S15 coming soon, You think the SR can be Legalizled to be Swaped In?

[cali240sxdrifter]

hey everyone, well with that one new Car Importing Company that will have legal S15's and Skyline's, along with Motorex i believe, do you think there might be a chance that the SR could be legal to have in our cars? Like have our cars go to Motorex or another company to have the parts it needs to be smog legal.

I'd think its much cheaper to get the SR legal, than to legalize a S15. Atleast with the SR you can get more people to come do the swap, granted if they don't cost you an arm and leg to do it.

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First who are you and how did you get in to LAND HO ?

Hmmm I think that it would be a waste of time to legalize a SR. There is a lot of crap you have to do to make it smog legal for california thats why its expensive.

Its more profitable to legalize a car than just a motor. But if you can get it done then go for it.

[thx247]

I think you would have to go and certify the older motor with the same process as the S15 SR. So its possible that the s15 being legal, the older SR's would not be.

[No Motiv]

hey everyone, well with that one new Car Importing Company that will have legal S15's and Skyline's,
:bs: . since when are s15's legal...they are on the list of ILLEGAL, well you can import one legally, but it cant be driven legally......haahaha claifornia is kinda ironic......all the big japanese companies are stationed there...and the majority of their parts arent even legal becasue cali is soo dirty.....bahahah......ah it feels so good to breathe here.

another law is if your gonna swap and engine in then the engine that is being swapped in must be newer or the same as the car, so the S15 motor would work in that respect

[sxse240]

What other place is importing and legalizing S15s and Skylines? Post a link.

[nightwalker]

where where?


...side note, I'm a cali 240sx drifter! not you!

[nokeone]

it's just not worth the legalization process for the engine alone...not to mention the laws in effect which would pretty much prevent anything like that from happening...

i guess i just don't see the point either...drive safe, responsible, stay away from illegal street activities and i don't really see what you have to worry about with an SR in your car..cops wont ask you to pop your hood without reason..they can also be smogged so what's the big deal?

[cali240sxdrifter]

No Motiv - well legal in a sense on how the skylines are legal. Where you can drive then around with no problems, just being hassle around alot.


sxse240 - that other place that is importing S15's is JDM Evolution or some crap like that. They sent me an email and have drop their price by quite a bit. 30grand being for the Base Model (Spec-S) and Spec-R for about 41grand. I wouldn't buy one, with 30grand, I can have a feelt of 240sx in my garge rather than just having one. But they still look very sexy.

nightwalker - See above post. And ohhh, ok, i guess your cali 240sx drifter :confused:

nokeone - I could care much less about cops. Its never about running scared that if you get stop by a cop then your screwed. If I get caught then its my fault, I can't stop and cry, I had a illegal engine and I took the risk. If i get the SR it would be like 90% of the time am driving my car would be to go to school and back. So the risk of being caught would go down, but nonetheless the risk will still be there. Oh, and I PM you about the smog thing.

[Anubis]

spicy ramen noodles are the best!

[SimpleS14]

That's way too much for a S15.


Random question: Has anyone attempted a LHD conversion on a S15? I know someone in the United Arab Estates (or something like that) has done the conversion using an Alitma (1 gen) dashboard.

[No Motiv]

95koukis14: i have herd of something like that being done....kinda cool idea.....

I remember seeing a left hand drive R34 Skyline GTr in dupont registry (classifieds for lambos, Ferrari....) once, and it was made special by Nissan, they made 10 of them supposedly, it was for sale for like 600,000+ G's....ouch

[ruf]

No. Same way that certain Skylines are legal in the US, but the RB26DETT is not legal for street use in most states.

[Pepperoni]

Originally posted by No Motiv
95koukis14: i have herd of something like that being done....kinda cool idea.....

I remember seeing a left hand drive R34 Skyline GTr in dupont registry (classifieds for lambos, Ferrari....) once, and it was made special by Nissan, they made 10 of them supposedly, it was for sale for like 600,000+ G's....ouch


$600,000+??? holy...

[NZO]

No, just no.

[SimpleS14]

Originally posted by No Motiv
I remember seeing a left hand drive R34 Skyline GTr in dupont registry (classifieds for lambos, Ferrari....) once, and it was made special by Nissan, they made 10 of them supposedly, it was for sale for like 600,000+ G's....ouch

ok? that doesn't make any sense. A Porsche Carrera GT cost less than that......so does an original '67 Shelby Cobra :p

[KoukiS14]

It's simple.
There will be NO S15 in the U.S. that can be legally driven on the streets. . it's been stated in this thread, but to emphasis the point. . NO. . the Skyline and S15 are two different cases. .

btw who says the SR is illegal?
It's legal where I live.

[andrave]

who says the sr is illegal??? hahaha thats a good one man. um, the federal government, last time I checked.

there is a company in the US that does LHD skyline conversions with oem nissan parts. There are plenty of LHD skylines that were made by conversion companies over the years for various markets. Some are good, some are shoddy, some are expensive, some aren't.

Technically if you get the engine out of a car that is legal to drive in the US its a legal engine... for instance, some dude totalled his motorex R33 GTR in the rain a few years back and it went on ebay for a good bit, and that engine, since it passed emissions, would technically be legal for use in a car the same year or older, just like any other US spec engine...

[KoukiS14]

who says the sr is illegal??? hahaha thats a good one man. um, the federal government, last time I checked.

there is a company in the US that does LHD skyline conversions with oem nissan parts. There are plenty of LHD skylines that were made by conversion companies over the years for various markets. Some are good, some are shoddy, some are expensive, some aren't.

Technically if you get the engine out of a car that is legal to drive in the US its a legal engine... for instance, some dude totalled his motorex R33 GTR in the rain a few years back and it went on ebay for a good bit, and that engine, since it passed emissions, would technically be legal for use in a car the same year or older, just like any other US spec engine...


Well, no issues with illegal engines where I live. So what's the point of it being legalized? I mean, really . .who gives a fuck? :ghey:

[andrave]

well, for state regulations, you can't be ticketed in one state for violating another state's regs. But if you get pulled over anywhere with an illegal motor and the cop recognizes it, he can write you a ticket for it.
Second, smog is coming. It will come where you live eventually, too... and when it does, your car won't be legal anymore.
They don't check in WV either but that doesn't make it legal...

[kazuo]

S15 is being legalized for importation by a RI (Registered Importer). I believe their name is "JDM Evolution" as one other poster pointed out.

Tyrone (Rodriguez? IIRC), the guy who works for IGN's "Cars" website recently was able to test drive one courtesy of the RI through Frisco and wrote an article about it. I do not have the URL but you can go to http://cars.ign.com/ and look it up.

List price will be $50,000 (too much; buy a Skyline)

So please shut the fuck up if you don't know what you're talking about and stop being asses, thanks.

And as far as the S15 motor goes... IIRC in California the motor being swapped in must be from the same year or NEWER in order for it to pass the BAR ref. So the S15 motor still wouldn't be legal in your S13. :(

It may be same year or OLDER but honestly I can't remember... I'm pretty sure its same year or newer :P

Otherwise you are still fucked :P

[No Motiv]

well at least we know one thing for sure. its illegal to drive the car if you get one here. if your imported one you cant register it to drive. it would have be used off-road use only. or just not driven period, and used only as a shopw car

FUCK THE S15

[kazuo]

well at least we know one thing for sure. its illegal to drive the car if you get one here. if your imported one you cant register it to drive. it would have be used off-road use only. or just not driven period, and used only as a shopw car

FUCK THE S15

I'm sorry to be such a jerk but...

Are you fucking retarded? Or just illiterate? An RI is legalizing the S15 Silvia. Just like Motorex legalized the R32/R33 Skyline GT-R.

I already told you where the proof is, so stop being a moron kthx

:rofl:

[cali240sxdrifter]

i don't really care about the S15, i just wanted people's input about if the SR would be legal now with a car that has the engine in it already. Geez, can't we just have a civil thread for once (not all of you just some). For the others thanks for the input.

Kazuo, yeah thats the importer company that I was talking about. I sent Tyrone an email about the S15 last Nov I think, a week later I got a reply about how the S15 would be around 60grand just for the Spec-S, low miles, and so-on. About 2 weeks later I got an email from someone within JdmEvo and told me that they will bring down their prices to a much day to day car buying price so even the avg. joe can buy one. Which like I stated was 30grand depending on car. The price now ain't that bad, but 30grand is alot with what you can do with it to another car to run and handle like it or even better. Ahwell, I'll keep on dreaming like the rest of yous hehe.

[curbsurfer]

jdm evolution is a ripoff check evolutionm.net for some horror stories. please dont get your hopes up about an s15.

they arent an RI either, they just applied iirc, and anyone can apply

[RedlineRacer]

Since we are on the topic of importing. Whats the deal with insurance on these? How would it be classified. Like I saw a s13 silvia (a real McCoy) on ebay a few months ago for a decent price. But, I started thinking about it. How would you get insurance on it? Would you say it is a 240sx? Or would have to get some special collectors insurance?

[andrave]

insure it for what its worth, same as a skyline. details are on motorex's website about that.

[kazuo]

You have to insure the car as a "kit car" basically. Cost of which is based off its worth.

a RHD S13 Silvia would probably just be insured as a LHD S13 240SX since thats probably how it would be registered, seeing that it is not a street-legal vehicle...

[KoukiS14]

who cares if they can legalize the S15 for the road anyway. . none of us here can buy it, we're all a bunch of busted losers.


to answer the question regarding engine legality (which doesn't matter in most areas in the U.S. anyway). . . I'd say, take a look at the legality of the RB.

[KoukiS14]

You have to insure the car as a "kit car" basically. Cost of which is based off its worth.

a RHD S13 Silvia would probably just be insured as a LHD S13 240SX since thats probably how it would be registered, seeing that it is not a street-legal vehicle...

Yeah the Silvia, from what I've read at USDOT, can NOT be legalized at all for use on public streets. The Skyline was a different story.

[andrave]

the silvia COULD be registered, it would just have to have the same kind of work done that the skyline needed.
And the price of doing all the testing is going to jack the price of the car up so high that anyone that really wanted one would just buy a 240sx, and a silvia front clip and get the engine, the bodywork, and the RHD (if for some crazed reason you wanted it, like maybe you delivery mail really fast or something?) and you would have 9/10ths the silvia for 1/10 the cost