Largest slick to fit under S13 rear wings?

[Vetal]

What is the largest slick / rim that would go under the wing? I'd like to put 26x10" ET Drag, 8" or 10" rim. Or maybe even some 27-28 diameter slick.
So, what's the largest that would fit?
Please post pics if possible too :)

[Briou]

I have 275/60-15's on 8" wide wheels....not too sure what that converts to but they rub a decent amount

[slow92]

^^^^Have you pulled or rolled the stock fenders? Just curious because I was looking at going 275 50 15 on a set of 8" draglites.

[Vetal]

Rolled a bit. How exactly do you pull fenders?
here's some pic of my
http://www.prodrift.lv/wp-content/gallery/2011-dragrace-09-07-2011/dragrace_20110709-121.jpg

[mattsil80wis]

i run a 26in slick on stock mustang wheels with rolled rear fenders and they just fit

ill see if i can find a picture

[187motorsports]

26x10.5 on a 8 inch rim sould get you to hook good enough.

[orion::S14]

Rolled a bit. How exactly do you pull fenders?
here's some pic of my
http://www.prodrift.lv/wp-content/gallery/2011-dragrace-09-07-2011/dragrace_20110709-121.jpg

^^^ We'd consider those fenders as "pulled".

Rolled would be just the inner lip, rolled flat.

Anything beyond that, like yours = "pulled".

Just a note.

- Brian

[shalezzz]

^haha lol
msgleng

[Vetal]

OK, I see :) I wonder if they can be pulled even more...
Has anyone pu 26x10" slick, do they fit? I'd like to go a bit bigger than my current 26x8.5

[Vetal]

Anyone runs 26x10" slicks on S13?

[Vetal]

No one runs 26x10 full slick? :) or Hoosier equivalent?

BTW 275-60/15 equals roughly to 28x11.5 ET Street or 28x10.5 ET Drag.

P.S. Between MT and Hoosiers, is any one known for better traction at very bad tracks? Cause our only track is just hell.

[187motorsports]

i belive i answered your question a 26x10.5 on a 8 wheel

[Vetal]

i belive i answered your question a 26x10.5 on a 8 wheelI understand that 26x10.5 is Street, not Drag, as such it is like 26x9 ET Drag which is small. Am I right?

[Vetal]

Actually now I'm thinking more toward Hoosier slicks, they seem to require narrower rims than Mickey Thompsons, I could get away with 8" rims for 26x10-15 slicks or 27x11.5-15LT D.O.T. slicks (both have 10" wide tread). Also people rate them in general better than MTs

[landins13]

26x10.5x15 fit without issue at stock height.

[Vetal]

26x10.5x15 fit without issue at stock height.ET Drags ?

[[email protected]]

26/10 slick will fit and is what I will be running after I wear out my ET street which are 26/9
Rim is a 15/8

[Vetal]

26x10 slick requires minimum 9" wide rim according to MT. What's interesting, Hoosier 26x10 requires minimum 8" rim though...
I wonder what's the biggest backspacing that fits S13? As I understand, 8-9-10" rims with the same backspacing will have the same clearance between rim and struts, right? So, would 6.5" backspace fit? Seems most are running 15x8 5.5" rims

[[email protected]]

I have 5.5 backspace as well.
I personally would opt for the 8" over say a 10 as the added weight vs width isnt worth it

[Vetal]

I wouldn't want to run 10" slicks on rim 1" narrower than the minimum MT recommends... Or do you think that's OK? I don't think couple of pounds would matter

[[email protected]]

Yes it will be fine but you have room for the 10" rim
I personally know of cars running 26/10 on 8" wheels
As I will be doing the same on my next set of tires

[Vetal]

Not only it's not recommended by MT, it also reduces tire's contact patch... I wouldn't do that to save couple of lbs, however I can't find any rims between 8" and 10", and 10" seems a bit overkill

[[email protected]]

http://image.hotrod.com/f/9050416/113_0501_first15_z.jpg

15/8 with 26x10.5

It has been done a ton of times but look for yourself even hot rod mag did it.
113 0501 First15 Z Photo 14 (http://www.hotrod.com/projectbuild/113_0501_2005_ford_mustang_gt/photo_14.html)

[Vetal]

15/8 with 26x10.5

It has been done a ton of times but look for yourself even hot rod mag did it.
113 0501 First15 Z Photo 14 (http://www.hotrod.com/projectbuild/113_0501_2005_ford_mustang_gt/photo_14.html)Once again, these that you posted are ET Streets, which are 1.3" narrower than 26x10 ET Drag, and 8" rim for them is about perfect.
I was asking about 26x10 ET Drags.
So if you were talking about ET Streets, than yes, 8" is perfect, but that doesn't answer my question at all

edit: when you wrote "I personally know of cars running 26/10 on 8" wheels
As I will be doing the same on my next set of tires", did you actually mean 26x10 ET Drags? Which are similar in size to 26x11.5 Streets

[[email protected]]

You can do it for the ET drags or streets it has been done over and over again A 11.5 ET street is the same as a 10" drag.
Also you have to take into count is do you really need that much tire?
A 26/8.5 can handle a lot and will be nicer on your drivetrain. And depending on how hard you come out and power you won't gain anything from going from a 8.5 to a 10 other then more rotating mass

[Vetal]

You can do it for the ET drags or streets it has been done over and over again A 11.5 ET street is the same as a 10" drag.
Also you have to take into count is do you really need that much tire?
A 26/8.5 can handle a lot and will be nicer on your drivetrain. And depending on how hard you come out and power you won't gain anything from going from a 8.5 to a 10 other then more rotating massOK, I will search then how does it work when you put 10" tread slick on 8" rim! :)
And yes, I need the largest tire I can fit because track is terrible and I need all the help from the tires I can get. But I don't think 28" slick will fit nicely. 27" would be best, but Hoosier only makes it in DOT slicks, and I think pure drag will be better than drag/street

[[email protected]]

Bigger isn't better play with suspension
, camber, shift points etc
We have 28's on a 8 sec car, 26/8.5 on a 9 sec car. Just because you have more rubber doesn't mean more traction. You need the power to turn the wheels/tires but at the end it's your car do do what makes you happy

[Vetal]

I have yet to see people who switched to smaller tire.
Why (and how) play with suspension when I can just get bigger tire? Isn't the tire the single most cost-effective thing for ET?
Your cars can run 9 or 8 or 7 on your nice tracks with glue, that doesn't mean anything for our track with no grip. 8 second cars (on big tire) can only do 6.5s in 1/8 here (those runs when they are lucky). Play with suspension however you want, you won't get grip on small tire HERE.

[[email protected]]

Ok blog ahead put the biggest you can/want I'm just trying to help

[Vetal]

Ok blog ahead put the biggest you can/want I'm just trying to helpHey, I know, thanks for that! However I've made other thread where I asked for other suggestions, here I just want to learn which tire I can fit. My slicks are 5 years old so I have to change them anyway. Who in their own mind would not put better tires for the same price? :) So while getting new slicks I want to go a little bigger. No one from what I read didn't complaint about going bigger, whether for ET or consistency. I'm sure you can run 9's on 8.5", but you most probably would drop tenths on a properly sized tire

[[email protected]]

Remember 98-99% of those on this forum donT drag and have little to know hands on just what they have read. Also based on power level you need some give / spin to propel forward. Hope you have your diff/axles set up

[Vetal]

It seems 28" would be very hard to fit so I'll stay 26" or 27". Now I just have to understand which will work better on asphalt - full slick, or street ("cheater") slick

[90240sx07]

damn good info i learned alot that i didnt know bout slicks but whats a good setup for rear axles

[Vetal]

damn good info i learned alot that i didnt know bout slicks but whats a good setup for rear axlesNoooo please don't steer this thread even further away from the topic :)
P.S. Check this thread for info on axles:
http://zilvia.net/f/tech-talk/286602-drag-racing-suspension-2.html

[[email protected]]

For the record a 28/10.5 does fit but that is for cars with serious power

[mktachibana]

this thread makes me sick:barfkiss:

[Vetal]

this thread makes me sick:barfkiss:
Good input, thank you

Santos, Street or Drag?

[[email protected]]

ET drag but that was a s13 with about 800-1000hp

Maybe you should consider using VHT or use coke it works too to use to help it stick

[Vetal]

ET drag but that was a s13 with about 800-1000hp

Maybe you should consider using VHT or use coke it works too to use to help it stickWow, how could he fit it? 28-10.5" is huge, I could barely fit simialr tire to my TransAm. You have any pics, or links maybe?
800HP on glue might require smaller tire than 400HP on degraded asphalt :)
Will deffo consider VHT (but no coke on new tires) :)

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http://i22.photobucket.com/albums/b342/snoflake95/Snapbucket/B106C64C.jpg

http://i22.photobucket.com/albums/b342/snoflake95/Snapbucket/F8B0696D.jpg

http://i22.photobucket.com/albums/b342/snoflake95/Snapbucket/9A9C6E1F.jpg

[Vetal]

Wow, just wow :) Is this with stock rear? No modifications to the fenders (except rolling/pulling)?
That car obviously doesn't squat though

[[email protected]]

Rolled rear minor pull
Qa1 coil overs with gtr diff axles etc same as q45 set up

[Vetal]

Seems to have some space in the rear, but not in the front, do you have more pics?
Damn, tempting, but I'd be risking very much running into clearance issues with 28" slick I guess...

[[email protected]]

U do not need a 28" tire
You can say what you want about prep but that isn't going to help you
Run a 26/8.5 or 10.5 tire pressures between 8-12psi whichever works and play with launch rpm etc..

[[email protected]]

He makes 980whp
http://i22.photobucket.com/albums/b342/snoflake95/Snapbucket/83A8ABF9.jpg

[Vetal]

He would run high 10's here :) Did you see the video I posted of 1100HP drag-built Camaro doing about 6.5s in 1/8?
I still can't see how larger tire would NOT help traction :(
P.S. I thought it's illusion but he obviously has smth. done to the fender in front of the wheel

[[email protected]]

I looked at it n it appeared to be tape
If you wanna go 28 by all means go ahead but you w
Better stock up of transmissions differentials axles and clutches because they will be blown into chunks

[Vetal]

No grip = no broken transmissions :) so no worries here
Between ET Drags and Hoosier Quick Time Pro DOT, which would hook better, what do you think?
P.S. Did you have to change studs/lugnuts with your Welds?

[[email protected]]

No grip = no broken transmissions :) so no worries here
Between ET Drags and Hoosier Quick Time Pro DOT, which would hook better, what do you think?
P.S. Did you have to change studs/lugnuts with your Welds?

You would be surprised within without grip you can bust your axles due to wheel hop

No studs don't have to be changed until you step up to big boy size 1/2" studs

[Vetal]

Wheel hop on bias-ply slicks, is it possible? I mean of course everything in this world is possible, but practically speaking

[[email protected]]

Yes it can happen I've seen it many many times

[Vetal]

Santos, so you use Welds with stock studs? do they protrude past lug nut hat? S13 or S14?

[[email protected]]

They don't stick out passed the the wheel but the rule is that when running slicks open end lugs will be used to verify studs are in place then in time you will need longer ones so that the stud id protruding. You will be fine with welds or any other rim with your slicks.

[Vetal]

From what I searched, stock studs are 1.57" long, but the bolts that Welds require are about 2", so even if the touched the hub, they would still be almost 1/2" short to be even flat with studs
Or am I missing something?

[[email protected]]

From what I searched, stock studs are 1.57" long, but the bolts that Welds require are about 2", so even if the touched the hub, they would still be almost 1/2" short to be even flat with studs
Or am I missing something?

You get the right lug nuts not acorn style. I still have stock studs on mine I won't go 1/2" studs till I gon28" tire with 700whp

[Vetal]

Yes I was talking about shank style lug nuts. In fact, I don't see at all 12x1.25 open end shank lug nuts of 1.3x length. I saw them for other threads and length was about 2", so stock studs would be short.
Summit Racing SUM-7540119 - Summit Racing® Lug Nuts - Overview - SummitRacing.com (http://www.summitracing.com/parts/SUM-7540119/)

[[email protected]]

Ya basically you can use close shank and cut the ends off making it open

Open end is up to your tech to say if you need them when running slicks

[Vetal]

It seems so much easier to get some Drag DR44's and be done with it. No stud and lug nut change to make it legal, no worries about center caps not fitting. Also these Welds take so much more time to change than normal wheels