fs/ft Weds Cerberus II 18x10.5+0/18x12+0

[wjk0817]

soldsoldsoldsoldsoldsoldsoldsoldsoldsoldsold

[bobthebuilder]

These are Cerberus 1.

[g_mac530]

Those wheels don't look like they are a 0 offset

[ALEXTHESUS*PECT]

show me the stickers to show offset here......

[s13yaobling]

Ya these dont look like those specs at all

[wjk0817]

soldsoldsoldsoldsoldsoldsoldsoldsoldsoldsold

[02 camry le]

from the pics.
myopinion the inner barrel was changed

[wjk0817]

Wheel wash pics comming soon!

[JasianBlazin]

specs?!

msglength.

[g35gabby]

http://zilvia.net/f/wheels-tires/441739-racing-hart-cx-19x8-5-38-5x114-120-a.html

trade?

[bobthebuilder]

from the pics.
myopinion the inner barrel was changed

If they were changed, they used Wed's barrels as well because they're the only ones who use that shape.. But they don't look any wider than 7" so I doubt any of these wheels are 12" wide.. Plus the seal looks original as well

[wjk0817]

soldsoldsoldsoldsoldsoldsoldsoldsoldsoldsold

[lextonissan]

so is there a price listed and i missed it? How much?

[KOUKIboy]

Beer table is awesome!!!! lol....GLWS....

[ALEXTHESUS*PECT]

these are 3 pc wheels anyways i think. just re barrel them to what ever you want at wheelflip!

[wjk0817]

these are 3 pc wheels anyways i think. just re barrel them to what ever you want at wheelflip!
indeed, haha

Beer table is awesome!!!! lol....GLWS....
Thank you!
so is there a price listed and i missed it? How much?
The price I didn't list for I have no idea what thesego for. Just shoot me an offer

[g35gabby]

http://zilvia.net/f/wheels-tires/441739-racing-hart-cx-19x8-5-38-5x114-120-a.html

trade?

:naughty:

:wiggle:

[CleanAndLegit]

wheel flip at 450 per wheel lol

[wjk0817]

Pending trade

[wjk0817]

Still available
tried measurements of offset by myself and calcualted around 60
$999
and trade

[ALEXTHESUS*PECT]

18x10 +0
19x10.5 -8
work schwert sc-2 black polish "O" face
http://i60.photobucket.com/albums/h10/ale89se/wheels/IMG_4016.jpg
http://i60.photobucket.com/albums/h10/ale89se/wheels/IMG_4172.jpg

and you got a y33........
http://i60.photobucket.com/albums/h10/ale89se/IMG_0042.jpg

[My$800S14]

18x10 +0
19x10.5 -8
work schwert sc-2 black polish "O" face
http://i60.photobucket.com/albums/h10/ale89se/wheels/IMG_4016.jpg
http://i60.photobucket.com/albums/h10/ale89se/wheels/IMG_4172.jpg

and you got a y33........
http://i60.photobucket.com/albums/h10/ale89se/IMG_0042.jpg

Are these for sale? They are pretty much my favorite wheels of all time other than equip 01 in the 5 lug veriety, and the mesh stitch gulfs

[wjk0817]

Drooooooool.....
Price drop
$900.00

[TougeSC3]

Can get a verification on the offset?

[wjk0817]

Sold sold sold sold sold

[wjk0817]

Gonesold sold sold sold sold sold sold sold

[My$800S14]

thanks man, good business, this guy was very helpfull
and cooperative

[My$800S14]

message lenth

[My$800S14]

can anyone here help with there feelings and or expectations as to what was suposed to be included in this package, it was my understanding that the package was to come with 4 weds cerberus in (2)18x10 (2)18x9 and in the pictures there was clearly some defects, i am pretty sure we can all agree on that, however the extent of the defects were in no way depicted, or described, and every time i would ask about the condition in our texting conversation, he would divert my attention elseware, when i asked for a picture of the lip size, he took 1 picture of the cleanest section of rim, now on to the varrstoens that were included, idk if you guys that read this read it the same way that i did, and please agree or correct me if i am wrong, but he represented that he would be sending 2 good varrstoens that he pictured them together and the picture was pretty clear, there was no paint or any damage on the wheels, possibly some small curb rash that was relatively unoticable, and then he posted a picture of the beer table just to display it, well anyways, i also made comments to him that if he decided to sell the other varrstoens that were consisting of his beer table to let me know first, and he informed me that "it" was at his girlfriends house, so on to the pictures, anyone that read this, and or were conscidering buying this, was it stated that the varrs would be in this condition, or was it incinuated that they were in proper usable, and overall non damaged condition by the pictures shown, he claims to me that it was stated that the wheels that would be sent were the ones that were beeing used as the beer table, and that he stated in the post that they were damaged, i had read this post through and through multiple times before i purchased, and i in no way saw anywere were he had stated that the wheels that were to be shipped with the weds were damaged

this is the first picture that was sent to me via text message when i asked to send a picture of lip size, what appears to be the cleanest part of all of the weds wheels:
http://s15.postimage.org/bcvfq50hn/weds_cerberus_lip_size.jpg (http://postimage.org/)

Second picture that was sent to me via text message, a picture of the lip of the varrstoens, having made no mention of conditions to date, unless i somehow missed it in the posting here on zilvia:
http://s15.postimage.org/seo9s8fcr/varrs_lip_size.jpg (http://postimage.org/)

This is a picture of all of the weds wheels with what i thought at the time was his beer table, he had also stated that the beer table was at his girlfriends house, its also hard to tell exactly all the details in the phone pictures, and i thought that the coloration on the varrs was due to an effect that was on his phone, which you will see alot of his pictures have been altered with effects that he has on his phone:
http://s15.postimage.org/vzk5bgjwb/weds_next_to_his_beer_table.jpg (http://postimage.org/)

This a picture of when i asked him to verify width, pretty straight forward, no big deal, but it is the cleanest part of the exterior of the rim as, one of the rims has a gouge in the outside part of the rim, really no big deal at all:
http://s15.postimage.org/6i1qrv263/rim_width.jpg (http://postimage.org/)

This is the washing pictures sent to me, still no indications of the condition of any of the wheels(there were pictures of the weds indicating some curbage in the post, but not to the extent that there was):
http://s15.postimage.org/asgeng797/all_wheels_washed_up.jpg (http://postimage.org/)

this is the all boxed up picture, pretty self explanatory, and seemingly legit transaction:
http://s15.postimage.org/p063c3jy3/all_boxed_up.jpg (http://postimage.org/)

this is a picture of the reciept from the shipping ordeal he told me to get a shipping qoute for 135lbs so that is what i got a quote for, and the total amount of wheight for the rims was well over that, he took care of some of the shipping, and bought the boxes, which came out to alot more, partially because of the weight, so far seemingly very nice and legit guy to work with:
http://s15.postimage.org/5wcrvr73v/reciept.jpg (http://postimage.org/)

now this is were it starts to be a surprise and a problem for me, the boxes arrive on the 7th of April and i open them up to discover the following conditions, the rest of this is pretty easy to see that as far as i know untill now, this is not what was to arrive in the box, i was supposed to receive 2 good varrstoens along with the weds cerberus:
http://s15.postimage.org/4vcj6mq4b/and_this_is_what_i_recieved.jpg (http://postimage.org/)

you can see how severe this damage is in this picture, but that is only the
front:
http://s15.postimage.org/ho0n6k1q3/cracks1.jpg (http://postimage.org/)

This is the rear of the rim in the same place:
http://s15.postimage.org/mny3ei7cr/cracks_2.jpg (http://postimage.org/)

you can see here that it is cracked along the width of the rim, and bent inward:
http://s15.postimage.org/3x0ri3263/cracks_3.jpg (http://postimage.org/)

a picture of the same effect looking donw the width of the rim:
http://s15.postimage.org/k9at7tghn/cracks_4.jpg (http://postimage.org/)

and this is a crack in another part of the rim approximately 3 to 5 inches from the bend:
http://s15.postimage.org/bsbawwbsr/cracks_5.jpg (http://postimage.org/)

this is an above view of the rear of the other varrstoen 1.1.1 and the V shaped bend, and crack
http://s15.postimage.org/shcqst8e3/other_varrs_damage.jpg (http://postimage.org/)

This next series of pictures shows that the second varrstoen is completely severed in 2 pieces around the inner barrel, and the first of which with a clothes pin place in the crack to demonstrate that the metal is completely seperated
http://s15.postimage.org/4evwxxrqz/other_varrs_damage_2_completely_severed.jpg (http://postimage.org/)

http://s15.postimage.org/8cj6ncekb/other_varrs_damage_3_completely_severed.jpg (http://postimage.org/)

http://s15.postimage.org/6yrjs1faz/other_varrs_damage_4.jpg (http://postimage.org/)

http://s15.postimage.org/ess5dfn3v/other_varrs_damage_5.jpg (http://postimage.org/)

http://s15.postimage.org/fwc9pe7qz/other_varrs_damage_6.jpg (http://postimage.org/)

http://s15.postimage.org/975q9dmez/other_varrs_damage_7.jpg (http://postimage.org/)


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if i misunderstood the condition of the rims and it was stated that they were damaged and not in working and or usable condition please inform me that i am wrong in expecting a different product, if what you have read in the posts correlates with what i was expecting to receive when the shipment arrived, please let me know that i am not wrong. i am not trying to bash wjk0817 but i do feel that there was some major misrepresentation here.

[bobthebuilder]

First of all, paying $360 to ship those wheels is already a scam in itself.

But yeah, he fucked you.. File a claim with your credit card company and get your money back

[wjk0817]

I guess we're talking over here as well Mr.R.

okay folks, Im really not a bad person who will scamm people over the internet.
i have done many trades sales on zilvia and wish i continue to do so with a good name.
so
I listed on the post here that the 2 varstoens wheels were cracked and thats the reason why i posted up the beer table picture
REMEMBER GUYS?
why else whould I.
and the paint on the varstoens you are saying that you got scammed too sir, I exactly showed you picture up there about it.
the varstoens were basically for the good tires for it matches the weds wheels.

sir. i do not mind you asking for opinoin from zilvians here.
However, i do feel a bit bias and unfair for this claim.

the shipping and handling and the boxes i DID cover and
the shipping weigh i texted you sir was correct, maybe the price difference was not the same in the same location or what not but, did not "scamm" you sir with the wrong weight. for i have proof over our text message.


willing to work it out and have it straight Mr.R
as to a full refund sir, well, i first will need the $360.00 i spent on shipping.
however, im pretty over this issue and like i said sir, im willing to not get any money back and let you have the weds sir.

really wished we were on the same boat for we had a good connection and a legit deal going on before what happen to our transaction after our misunderstanding.

let me know here or text me Mr.R
willing to work things out for the seller/buyer to be fair

but once again.
please do include all the details because i really dont want bias opinions here sir.
its a really big deal and concern for me as well.

sigh, overall i just want you to be happy so i can get over this and the paypal situation Mr.R
but if you do choose to work with authorities, I have no complaints, will do as you say.
but whats for sure is that you are going to loose money as I, for you owe me and the fedex juke we had sir.

hope we can work it out
and
happy easter.

[wjk0817]

Also Mr.R
you have to remember
that when you were short in cash when it was shipping time
i even told you that the varstoens werent worth it,
(because i wasnt going to displace the tires)
and ill send just the 4 weds wich would of worked out a 1000 times better.

IF i was a scammer sir,
does all the ends meet in our story for me to be a scammer?
and honestly $600 for weds is pretty darn good deal boss...

[JasianBlazin]

So the wheels were 10" wide? damn shoulda hit me up! haha.

anyways as long as you told him specifically the condition of the Varsstoens i.e cracked, bent, shattered then the buyer cannot complain.

Also shipping for those wheels were a KILLING!

[My$800S14]

So the wheels were 10" wide? damn shoulda hit me up! haha.

anyways as long as you told him specifically the condition of the Varsstoens i.e cracked, bent, shattered then the buyer cannot complain.

Also shipping for those wheels were a KILLING!

apparently you did not read any of the posts after your posting, and it seems quite obvious, that you did not read my last post. I'm not stupid, and it is becoming insulting to assume that I would not be able to understand if a pair of wheels were completeley destroyed, Mr. J you can use my name, Ron, what could I have to hide? I sent the money, why would I have a problem with a product that I bought IF arrived in the condition described to me, I was simply looking to see opinions from those who read the entire post, and what their inference of the expected condition of the wheels were, my goal was not to start an argument thread, and the shipping...the weight that you told me was about half (135lbs)[to witch I can provide proof of the claimed weight] of the atual weight, when each varrstoen wheel (2) weighed in at above 50lbs, and each Weds(4) wheel was nearly 30lbs, I will gladly post pictures of the labels on the boxes showing the weights, the lack of a return adress

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[wjk0817]

apparently you did not read any of the posts after your posting, and it seems quite obvious, that you did not read my last post. I'm not stupid, and it is becoming insulting to assume that I would not be able to understand if a pair of wheels were completeley destroyed, Mr. J you can use my name, Ron, what could I have to hide? I sent the money, why would I have a problem with a product that I bought IF arrived in the condition described to me, I was simply looking to see opinions from those who read the entire post, and what their inference of the expected condition of the wheels were, my goal was not to start an argument thread, and the shipping...the weight that you told me was about half (135lbs)[to witch I can provide proof of the claimed weight] of the atual weight, when each varrstoen wheel (2) weighed in at above 50lbs, and each Weds(4) wheel was nearly 30lbs, I will gladly post pictures of the labels on the boxes showing the weights, the lack of a return adress

-blank-
Well Mr. Ron, what can we do now to resolve our issue. Or what can I do.
And above, there was no pun intended, no mean to disrespect you.
Now let get to the point sir.
Tried texts/calls.
Guess we'll talk publicly on zilvia.
Jury duty style ha.
Or we can just fight our claims on paypal.
however, I do believe we have a easier way to resolve this.
As you know Mr. Ron how lenient I am toward this issue.
And shipping?
Forget it, I'm over it sir don't need the money.
The varstoens?
I did mention on the post that it was bent and cracked so it would be IDEAL use for beer table like me (which was for laugh and giggle also attention getter) but mostly for the tires.
Which I was not okay with departing for I do not have the luxury of time.
Go trash the varstoens, keep the two tires and my Weds and keep the shipping cost and hopefully be satisfied.
Or give me my shipping fees and ill be happy to get my shit back.

[Moy12]

Wow this is a little bs. I know this dude and he's is a legit guy!
Simply case of misunderstanding that simple.
But this guy is really legit man!

[ALEXTHESUS*PECT]

i feel after following this thread from the beginning, that is just an unfortunate misunderstanding on the buyers part. to the best of my knowledge, the seller described exactly what you received in your pics.
and if you got the weds for $600 then just say "oh well" and move one. the seller put out all info, and as a buyer you should have asked for pics of all wheels showing damage since you admit you read that damage was present. lesson learned.

[1gr8bar10der]

I believe any admins on this site and can bring back the original post before the seller deleted it. Then we all can see who's to blame...

[My$800S14]

If what the above guy says is true that would be the best course of action, I don't know that they can do that though.

-blank-

[speedgod^s13]

Does anyone else find it suspicious, that the seller edited all of his posts in this thread? I don't know many people, that put sold, for every post in a for sale thread. Unless...I'm just speculating here, it's to get rid of all the proof.

[My$800S14]

and in all honesty, thats how i feel speedgod, i have no way of proving anything, the only thing i have, is that it looks very odd how he erased all publications in this add by him(wjk0817), but none the less, i am forced to settle this, i have no choice, given there is no evidence to support my story, and even if there were,i would still have to pay return shipping::sigh:: so i am going on record here that it has been agreed that if i cancel the dispute between me and wjk0817 on paypal he will refund me $150 if i cancel the claim today, if not by tomorrow mornning, as i have to go to work, if i dont cancel it by tomorrow mornning, the refund will be only $100, so that beeing said, i will be semi-reluctantly canceling the claim within a couple hours, if i am capable of canceling via phone internet service, and if not, when i get home in the morning. wjk0817, can i get your aggreance here on this so that it is also public, and i have also had to aggree that i will not open any calims in the future, provided ofcorse that he will infact refund me the money that was promised.

[wjk0817]

as requested Ron.
Yes I agree on your Term and conditions.
and lets settle this.
ill send you the 15o
asa paypal is done boss

[My$800S14]

I. Have canceled the claim, pending partial refund of $150

-blank-

[wjk0817]

Sent the 150
Officially made $550 for the weds.
Facepalm lol

[g35gabby]

my 2cents,

I followed this thing from the beginning and what you discribed of the Vars and what the receiver has showed as the final product seem to be 2 different things. I would never have wanted them and sure as hell would not wanted to have forked over a dollar to ship them.

You can state that you are as legit as you want and others can too, but I have a problem with the actual size of the wheels and offset never EVER coming to terms. Infact the final specs on the wheels are only now known based on the final person receiving the wheels. There is something very fishy on the status of those wheels and well others can say it is a miss understanding on the buyers part, the seller was never forth coming on what it was they were even selling.

GL the new wheels to the buyer, but damn I'm glad It wasn't my problem to sort out.

[My$800S14]

Thank you Gaby, the problem has been resolved the best it could, all I can do now is put it behind me, I'm going to resize the weds, the backspacing is to much for my RX7, but it will work for now with a spacer, and as for the Varrstoens, oh well shit happens, he refunded me some money, and I will move on.

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[g35gabby]

NP, what was the final offset and width? RX7s and mazda's in general usually use pretty high offsets it makes me very curious. my husband's 6 uses uber lame offsets and how we have these racing harts for sale now.

if you decide you want to trade the weds for the racing harts LMK. The weds would look pretty good on his 6.

[My$800S14]

Mazda 6? The Weds have curb rash, but they ended up beeing 18X10 rear with a +60 offset, and the front is 18X9 +50,

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[My$800S14]

That's without the spacer, I'm going to put a 10mm on it, what racing harts are you interested in trading? I may be interested

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[My$800S14]

Oh 19's are too large sorry

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[g35gabby]

Mazda 6? The Weds have curb rash, but they ended up beeing 18X10 rear with a +60 offset, and the front is 18X9 +50,

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yep, my husband drives the yellow Street Unit Performance mazda 6.

holy cow those are fail spec. Far cry from the listing which if they were correct would have looked great on my G.:sadwavey:

[My$800S14]

Yeah they are, but I am going to have them reliped and have the inner barrels cut down a tad, if I put like a 5 inch lip on them they will be 13 and 14" wide lol, massive

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[My$800S14]

They are actually flush though, so they will do for now, you wouldn't be interested in selliing that G would you?

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[g35gabby]

Not super interested in selling it, owe 9k on it right now

lmk who you have redo the barrels, I need to have my volk AV3s widen. the 18x8 +43 w/ spacers isn't going to cut it for much longer....

[speedgod^s13]

Not super interested in selling it, owe 9k on it right now

lmk who you have redo the barrels, I need to have my volk AV3s widen. the 18x8 +43 w/ spacers isn't going to cut it for much longer....

I'm thinking he's either going to go through wheelflip.com, or vrwheels.com.

[My$800S14]

I'm thinking he's either going to go through wheelflip.com, or vrwheels.com.

Yes I am going through one of those 2 or a company called Wright Wheels, but they havnt gotten back to me yet, also I have had a friend at a shop check into weds USA about getting new inner barrels, and they said they would get back to him, so I'm keeping my fingers crossed on getting some OEM inners, the lips will come in time, but I'm not in a hury, because they wheels sit flush on my RX7, if they were for my 240, it would be a differemt story

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