Need pics of underhood of TRUE japanese 180sx

[blitz180]

I want to see what all stickers are under the hood and their placement. I want to order all the oem underhood stuff. I found the ignition advancement. Any help appreciated. Thanks. :rawk:

[russian]

I want to see what all stickers are under the hood and their placement. I want to order all the oem underhood stuff. I found the ignition advancement. Any help appreciated. Thanks. :rawk:

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[mrmephistopheles]

why bother? your 240sx will NEVER be a 180sx. No matter how much you make it appear so.
Anyway, auction.yahoo.co.jp.

[GrimDrifter]

technically 180's and 240's were made in the same damn factory with the same parts. we just have a different motor. swap in an sr20 and call it a 180, its close enough

[Dousan_PG]

technically 180's and 240's were made in the same damn factory with the same parts. we just have a different motor. swap in an sr20 and call it a 180, its close enough

same parts? HAHAHAHA no...quite different actually
go look at interiors.
go look at chassis and bumper safety stuff
go look at calipers and rotors.
go look at diffs
compare front ends
examine factory options
examine trim levels
go look go look
quite different.

[russian]

same parts? HAHAHAHA no...quite different actually
go look at interiors.
go look at chassis and bumper safety stuff
go look at calipers and rotors.
go look at diffs
compare front ends
examine factory options
examine trim levels
go look go look
quite different.

:Ownedd: :stupid:

[[email protected]]

same parts? HAHAHAHA no...quite different actually
go look at interiors.
go look at chassis and bumper safety stuff
go look at calipers and rotors.
go look at diffs
compare front ends
examine factory options
examine trim levels
go look go look
quite different.


Damn you and your smarts AARRGGHHH!!!:Ownedd:

[matlock]

technically 180's and 240's were made in the same damn factory with the same parts. we just have a different motor. swap in an sr20 and call it a 180, its close enough
Yeah guys I am thinking of putting an RB in my S13, it will be a skyline then, I mean basically right. They are both nissans so they are practically the same.....hahaha :Ownedd:

[TougeRacing]

lol so harsh on the guy n it was his first post :Ownedd:

[kazuo]

Yeah guys I am thinking of putting an RB in my S13, it will be a skyline then, I mean basically right. They are both nissans so they are practically the same.....hahaha :Ownedd:

Okay, now you're just being a fucking retard.

Sorry bout the harsh language, but its true.

Tossing a CA or a SR into a RHS13 and calling it a 180SX is not much of a strech except for the fact that its LHD. You can argue all you want about stupid shit like trim levels, bumper supports, slightly larger brakes etc etc but it doesnt really fuckin matter.

How come yall diss on the newb about calling his hatch a 180 but nobody says anything to Nadine?

Not intended as a knock on Nadine; I think her car is great and as far as I'm concerned it is a 180SX... just like as far as I was concerned my car was a Silvia.

So leave the poor bastard alone and stop acting like e-thugs... apples and oranges, a matter of opinion.

[Dousan_PG]

ethugs? i'd say it in person too hahahaha

nadine is making her car look good
she knows what it really is though, so no worries. :)

go DRIFTING PRETTY!

[TougeRacing]

not to hijack the thread..but i agree her caar is hootttness

[90sr]

oh why cant we all just get along, lol we all have love for these cars so we should try to be more helpfull rather than more smartass like you know!!! :wiggle:

[matlock]

same parts? HAHAHAHA no...quite different actually
go look at interiors.
go look at chassis and bumper safety stuff
go look at calipers and rotors.
go look at diffs
compare front ends
examine factory options
examine trim levels
go look go look
quite different.

I think there are some more differences besides motor and LHD guy.....and chill out obviously I was joking....I thought it was appearant enough...but obviously I didn't get it past you....you need to chill out.

[matlock]

And I will appologize to GrimDrifter if I was being an ass, but he needs to realize there are more differences than engines...Sorry dood I don't wanna ruin this forum for ya.

[blitz180]

now i remember why i hated forums.....

ran a board search and still got told to use a search engine... by the way if any one can tell me how to get that god damned meta search from popping up everytime i type in yahoo.com or google.com i'd appreciate it.. it's probably a command just chillin in a directory, but i can't find it and spy bot removal software isn't all about finding it....


and what's wrong with trying to be as jdm as possible? our car never came with an sr, ca, or rb.... should we hang up our ideas on that too?

if you wanted to flame, you coulda just went to the forest and dropped a match in it... and of all people it came from dousan who normally has opinions that i understand and respect when i read his threads on here.... oh well

my two cents. cha-ching :( rock on :rawk:

[GlacierFreeze]

What's wrong with Meta Search Engines? They search for Meta Tags...

[TougeRacing]

arent the chassis different also?

[Warwick5s]

and what's wrong with trying to be as jdm as possible? our car never came with an sr, ca, or rb.... should we hang up our ideas on that too?


there's a big difference between putting a superior engine into your car that drops in with a minimal amount of work because it came like that in another place, and trying to be jdm by replacing underhood stickers.

i honestly don't see the point. these cars excel in their driving experience. so why was time/energy/money doing something other than making it more fun to drive? besides...you'll never be 100% jdm unless you BUY a 180sx, so why not just leave it.

[Dousan_PG]

i didnt flame, i told you what to do and examine if you want to be REAL 180sx
people THINK they are same because chassis is s13, but they are not.

im giving you advice and knowledge. sheeesh

[kuruptR]

i didnt flame, i told you what to do and examine if you want to be REAL 180sx
people THINK they are same because chassis is s13, but they are not.

im giving you advice and knowledge. sheeesh

who gives a fuck, drive your peice of shit 240sx's and call them what ever the fuck you want... these arguments about 180sx/240sx are :ghey:
who gives a fuck about the differnces. To every one else it looks like a fucking ford probe. :blah: :blah: :blah:

[TougeRacing]

couldnt he just get a 180sx front clip from japan? so theeen he would have everything in it already? hahaha

[LonePhantom]

How about everyone just chill out and let him do what he wants. If anyone has some valid helpful suggestions then post it. If someone thinks that this guy is wasting their time, or that it's not ever going to be a "real jdm" car then just keep it to themselves. The idea of a forum to get people together with similar interests and work together, not to slag or badmouth others ideas or dreams and tell them they're idiots!

Just my 2 cents

[Dousan_PG]

couldnt he just get a 180sx front clip from japan? so theeen he would have everything in it already? hahaha

no he still wont.

[matlock]

Dousan I understand......

[TougeRacing]

no he still wont.

so wait..that means even the 180 clip wont be 100% 180sx under the hood? strangeeee indeeed well thanx for the info i learn sumthin new! :o

[Dousan_PG]

no i was referring to making it a 'true' 180sx (the entire car, not under hood)

also some clips wont have all the brake stuff too...or body panels (if its kouki) etc..
bumper supports..blah blah blah..

[TougeRacing]

ah ok i gotcha now Dousan! got me confused a little haha

[GrimDrifter]

yeah i heard about you dousan i guess its true! noone likes you. different trim levels whoop de do. all im saying is you can swap in an sr20 and i think you shouldnt be flamed for wanting to call it a 180. shit they didnt change the name to a 200 when they put in the sr, likewise in the UK it had a 1.8 and they called it a 200. sure maybe you cant say its a factory 180, but dam its so closely related. so what if parts are different they bolt right on to a usdm car. if they brought the car here and they left 180 on it, youd be the only ass arguing that they change it to 240. i maybe be a newbie to zilvia but i am the biggest s13 fan out there, ive been driving them for years.

[TougeRacing]

someone gotta lock this thread dood...this thing is getting outta hand

[russian]

stop making your 240sx a fucking 180sx sileighty silforty silvia this silvia that wTF? no matter what its still a 240sx. if you want to put silvia badges - fines call it whatever you want. the factory manual still says 240sx, law enforcement still says 240sx. car trading magazines, insuarance companies. do you have to explain to all the people your car no longer 240sx and is 180sx now? whats the big fucking deal? :goyou: :ughd: :Owned: :Owned:


:lockd: :lockd: lock this pathetic thread please. enough

[Burmonster]

Whats wrong with owning a 240?? I like mine

[matlock]

word burnmonster word to that

[Dousan_PG]

no one likes me because i lay it out straight. correcting your errors and bad information. im blunt and straight forward. people dont like that
no sugar coating here.

[hattenDriftR1]

^ Can you atleast sugar coat my twinkies? hehe. That would be a hella sweet twinkie.

[GrimDrifter]

there is a difference between not sugar coating something and having PMS. Ever since SCC said, "build a turbo silvia for 3k" or calling their 240 buildup "project silvia" i highly doubt any of you were bitching then, i sure didnt see anyone else writing them about it. you guys just have nothing better to do than to pic on newbies but i got news for you im not like the ricers you usually give a hard time.
i also highly doubt if one of your best friends went out and stuck 180sx windows on their car you wouldnt say jack shit. i never made the claim that you can turn a 240 into a factory made 180, but alot of people i know call their 240 a 180 or silvia, i dont get all bent out of shape about it. thats all im going to say im done. i love 240's as much as the next guy so save your arguments for people like supra owners who call our cars "inferior machines"

[Dousan_PG]

SCC for 3K: actually we were. maybe you didnt know about 240sx then, but go read posts on freshalloy back in that time frame. :)

none of my friends put 180sx windows on their car, the person i know who has one owns a real 180sx. :)


if any of my friends put those 180sx 1/4 windows on their car, ill be saying alot (ive done it to them boefre if they put something like that on their car, im not scared to say it). but they all have good taste (for the most part) and rather put that money into a track event then something stupid like that.

[russian]

where you been at??? :duh: you didnt know 180sx stickers under the hood, and rear quarter windows give maad jdm tyte props at your next car show?? :newbie: :newbie: mad points. you are such a noob. :eek3d:

[MakotoS13]

okay, i really don't see why its such a big deal. lets toss some hypothetical jazz out there:

-same exact platform
-puts the motor in from a sistercar
-converts the entire outside appearance to JDM 180SX
-Does the interior as much as possible

it's left hand drive but it has everything that makes a 180SX a 180SX aside from the VIN number. in this case i figure that if it talks the talk AND walks the walk it's all gravy.

then there's the fact that there are a ton of these cars. it isn't a 2000 Cobra R or a Z06. maybe the silvia would be but the 180SX is pretty freaking basic.

this all pretty much comes down to what you want to base your judgement of the car on:

looks and performance or what the window sticker said when it was picked up from the lot.

[TheTicTac]

okay, i really don't see why its such a big deal. lets toss some hypothetical jazz out there:

-same exact platform
-puts the motor in from a sistercar
-converts the entire outside appearance to JDM 180SX
-Does the interior as much as possible

it's left hand drive but it has everything that makes a 180SX a 180SX aside from the VIN number. in this case i figure that if it talks the talk AND walks the walk it's all gravy.

then there's the fact that there are a ton of these cars. it isn't a 2000 Cobra R or a Z06. maybe the silvia would be but the 180SX is pretty freaking basic.

this all pretty much comes down to what you want to base your judgement of the car on:

looks and performance or what the window sticker said when it was picked up from the lot.

You're missing the point, there are differences in the chassis. Subtle differences that putting dumb windows or badges can't change. Call your car whatever you want, just don't preach to us about it and expect to get respect.

[MakotoS13]

the JDM S13 hatch is different from the US version in ways that cannot be cured by swapping parts? my scenario had the stipulation that everything able to be swapped was swapped.

okay, even if they aren't exactly the same down to every little indention on the floorpanels... big effin deal. they still do the same thing with the same heart in almost identical form...

i think my point still stands. it seems to me that it just shows what you base your opinion on. there isn't anything wrong in that, either. that's the beauty of opinions: we can have TONS of em.

[TougeRacing]

heres sumthin to think about...why does anyone really wanna make their 240 into a 180 to the every single detail? its hard, expensive, and doesnt really mean anything to anyone its not gonna be an eye turner..so even if its gonna be "true" 180 (which it wont) no ones gonna notice n to them its regular 240(also in japan 180's=hondas in japan which means u see it everyday), annnnnnnd even if it is an eye turner..if im correct (which i mite be wrong) but its gonna perform just like a 240 with a SR or CA ? well its just my opinion so dont get all hot-headed about it hahahahahaha

[MakotoS13]

i don't see anyone getting upset, man. i don't know why they want to do a full conversion, i prefer performance over aesthetics anyhow. i'm just sorta playing the devil's advocate.

"also in japan 180's=hondas in japan which means u see it everyday"

that's kind of my point. there are so many of em that it doesn't matter who makes it look like a 180. the only people that are gonna care either way are gonna be into S13's so whether or not one chooses to do it would be based on that lovely opinion thing i was tellin ya about. the only reason this would be an option would be for those hardcore 180 fans because its a hell of a lot easier to put a SR20 in it than import one and swap it to left hand drive, i would imagine.

i have the issue of SCC that features that "silvia" and they actually say "this car is now the silvia it was meant to be"

is this argument necessary?

[matlock]

the JDM S13 hatch is different from the US version in ways that cannot be cured by swapping parts? my scenario had the stipulation that everything able to be swapped was swapped.

okay, even if they aren't exactly the same down to every little indention on the floorpanels... big effin deal. they still do the same thing with the same heart in almost identical form...

You hit it on the head right there, you said almost, I think what dousan and a few others are saying is that it won't be a 180SX ever......

[black s13]

about the whole head turner thing, 98% of car people arent gonna say "oh damn, look at the OEM 180sx rear valence!!" the price of making your car as 180sx as possible defenitly wouldnt be worth it for the sole reason of head turning, so few people would even recognize it.

[MakotoS13]

useless, i'm done

[final act]

180s came with same diameter rotors as the z, with bigger one piston calipers than the stock 240sx,dope.
they also came with vlsd,awesome.
did they come with a better sport suspension?
I probly can think of more things other than the engine, but not at the moment :bash:

[psychedelicbeats]

sorry to bite the ass off this thread,

but i was wondering if people fully understand the differences of a JDM car compared to a real Japanese Car.

i say don't describle JDM cars as a "japanese car" bleh. JDM is its own breed whether we like it or not.... >.<

[mrmephistopheles]

there is a difference between not sugar coating something and having PMS................so save your arguments for people like supra owners who call our cars "inferior machines"

There's a difference between arguing about cars and aruing about FACTS. Arguing about cars is useless. My Civic can whoop your Talon. I can drift my Prowler better than your Mustang. blah blah blah.
Arguing about facts is worthwhile, as it prevents the spread of misinformation. Let's see.. anybody remember Altima cams being a drop-in +20hp mod? What about the 'every Canadian 240sx has LSD'? Misinformation like that was spread due to speculation and people guessing, and nobody bothering to check the facts.
Now, keep hating on Dousan_PG for trying to set you straight all you want. He doesn't care. His views do become a bit extreme when it comes to what money should be spent on, and he sees no attraction to making one's car a showpony. I don't blame him, as I don't either, but I accept it as something someone will do to their car. Keep in mind that while Dousan_PG has great information, sometimes he doesn't know everything. In those cases, he may make speculation, but he'll preface it with a statement saying that he doesn't know for sure.. he won't just guess at something and state it like it's fact.

Anyway, i'm locking down this thread. I wanted to do it when I posted the first time around in this thread, but the 'kindler, gentler Asshole' got the best of me and I decided to be a nice guy.

So much for that.