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Kk_kalina
02-16-2012, 06:53 AM
ok guys story here is i have a ka24de 91 hatch 240 anyways i wasnt getting spark to cyl. 3 so i put a new cap on well i broke the bolt off of the old cap in the dizzy so i pulled the dizzy out to drill it out anyways set the motor to TDC set the dizzy rotor to cyl 1 the car starts fine the car idles fine but if i give it gas the motor bogs down and almost dies and if i hold the gas it dies can anyone out there help me or give me some advice please and thank u
Tokona-x
02-16-2012, 09:50 AM
Did you just put the distributor back in? Or did you put it back in and adjust your timing with a timing gun?
Kk_kalina
02-16-2012, 10:58 AM
dont have a timing gun but i kno the position the dizzy was in
jesse_s13
02-16-2012, 11:24 AM
dont have a timing gun but i kno the position the dizzy was in
Get a timing gun!
Kk_kalina
02-16-2012, 05:53 PM
ok any alternative answers
Frank_Jaeger
02-16-2012, 09:24 PM
ok any alternative answers
Here're some:
Rent a timing gun.
Borrow a timing gun.
Steal a timing gun.
Make a timing gun.
Buy a timing gun.
Etc.
Get your base timing right, and if you still have problems check back and we'l go from there. Timing guns are cheap. Even if this isn't THE problem (which it likely is, you might be off a tooth) it's still A problem.
Also what bolt are you talking about? I don't remember any bolts on my cap. Clips maybe, which I've broken.
Kk_kalina
02-17-2012, 05:16 AM
Here're some:
Rent a timing gun.
Borrow a timing gun.
Steal a timing gun.
Make a timing gun.
Buy a timing gun.
Etc.
Get your base timing right, and if you still have problems check back and we'l go from there. Timing guns are cheap. Even if this isn't THE problem (which it likely is, you might be off a tooth) it's still A problem.
Also what bolt are you talking about? I don't remember any bolts on my cap. Clips maybe, which I've broken.
*sighs* see I was trying to avoid the whole timing gun rental thing but apparently Its unavoidable lol cause In this "great" state of tx everything is atleast an hour away which sucks especially when my all famed Ecoboost f150 which supposably gets 22mpg (even 15 would be nice since i had mt tires and rims) gets 13mpg lol oh and back to the subject lol I never had a car with a dizzy before so the whole tooth alignment and timing thing is new to me my father in law will be here saturday to help although his knowledge of imports is limited I assume dizzy and timing is pretty much universal and as far as the bolts u have 2 that hold the cap on the dizzy (no clips they were 10mm screws) and 1 broke
rockchucker
02-17-2012, 10:07 AM
You MUST have a Timing Gun. Setting Timing by ear is a thing of the past. Especially with todays ECU's.
Frank_Jaeger
02-17-2012, 12:32 PM
*sighs* see I was trying to avoid the whole timing gun rental thing but apparently Its unavoidable lol cause In this "great" state of tx everything is atleast an hour away which sucks especially when my all famed Ecoboost f150 which supposably gets 22mpg (even 15 would be nice since i had mt tires and rims) gets 13mpg lol oh and back to the subject lol I never had a car with a dizzy before so the whole tooth alignment and timing thing is new to me my father in law will be here saturday to help although his knowledge of imports is limited I assume dizzy and timing is pretty much universal and as far as the bolts u have 2 that hold the cap on the dizzy (no clips they were 10mm screws) and 1 broke
Okay. I thought the distributor's cap's cap was the distributor's cap. I could never figure out why people were so worried about them lol.
Kk_kalina
02-19-2012, 07:35 PM
so i got a timing light today it is a equus digital timing light i hooked it up the light flashed for all of about 2 seconds then it just stayed on solidly idk why im thinking the brand new gun is faulty so unless anyone knows for sure what the problem is looks like i will be returning it to try and get another
Frank_Jaeger
02-19-2012, 07:44 PM
Try putting the pickup on a different spark plug wire.
Kk_kalina
02-19-2012, 07:46 PM
tried every single one it wouldnt flash on any of them
Kk_kalina
02-20-2012, 06:57 PM
ok heres my update got a new timing gun thats just awsome it works set my timing great car runs starts and no bogging when reved so i drive it down the road going great at first then boom i feel and hear it i lose my power to a cylinder again i get home and its cylinder 3 im getting fuel im getting spark my wires are good new dizzy cap rotor looks good coil is good im just simply not getting ignition or something to cyl 3 the spark plugs are good i tried 2 differnt sets i am running out of ideas and options here guys
s13panic
02-20-2012, 08:00 PM
Possibly the distributor itself. The internal cam angle sensor could be bad.
Kk_kalina
02-20-2012, 08:09 PM
i didnt think the s13 ka24de had a cas and if the distributor was bad wouldnt it be the same problem in one specific cylinder over again (my guess is it is the distributor but i dont know much about them so if u could explain how it would cause fault in just one cylinder for my own informative purposes i would appreciate it)
s13panic
02-20-2012, 08:16 PM
The s13 distributor has the cas built in to the distributor itself. It sends a pulse with each rotation. If its bad it could send an intermittent pulse making your miss by not firing on time. There could still be spark at each cylinder but maybe not on time. Not saying go buy an expensive distributor just to try, but if you can get one cheap or swap a buddies it might be worth a shot.
s13panic
02-20-2012, 08:21 PM
If u pull the distributor cap off, rotor, and the distributor plate behind that you will see the cas. 34275
Kk_kalina
02-20-2012, 08:41 PM
well not that u mentioned that at idle i do have a whole buntch of "missing" so that seems that a good idea of whats wrong
s13panic
02-20-2012, 08:57 PM
Yea theres a good chance that could be it. Not positive but seems logical. Hope it works out.
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