Car won't go in gear when car is on?

[SR20HAYES]

CAR: s14 sr20 notch back. car is under 300whp and has a ACT 6 puck clutch.


Ok so to make a long story short I was in an argument in a mall parking lot and in a rage I peeled off like a mad man. I parked else where, shut off the car, and chilled for 15 minutes. I hopped back in the whip started it up and went to put it in gear but it wouldnt. I tried reverse and I could only manage to force it in but the car stalled immeadiately as if I just pulled my foot off the clutch. It will go into all gears when the car is off though. Its night and I dont have a garage so I didnt really get to check it out, but it seemd like the master and slave were working fine. I'll check it tomorrow in the light, but this is my daily and i got work on monday=(

Any ideas on what it can be?



CAR: s14 sr20 notch back. car is under 300whp and has a ACT 6 puck clutch.

[Arireese]

CAR: s14 sr20 notch back. car is under 300whp and has a ACT 6 puck clutch.


Ok so to make a long story short I was in an argument in a mall parking lot and in a rage I peeled off like a mad man. I parked else where, shut off the car, and chilled for 15 minutes. I hopped back in the whip started it up and went to put it in gear but it wouldnt. I tried reverse and I could only manage to force it in but the car stalled immeadiately as if I just pulled my foot off the clutch. It will go into all gears when the car is off though. Its night and I dont have a garage so I didnt really get to check it out, but it seemd like the master and slave were working fine. I'll check it tomorrow in the light, but this is my daily and i got work on monday=(

Any ideas on what it can be?



CAR: s14 sr20 notch back. car is under 300whp and has a ACT 6 puck clutch.

try slave, clutch master cause their cheap if not you most likely fucked the springs on your clutch disk. ive seen it happen a bunch of times.

[SR20HAYES]

The master and slave are only 5 months old. I replaced them both cause I lost pressure in the pedal and wasnt sure witch it was so did them both. I have a feeling it would be the springs on the disck over those=( I figured my ACT could handle the abuse.

[Arireese]

The master and slave are only 5 months old. I replaced them both cause I lost pressure in the pedal and wasnt sure witch it was so did them both. I have a feeling it would be the springs on the disck over those=( I figured my ACT could handle the abuse.

how old is it? In my experience ive only ever seen ACT do that. and one spec. Usually their cool and will send you a replacement

[SR20HAYES]

Anyone else think it could be anything or agree with it being the springs on the disk???

[SR20HAYES]

its a year old with about 10-12k miles

[fliprayzin240sx]

Have you even crawled under the car yet to see if anythings going on? Fork pivot could have snapped off too...

[SR20HAYES]

i crawled under today fork pivot is working as well as master and slave...it just started raining tho so i had to pack it up and wait until another day....might ust have to take it to a shop and pay $$$$$$$ to have it fixed. i usually do all my own work but i dont have a garage or even a good driveway i can pull the car on so i usually work in the street but with the weather and my job i dont think i have the time or patience to do it. what a fucking day yesterday turned into.....thanks for the imput guys i appreciate it

[KravingAKouki]

I parked else where, shut off the car, and chilled for 15 minutes.

Where was else where? Was it at home? Or how did you get it home?

[ka24debt]

same shit happened to my friend doing the same exact thing. If all that stuff is replaced like you said.. Take your trans down and i guarentee you one of the springs on the clutch disk popped out and is lodged in the pressure plate. If the fork travels a good length and your slave feels no diff then before then its def the clutch disk springs came out

[94spitfire91]

Where was else where? Was it at home? Or how did you get it home?

The problem arose after he parked "elsewhere" where he parked has nothing to do with this probably

[Silvia352]

the trans. goes into gears when its off, so you know thats not an issue. and you say the slave, master and pivot work. odds are the clutch is in a bunch of pieces.

[KravingAKouki]

The problem arose after he parked "elsewhere" where he parked has nothing to do with this probably

haha i get that, but what i was getting at was if he were to tow it himself, if he saw a fork pivot after the car was moved. It happened to a close friend of mine, and we pushed the car into a lot, and as we were tracing steps we saw a fork pivot. I guess my wording was a lil off my mistake

[Touge180]

Pretty sure it might be something with the pressure plate.

[CantSTOP]

Anyone else think it could be anything or agree with it being the springs on the disk???

Sounds like the springs...happened to my dc5. I stopped driving the car asap, bought a new clutch kit and when I took off the tranny, it was indeed one of the clutch springs(broke in half and popped out). And like you said, probably won't or is gonna be hard to go in gears while the car is on, if the car is off it will go in to the gears. And if you put it in gear while car is off and then turn it on, the car will stall T__T

[SR20HAYES]

lol i parked in a different spot in the mall parking lot cuz i was meeting with people, but yea i had it towed home. i've never dropped a transmission, i know i could do it but if anyone knows a good write up on dropping the trans i'd appreciate it if you could post the link or if its from another site u can pm me the link..and again thanks for the help.

[RyanS13]

I've had this problem 2 times already. It was the clutch. The springs in the clutch broke out and wedged themselves in between the pressure plate and flywheel.

Dropping the trans is pretty easy. Its not really a huge job. If you have the right tools its not that hard. The hardest part is getting to the top bolts that go from the bell housing to the motor. That, and getting the trans back in. You gotta tilt the motor back pretty good and muscle it in.

It isn't that hard though.

[Dsic240sx]

just throwing this out there..try adjusting your clutch pedal? i know when i swapped in my new clutch it wouldn't go into gear. after adjusting the pedal it went in just fine.

[ericcastro]

Pretty sure it might be something with the pressure plate.

Thats exactly what it is.


wether its the clutch spring wedged, preventing the pressure plate from working right, or my pressure plate screws backed themselves out.
Same symptoms.

i did my transmission on the side of the street in front of my apartment in Hollywood. Just get 4 jack stands and hope no drunks hit it while your under there ;)

[CleanAndLegit]

Thats exactly what it is.........
i did my transmission on the side of the street in front of my apartment in Hollywood. Just get 4 jack stands and hope no drunks hit it while your under there ;)

this made me lol, and yeah its easy quick write up

1. jack car up on to stands
2. take driveshaft off from diff 4 bolts 14mm or 12mm if i remember
3. take off center bearing(dono if u have once piece ds) holder 2 bolts 14mm or 17mm
4.drain fluid from trans
5. remove shifter assembly
6. take off trans crossmember 4 bolts 14mm
7.un bolt trans make sure you disconnect battery bolts are 14mm or 17mm depends if oem or am
8. twist and drop you don't need a jack or anything i just hug it its not heavy
btw make sure you take off all the sensors

[97nismo]

17mm bolts....i thought were trans crossmember bolts....

[Jus Skott]

had the same issue with my bucket some time back, check the arm it was good, swapped out a new slave cylinder and bleed it, still was an issue, ended up dropping the trans and checking everything, ended up being that I pulled the dumb and forgot to torque down my flywheel to spec. Good luck, let us know what's up.

[projectblak]

^^^^ correct just did mine 17mm

[brizzle3000]

THIS HAPPENED TO ME.. it was my clutch clave cyl.... try to adjust the clutch pedal by taking out the pin and turning the fork to the... should be a short term fix

[ericcastro]

also, the starter needs to come off the trans before you drop it.

I used a jack under my transmission to make it easier to take off, and especially put back on.
Took a couple hours to pull it off, and a few to f]put it on, did it in two days.
If you got a friend, it can be done in a few to several hours.

[SR20HAYES]

Thats exactly what it is.

i did my transmission on the side of the street in front of my apartment in Hollywood. Just get 4 jack stands and hope no drunks hit it while your under there ;)

lol i will be doing mine in the street as well. but my street is very low-key not many people drive down my block. i was saying i was going to take it somewhere just because i was frustrated with all that happened, but i got a car to borrow and now i can order a clutch and do it over the weekend.


this made me lol, and yeah its easy quick write up

1. jack car up on to stands
2. take driveshaft off from diff 4 bolts 14mm or 12mm if i remember
3. take off center bearing(dono if u have once piece ds) holder 2 bolts 14mm or 17mm
4.drain fluid from trans
5. remove shifter assembly
6. take off trans crossmember 4 bolts 14mm
7.un bolt trans make sure you disconnect battery bolts are 14mm or 17mm depends if oem or am
8. twist and drop you don't need a jack or anything i just hug it its not heavy
btw make sure you take off all the sensors

lol i guess its as straight foward as that then lol i never actually done it so i figured there might be somthing more to worry about=p one question-someone told me i need to get my flywheel resurfaced. is this true, should i have it resurfaced? im a new at this i only had the car for just over a year with my swap. i owned the car four years stock and auto. so i learn as i come across problems. so bare with me guys lol.

nvm-i got my answer on needing to resurface the flywheel..

[SR20HAYES]

Thats exactly what it is.

in front of my apartment in Hollywood.

hollywood FL??? i live in east pines right on the hollywood/pines city line pretty much.

[97nismo]

not that easy man....
jacking it up off the ground is rough u have to get it over a foot off the ground to get the tranny outta there to work...
but yea...
disconnect the battery
take off starter...2 bolts 14mm
then unplug harness from tranny......10mm bolt and 3 plugs irrc
then secure something under tranny i found it easier to use a block of wood
it weighs about 85 lbs....
unbolt all of the tranny bolts....most are 14mm and a few 17mm iirc
DO NOT TAKE all out... break them loose first
4 tranny crossemember bolts 17mm
it should then slide out.....
then you will be exposed to the clutch.....

from there......you need to take off the pressure plate bolts and they should break loose
next the clutch should slide out or let it fall....
once its off you will see the flywheel
8 bolts 14mm.....get half drive and a breaker bar,
pray they do not snap.....the flywheel will turn so i used a screwdriver against the dow of the flywheel and broke them all looose first
also there is a pilot bushing...i dremeled mine out...... the tool at advanced is crap
if your lucky u can take a screwdriver and chip it out.

i would resurface the flywheel and also get a machineshop to press on your new tob
note: if you pay more than 25-30 dollars to do this they are ripping you off
whenever you put your new pilot bushing in keep it in the freezer overnight so it will slide in easier i used a deepwell 14mm socket to tap it in

BTW: it doesnt go all the way to the back it hits a lip leaving about 2mm behind the bushing

i also would buy new flywheel bolts.......I didnt but... and also locktite them on... torque to 87ft lbs
and pressure plate bolts 20 ft lbs
iirc

dont forget your alignment tool as well

good luck
btw: this is what my clutch looked like
http://i384.photobucket.com/albums/oo286/1997nismo/Photo0054V.jpg (http://zilvia.net/f/redirect-to/?redirect=http%3A%2F%2Fi384.photobucket.com%2Falbu ms%2Foo286%2F1997nismo%2FPhoto0054V.jpg)
ramps i made to get it off the ground
http://i384.photobucket.com/albums/oo286/1997nismo/Photo0028.jpg (http://zilvia.net/f/redirect-to/?redirect=http%3A%2F%2Fi384.photobucket.com%2Falbu ms%2Foo286%2F1997nismo%2FPhoto0028.jpg)

[Jus Skott]

hollywood FL??? i live in east pines right on the hollywood/pines city line pretty much.
Been sometime since i lived in FL and sounds familiar. If memory serves me correctly, that wasn't far from Largo, Clearwater or DuneDin right?

[97nismo]

also when you drop the tranny check to see if you have a broken front tranny cover cause that will make for a wild ride when the sleeve sticks on the tob.....ha

[SR20HAYES]

ok i will get the TOB pressed in and flywheel resurfaced. i should have plenty of help. for sure my brother and then i know my neighbor will want to help even tho he's a mustang guy he will want to come get his hands dirty lol. looks like i have my weekend booked. i will try and take pics as i go and a pic of how fucked my clutch is lol. should be done this weekend. ill post more on the weekend and let you guys know how it went so keep an eye out on this thread if your interested in the out come of my first clutch install.

[fliprayzin240sx]

hollywood FL??? i live in east pines right on the hollywood/pines city line pretty much.

Really, somebody says they're from Hollywood and you think of fucking FL? I swear, people from Florida...:duh:

http://losangeles.diarystar.com/images/hollywood-sign21.jpg

[Grocery Cart]

The master and slave are only 5 months old. I replaced them both cause I lost pressure in the pedal and wasnt sure witch it was so did them both. I have a feeling it would be the springs on the disck over those=( I figured my ACT could handle the abuse.

The thing about age is how it's used. Peeling out like a mad man, like you sad, could in turn be months of wear.
I had a brand new clutch, accidentally took off in 3rd gear (don't question it..) and by the time I got home, which was a 3 mile drive, my clutch was completely gone.

i will try and take pics as i go and a pic of how fucked my clutch is lol.
That little misshap caused my clutch to be worn to the metal. haha. It was pretty bad..

[SR20HAYES]

Really, somebody says they're from Hollywood and you think of fucking FL? I swear, people from Florida...:duh:

http://losangeles.diarystar.com/images/hollywood-sign21.jpg

i think of florida because that is where im from and happen to be very close to hollywood fl so excuse me for asking because i thought there was a chance of him being close to where i live even though i knew it was unlikely hollywood fl. get off your high horse buddy. im on here trying to get help and u just wanna surf the comments to make fun of a simple question. get a life dude really.

[nomoremk2]

Really, somebody says they're from Hollywood and you think of fucking FL? I swear, people from Florida...:duh:

http://losangeles.diarystar.com/images/hollywood-sign21.jpg

Because that's where he lives? Good job being a dick about something so stupid.

[SR20HAYES]

The thing about age is how it's used. Peeling out like a mad man, like you sad, could in turn be months of wear.
I had a brand new clutch, accidentally took off in 3rd gear (don't question it..) and by the time I got home, which was a 3 mile drive, my clutch was completely gone.


That little misshap caused my clutch to be worn to the metal. haha. It was pretty bad..

lol yea you are correct about that. it all comes down to wear and tear, but those componets seem to be working..they are pushing the fork coming out the trans.

[KiLLeR2001]

i also would buy new flywheel bolts.......I didnt but... and also locktite them on... torque to 87ft lbs
and pressure plate bolts 20 ft lbs
iirc

For the SR20DET flywheel bolts you'll want them around 95 to 110ft/lbs of torque with loctite. Most people do 100ft/lbs of torque. You may be okay with 87ft/lbs + loctite but I had my flywheel bolts come loose and its not fun!!!

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had the same issue with my bucket some time back, check the arm it was good, swapped out a new slave cylinder and bleed it, still was an issue, ended up dropping the trans and checking everything, ended up being that I pulled the dumb and forgot to torque down my flywheel to spec. Good luck, let us know what's up.


A few times I have seen FW bolts backing out and causing the same thing.

[SR20HAYES]

thanks for the heads up. i will make sure i get those fw bolts in there good.

funny thing is i made this account like 2 days be4 this problem occurred. this account has come in handy=) you all have been helpful.

[SR20HAYES]

I got the new clutch in. i ended up going with a exedy stage 1 cuz funds were low. unfortunetly i dont have many pics at all its hard to get pics when ur hands are dirty. the clutch disc was stuck to the pressure plate tho. everything turned out great and i want to thank everyone who helped out.