Drifting Tires

[The ROMAN]

Has anyone used drifting tires, like Azenis, and have any opinions on them? Are they any better than using worn crappy tires in the back or are they just a con?

[RBS14]

Has anyone used drifting tires, like Azenis, and have any opinions on them? Are they any better than using worn crappy tires in the back or are they just a con?

Haha "drifting" tires........ ur quite the comedian. There's no shuch thing as a "drifting" tire. well the retarded reps at Falken would have you believe otherwise but they're retarded. lol

Having just drifted a couple times on grippy tires in back, i don't have much experience comparing and contrasting but i will say that i feels COMPLETELY different drifting crappy versus good tires. Once crappy tires break lose, they're gone, no grip. But with grippy tires, the force needed to break them is greater but the control you have over the car once a drift is initiated is FAR greater. I've only done like 3 drifts on my new grippier tires but i love the way the car feels WAY more than i ever did on shit tires on my steelies.

GO grippy all the way around!!!!! It rocks, i love it!

[Dousan_PG]

azenis sports? or ST115s
the sport (autocrosser favorite) isnt good on the back. they grip waaaaay too much.
use a mid to higher grip, like AVS Sport (depend on size and your budget), or ES100 and FM901...lower and mid power cars, nothing too crazy

higher power might want to run st115s, avs sports, various bridgestones adn good years

Beginner might want crap tire, but the faster you drift you want a grippier tire.

[Yoshi]

I drifted on my falken azenis when they were new, just to see the difference, as well as when they were worn to nothing. I actually felt more comfortable with them worn to crap. There's 2 factors that might affect that tho. 1, I'm way better now, than when the tires were new; and 2, a lack of tread means the tires try to grip LESS (or at least they are less capable than they were), with this in mind, linking drifts felt more fluid to me, less twitchy or erratic as the tires faught to try and keep traction when they were newer.

As far as a "grip tire", yeah, that's pretty amusing :D
go with whatever is easiest on your wallet, that's the best drift tire.

[JasonNagra]

I'm running ST115 in 215/45/17 all around on my stock KA. I like it because if I really want the car to get loose I can initiate it, even with low power. Also if I want to maintain grip, the tires have enough grip so i don thave to worry about them breaking away like generic crap tires I used to run if I push them hard. Only problem is the ST115 wear out very fast despite the 360 tread rating.

[The ROMAN]

Yeh I kinda figured that was the case. Just reading this magizine and it's got this whole section on "drifting tires" and how they are sooooo important :rolleyes:

[Dousan_PG]

tires are important. its probably THE most important for drifting (after driver skill)

what magazine were you reading??

[The ROMAN]

tires are important. its probably THE most important for drifting (after driver skill)

what magazine were you reading??

I think a Limited Slip (or lack of) will make or break a drifting car. I been drifting open diff for like 3 months now and it's a huge disadvantage (compared to drifting my old firebird)
Anyway I was reading Grassroots Motorsports - spent 30 min in the store reading and didn't buy it. :D

[wanganwonder]

are yokohama avs100's considered high grip or med. grip? (iow, suitable for stock kae)

[KiDyNomiTe]

ES100s seem to be one of the favs I have seen.

Only advantage of crap tires is if you are at an open run event and you are gonna be getting a lot of runs (to the point where you are blowing tires). Cheap to find and cheap to replace.

But using nice tires will help a lot in the control department.

[citizen]

Drift Tires: Tires that are made with a wonderful substance known as rubber. Any RUBBER tire is a drift tire, hell any thing that is somewhat circular and can be affixed to your wheels would work. The first step to acquiring cheap drift tires; taking a trip to your local junkyard, clean them out of any tires that have RUBBER left, or any that don't, you drift easier on the belts. Step two, mount on wheels. You don't need to pay anyone for this step, or buy an expensive tire mounting machine. Just get a few crowbars, a hammer, some lube (soapy water works fine), some lighter fluid (optional), a lighter (optional), or an air compressor and a few friends (unless you are built like a russian bear on steroids). Take your old tires off the wheels. *Note: Letting the air out before attempting this step facilitates removal*. Stick a crowbar between the sidewall and the lip of the wheel, pull it over, put in another crowbar, rinse and repeat until one side is over, then stick a crowbar down through the inside of the tire and pull the bottom sidewall over. If you're having trouble get another person and tell him to do it. Then! Take your new (old, crappy worn tires) and lube the beads up! I know you have much experiance with lubing stiff flexable rubber objects so i won't go into detail about that. Now take the tire and lay it down on the wheel parallel to its long axis. I know it may be temping but mounting the tires on tranversely won't help you get sideways! Anyways, take a crowbar slip itinside the tires and use the wheels lip as a fulcrum to pull the bottom bead of the tire of it. Repeat for the top. Step three is seating the bead onto the wheel, i refer to this step as tire make big boom. Spray some lighter fluid or something flammable into the inside of the tire, light a match and throw it in (try not to get an fingers or other appendages stuck in or around the tire while you do this, you may need them later in your life)! TIRE MAKE BIG BOOM! Check to see that both sides are seated. Or if you are a lazy bastard you can get a decent flow air compressor and just blow some air into it. This process will probably take you a good while, by the end you will look and smell worse than a Public Transportation Solutions Engineer, i.e. a fat hairy bus driver, you will be getting acquainted with them after the ordeal anyways. After you get a pair or more of DRIFT tires mounted you can go have some fun. Go to your favorite spot filled with innocent school children and expensive cars parked around and feebly trying to yank the e-brake while yelling "[email protected][email protected]@@@!" (not necessarily directed at anyone in this thread, but most likely a substantial proportion of those reading it). After a few minutes your new, i mean old, tires will blow up and your car will commence making love with an odd curb or to. Final Step: limp your car to a parking place, then find your nearest bus stop and say hello to the Public Transportion Solutions Engineer. drift tires are for suckers~~

[sLiDewAys]

DRIFT TRIRES; haha MANNN, it's all about your budget! i find KHUMO ECSTA KH11's in 205/55/15's are great with my SUCKIE offsetted SE rims! haha, but yeah, go with what dits your budget. just knoe that a good drift car grips as well as it drifts. well thats the way i look at it anyway!

[neevosh]

I'm pretty happy with the Azenis ST-115's so far. They felt very predictable and easy to control with the throttle. I've also used the AVSi's and Nitto 450's. The Nitto's lasted pretty long but started to fall apart towards the end of their life. Big chunks missing down to the cords.

[old_s13]

i want a drift tire....

....so i can drift. normal tires are just so... normal.

[Advan]

Has anyone tried out the Advan Neova(sp) tires? I have this 13+min drift video, with the about 5 or 8 drift kings(imo), drifting around a track, all using Advan Neova tires. Just wondering.

[Dousan_PG]

everyone i know with neova (the new one) LOVED them.

i tried some (new one AD07) on the front...grip was fantastic in a little moutain fun

i would love to buy some mroe but one tire is more then my wheel is worth hahaha

[sykikchimp]

Are the Neova's even sold in america?

[Dousan_PG]

yes and no
yes, but not 'legally'...they arent DOT yet, but you can get them going thru the right shops

legally,
yes they will be soon though, they are coming stock (from factory) on the ELISE when it is release so 2 sizes will be ok (one being 225/45/17 i think)? i forget the other off hand.