need aliitle info on 1jz swap

[BadazzSr20]

ok i been reading like crazy so i know what motor to get here are the pictures.

http://i869.photobucket.com/albums/ab256/Thenoob2/photo.jpg

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ok so thats the motor im looking at buying. from i can see so far with just these pictures is that its a chaser motor with a 7m trany please correct me if im wrong.

what im warried about is being that its a 7m trany leads me to think that

A. the motor has be played with cause thats not the stock trany that comes with a chaser.

Or

B. thats the right trany that comes with this chaser and its out of a 89 -92 chaser witch in turn will mean its a old motor.

i know they say that the motors shipped in from japan is 50 -75k miles. but im not sure about this. i can see from the pictures ill need a extension for the trany right off the bat.

i guess what im a asking is should i pass on this motor and hold out for something that might be little better. i was looking for a chaser or a soar trany that has the extension already and saves me a few bucks.

the shop is saying i can look over the motor as much as i need to make me feel good about the buy. but i read this shop is shady but you know how it is when your in business you cant please everyone so all places have some type of bad comets about it.

i just want some input from the follow 1jzers and 2jzers that know about this.

the motor is coming from jdm engine depot out of orlando.

im looking for a stright up chaser or soar motor with the right trany that will just drop right into my s14. not looking to drop an extra 350.00 for a extension on top of the sale price of the motor.

any info on this shop or any info on this please chime in!

thanks guys

[waste_of_space]

Just have the owner of the motor verify if it's a w58 tranny with the 1jz bellhousing (which looks new because of the purple paint on top) or an r154 from an mkIII with 1jz bellhousing. If it's the r154 it's probably worth snagging up. What's the asking price on this motor?
Either way you always have to get the shifter extension, regardless of where the r154 came from as far as I know (when using them in an s chassis anyways); unless they came on the soarer/chaser's trans's or something

I've got a 2j from an aristo with an mkIII trans and 1j front bellhousing. There's companies that do it for around $250 with a core I believe. But I guess if you're worried about the $250 or $350, it's not a swap for you (because there's still motor mounts and conversion mounts and a driveshaft and wiring, and swapping out the hydrofan setup list goes on and on)
You should build up the tranny too with marlin crawler parts so you don't end up with no 1st or 2nd gear lol. Easier to do all the stuff while it's out instead of pulling it down the road. Do it once, do it right.

And when/if you get it, just do the normal preventative maintanence while you have it out so you know it's running good (front/rear main seals, valve cover gaskets/grommets, replace old cracked/worn rubber hoses, do the timing belt, get yourself a 2j pump to eliminate the hydro fan setup, get fancy pulleys; the usual stuff)

So basically, 1j's are awesome, 2j's are awesomer (Personally I'd wait for a 2j, but that's just me). If you want a relatively "cheap" swap though, you need to look at other motor options.

Also the whole "89-92" making it an old motor, think of all the people that do red top swaps in SR's and have great success on their "old" motors. Just freshen it up and it should be fine, assuming it was fine before.

Edit: Here's some more info regarding the shifter's to make it more cost effective for you (though I can't say for sure they'd work on a 240 because I'm not sure how much the shifter actually gets extended when people get them modified)
http://www.supraforums.com/forum/showthread.php?477519-How-to-get-a-MK3-R154-to-suit-the-MKIV-for-76-(-bellhousing)&p=5824871#post5824871

[landins13]

the r-154 you want looks like this http://i288.photobucket.com/albums/ll192/landins13/S13%20Build%202011-2012/Picture006.jpg http://[IMG]http://i288.photobucket.com/albums/ll192/landins13/S13%20Build%202011-2012/Picture016.jpg
http://i288.photobucket.com/albums/ll192/landins13/S13%20Build%202011-2012/Picture016.jpg


that is the factory shifter extension that will allow you to not have to get an extension made or from a swap company. Expect to spend 300-500 more for one of these since they are harder to find and in greater demand.

If youre worried about the age of the moment buy a vvti 1jz with an auto trans and then source the r154 by itself. This is what i did and i just got the car back on the road 2 days ago. Im running the vvti 1jz with the tomei arms turbo upgrade all in all i spent 3500 less than a stock 2jz would have cost me and i make 35 more hp with the turbo and a street tune.

[waste_of_space]

You tagged a picture wrong, but here you go
http://i288.photobucket.com/albums/ll192/landins13/S13%20Build%202011-2012/Picture016.jpg

[BadazzSr20]

cool thanks so much for the input. i guess im going to pass on this motor and and see what else i can find. i need the chaser transmission pretty much or the extension. trying to get it all in 1 swap without having to buy it on the side.


i might just have to break down and pay 2600.00 or this swap cause everyone that i found is about that price.i was hoping to just get one for 22 or 2300 and be done.

i found another place online that all be calling in the morning that might have one. its call jdm engine zone there ebay is 98% and the BBB show like 4 complaints. that doesnt seem to bad its worth a shot there outa jersey so i got my figers crossed!!

im goal is to try and do this full swap wire harness,downpipe,driveshaft for 4k max!!

so the cheaper i get the motor the easyer it will be to get my goal but man there not making it easy for me:ddog:

ill keep the search going!!

thanks guys

keep the info comming

[waste_of_space]

You might be better off getting the trans separately then. My friend got an auto 1jz from
Jdm engine zone (through their site, not eBay) and it was only like $1150 shipped to his front door. He needed an extra slip yoke to make his driveshaft and they gave it to him for free. He had nothing but good things to say about them and their customer service so I'd say go for it and find an r154 separately to help you stay on budget. $1150 for the motor, sell the auto setup, 1jz bell housing is $350 (brand new, and you might find a jz r154 and not need this) shifter extension is $350 (using your price quote), maybe $500 in the trans and clutch, chasebays wiring is $800 (much cheaper, if you're skilled at wiring), eBay mounts are $200, custom driveshaft is probably cheap at a local driveshaft shop.

So around $3300 for most of the basic stuff, plus you'd get a little back for selling the auto trans. And if you find a trans that already has the extension you'd save another $350 and would have over a grand for the downpipe and other small things. It all adds up quick though, so a good rule of thumb is to take your budget, and double it for the "just in case" stuff.

[BadazzSr20]

You might be better off getting the trans separately then. My friend got an auto 1jz from
Jdm engine zone (through their site, not eBay) and it was only like $1150 shipped to his front door. He needed an extra slip yoke to make his driveshaft and they gave it to him for free. He had nothing but good things to say about them and their customer service so I'd say go for it and find an r154 separately to help you stay on budget. $1150 for the motor, sell the auto setup, 1jz bell housing is $350 (brand new, and you might find a jz r154 and not need this) shifter extension is $350 (using your price quote), maybe $500 in the trans and clutch, chasebays wiring is $800 (much cheaper, if you're skilled at wiring), eBay mounts are $200, custom driveshaft is probably cheap at a local driveshaft shop.

So around $3300 for most of the basic stuff, plus you'd get a little back for selling the auto trans. And if you find a trans that already has the extension you'd save another $350 and would have over a grand for the downpipe and other small things. It all adds up quick though, so a good rule of thumb is to take your budget, and double it for the "just in case" stuff.

well theres a local guy i just found here that will sell me a soar motor with a chaser trany with the front sump for 2600.00+ tax so thats like 2800. from there ill just need harness and driveshaft and ebay mounts i got already. 800 is alittle much for a harness im going to still call jdm engine zone and see if they have my swap for a cheaper price. but by buying my motor for 2600 is going to run me higher then i wanted to be in this swap. my goal was to be at 3500.00 4k TOPs on this and the more i get into the higher the swap is getting. i need the full motor swap for 2300.00 shipped to me and ill be in my rang for my goal after all said and done. i might be a few hundred off maybe.but thats 2800 is just really messing me up. im glad to hear that your boy had a good run with them. i hope i get the same run if they have my motor.
P.S to by the r154 separately that trany selling for 1800 from what im hearing i haven't looked into it. but the trany itself is going to run me some money but what im hearing.

[waste_of_space]

Here's a longblock with turbos and most sensors for $900.
eBay - New & used electronics, cars, apparel, collectibles, sporting goods & more at low prices (http://www.ebay.com/itm/TOYOTA-SUPRA-CHASER-1JZGTTE-2-5L-TWIN-TURBO-ENGINE-LONG-BLOCK-/220285424597?hash=item334a08d3d5&item=220285424597&pt=Motors_Car_Truck_Parts_Accessories&vxp=mtr)

You'd still need to get an ECU (or you could use this as a chance to go standalone) and get a wiring harness (the $800 one from chase bays would be your best bet instead of having to source and attempt to splice the KA and JZ harnesses)
Then get your trans seperately. My friend with a 1jz in his cressida got a trans after his shit the bed for around $400 I believe. You could always get an MKIII r154 and just pay to get the shifter extension made (instead of getting the oem one which is more expensive than just modifying it).

[landins13]

only real reason to get the oem one is that it feels better when shifting it is also about the same price difference as ordering one of the pre-made adapter housings. if you make your own extension youll save a good it of money that way.

i lucked out and traded the original r154 i had for the one i now have with the extension to a guy who needed the non-extended type trans for his cressida swap. i threw a little cash in on top but ended up not spending anywhere near what i would have to try to find the trans with the extension and buy it out right.

[waste_of_space]

IDK about the feel, the link I posted earlier had comparisons and since the fulcrum point never changes the way the shift should all feel exactly the same lol.

[BadazzSr20]

ok i found my motor and tranys. i got a soar motor and a chaser trans with shifter extension getting from a local guy next to me witch is great!!!!

also i was reading my bible again last night '

http://zilvia.net/f/engine-tech/384161-2jzgte-swapped-s-chassis-thread-6.html

and came across a guy name ben Freed Engineering (http://freedengineering.com/)
that someone posted in that thread

i talked to him today and he said that he will do my harness for me. very good price no less. i just want to know if theres any info on this guy or shop?

im planing on sending him my harnesses from both motor so he can wire up my car for me. he said it will be a plug and play. i would love to know if anyone used them and if there stright up guys?

thanks for helping me out BTW waste of space and everyone else.



well i just did alittle homework myself and look it here... this is a great find for anyone trying to do this swap. i hope this helps people out in the later days to come.
http://www.supraforums.com/forum/showthread.php?623334-Freed-Engineering