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DJ Machine
01-13-2002, 10:29 PM
I just put the deposit on some new rims friday, and the tires i got with them are Nitto  215/40x17..

The question is, is a 40 sidewall too small? I don't want to look like one of those mexican lowriders that have the tiny ass tires :[

mistert
01-13-2002, 10:32 PM
you should be cool with 40, thats not way too bad. but i would be careful making comments about "mexican lowriders" because you're about to get spammed with "OH MY GOD YOU CANT SAY THAT YOU KILLED BAMBI YOURE HITLER YOU SHOULD BE HUNG AND SHOT AND THEN THEY SHOULD FEED YOUR BODY TO A SHARK AND THEN BLOW THE SHARK UP WITH NUCLEAR WEAPONS ALL BECAUSE YOU SAID THAT"

DJ Machine
01-13-2002, 10:37 PM
Should i have said "spic lowriders" instead?

(dont worry, i was gonna turn my last car into &nbsp;a lowrider before i wrecked it <img src="http://www.zilvia.net/f/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/biggrin.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=':D'>, i stil want to put airbags on my 240)

Nismos14
01-13-2002, 10:41 PM
spic lowriders is probably worse LoL

DJ Machine
01-13-2002, 10:42 PM
bloops

Kid Zelda
01-13-2002, 10:43 PM
</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote </td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">Quote: from DJ Machine on 10:37 pm on Jan. 13, 2002
Should i have said &quot;spic lowriders&quot; instead?

(dont worry, i was gonna turn my last car into a lowrider before i wrecked it <img src="http://www.zilvia.net/f/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/biggrin.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=':D'>, i stil want to put airbags on my 240)
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Just say lowrider, its that simple. &nbsp;But whatever, say whatever u want

You were just trying to make a little joke......................................ha...... ........................................
..................ha

DJ Machine
01-13-2002, 10:49 PM
</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote </td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">Quote: from mistert on 10:32 pm on Jan. 13, 2002
you should be cool with 40, thats not way too bad. but i would be careful making comments about &quot;mexican lowriders&quot; because you're about to get spammed with &quot;OH MY GOD YOU CANT SAY THAT YOU KILLED BAMBI YOURE HITLER YOU SHOULD BE HUNG AND SHOT AND THEN THEY SHOULD FEED YOUR BODY TO A SHARK AND THEN BLOW THE SHARK UP WITH NUCLEAR WEAPONS ALL BECAUSE YOU SAID THAT&quot;
</td></tr></table><span id='postcolor'>Actually, if the afformentioned mexicans were the ones coming after me, i'd most likely get stabbed before i got shot.

mistert
01-13-2002, 11:03 PM
</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote </td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">Quote: from DJ Machine on 11:49 pm on Jan. 13, 2002
</td></tr></table><span id='postcolor'>Actually, if the afformentioned mexicans were the ones coming after me, i'd most likely get stabbed before i got shot.</td></tr></table><span id='postcolor'>

haha #### dude cool to see someone who just could care less, too bad you wont be around the board much longer <img src="http://www.zilvia.net/f/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/sad.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=':('> there are a few overly sensitive people here who get too caught up in PC bullshit

DJ Machine
01-13-2002, 11:09 PM
Im willing to bet the people who'd get the most pissed off have never been to texas.

LanceS13
01-13-2002, 11:16 PM
ok guys....back on subject.
205/45/17's would have been a better choice if you care about speedometer accuracy; but the 205/40's will give you slightly better gearing and they're not so low-pro to look weird either.

DJ Machine
01-13-2002, 11:18 PM
What kind of speedo error am i going to be looking at here?

mistert
01-13-2002, 11:23 PM
maybe be going 59 when it says 60, its no biggie

LanceS13
01-13-2002, 11:45 PM
When your speedo reads 60mph, you'll actually be going 58mph. &nbsp;Like mistert said...no biggie.

RoNx777
01-14-2002, 09:03 AM
Im planing on going with 225/45/17 up front and 245/45/17 in the rear. I was told these sizes are okay.

LanceS13
01-14-2002, 09:25 AM
You were told wrong....225/40/17's in front and 245/35/17's in rear are the correct sizes. &nbsp;225/45/17's are an inch too tall and 245/45/17's are 2 inches too tall.:o

RoNx777
01-14-2002, 09:29 AM
so i really can go wif 45 profile tires??? Cuz i live in NYC and the roads hear a really tough. I had 40's on had 'Teg b4 and it wuz a really bad ride.

LanceS13
01-14-2002, 09:42 AM
45 is not a set number...it's an aspect ratio--a percentage of the tire width. Both of the sizes I gave have a sidewall of 3.5&quot;...even though one is 40 series and the other 35. If you go with the taller sidewall you may encounter rubbing problems...especially if the car is lowered, and your speedo will be somewhat off. If the low sidewall worries you that much, go to 16&quot;s.

BTW...what size rims do you have? &nbsp;Ideally, you need at least 7.5&quot; rim for 225 tires and 8.5&quot; rim for 245 tires.

(Edited by LanceS13 at 10:44 am on Jan. 14, 2002)

HippoSleek
01-14-2002, 11:10 AM
</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote </td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">Quote: from DJ Machine on 8:37 pm on Jan. 13, 2002
Should i have said &quot;spic lowriders&quot; instead?

(dont worry, i was gonna turn my last car into a lowrider before i wrecked it <img src="http://www.zilvia.net/f/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/biggrin.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=':D'>, i stil want to put airbags on my 240)
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[enter overly sensitive person... pc bullshit] &nbsp;DJ - lived in Texas, Arizona, and California and for every Latino w/ a lowrider I saw more poor (taste) white trash examples. &nbsp;Bad taste, criminal tendancies, and the like don't have any genetic codes linking them to one race or another. &nbsp;I will just omit the step about internet protocall and getting personal and add you to the list of immature, ignorant jackasses. &nbsp;

I'd like to think of this place as a place to share an interest in cars that crosses ethnic, economic, and social lines. &nbsp;We are all here b/c we enjoy a particular car. &nbsp;We all have the right to be free from prejudgments and insults too. &nbsp;If you cannot respect this right, this is not the place for you. &nbsp;

Now, I'm sure to you, this is no big deal and if it hurts someone's feelings - oh well. &nbsp;But the point is that adding ethnicity to your descirptive served no purpose. &nbsp;White, black, yellow, and brown people all drive lowriders - any reason to single one group out? &nbsp;None other than to stereotype and impose your ignorance on the whole community. &nbsp;Then to go back and add a racial epithet and stereotype... boy, you just keep looking better! &nbsp;Thanks for sharing, jackass!

In closing, have fun with your cheap ass tires (more proof of your ignorance... Nitto!), your new found dubz (aRe tHeY cHrOmE, dAwG?), and you future installation of &quot;bags.&quot; &nbsp;You are sure to join to ranks of riceboys that will make our community look bad. &nbsp;Fortunately, opening your mouth will confirm your ignorance and hopefully spare the 240 community the embarassment of having an intelligent member with bad taste be discovered. &nbsp;

Doing a search of your past activity here at Zilvia, I must admit - this post is a fair reflection of you love of tacky accessories and failing to be concerned with the performance potential of your vehicle. &nbsp;Body kits, wheels, seats, stereos. &nbsp;You are the definition of rice boy!

In the future, why don't you take the 20 seconds to do a yahoo search for &quot;tire size correction&quot; and find the info yourself. &nbsp;I'm sure the advice you get around here couldn't be trusted, as our ranks include a host of ethnic groups who are much less intelligent than yourself! &nbsp;Another reason to learn this technique would be because you are unlikely to find too much help here from some of the most helpful people. &nbsp;Personally, I would remind members of your beliefs every chance I get. &nbsp;Worst of luck, fucktard.

thewholefnshow
01-14-2002, 11:10 AM
That has always been my question, what is the maximum that you can put on your car without rubbing or problems? Can you slap 245's in front and 275's in back with no rubbing? What's the max, cause whatever that is, I want that... go broke yes. Care no, remember, you can sleep in a car, but you can't drive a house.

HippoSleek
01-14-2002, 11:19 AM
</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote </td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">Quote: from RoNx777 on 7:29 am on Jan. 14, 2002
so i really can go wif 45 profile tires??? Cuz i live in NYC and the roads hear a really tough. I had 40's on had 'Teg b4 and it wuz a really bad ride.
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There are a couple other factors to consider in this. &nbsp;First, what other suspension mods and second, what type of tires. &nbsp;Something that many fail to realize is that the sidewalls of a tire perform a significant amount of suspension duties. &nbsp;Also, there are 45 series tires with sidewalls softer than 60 series tires. &nbsp;You should combine this analysis when chosing a tire. &nbsp;If you are getting a medium duty street tire, you can usually shorten the sidewall a bit and not get your teeth knocked out. &nbsp;But if you buy a stiff sidewall A032 that will not flex, it will create a harsher ride (at any sidewall height). &nbsp;Also, if you have N1 style dampers, you will want softer and larger sidewall tires for street than if you have progressive spings, like Pro-Kits because the tire will be handling more suspension duties.

For the best results, when you are ready to buy, talk to a reputable shop or TireRack. &nbsp;They generally know enough about the various tires to inform you about such characteristics as sidewall rigidity for a variety of makes.

burgy240
01-14-2002, 11:28 AM
I like that thewholefnshow!! &nbsp;I wouldn'y mind sleeping in my car if I could make the backseat comortable!! anyway, Fuck the ethnicity crap. &nbsp;Just drop it. &nbsp;Ignorance always shows and comedy stems from the ability to laugh at yourself....either way the topic was tires not race. &nbsp; &nbsp;Hippo good call with tirerack. &nbsp;those guys are so easy to deal with and always ready to help. &nbsp;

DJ Machine
01-14-2002, 01:32 PM
</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote </td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">Quote: from HippoSleek on 11:10 am on Jan. 14, 2002
[enter overly sensitive person... pc bullshit] DJ - lived in Texas, Arizona, and California and for every Latino w/ a lowrider I saw more poor (taste) white trash examples. Bad taste, criminal tendancies, and the like don't have any genetic codes linking them to one race or another. I will just omit the step about internet protocall and getting personal and add you to the list of immature, ignorant jackasses.
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Did i mention any link between racial background and crime? No, sorry, next point</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote </td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">
I'd like to think of this place as a place to share an interest in cars that crosses ethnic, economic, and social lines. We are all here b/c we enjoy a particular car. We all have the right to be free from prejudgments and insults too. If you cannot respect this right, this is not the place for you.

Now, I'm sure to you, this is no big deal and if it hurts someone's feelings - oh well. But the point is that adding ethnicity to your descirptive served no purpose. White, black, yellow, and brown people all drive lowriders - any reason to single one group out? None other than to stereotype and impose your ignorance on the whole community. Then to go back and add a racial epithet and stereotype... boy, you just keep looking better! Thanks for sharing, jackass!
</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote </td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE"> Ok so you're going to tell me 99% of the people with lowriders aren't latino? Sure.</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote </td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">
In closing, have fun with your cheap ass tires (more proof of your ignorance... Nitto!), your new found dubz (aRe tHeY cHrOmE, dAwG?), and you future installation of &quot;bags.&quot; You are sure to join to ranks of riceboys that will make our community look bad. Fortunately, opening your mouth will confirm your ignorance and hopefully spare the 240 community the embarassment of having an intelligent member with bad taste be discovered.</td></tr></table><span id='postcolor'> I'm failing to see anything wrong with Nitto tires, i've seen mostly good reviews of them, and as for the rims, im fairly sure they're better in quality than anything you've got.</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote </td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">

Doing a search of your past activity here at Zilvia, I must admit - this post is a fair reflection of you love of tacky accessories and failing to be concerned with the performance potential of your vehicle. Body kits, wheels, seats, stereos. You are the definition of rice boy!</td></tr></table><span id='postcolor'> So because i am satisfied with the (nearly) stock performance of my vehicle, i am somehow a riceboy? I intend to show my car, and headers don't get you any bonus points.
</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote </td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">
In the future, why don't you take the 20 seconds to do a yahoo search for &quot;tire size correction&quot; and find the info yourself.</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote </td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE"> Gee, that's a really intelligent question, maybe because 240SX's are rare cars and *GASP* the proper place to find advice on this particular application would be a (get ready for it) 240SX forum!?

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I'm sure the advice you get around here couldn't be trusted, as our ranks include a host of ethnic groups who are much less intelligent than yourself! Another reason to learn this technique would be because you are unlikely to find too much help here from some of the most helpful people. Personally, I would remind members of your beliefs every chance I get. Worst of luck, fucktard.
</td></tr></table><span id='postcolor'>What beliefs would that be? &nbsp;The only belief i've REMOTELY made apparent is the fact that most of the people who own lowriders are hispanic,

mistert
01-14-2002, 01:50 PM
do any of these lowriders happen to have big NIKE checkmarks on the rear window?

HippoSleek
01-14-2002, 04:21 PM
Since I hate quotes w/n quotes here, I will just respond as they are written and take the liberty of paraphrasing:

1) &nbsp;Your link b/n ethnicity and criminal propensity -
</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote </td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">Quote: from DJ Machine on 8:49 pm on Jan. 13, 2002
</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote </td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">Actually, if the afformentioned mexicans were the ones coming after me, i'd most likely get stabbed before i got shot.
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I dunno - maybe I'm reading between the lines, but a racial slur + mention of &quot;most likely&quot; stabbing or shooting (both crimes, btw) seems to equate to an implication of criminal tendencies. &nbsp;Or maybe it's just me?

2) &nbsp;Yes, I will tell you that 99% of people with lowriders are not Latino. &nbsp;Note that &quot;Lowrider Magazine&quot; is also sold in Japan and printed in Japanese and features... Asians. &nbsp;I would also relay my personal experiences from living in three of the four border states with Mexico and note that even in the lowrider capitals of the US, a shocking number are owned by white kids from the suburbs with lots of disposable income and very little taste. &nbsp;Or I could note that lowriders are found all over our great nation - not just in areas where there are Latinos. &nbsp;Or you could do me one better and document how you arrived at this 99% conclusion of yours?

3) &nbsp;Nittos suck. &nbsp;Seeing as how your are research inept, I can't expect too much, but for a review try: &nbsp;
http://www.240sx.org/links/product-review/wheels/tires/ &nbsp;
Oh wait - there, 4/5 users said they suck - on a 240! &nbsp;Just like every autoxer, drag-racer, and road racer, 240 owners will tell you Nittos suck, despite the fact that they sponsor a lot of cars at HIN and take out full page ads in Import Tuner, SuperStreet and SCC. &nbsp;Now about the wheels - I noticed in your other post that you were buying Axis in 17&quot; or larger - the Ne-O. &nbsp;Assuming you bought those in a 17x7, your wheel weighs in at nearly 21lbs! &nbsp;My factory alloys are closer to 16lbs. &nbsp;Thanks - I'll keep what I have - especially in light of the fact that we run the same size contact patch. &nbsp;Better quality? &nbsp;NO - but they are a decent looking knock off of a nice wheel.

4) &nbsp;Riceboyishness = wings plus body kits plus wheels plus racing seats plus boomin' systems minus any performance upgrades. &nbsp;A show car with a racing seat is just stupid - a useless acessory (as your car couldn't generate the lateral g's to necessitate it (especially w/ Nittos)) - which is the hallmark of the rice movement. &nbsp;(btw: headers DO get points in shows).

5) &nbsp;Going to a 240 board for wheel/tire info. &nbsp;First, it was a directive, not a question. &nbsp;The correct question you should have asked yourself was - where do you go for wheel and tire fitment issues? &nbsp;You failed to do that yahoo search - which would have yielded that answer without taking time for someone else to run the search and plug your numbers into the boxes. &nbsp;And don't kid yourself - they don't sell &quot;240sx&quot; tires, especially on 17&quot; rims. &nbsp;Your question was not about clearance or anything remotely relating to the car... but nice try.

6) &nbsp;Beliefs espoused: &nbsp;1) lowriders are driven only by Mexicans; &nbsp;2) Mexicans are spics; &nbsp;3) &nbsp;spics would stab or shoot you; &nbsp;4) your mouth is a good place for your foot. &nbsp;If you don't think you've made these beliefs more than REMOTELY clear (see initial quote regarding 99%, not &quot;most&quot;) then you are even stupider than I initially thought. &nbsp;

I'll level with you - I don't really like to squabble on messasge boards, but there are two things that I just don't let go by - racism and lies. &nbsp;Your posts have included racial stereotyping and slurs. &nbsp;In my mind, that's racism and I don't care to see it in here. &nbsp;If you want to chat with your friends about it, it's a free country, but in an open forum such as this where it has the potential to offend members it is not appropriate. &nbsp;What you do with your car is your business - show or go - I really don't care, but after your actions I feel I'm not going overboard in picking on you. &nbsp;

If you didn't mean anything harmful or stereotypical we can be done with this. &nbsp;ADMIT you meant no harm, APOLOGIZE to any that might have inadvertantly taken offense, and try NOT to make a comment that could be taken that way in the future. &nbsp;If you can't do that, I doubt your sincerity and will take everything you said in the worst possible context. &nbsp;So?

01-14-2002, 05:04 PM
uh i think everyone needs to quit being a jew.......heh j/k apologies please

Kid Zelda
01-14-2002, 05:14 PM
Its come to no surprise that DJ Machine with &nbsp;22 post (as of now) would post this type of stuff. &nbsp;


&nbsp;He's stuck in the 50's !

LanceS13
01-14-2002, 05:15 PM
I've tolerated it enough. &nbsp;PC Bullshit or not...this is a public forum and everyone here, no matter their race or background, should be able to come here and ask sensible questions and talk about car stuff and maybe a few off topic things without being offended by another member's thoughtless remarks. &nbsp;I'm not absolutely apalled b/c I've seen much more blatant forms of racism...but what has been said here could very well be taken with offense; so cool it down. &nbsp;I'm giving this thread a chance to get back on topic...any more bickering, racism, etc. and I'm closing it.

DJ Machine
01-14-2002, 06:33 PM
</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote </td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">Quote: from HippoSleek on 4:21 pm on Jan. 14, 2002
Since I hate quotes w/n quotes here, I will just respond as they are written and take the liberty of paraphrasing:

1) Your link b/n ethnicity and criminal propensity -
</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote </td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">Quote: from DJ Machine on 8:49 pm on Jan. 13, 2002
</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote </td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">Actually, if the afformentioned mexicans were the ones coming after me, i'd most likely get stabbed before i got shot.
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I dunno - maybe I'm reading between the lines, but a racial slur + mention of &quot;most likely&quot; stabbing or shooting (both crimes, btw) seems to equate to an implication of criminal tendencies. Or maybe it's just me?

2) Yes, I will tell you that 99% of people with lowriders are not Latino. Note that &quot;Lowrider Magazine&quot; is also sold in Japan and printed in Japanese and features... Asians. I would also relay my personal experiences from living in three of the four border states with Mexico and note that even in the lowrider capitals of the US, a shocking number are owned by white kids from the suburbs with lots of disposable income and very little taste. Or I could note that lowriders are found all over our great nation - not just in areas where there are Latinos. Or you could do me one better and document how you arrived at this 99% conclusion of yours?

3) Nittos suck. Seeing as how your are research inept, I can't expect too much, but for a review try:
http://www.240sx.org/links/product-review/wheels/tires/
Oh wait - there, 4/5 users said they suck - on a 240! Just like every autoxer, drag-racer, and road racer, 240 owners will tell you Nittos suck, despite the fact that they sponsor a lot of cars at HIN and take out full page ads in Import Tuner, SuperStreet and SCC. Now about the wheels - I noticed in your other post that you were buying Axis in 17&quot; or larger - the Ne-O. Assuming you bought those in a 17x7, your wheel weighs in at nearly 21lbs! My factory alloys are closer to 16lbs. Thanks - I'll keep what I have - especially in light of the fact that we run the same size contact patch. Better quality? NO - but they are a decent looking knock off of a nice wheel.

4) Riceboyishness = wings plus body kits plus wheels plus racing seats plus boomin' systems minus any performance upgrades. A show car with a racing seat is just stupid - a useless acessory (as your car couldn't generate the lateral g's to necessitate it (especially w/ Nittos)) - which is the hallmark of the rice movement. (btw: headers DO get points in shows).

5) Going to a 240 board for wheel/tire info. First, it was a directive, not a question. The correct question you should have asked yourself was - where do you go for wheel and tire fitment issues? You failed to do that yahoo search - which would have yielded that answer without taking time for someone else to run the search and plug your numbers into the boxes. And don't kid yourself - they don't sell &quot;240sx&quot; tires, especially on 17&quot; rims. Your question was not about clearance or anything remotely relating to the car... but nice try.

6) Beliefs espoused: 1) lowriders are driven only by Mexicans; 2) Mexicans are spics; 3) spics would stab or shoot you; 4) your mouth is a good place for your foot. If you don't think you've made these beliefs more than REMOTELY clear (see initial quote regarding 99%, not &quot;most&quot;) then you are even stupider than I initially thought.

I'll level with you - I don't really like to squabble on messasge boards, but there are two things that I just don't let go by - racism and lies. Your posts have included racial stereotyping and slurs. In my mind, that's racism and I don't care to see it in here. If you want to chat with your friends about it, it's a free country, but in an open forum such as this where it has the potential to offend members it is not appropriate. What you do with your car is your business - show or go - I really don't care, but after your actions I feel I'm not going overboard in picking on you.

If you didn't mean anything harmful or stereotypical we can be done with this. ADMIT you meant no harm, APOLOGIZE to any that might have inadvertantly taken offense, and try NOT to make a comment that could be taken that way in the future. If you can't do that, I doubt your sincerity and will take everything you said in the worst possible context. So?
</td></tr></table><span id='postcolor'>Well, congratulations for reading FAR TOO MUCH into next to nothing, I was hoping i'd come back to this thread and not see a post from you, since you're such a PC thug, and will make a mountain out of the tiniest mole-hill, i guess it can't be helped.

2. As for the 99%, i'm definately sure it's not COMPLETELY correct, considering i pulled the figure out of my ass, but when i look at a lowrider magazine and see almost ALL latino's, and definately all latino models on the cars, that tells me something. As for Japanese lowrider, i'd like to see that, considering the fact that i've read Lowrider for over a YEAR and never seen a mention of a Japanese lowrider magazine anywhere in it.

3. A larger wheel weighs more? *GASP!* Who'd have thought? And i fail to see what the Ne-O's are a &quot;cheap knockoff&quot; of.

4. Matter of preference, and i bet i'd see more poinrts powdercoating my existing headers than id see buying new ones.

5. I never said they were, but there are MOST LIKELY people here running 17's with both a 40 sidewall and others with a 45 sidewall, i was looking for input from both.

6.
(1). No, if you'd do a little reading comprehension i said that MOST lowriders were driven by latinos, never all.
(2) I never implied anything of the type, someone said &quot;whoa ho ho! you cant say mexicans on here, PC thugs (i guess he meant people like you) will come lynch you!&quot;, so i retorted with something worse, he seemed to get the joke, too bad your ass is a little too tight for it.
(3). Reading comprehension again here, big guy, mistert said &quot;watch out, theyll shoot you, string you up! feed you to the sharks!&quot; i made the comment that if the same &quot;mexicans&quot; i mentioned before were the ones coming to get me, i'd most likely be stabbed before i was shot, a reference to the fact that latinos are more likely to use knives instead of guns compared to other ethnic groups.

I didn't mean any harm, but damned if i'll apologize because someone had their panties in a bunch and couldn't see a joke (which you'll remark, was in bad taste) for what it was.

LanceS13
01-14-2002, 06:43 PM
alright...that's it.
A whole 9 posts in this 28 post thread have to do with the original subject. &nbsp;There should be enough info here to make a decision on tire size....closing.