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Well thanks for all the help you guys on helping me out with trying to make up my mind what kind of car to get.. I finally made up my mind on what to get.
A 97 or a 98 240SX TT Navy Mettallic Blue with Silver... and a targa top with an S14b bodykit...
Takumi
01-13-2002, 08:18 AM
Wait..what the ####?
TT as in "twin-turbo"? Targa top? 240SX's don't even HAVE those options. Good luck finding one with 'em. x_X
s14vaxlr8
01-13-2002, 09:44 AM
yeah sounds kinda fishy to me, but if you find it, snatch it up!!!!
sounds like you're talking about 300zx or supra, they got targa top with TT
Man, she's really confused.
I don't think that BF of her's is doin his job <img src="http://www.zilvia.net/f/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/smile.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=':)'>
No 240's in the US came with a turbo and as far as the roof they were either sunroof/moonroof or a solid roof.
You could put a twin sequential turbo system (small turbo spools up first then big turbo takes over reducing turbo lag) on the 240 engine but it still wouldn't be considered TT. As for the roof you could have it cut but it would be $$$ and your car would lose a lot of its rigidness. I say just get a 300zxTT with T-tops they are sweet and really fast, but 240s are a lot lighter and a much more comfortable ride.
(Edited by DSC at 11:13 am on Jan. 13, 2002)
s14vaxlr8
01-13-2002, 11:05 AM
i thought only the mk4 had the targa top, but it was a single turbo(i may be confused with the "mk' reference, im refering to the before94 model) the 300zx were t tops before 90 and t top/ targo tt 90-96, not 100% though
Takumi
01-13-2002, 12:15 PM
If we did help her choose her car, we obviously didn't do a good job. o_O
240booster
01-13-2002, 01:01 PM
LOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOL ROTFLMMFAOOOOOOO!!!!!! OMG!!!! WHAT THE #### BABY LMAO, #### GURL UR MAKING ME LOOK BAD!! Holly shit, #### c she wanted a Supra , 300ZX, and a 240SX AAHH, so i guess she just kinda combined them all and came up with that!!!!!!!! HAHAHAHAHAHAH. OK u should definetly consult with me now before posting nemore!!! :-P
Well I was actually meaning that I was gonna put the TT and Targa top on there after i got the 240 SX LoL Sorry didnt mean to confuse you...
BlankFlip
01-13-2002, 01:35 PM
:confused: what?!?
Takumi
01-13-2002, 02:30 PM
Twin-turbo = pain in the ass and not worth the trouble.
Targa Top = Uh...good luck. o_O
If you wanted a twin-turbo car with a targa top, get yourself a Supra or a 300ZX. It's a #### of a lot cheaper than trying to get that done to a 240SX.
240booster
01-13-2002, 02:51 PM
OK OK welll i retract my previous statement. She says that's what she wants and i told her nething was possible with enough $$$$$. She also says she knows someone who can do the targa roof for her so more power to ya babe. :-P Neway, LOL it will definitely be a unique one of a kind .... Nebody no of a good 97-98 S14b for sale?<img src="http://www.zilvia.net/f/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/confused.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt='???'>
tnord
01-13-2002, 03:25 PM
i'm sorry but that is just absolutely absurd, i usually try not to say anything about people's personal preferences, but a 240 with a dual stage turbo and a targa roof? seriously think about what you're trying to do, the car will be in the shop more than you'll be driving it, a decent 97-98 S14 will cost you at least 12 grand, an SR20DET will cost you what, 7 grand installed? then buying another turbo is another thousand or two i'd say, and a targa roof? another 1500 maybe? you're into the car for over 20 grand then, you could get a Z32TT for way less than that, i'm going to have to say that a 240TT targa is not an intelligent decision
wyldchyld7x
01-13-2002, 05:28 PM
I say get the 240, swap in the sr20det, and go ahead and chop the top, Your car will be totally unique and if you loose much ridgedness install a cage in the back.
DragonReborn214
01-13-2002, 05:44 PM
If you "did" actually install a tagra top aftermarket, it would be a death trap in an accident.
sykikchimp
01-13-2002, 05:47 PM
you know I think this sounds like one #### of a show car.. very sweet idea.. I think it would be very cool if someone could photoshop a pic of a 240sx with no roof.. Targa stye <img src="http://www.zilvia.net/f/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/smile.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=':)'>
my240likenoother
01-13-2002, 06:12 PM
</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote </td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">Quote: from sykikchimp on 8:47 pm on Jan. 13, 2002
you know I think this sounds like one #### of a show car.. very sweet idea.. I think it would be very cool if someone could photoshop a pic of a 240sx with no roof.. Targa stye <img src="http://www.zilvia.net/f/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/smile.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=':)'></td></tr></table><span id='postcolor'>
i hear that very cool on a s13
and about the twin turbo i would rather have one BIG turbo
Zemus
01-13-2002, 07:41 PM
The only way i know of to put TT in a 240 is to get a 300zx or rb26dett engine, both are tt, but both are super heavy and are a pain to put in a 240, im considering a rb26 but im not sure yet
Kid Zelda
01-13-2002, 07:50 PM
I'm thinking of putting in a Honda CBR motor into my UFO
I just cant change my mind ... its already made up I have to do this... maybe i might slide a little on the TT but i know its possible, just not really sure if it will slow the car down any because of the weight and everything but im looking into it...
Why can't you change your mind? Just do some research for the next couple weeks and test drive some cars till you find what you want. Make sure you like it totally stock incase you run out of money and can't mod it...
Drifting Ricer
01-13-2002, 09:29 PM
o_0<img src="http://www.zilvia.net/f/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/confused.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt='???'> ¬_¬ wtf? huh? TT targa top? Boy you nust have shit load of $$$ to do that? With that cash I'll make s14 with a SR into a 350HP SCCA road racer car!
BlankFlip
01-13-2002, 09:46 PM
</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote </td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">Quote: from Luv on 9:51 pm on Jan. 13, 2002
I just cant change my mind ... its already made up I have to do this... maybe i might slide a little on the TT but i know its possible, just not really sure if it will slow the car down any because of the weight and everything but im looking into it...
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if ur driving straight, it's not going to slow the car down. no need to look into it. just look at stuff on this site n just don't assume nething yet, doesn't seem to be working. not trying to be a prick, just want to help show u the way :biggrin:
DuffMan
01-13-2002, 09:59 PM
*in conan o'brian voice*
W-w-whhhhaaaaaaaat?
IceTekGuy
01-13-2002, 10:00 PM
#### THIS GIRL IS <h1>WACKED!!!!</h1>
listen chicky, you got your stuff all wrong, i know for a fact that you have a 300ZX and a 240SX ALL MESSED UP...
if you twin turbo a 240SX you should go to a shrink, why would you degrade?
a single turbo spools up twice as fast as 2,...
and if you want to targa it, the have fun payin 4 g's,
my good friends dad does all types of roofs, and with somethin like that you would need the whole car to be reinforced, or the thing would just crumple in the wind...lol
and your gonna be dishin out some cash for the color you want...
If your right and really bent on this project, get ready to dish out atleast 12 g's for the job if not more...
<img src="http://www.zilvia.net/f/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/wink.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=';)'>
I'm sorry, but Luv, you sound like you have "more dollars than sense" as my mamma used to say. You sound like you know *very* little about cars. If thats the case, why are you making all these demands on your future car criterias?? Just start off with something nice and cheap so you know basics like how to drive, and park, and fill the gas, and did I mention how to drive?? Then after all that , go out and buy some inexpensive mods like an exhaust and intake. You're a fool to run out and get an S14b then chop the top and bolt on a new engine. Have you no idea what these mods will do to the driveabiltiy of the car? Its not like swapping clothes on a Barbie doll or something.
Sorry folks, but poseurs just plain bug me...
JZ
PS. Flame away...
IceTekGuy
01-13-2002, 10:11 PM
AHHHHHHHHHHHAAAAA YEA YA!!!!!!! YOU THE MAN!!!!!!!
Car Poser?<img src="http://www.zilvia.net/f/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/confused.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt='???'> yea i'm leanin towards yes, with those fantasies she has.
as my momma used to say to me,
"STOP BEING A FU$%ING DREAMER!!!" <---- the truth
Takumi
01-13-2002, 10:13 PM
I personally think those posts were a joke. No one in their right mind would seriously consider doing all that. I can stand it when people ask if they can fit a V8 into a 240SX, but this takes the cake in the "I PEROSNALLY THINK THIS IZ KEWL AND I DONT CARE IF IT DON'T WERK I WILL MAKE IT WERK HURHURHURHUR" department.
Excuse me, I'm very opinionated right now. =)
mistert
01-13-2002, 10:29 PM
i think she should just get a bubblegum pink civic hatch
zephyr
01-13-2002, 10:37 PM
####...if i had 7 or 8 grand to spend on a sr20dett id just get the sr swap for 4 grand then add all the goodies like intercooler, boost controller, exhaust, etc then slap on a t66 turbo or something ridiculous for the same price...it'd be faster too
it would be funnie if it was really 240booster...mod wana check the IP? I don't think it is though, I just think its someone new to the car sene...in which case probably doesn't appricate some of these responces.
OK first off ... its gonna be "MY" car... and 2nd my uncle does body work and has done told me that he would put in a targa top for me but only if i was for sure thats what i wanted and he was gonna paint my car for me totaling up with both of up to about 1g's Not bad i dont think... and as far as the turbo thing goes im not very up to date ob this shit but I know for a fact that it is possible and could work out to be a great car if i did that... because id have the sr20dett with an additional turbo added but Im not really sure what im gonna do about that yet .. still deciding, but so far im leaning towards the Hybrid.
tnord
01-13-2002, 10:58 PM
some people learn the hard way i guess
oh yeah
one more thing
Im not a pink person dammit
I hate pink
chickenmanq
01-13-2002, 11:47 PM
</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote </td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">Quote: from Luv on 10:55 pm on Jan. 13, 2002
OK first off ... its gonna be "MY" car... and 2nd my uncle does body work and has done told me that he would put in a targa top for me but only if i was for sure thats what i wanted and he was gonna paint my car for me totaling up with both of up to about 1g's Not bad i dont think... and as far as the turbo thing goes im not very up to date ob this shit but I know for a fact that it is possible and could work out to be a great car if i did that... because id have the sr20dett with an additional turbo added but Im not really sure what im gonna do about that yet .. still deciding, but so far im leaning towards the Hybrid.
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K, I'm a big time dreamer, but 1000 U.S. dollars for a custom targa top and paint job? What's the story on this uncle of yours? He work for the mob? As far as taking a semi-new 240, and immediately sticking a new engine in it, I'm all for it if you have the cash.
HOWEVER, it sounds like you don't know what you want, and you're going to end up with a half-assed project car that never materializes. And why the #### would you dish out the extra money for the small increase of a second turbo? Why not stick the Pathfinder engine in it if you're looking to make a custom 240sx? It's got 240 horses, and some ungodly amount of torque. That'll move you right quick. Better than the SR20DET or TT. Much less, it'll last longer.
Stick to the forums for another month, learn some more about automobiles, then go back to picking the car you want, IMHO.
chickenmanq
01-13-2002, 11:49 PM
By the way, would you jackasses quit that "flaming" crap? It's getting old. Christ, the board looks like it's being overrun with reactionary 12 year olds.
tnord
01-13-2002, 11:53 PM
thank you chickenman, i left 240sx.org for that very reason, and i've seen it developing here as well
DuffMan
01-14-2002, 12:37 AM
If your uncle is good at what he does, it might turn out to be an interesting project.
Maybe you could import parts from an actual SR20DETT to get that to work. Honestly though, it wouldn't be faster than a single turbo setup, especially on a 4-cyl motor.
NOSfEDs12vh45dett
01-14-2002, 04:37 AM
Sweet, and good luck. Go for a SR20DET, Above make it your own.
dave2u
01-14-2002, 05:32 AM
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*in conan o'brian voice*
W-w-whhhhaaaaaaaat?
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hahaaa ! I watch conan obrien on NBC every fri and sat night over here. He`s boss <img src="http://www.zilvia.net/f/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/smile.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=':)'>
Nice One !
Those 2 guys who sit and argue in the crowd are the funniest guys on the planet.
"conan he`s got the same sweater on as me but i was here first could you ask him to leave" hehe
ka24et
01-14-2002, 07:55 AM
Jennifer,
I just want to add, that what you are trying to do does seem a bit shocking, especially for a newbie to 240SX's and maybe even performance cars in general? (just my impression)
But I've also seen that many people who try something new are often critisized exactly like you were here and they end up actually pulling it off in quiet on their own and all the critics are silenced and amazed.
I only recommend that you consult with some experts about your TT conversion (on the KA or a SR). Either way it's going to be an expert only affair. I am also assuming that you have quite a bit of pocket change and time to spare. BTW, TT 240's do exist, and they aren't all RB or VG transplants. I've seen two turbo's (I don't think they were sequential) on a SR before (in pics). Each turbo attached to 2 exhaust ports. I don't think a turbo manifold like this exists to purchase, so unless you want to make it yourself or have another uncle that knows how, you need to have a custom pro-welder made thingie made. It's going to cost bucks, especially if you want show quality looks (like it seems you are going for).
Either reconsider, study more, or if you're certain about this, good luck to you. Can't wait to see the finished product. <img src="http://www.zilvia.net/f/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/smile.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=':)'>
IceTekGuy
01-14-2002, 09:32 AM
I call bullshit, on this whole post of hers...
MOD'S?<img src="http://www.zilvia.net/f/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/confused.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt='???'>
shut this insanity down?
you killed my post before for something stupid, so why not kill this post?
people that come up with these types of posts should go to ####... <img src="http://www.zilvia.net/f/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/wink.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=';)'>
240booster
01-14-2002, 10:08 AM
OK OK guys chill out give her a break. Try to help and not flame her. Give her ur opinion and not ur criticism. She is just new to the car scene welllllll import car scene and just gets carried away with her plans sometimes :-P and doesn't totally understand everything. If her uncle can paint the car and do a targa top for $1k then it will be a kick ass car!!! As far as the TT topic i was just reading the 11 month write up in Sport Compact Car magazine last night (Suck, Squish, Bang, Blow), and it specifically says that a TT on a 4 cylinder would bring poor performance and should be used for show applications only. Myself, I would want my car to perform the best it could, so this would definetly not be the route i would go and i don't think it would be for her either ...... maybe not. If I was definetly set on a TT setup i would go with an RB26DETT. Hey S13Grl u listening ....... I don't know if u asked questions like these when u 1st got here but i hope they treated u better than they've treated her ...... help my gurl out please :-)
mistert
01-14-2002, 10:23 AM
TT is only good for engines with 2 banks of cylinders (v6, v8) or a big i-6 (rb26, 2jz). however notice all the supra guys are wanting to upgrade to single turbos (as well as the skyline gt-r guys), unless they need to make over 1000hp which is hard to get out of most single turbos without going ridiculous sized (ever see that pic of the stang with a t100?).
on the subject of a targa top, i wouldnt do this unless you're planning on adding alot of structural reinforcements, such as poly fill of the doorsills and rocker panels. you're going to have some serious chassis flex issues, and if your car ever rolls you're going to snap your neck without a rollcage (also a good idea for chassis reinforcement)
JeffNJ
01-14-2002, 11:22 AM
Don't targa top a car that wasn't supposed to be a targa top. I'll say it before, and I'll say it as often and loudly as need be again: never, under any circumstance whatsoever, touch how well the 240's body is made already.
The day I bought my 240 convertible, I drove my coupe to pick it up and let my friend drive the coupe back. Well, okay, not "let" as much as "asked". And, truth be told, she was doing me a really big favor. But, usually, I never let anyone drive my 240 coupe.
Anyway, the point is, back at my apartment, she said, "Wow, you have smoothest car ever.", and after driving the convertible home from it's drop off location, I said, "Ya know, I think I just realized that tonight too".
The moral of the story, as I promised I would repeat, is to never, ever, EVER tinker with that roof. Even slightly. It's far more perfect now than you can possibly appreciate. You want a different roof, take it from me, get a different car. =)
JeffNJ
01-14-2002, 11:36 AM
I feel the need to stress two things. Sorry for using a seperate post to do that, but I think it'll stress them more this way.
1. I wasn't trying to be offensive, or tell you you're wrong, or anything of that sort. I was only trying to share what I knew and you may not have. I meant it to be helpful, no more, no less.
2. Seriously, don't do this. =)
BlankFlip
01-14-2002, 11:50 AM
umm...this....:o....yeah
vancouvers14
01-14-2002, 12:20 PM
to be perfectly honest, a twin-turbo is a terrible idea on a 4-cylinder. there's a reason no one makes it for an inline 4. As for the targa, even been in one? They squeak, they leak, they're heavy...
Your car will be so heavy after adding in all the reinforcement that you'll need a v8 to get it going. Why do you think the conv. 240 weighs 500 lbs more? If your uncle is just gonna chop it, fine, but you'll die in a crash. Seriously.
btw, what do you drive now? how old are you?
Drifting Ricer
01-14-2002, 04:36 PM
Well it's her $$$$.
Takumi
01-14-2002, 04:43 PM
Whatever dude, we'd just hate to see someone get frustrated with their car if the project doesn't go the way they want it and be disappointed. =/
my240likenoother
01-14-2002, 06:07 PM
</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote </td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">Quote: from chickenmanq on 2:49 am on Jan. 14, 2002
By the way, would you jackasses quit that "flaming" crap? It's getting old. Christ, the board looks like it's being overrun with reactionary 12 year olds.
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thanks it about time some1 said something
crazycuban
01-14-2002, 07:39 PM
yeah, for real, thanks chickenman...
twin turbo impossible on the sr20det? have you kids heard of the ksp engineering 800 horsepower s14 in japan with TWIN TURBOS?
it'd be a helluva long buildup, luv, but shit, its possible and its been done (though i havent heard of one with targas). to have an engine like that ksp engineering one, you'd need tons of miscellaneous parts, engine internals, and of course the turbos - the ksp runs two HKS ball bearing GT series turbos, GT2540s, which would come out to around 4-6000 for the turbos alone. youd would, however, have one of the sickest 240s in the states.
wyldchyld7x
01-14-2002, 07:53 PM
OK lets all calm down a bit. With the exeption of a few people most of you are attacking this girl cuz she is different and that's just dumb. If you own a body shop you can paint a car and chop the top for under a G. So that figure is reasonable. Ofcourse her uncle is not charging her for labor which is cool. As for the twin turbo she readily admitted she didn't know much about it and I'm sure after doing some research Luv will see that a single large turbo is more reasonable; or a different engine choice.
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