see the differences in the name plates


It is pretty cool, I haven't seen another one like this before. Usually they have the black stickers, mine is like a badge almost.

[sharpe_corners]

http://zilvia.net/f/sale-items/460872-bath-salts-fund-autech-s14-rare-bits-arc-tension-rods.html#post4759628

[jdmjimmy]

Think mine are cusco ?? off for a cleaning up !

http://i178.photobucket.com/albums/w244/AE86JIMMY/12082011698.jpg

[future]

That rust^^^^^

[BossHogg]

how did you make those?!


In the pipe fitting/welding business we use something similiar all the time to support pipe. Its the basic Stauff block (sometimes mispronounced soft block). Im sure you could find a way to make your own similar style supports. They make plastic and aluminum ones. Hell I could steal these all day lol. Very very commonly used. Basically an industry standard.

Click the link to see what I'm talking about.
STAUFF:*Standard Series <br />according to DIN 3015, Part 1 (http://www.fr.stauff.com/index.php?id=1584&L=1)

http://i94.photobucket.com/albums/l99/kasilvia/sct770.jpg

[MarcD]

Finally got my Tomei 3 point

http://i1139.photobucket.com/albums/n555/JunctionTwelve/Randomcamerapics002.jpg

[95KA-Turbo]

Installed my Stealth Custom Fab tension rod brace last week.

http://knoop.sumospeed.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/07/SCFB6.jpg

Its a less then great photo, but the brace really woke the car up! Steering input and overall handling is significantly better! The car feels much better over bumps as well.


I did a full review here:

http://zilvia.net/f/businesses/465667-stealth-custom-fab-aka-jonnie-fraz.html

[Jonnie Fraz]

Thanks Buddy! I am glad you like it.

[bladetech8]

That would be pretty sweet if you could make these... They are off the car ATM, I'll take some measurements and some more pics tomorrow. Expect a PM from me.

Originally Posted by Jonnie Fraz*
Cool beans!


I am seriously interested in getting one of the first sets of these. Lmk when they've been dimensioned out and once you've started the prototypes/first run :)

[Creizai]

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v338/kidnrg/SDC10470.jpg

yay for overkill and braces everywhere

So sick, you should start selling them.

[Kaifd3s]

Never seen anyone with a Veilside Brace ;)

[DRFT180]

I've been doing some research on braces and planned on getting all of the GT-Spec stuff. I wanted some sort of floor bar, but since the Do-Luck bar is no longer around this may be the next best thing.

The ultra racing 2-pt room bar for S14

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v345/emc602/NextGenTuning/UR%20Bars/S14%20240sx/ro2-659.jpg

The picture is at a bad angle. Here's one showing the hump to clear the tunnel. Bar in the lower left corner.

http://farm9.staticflickr.com/8170/8000661940_a59577a939_b.jpg

Their 2-pt adjustable rear upper bar looks interesting, but am unsure if it would really make a difference if a rear STB is already in place.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v345/emc602/NextGenTuning/UR%20Bars/S14%20240sx/ru2-856a.jpg


Opinions on these two? Anyone have experience with them?

[first_choice]

some bad ass braces are in this thread

[94_240sx]

This is my car. :-)
I have Nismo brace, but won't fit after I installed Nismo engine mounts.
http://www.zshop.ca/wp-content/uploads/2011/12/Nagisa-Auto-Shakitto-Plate-Nissan-240sx-S13-89-94.jpg

J-Spec rear ladder bar. This is a copy of Cusco's, so it won't fit well on US spec s13. I had to modify it like this. It looks crooked if you install it as it is.
http://i126.photobucket.com/albums/p112/sxj6151/NICO/IMG_3068.jpg
http://i126.photobucket.com/albums/p112/sxj6151/NICO/IMG_3181.jpg

I believe no one mentioned Yashio Factory core support.
http://i126.photobucket.com/albums/p112/sxj6151/NICO2/IMG_0559.jpg

Tunnel brace.
http://i126.photobucket.com/albums/p112/sxj6151/NICO2/IMG_0556-1.jpg

eBay rear subframe bar. Can't beat $12 shipped.
http://i126.photobucket.com/albums/p112/sxj6151/NICO2/IMG_0563-1.jpg

I also have this.
http://i126.photobucket.com/albums/p112/sxj6151/NICO2/IMG_0560.jpg

[Matej]

I have Nismo brace, but won't fit after I installed Nismo engine mounts.
Ha ha, the irony.cc

[racepar1]

Anyone got one of these Ultra Racing 4-Point Braces?

http://dnamotoring.com/speedmama/UR-LA4-147.jpg

How's the quality and stuff? Looks like it hangs down below the oil pan, which is really why I want it.

I have owned the Ultra Racing fender braces, 4-point lower bar (above), and the 4-point rear strut bar. I can assure you that quality is great. The first thing that you will notice is that the UR parts are VERY light. They use very thinwall tubing, which is quite nice, but easy to damage. The 4-point front lower brace does hang a little below the oil pan as well. IMO the UR parts are some of the best braces that you can buy. I've never heard of any companies actually stress testing their chasis braces, but Ultra Racing does. There is actual engineering behind what they sell...

[racepar1]

Tunnel brace.
http://i126.photobucket.com/albums/p112/sxj6151/NICO2/IMG_0556-1.jpg


The original Cusco versions of this are quite rare, I sold mine to a friend. This brace should actually make a bit of difference...

[94_240sx]

The original Cusco versions of this are quite rare, I sold mine to a friend. This brace should actually make a bit of difference...

I didn't remember the brand when I posted it. It's from JGY Custom.
$67 is not bad at all. I got the chrome plating done though.

Nissan, 240sx, nissan sentra, nissan sentra se-r, G20, nissan skyline gtr, nissan silvia, S13 (http://www.jgycustoms.com/240sx/suspension.htm)

http://www.jgycustoms.com/240sx/images/fLbars13.jpg

[AS240]

if anybody is interested, there is a Do-Luck s13 floor brace on UpGarage right now

[leung]

Do-Luck made that same type brace maybe they were the first or cusco. Had an S14 one and man no one wanted that thing. It was cool as hell and a shame I couldn't use it.

[bunny13]

Do-Luck made that same type brace maybe they were the first or cusco. Had an S14 one and man no one wanted that thing. It was cool as hell and a shame I couldn't use it.

I wanted it. I bought yours actually. Now I wish I could find a rear. I tried that generic one on ebay and the fit was far from good...so in the trash it went.

[edmorl]

I didn't remember the brand when I posted it. It's from JGY Custom.
$67 is not bad at all. I got the chrome plating done though.

Nissan, 240sx, nissan sentra, nissan sentra se-r, G20, nissan skyline gtr, nissan silvia, S13 (http://www.jgycustoms.com/240sx/suspension.htm)

http://www.jgycustoms.com/240sx/images/fLbars13.jpg

how do those bolt up ? drill the frame rail ?

[94_240sx]

how do those bolt up ? drill the frame rail ?

Bolt holes and other holes are already there. Direct bolt on without any modification.

[thefro526]

I have owned the Ultra Racing fender braces, 4-point lower bar (above), and the 4-point rear strut bar. I can assure you that quality is great. The first thing that you will notice is that the UR parts are VERY light. They use very thinwall tubing, which is quite nice, but easy to damage. The 4-point front lower brace does hang a little below the oil pan as well. IMO the UR parts are some of the best braces that you can buy. I've never heard of any companies actually stress testing their chasis braces, but Ultra Racing does. There is actual engineering behind what they sell...

Thanks!

I had forgotten about this until this thread popped up. I might get one and then have a skid plate welded to it... Hmmm.

[AS240]

I wonder if that jgy brace will clear a rb25 tranny with syko mounts.
94_240sx: how much clearance do you have between your tranny and that brace?

[racepar1]

how do those bolt up ? drill the frame rail ?

The cusco one uses two existing bolt holes on either side and it also has an alignment dowel that fits into factory holes in the framerail on either side.

[shephurd]

anyone familiar with ordering the Next miracle cross bar from:

Next Miracle Cross Bar Type I EP82 EP91 RS13 RPS13 K11 EG6 EK4 EK9 (http://www.rhdjapan.com/next-miracle-cross-bar-type-i-ep82-ep91-rs13-rps13-k11-eg6-ek4-ek9-60629)

[codyace]

anyone familiar with ordering the Next miracle cross bar from:

Next Miracle Cross Bar Type I EP82 EP91 RS13 RPS13 K11 EG6 EK4 EK9 (http://www.rhdjapan.com/next-miracle-cross-bar-type-i-ep82-ep91-rs13-rps13-k11-eg6-ek4-ek9-60629)

For that cost I'd look into a bolt in roll bar and a strut tower brace....

[shephurd]

For that cost I'd look into a bolt in roll bar and a strut tower brace....

that is true, how well does the stealth custom fab rear strut brace fit in a hatch without cutting the stock plastics?

[ILoveJDM]

For that cost I'd look into a bolt in roll bar and a strut tower brace....

yeah,

but the "coolness" factor that makes everyone lose their shit over miracle xbars is their price tag. if it was cheap, everyone would have one.

[s0fa king]

S14 Carbing Rear Strut Bar
http://farm9.staticflickr.com/8509/8531160227_511d4917ec_b.jpg (http://www.flickr.com/photos/[email protected]/8531160227/)
DSC00797 (http://www.flickr.com/photos/[email protected]/8531160227/) by S0FA KiNG (http://www.flickr.com/people/[email protected]/), on Flickr
http://farm9.staticflickr.com/8374/8532268986_dd4bc7cda3_b.jpg (http://www.flickr.com/photos/[email protected]/8532268986/)
DSC00792 (http://www.flickr.com/photos/[email protected]/8532268986/) by S0FA KiNG (http://www.flickr.com/people/[email protected]/), on Flickr

[DRFT180]

GTSpec's entire brace lineup for the S14

http://farm9.staticflickr.com/8532/8481181100_7cc7142f73_b.jpg

JGY Front and Rear Ladder bars also

http://farm9.staticflickr.com/8374/8484437262_0aa6d51fe5_b.jpg

[IIIXziuR]

That's a lot of sweet gear, man.
How come you opted for the slip collar and not the solid S/F risers?

[DRFT180]

I've had solids before and didn't want to go that route with this car. Trying to keep it somewhat comfortable. Also, ease of installation was a factor.

[Matej]

Is that the Xcessive skid plate? Looks really nice. Probably the best available bolt-on design for low cars.

[BOROSUN]

confirmed!
S14 front tunnel brace or ladder bar fits s13 too

http://i365.photobucket.com/albums/oo100/MANGOLIAN_IAN2/530665FF-21D8-45A2-94A1-DA3CE93255C5-6068-00000D8C930A6556.jpg

this the topspeed s14 ladder bar.

[az_240]

^I had one of those but felt it was cheaply made as it would flex without too much force so I sold it. I'm sure the do-luck version is much better.

[BOROSUN]

ionno mine, seems fine to me.

what was yours made of playdough?

[shephurd]

can anyone recommend me a good quality fender brace for S13?
the gtspec fender brace looks well made but appears it is only available for S14s

[DRFT180]

Is that the Xcessive skid plate? Looks really nice. Probably the best available bolt-on design for low cars.


It is the Xcessive plate. I do have one negative comment though. It's designed to slide in between the front of the tension rod brackets and the lower radiator support, but only uses two bolts. Causing a gap between the other four bolts. I went out and purchased 1/8" washers to go in between the other four bolts so that there won't be any sort of uneven tension. Just something small that I came across.

Still a pretty solid plate.

[vespaman]

i love to stiffen up my car :) so far i have stitch welded in my engine bay and fire wall and ran all the braces i could find

Carbing front strut bar + Cusco os rear tri strut bar(no picture)
http://i185.photobucket.com/albums/x195/kitnitchee/carbingstrutbar_zps58dad33a.jpg

Shakitto plates
http://i185.photobucket.com/albums/x195/kitnitchee/brace7_zpsceb6cebb.jpg

Nismo power brace
http://i185.photobucket.com/albums/x195/kitnitchee/IMG_3872_zpsac040773.jpg

Cusco 6 point w/ cusco carbon diagonal add on bar and Doluck floor support bar
http://i185.photobucket.com/albums/x195/kitnitchee/IMG_3851_zps4032472d.jpg

Rash facture c pillar bar
http://i185.photobucket.com/albums/x195/kitnitchee/IMG_3853_zps83ac791e.jpg

Doluck support bar (steel version) and Nagisa fender brace
http://i185.photobucket.com/albums/x195/kitnitchee/brace5_zpsc0a69e65.jpg

I sold Doluck support bar and got a genuine Carbing support bar in aluminum version instead. idk if this rare or not but never seen this before and couldn't find any info on them.
http://i185.photobucket.com/albums/x195/kitnitchee/brace6_zps529acf0a.jpg
http://i185.photobucket.com/albums/x195/kitnitchee/brace4_zpsa32b9382.jpg
http://i185.photobucket.com/albums/x195/kitnitchee/brace9_zps65d1f016.jpg

Kts dif brace and rear subframe brace
http://i185.photobucket.com/albums/x195/kitnitchee/brace3_zps135884c1.jpg
http://i185.photobucket.com/albums/x195/kitnitchee/brace2_zps7b1c81ba.jpg

just came in today. first is Uras chassis brace, Doluck front ladder bar and super rare front tie brace.
http://i185.photobucket.com/albums/x195/kitnitchee/brace1_zps0b2d083e.jpg
http://i185.photobucket.com/albums/x195/kitnitchee/brace8_zps939ba0b0.jpg

i know it looks kinda overkilled and crazy to run all this shit but i'm happy to do what i want to and still looking for Doluck rear ladder bar and maybe a Yashio factory core support brace.

[TheRealSy90]

^Wins the whole thread.

God damn, your chassis does not flex at all.

[CamryOnBronze]

Dang, the king of braces...

[Kaizen.]

Got more braces than a dentist!

How's it ride?

[PeaceOnesxWai]

How's it ride?


What he said

[90240sx07]

well looks like i know where the next step of my build is braces then a cage

[Darren]

well looks like i know where the next step of my build is braces then a cage

I'd go cage then braces... a cage will get you most of the way there by itself (talking weld in cage of course)

[90240sx07]

I'd go cage then braces... a cage will get you most of the way there by itself (talking weld in cage of course)

id love to do it in that order but where i live theres no one that builds cages so id either have to order a universal kit which most ive seen dont fit the greatest or drive at least to idaho or washington to have a cage built for me

[Darren]

id love to do it in that order but where i live theres no one that builds cages so id either have to order a universal kit which most ive seen dont fit the greatest or drive at least to idaho or washington to have a cage built for me


Sounds like a market opportunity :D

[90240sx07]

ya if i knew how to make cages and if more people needed cages built id be rich but not much of a market

[stance]

Anyone know if stealth fab customs are still in business?

[whiterps13]

Cusco / Safety 21 cages are bolt in and they fit fucking perfect.

Before you just assume that anything non weld-in is crap, research your options.

[racepar1]

Cusco / Safety 21 cages are bolt in and they fit fucking perfect.

Before you just assume that anything non weld-in is crap, research your options.

Anything that is bolted in will not brace the chasis nearly as effectively as a weld-in version. Also any cage with a "dash escape" setup is a POS. You want a cage, you're cutting holes in your dash. Cages are NOT for street cars...

[Got Insulin?]

Anything that is bolted in will not brace the chasis nearly a effectively as a weld-in version. Also any cage with a "dash escape" setup is a POS. You want a cage, you're cutting holes in your dash. Cages are NOT for street cars...

Preach.

(10char)

[mestizo]

Anyone know if stealth fab customs are still in business?

Yes, we have just been busy with my car, then FD Long Beach this past weekend... PM me ur info and I will forward it to Jonnie.

[Cease_Super_Hicas]

Did someone say Jonnie Fraz? Sorry guys I have been trying to stay above water, but I am losing...lol.
Here is a pic of a recent fab day.
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v635/Fraz-Man-One/More-braces.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v635/Fraz-Man-One/SCF002.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v635/Fraz-Man-One/SCF004.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v635/Fraz-Man-One/SCF003.jpg

how much for the brace that goes to the to tension rod brace?