Shops what do sr20det swap in Mid-west??

[enkeirp02]

Sorry if this post seems pretty stupid, but im pretty new to nissans. I just got a 1993 Nissan 240sx Hatch and the first thing i want to do is swap out the motor for a sr20! Currently i am looking for shops in the Chicago area or surrounding area that go are experienced in doin this swap. I pretty much want to go to one shop that will obtaing the motor and do the swap for me since i dont have the resources to buy my own clip and truck it over to a shop :( ... thanks in advance for all your help...

[bcuz]

first of all, you dont have to truck it over to the shop, you can talk with the people at the shop and get thier approval, then have the clip shipped directly to them.

and as far as shops go in the chicago area, call speedquest (847)223-9100

they are reputable, and even though they are not a nissan specific shop, I have seen them do a good number of sr20 swaps. but dont listen to me, call them up, and go for a visit.. see what you think of htem for yourself, and ask to see pictures or even actual past cars they have worked on. WHATEVER YOU DO, DO NOT GO TO DRIVERS IMAGE.

[enkeirp02]

yeh i heard of speedquest.. i used to be a big honda person.. are there any other shops?

[SR20DETpwr]

If you are willing to bring the car to Indianapolis. I know Indy Import Performance has done the SR swap at least once (turned out really good). Their website - www.indyimportperformance.com (http://www.indyimportperformance.com) - but I would look into speedquest if their local and have done quite a few sr swaps. Good Luck

[enkeirp02]

yeh i heard there were some good shops in indian that do the swap.. I was at last year's HIN here in chicago and i was talking to this guy and he had his swap done by SANTECA in indiana?? any of you heard of them?

[LigouriRd]

Ive spoke with Santeca about doing an SR swap and they really don't seem to knowledgeable. I would recommend Garage Kwai (http://www.garagekwai.us/) . Don't let the Honda/Acura swap headquarters fool ya. I have been in there a number of times almost always they have a 240 in progress. They also have some upgrade package deals. 5k and they will swap (they can provide the engine, in this case a red top S-13) plus add Blitz FMIC, BOV, downpipe, boost control and usually end up with ~250whp on the factory turbo. Ask for Benson, he's the most knowledgeable.

Ps: I agree, Drivers Image:rl:

[DuffMan]

jdmspec performance can both get the clip and do swaps. They just opened and I think they have only done one swap, but they're pretty knowledgeable. I don't know if the other shops get clips directly, which means if the swap goes bad, they can blame the supplier of the engine. Something to think about.

[KiDyNomiTe]

Originally posted by DuffMan
jdmspec performance can both get the clip and do swaps. They just opened and I think they have only done one swap, but they're pretty knowledgeable. I don't know if the other shops get clips directly, which means if the swap goes bad, they can blame the supplier of the engine. Something to think about.

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JDM Spec Perf or Whip Factory?

JDM Spec is in Cali now remember

Try umm A-Spec Tuning

[Modern Angel]

What about Works Yamaguchi in Indy?

[bcuz]

once again, just to make sure that you heard me loud and clear the first time... drivers image =:bs:

;)

[lbcklik1486]

There are plenty of shops that are reputable...

AMS (http://www.automotosports.com/)

^^^^best bet, imo, they're dynotuner is awesome from what i've heard^^^^

CJ Motorsports (http://www.cj-motorsports.com/)

Sound Performance (http://www.sound-performance.com/)

^^^^most expensive^^^^

just my opinions and hearsay....

[SR20DETpwr]

Works Yamaguchi is run by the same guys that owned Santeca Performance......they just changed the name of the company because they are not a division of Santeca Lmtd. in Japan. I wouldn't go with Santeca/Works Yamaguchi in Indy either because I've heard some very sketchy things about them from people. I heard the silvia converted 240sx they have isn't running due to the fact that they messed around with the fuel settings on the computer and threw a rod.........it was suppose to appear in grip video vol. 2 and go to some import shows, but the thrown rod kinda kicked those plans out of the door. If you go with a shop in Indy go with IIP (Indy Import Performance) because I know they have done a successful sr swap. They can also order the font clip/engine set for you so you don't have to ship it w/ your car to their shop. If you have any questions for Indy Import Performance you can email Justin through their web page at: http://www.indyimport.com/ - there ya go.

[Ryan of Velocity]

I own Works Yamaguchi and we have nothing to do with Santeca. I tried to help them out when they were attempting to get a tuning shop going but they had the wrong kind of people. After they went back to just selling HID my shop took their lift and their lift and S13 off their hands which we had to work our ass off to get straightened out. Basically Santeca's tech Brian Brewer (who drove numerous shops in the hole) wired it horribly and almost destroyed the motor (he was also trying to run an red top SR off 650cc injectors, stock turbine, and a black top Mine's VX-ROM.) His antics were also the reason Mike cut it from Grip #2.

When we got the car we pulled the motor and it was in nasty shape. We had to send the crank out to be resurfaced and threw in PE N1 black bearings (rod/mains) among other internal upgrades. Threw on a PE manifold, GT BB turbine, E-manage etc.. We recently had to pull the turbine off because of a seal problem and we did some valvetrain work, cam upgrades, etc. It's running a stock turbine till the big boy gets back. It's going to be making the rounds to compete at a bunch of the up-coming drift comps along with my Z (If I ever get a chance to finish it.) The S13 will be making the show rounds too, HIN, IREV, etc.. blah blah. And you can be sure it will be in an up-coming Grip. Mike is a personal friend of mine and a fellow Velocity member:p

I don't know who you are SR20DETpwr, but before start spreading negative information don't you think you should actually meet the people you are talking down about so you can form your own opinion instead of just adopting someone else's? We're open from 11am-7pm m-s. Feel free to stop by, hang out, chit chat, and what not. We're nice guys, why not give us a chance? :hug:

[Hondamatic]

I have been to the Works Yamaguchi shop several times and they are very friendly, helpful guys. They are the most knowledgable engine swap shop in the area and are always willing to help out with anything 240sx related, in my case vlsd and z32 questions.

[SR20DETpwr]

Ryan, I'm sure you are a pretty nice guy, but don't go rubbing knowledgaeble people's names into the ground. Brian Brewer is a nice guy and is helping me install things on my car that I never expected him to (wiring up my car, boost controller, turbo timer, elec. fans, helping me cut my bumper and bumper cover to fit my fmic - and doing it all for 200 freakin bucks!). How can you say his wiring is sloppy - he is wiring my car up at the moment when he has the time between his family and jobs, and it is the cleanest wiring job i've ever seen (and i've seen some wiring jobs done by "professional" car shops). I talk to the guy all of the time and he is very knowledgable about 240's and the sr20det swap - coming from a guy who has done a TON of research on both. He has an electrical engineering degree and works on lexus, bmw, audi, saab, jaguar, mercedes, and rarely has worked on countache's at one of his jobs - with that said, i highly doubt this man has such little knowledge on the electrical systems of cars that he can't wire an SR20DET swap up! When Santeca had their website up - before you guys changed the name to Works Yamaguchi - I took the time to read their SR20DET swap article (back when I was researching and looking for a shop to do my wiring), and it said Brian wired the car up overnight and it "started w/out any hithces". To top all of that off you guys even drove the freakin car downtown to take some shots of it (again - posted on Santeca's site), so if the car was driveable after this total "hack-job" wiring w/ a wrong ecu (blacktop mine's VX-ROM according to you) I don't see how you guys even got the car started to take it downtown to a photoshoot. By the way - he has wired a couple other SR20DET swaps here in Indy (in one day) on the side and both of those run. The only reason my swap isn't done is because I'm waiting for a couple more parts to come in before we finish it (oil catch tank, bov, and battery relocation kit).

[SittinOnDubsWGW]

Well, from my experiences with Works Yamaguchi, I can only say good things about them. I went there a couple weeks ago, and they all seemed to be great guys, and have a nice shop.

As a matter of fact I am going to be there in about 3 hours for them to install my exhuast, and get some pricing on some other things. :cool:

[SR20DETpwr]

SittinOnDubsWGW just curious, but what exhaust did you buy for your car. Do you have an SR20DET - maybe I'll see you cruising downtown sometime.

[SR20DETpwr]

Met the guys at Works today - they are really cool. I think we can start over Ryan - :ughug:

P.S. - I WAS GOING TO DELETE POST FIFTEEN, BUT FOR SOME REASON THE EDIT BUTTON ISN'T AVAILABLE FOR IT - SO LET'S JUST ACT LIKE WE NEVER READ THAT POST. SHOULDN'T BE FIGHTING OTHER PEOPLE'S FIGHTS.

[Var]

i dont live in the midwest, but i'd have to say you'd have to be really incompetant to mess up an sr swap. ppl do it themselves with no problems with no prior experience in their own garages. If an actual shop messes one up, i wouldnt never go to them.

[Ryan of Velocity]

Met the guys at Works today - they are really cool. I think we can start over Ryan - :ughug:

P.S. - I WAS GOING TO DELETE POST FIFTEEN, BUT FOR SOME REASON THE EDIT BUTTON ISN'T AVAILABLE FOR IT - SO LET'S JUST ACT LIKE WE NEVER READ THAT POST. SHOULDN'T BE FIGHTING OTHER PEOPLE'S FIGHTS.


Thanks dude. But I'm going to say a few things about Mr. B because I have a right to after all the shit I had to deal with.

1. He has no degrees. No electrical engineering or otherwise. He had the nerve to lie to my own mother and say he had a Masters in Automotive Engineering.

2. He jacked up Jeff Deetz's S13 Silvia, which limped in and out of SEMA, to the photoshoots, etc.. I btw built and webmastered Santeca's website. Everything on Jeff's S13 was trashed after Mr. B was done with it. I personally sat and watched him try to tune his AFC by sitting and revving the S13 to redline repeatedly for an HOUR straight blowing both the turbo and the motor. We got the car we had to start from scratch. Motor rebuild, complete re-wiring. Mr. B had everything hardwired from the ignition to the fuel and as basic as the S13--->S13 wiring is there were still mistakes.

3. Every motor swap he did at Santeca does not run.
- S14 w/black top swap, dead (we are currently fixing it FREE OF CHARGE)
- S13 w/ red top swap, dead which Mr. B "streetraced" right after finishing
- S14 w/ RB25DET, dead, customer shipped car from WA st., Mr. B had for at least six months and couldn't get it to run. Avoided customers phone calls and lied to him about the status of the car. Customer FLEW from Washington to see his car and meet with Mr. B. Mr. B disappeared that day and the president of Santeca had to meet with the customer and explain why the person who was "tuning" his car was gone after he FLEW from Washington to meet with him. When the guy finally got his car back he brought it to a tuning shop in Washington that has performed numerous RB swaps and they couldn't believe the work and had to start from scratch.

4. Mr. B is not the "Super Tuner" he claims to be. He claimed to have worked for Nismo while in Japan when in actuality he was delivering pizzas and DJ'ing. And I would imagine that if someone had the technical expertise to work for Nismo they probably wouldn't be fired from Saab for incompetence.

5. He is a pathological liar. He claimed to have been a Sniper in the Marine Corps. (he must have been real busy sniping and tuning Skylines at Nismo). He claims to be fluent in French and Russian but does not. He does in fact speak fluent Japanese. He told an "accessory shop" in Indy that he worked for for a short time that he owned a Hakosuka (old school GTR) which he doesn't. He has an Infinity G20 which he claimed to have a full JDM Group 2 Tomei built SR20DE. Lie. He lies about stupid shit that is completely inconsequential which leads us to belive he has "meantal issues".

6. Brian is a competent "mechanic" and I am sure he is capable of "wiring" a red-top SR in an S13 by now. A 16 year old with no experience would be capable of it so there should be no reason he can not after all the "practice" he has had. Just be wary and cautious.

7. Works Yamaguchi is MY COMPANY and is not affiliated with Santeca in any way. We do not even deal their HID. In fact Santeca is now closed as the US government banned them from selling HID. The three owners of Works Yamaguchi are on our business license and none of them work for Santeca. One owner (Josh Richardson) was a sales rep for Santeca and I did their website and some graphic design work for them. When Works opened Josh was no longer working for Santeca and I was no longer doing any sort of work for them. If the concept of "Works Yamaguchi" being a separate entity and company not affiliated with Santeca is somehow unbelieveable feel free to call Mr. Paul Makio, the president of Santeca and ask him if we are associated with Santeca in any way. It's odd, I can forsee him responding with a resounding NO. Must be psychic I guess.

Sorry if I come off sounding like a dick but in my entire life I have never had to deal with anyone like Mr. B and I feel I and anyone that has ever had to deal with him has every right to vent. If he is doing good "wiring" work no, more power to him and I'm happy people are satisfied with his work because it's about friggin' time somebody was. But I know him and do not trust him and never will and there are alot of people out there who feel the same way. People who felt he was a close friend and then were betrayed.

I'm sure Mr. B will deny everything I've said here and drop a load of Bull-butter, excuses and evasions and that's fine. I am more than willing to sit down with Mr. B and get everything out on the table for the world to see but I'm willing to bet he isn't. And if somehow is willing to man-up to the situation he knows where to find us.

Again sorry for ranting and SR20pwr, you seem like a cool, knowledgeable guy and I'm looking forward to helping you out with anything you need!

- Ryan

[SR20DETpwr]

No problem Ryan - looking forward to doing buisiness w/ you. I've put all of this behind me. When he is done wiring the car up I'll bring it by your shop and see what you think of the job.

[SR20DETpwr]

Just wanted to say also that the Santeca site you built was def. one of my favorite sites to visit just because of the background music - good job.

[SittinOnDubsWGW]

SittinOnDubsWGW just curious, but what exhaust did you buy for your car. Do you have an SR20DET - maybe I'll see you cruising downtown sometime.

URAS type SS catback, no SR20 (still debating between KAT and SR).

If I do the swap, it WILL be done by Works Yamaguchi. Seem to be great guys, and have been nothing but nice to me, with great service. It is a very nice shop, and they have SEVERAL SR's in stock. I had them install my exhaust because I felt like checking the place out, and getting to know the guys there a little better, and I am happy that I did.

I can honestly say that I think I will be doing a lot of business with these guys, I found a shop that I find respectable, and very competent, tha I like moreso than any other shop that I have been to in Indy so far.
They told me about how they hang out a lot of the nights in the summer, I plan on swinging by there pretty often also. should be good times.

So overall I have to give them a big thumbsup. :bigok:

[bcuz]

do you guys at works have a website or something? what is your pricing like? if you dont have a website, if you could send me quotes on a s13 red top and blacktop installation (including cost of motor) and s14 black top (including cost of motor) I dont know if I wanna go so far for a swap, but we'll see..

[SR20DETpwr]

do you guys at works have a website or something? what is your pricing like? if you dont have a website, if you could send me quotes on a s13 red top and blacktop installation (including cost of motor) and s14 black top (including cost of motor) I dont know if I wanna go so far for a swap, but we'll see..

They're website is www.worksyamaguchi.com, but it is under construction at the moment.

[bcuz]

Ok, I hope thier hours consist of 60minutes, not 6 days, because I want to chekc out thier site and it says 24hour down time, I just hope it really is 24 hours :)