Zenki Clear Headlights

[Da206ickness]

Hey guys wondering if anyone can help me out. I've been looking online and on the forums but can't find anything on clear headlights. Ive seen tutorials on how to install lenses but im looking to buy the housing as a whole. If anyone knows of any good companies or a link to a related thread please let me know. I don't really know much about them, if they're glass or plastic, whats a reputable company, or if one company makes them better than another etc. So any info would be nice. Thanks guys!

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[nissan-fanatic]

I'm on the same page.... :D

[Drift_86]

Hehe noob your best bet is to search circuit sport clear lens and do them yourself

[yomisiu]

^that.

buy them from enjuku racing or somewhere you trust and do it yourself. not difficult.

Circuit Sports S14 Zenki Headlight Cover - Enjuku Racing Parts, LLC (http://www.enjukuracing.com/products/Circuit-Sports-S14-Zenki-Headlight-Cover.html)

[blksylv]

double (http://zilvia.net/f/tech-talk/269529-s14-zenki-clear-headlight-lens.html) post ugh

[sidewaysil80]

if it's your daily i suggest hitting a junk yard or ebay to get a set of spare zenki head lights and do it to them, when the covers are off you can paint the housings as well.


ps.
does junyan or someone make equally clear corner lights? i dig the clear head lights but hate how they are always clearer then the corner lights...

[blksylv]

http://zilvia.net/f/tech-talk/269529-s14-zenki-clear-headlight-lens.html

super easy to do, did mines in less than an hr

http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7019/6432574763_4a7ef9d12c_z.jpg

[blksylv]

if it's your daily i suggest hitting a junk yard or ebay to get a set of spare zenki head lights and do it to them, when the covers are off you can paint the housings as well.


ps.
does junyan or someone make equally clear corner lights? i dig the clear head lights but hate how they are always clearer then the corner lights...


circuit sports started selling them a few months ago

Circuit Sports Lighting Clear Corners : S14 Zenki (Early) Silvia 1995-96 (http://www.phase2motortrend.com/orclcos14zes.html)

[Da206ickness]

Haha yes I am most definitely a noob when it comes to exteriors and thanks for the advice guys. The ones I've seen are with projectors, will the clear lens still look good without any other mods?

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[Da206ickness]

Also are the corner lights the same deal? Just buy the lens and do-it-yourself?

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[blksylv]

projectors are used during a retrofit to give a proper cutoff because with no fluting the light output is everywhere but where you need it trust me i know. the pic i have is just the clear lenses on the jdm housings. i liked them alot better than the clear lenses on the usdm housings due to the high beam and low beam being seperated in the jdm housing. no the corner lenses are bought as a complete unit. no assembly needed

[Jonathong]

Also are the corner lights the same deal? Just buy the lens and do-it-yourself?

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no the corner lights you can buy.

[yomisiu]

they look good without retro fitting projectors.

clear everything

http://i.imgur.com/9YcFH.jpg
(sil-014's car (http://zilvia.net/f/members/sil-014.html))

[fliprayzin240sx]

My old car with retrofitted Acura TSX projectors/HIDs, clear lenses, painted all the chromed out pieces except the high beam reflectors..
http://i58.photobucket.com/albums/g254/fliprayzin240sx/Zenki%20S14/IMG_14155.jpg
http://i58.photobucket.com/albums/g254/fliprayzin240sx/Zenki%20S14/IMG_14233.jpg
http://i58.photobucket.com/albums/g254/fliprayzin240sx/Zenki%20S14/IMG_3294.jpg

[Da206ickness]

Thanks for all the help. I probably have all I need for the headlight install and the rest I can get from work, pretty pricey tho since I just bought coils lol I'll post pics when I get em in :)

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[Da206ickness]

they look good without retro fitting projectors.

clear everything

http://i.imgur.com/9YcFH.jpg
(sil-014's car (http://zilvia.net/f/members/sil-014.html))

What kind of side mirrors are those?

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[blksylv]

either bomex or east bear

[krappy]

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v337/krappy/bc445bf4.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v337/krappy/99c6bb91.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v337/krappy/71cdc907.jpg

[nathanong87]

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v337/krappy/99c6bb91.jpg

that looks really good

[dtfdanyo]

^that looks great. I really like those Gatling gun shrouds.

order them from FRSport. Free shipping ;)

[s14unimog]

I think its worth mentioning that they effectively destroy any functional use of your headlights. You guys really hate the lines THAT much? I can't stand for any yellowing but the clear doesn't look right in my opinion. Projectors look just about as goofy in those lenses too.

EU spec lights FTW.

[yingiang]

i was wondering how it beams without the stock covers, the stock covers have lines to beam the lights correctly am i right? and when you open it you get little plates i guess glare protectors or something? with HID bulbs and the glare plate sitting above it.. the light beams look like shit correct? i'm asking cause on my friend's car he had the covers along with the glare protectors and his hids beam like boo boo. are you supposed to remove the plates?

[Jonathong]

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v337/krappy/bc445bf4.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v337/krappy/99c6bb91.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v337/krappy/71cdc907.jpg

What projector was used for this? This is one of the cleanest and better looking projector ones I've seen so far.

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[s14unimog]

i was wondering how it beams without the stock covers, the stock covers have lines to beam the lights correctly am i right?

You are. They look like trash and are entirely illegal for road use.

[yomisiu]

^lol.

its not like you cant see. its fine. not as good as OEM setup. its OK. do you live somewhere without streetlights or something? either way, you'd be fine. i've never been beeped at or high-beamed or whatever people do, with the HID's + clear. just dont be an idiot and not adjust your light angle after installation.

[s14unimog]

It has nothing to do with their output. It's what everyone else sees thats the problem.

[fliprayzin240sx]

Get clear lenses, buy cheap HID kits, makes everything bright at night. Catch is, everybody else will hate you. You can make bigger cut off/casper cover so people wont try to run you off the road since you just blinded them.

[DoobieS13]

will they still perform good with just regular bulbs in them. im not trying to go h.i.d. i just want to get red of my fogged up lights

[joshls2]

will they still perform good with just regular bulbs in them. im not trying to go h.i.d. i just want to get red of my fogged up lights

no. the light pattern will still look like shit. just not as bright.

you can always wet sand your lenses, 1000G up to like 2500G and then polish them to make em look new again. probably better than new.

[silviaks2nr]

I offered some advice/knowledge and examples of a few projector retrofits in a recent thread: http://zilvia.net/f/chat/432222-zenki-clear-lens-lighting.html perhaps a moderator can combine the threads?

[KiLLeR2001]

If I had an s14 I'd just buy the glass headlights and call it a day. All these silly clear headlight covers do not appear optimal.

[fliprayzin240sx]

If I had an s14 I'd just buy the glass headlights and call it a day. All these silly clear headlight covers do not appear optimal.

$600 solution (German Headlights) vs $160 solution (Clear lenses)...

[S13k's]

i was wondering how it beams without the stock covers, the stock covers have lines to beam the lights correctly am i right?

You are. They look like trash and are entirely illegal for road use.

Not the best choice of words but definitely the clearest. When you put projectors in housings and leave the reflector the light bounces differently and it can be very dangerous for oncoming drivers. That's why people who switch to projectors either remove the surrounding reflectors or paint them black. Look up a few videos, and make sure your light angle is adjusted properly before and after.
It will save you some problems in the future....

[KiLLeR2001]

$600 solution (German Headlights) vs $160 solution (Clear lenses)...

I read that as...

real enthusiast vs modern day hipster.

[fliprayzin240sx]

Not the best choice of words but definitely the clearest. When you put projectors in housings and leave the reflector the light bounces differently and it can be very dangerous for oncoming drivers. That's why people who switch to projectors either remove the surrounding reflectors or paint them black. Look up a few videos, and make sure your light angle is adjusted properly before and after.
It will save you some problems in the future....

What the fuck are you talking about? If you retrofit projectors in a reflector housing, what makes you think the light will bounce back to the reflector??? Its a projector sending the light output FORWARD, not to the sides. People painting the reflectors have nothing to do with the light output, its all for aesthetics.

I think you missed understood what Ying is asking about. He's asking about the flutes on the stock headlight lenses.

[fliprayzin240sx]

I read that as...

real enthusiast vs modern day hipster.

No, its more like I have better shit to do with my money than spend $600 on a set of headlights, that just doesnt turn yellow, but still have shitty light output since you're still stuck using shitty halogen bulbs.

What do people with German headlights do? Slap debased HID kits that does the same exact thing when people slap clear lenses on stock Zenki headlights.

When I got my last S14, I had two lighting options. Either do the retrofit or do a full Kouki front end swap.

[KiLLeR2001]

No, its more like I have better shit to do with my money than spend $600 on a set of headlights, that just doesnt turn yellow, but still have shitty light output since you're still stuck using shitty halogen bulbs.

What do people with German headlights do? Slap debased HID kits that does the same exact thing when people slap clear lenses on stock Zenki headlights.

When I got my last S14, I had two lighting options. Either do the retrofit or do a full Kouki front end swap.

I thought we were talking about people who slap clear lenses on their stock halogen lights. :2f2f:

[fliprayzin240sx]

I thought we were talking about people who slap clear lenses on their stock halogen lights. :2f2f:

The only down side of the clear lens is that without the flutes, the output is slightly dispersed (may or may not have some glare for on coming traffic) but its a definite light/day difference over the yellowing stockers. German headlights is all fine and dandy but in my opinion doesnt warrant the $600 price tag since it will have the same light output as clear lenses.

The #1 thing not to do with any Zenki Headlight is just slap a debased HID kit in (doesnt matter stock, clear lenses or German headlights). Without adding more casper shield inside the reflectors, there is almost no cutoff since the glare is horrendous. People doesnt put into consideration that the light pattern out of an HID bulb is not the same as a regular halogen bulb.

[ixfxi]

If I had an s14 I'd just buy the glass headlights and call it a day. All these silly clear headlight covers do not appear optimal.

Spoken like a true prodigy.


$600 solution (German Headlights) vs $160 solution (Clear lenses)...

Clear lenses arent a solution, they're a trendy problem. They're not of OE-casting quality and fitment is more of "making it fit" as opposed to them actually fitting. Its much like how guys with 350Z's will ruin their headlight lenses and then buy aftermarket (ie DEPO) taiwanese crap lenses. Sure, they appear to fit... except they dont. Then they further compound the problem by doing-whatever-it-takes to seal them, like silicone around the perimeters and all sorts of ghetto attempts to seal the light. Idiots can spend a lifetime attempting to patch-fix their sub-par work, much like buying harbor-freight products over and over and over........ and over.


Not the best choice of words but definitely the clearest. When you put projectors in housings and leave the reflector the light bounces differently and it can be very dangerous for oncoming drivers. That's why people who switch to projectors either remove the surrounding reflectors or paint them black.

Wow, you're smart. I thought it was only 350Z 03-05 headlights that used a hybrid projector/reflector, but you seem to be providing some really unique information to this thread. Thanks for the heads up, y0.


No, its more like I have better shit to do with my money than spend $600 on a set of headlights, that just doesnt turn yellow, but still have shitty light output since you're still stuck using shitty halogen bulbs.

Either do the retrofit or do a full Kouki front end swap.

One way or the other, it all costs money. Want to keep it economical? 95-96 owners should buy the euro headlights and run high-wattage bulbs w/ relay harness. Want to do it proper, bigtime? Spend bookoo bucks on 97-98 front end and even more on a proper projector retrofit. In the end, it all costs...

What happened? S14 owners are supposed to be the ballers in the community. I think nowadays S13 owners have been spending way more. Talkin about $600 like its a lot of money. I think I spent more on my door gaskets for my hatch. Yawl a bunch of BROKE ASS BITCHES. HATE_HATE_HATE! haha

[s14j]

i bought some clear lenses. i dint pay full price because i got them from someone else that had them BNIB, and it was a deal. there oky, fitment is like oky. im not paying 600 bucks for some headlights. paying the 135 for covers and corners compared to 600 is way better.

although lighting sucks ass if you dont retrofit, so its a waist of money, lesson learned.

[fliprayzin240sx]

Spoken like a true prodigy.




Clear lenses arent a solution, they're a trendy problem. They're not of OE-casting quality and fitment is more of "making it fit" as opposed to them actually fitting. Its much like how guys with 350Z's will ruin their headlight lenses and then buy aftermarket (ie DEPO) taiwanese crap lenses. Sure, they appear to fit... except they dont. Then they further compound the problem by doing-whatever-it-takes to seal them, like silicone around the perimeters and all sorts of ghetto attempts to seal the light. Idiots can spend a lifetime attempting to patch-fix their sub-par work, much like buying harbor-freight products over and over and over........ and over.




Wow, you're smart. I thought it was only 350Z 03-05 headlights that used a hybrid projector/reflector, but you seem to be providing some really unique information to this thread. Thanks for the heads up, y0.




One way or the other, it all costs money. Want to keep it economical? 95-96 owners should buy the euro headlights and run high-wattage bulbs w/ relay harness. Want to do it proper, bigtime? Spend bookoo bucks on 97-98 front end and even more on a proper projector retrofit. In the end, it all costs...

What happened? S14 owners are supposed to be the ballers in the community. I think nowadays S13 owners have been spending way more. Talkin about $600 like its a lot of money. I think I spent more on my door gaskets for my hatch. Yawl a bunch of BROKE ASS BITCHES. HATE_HATE_HATE! haha

Man, you're still cranky Mike...which way do you think I went? I learned half this shit from your ass...
Went fromt his crap:
http://i58.photobucket.com/albums/g254/fliprayzin240sx/Zenki%20S14/PA230008.jpg
To this:
http://i58.photobucket.com/albums/g254/fliprayzin240sx/Zenki%20S14/IMG_14155.jpg
http://i58.photobucket.com/albums/g254/fliprayzin240sx/Zenki%20S14/IMG_3294.jpg

Did this shit 4 yrs ago and only clear lenses out were the OG Supermade ones. $300 for the clear corners and another $250 for the TSX HID/projector setup...

[EDacIouSX]

Where are you guys getting 600 from? extra 150 bucks from shipping or something??

MyNismo.com - NISSAN OEM Euro Spec Headlights - Zenki S14 (http://www.mynismo.com/products/?id=3631)

[ixfxi]

Man, you're still cranky Mike...which way do you think I went? I learned half this shit from your ass...
Went fromt his crap:
To this:
Did this shit 4 yrs ago and only clear lenses out were the OG Supermade ones. $300 for the clear corners and another $250 for the TSX HID/projector setup...

i hear ya... i'm just saying, if you have a choice (which all of us do) to pick a front-end for the s14, the 97-98 is the choice setup. the only reason people opt to stay 95-96 is because they dont want to spend the coin, thats it. they use every excuse in the book about looks and this and that, but its bullshit. 97-98, period. end. finished.

now, once you acquire the 97-98 setup, then you can have glass headlights with projectors. until then, you waste time with clear lens tsx blah blah blah... all of which have no value. what has value? 97-98 front-end w/ nice OEM glass headlights and a tasteful projector swap.

just sayin tho, what do i know. i own an s13. :-)

ps: just kinda funny how this thread has been discussed over and over and over again for AGES now. i dont know why this shit isnt sticky, or why we dont have a sticky section. this forum is just regurgitating the same information day after day.

[s14unimog]

$600 solution (German Headlights)

Incorrect sir. They are no longer that much anymore. Even new through Courtesy they don't cost quite that (close to it though). The best way to get a set is to get in touch with some one over in the UK. They hate their Zenki's and almost give those lights away. I bought my set for $180 shipped...

[yomisiu]

i hear ya... i'm just saying, if you have a choice (which all of us do) to pick a front-end for the s14, the 97-98 is the choice setup. the only reason people opt to stay 95-96 is because they dont want to spend the coin, thats it. they use every excuse in the book about looks and this and that, but its bullshit. 97-98, period. end. finished.


:squint:

thats a load of bull shit. you cannot speak for everyone.

also, if you can afford this set-up you can afford a kouki conversion.

JDM headlight = 100+
(or german glass 500)
clear cover = 200
HID/Projector = 80-200

then sell your front end
Zenki fenders= 200?
Zenki Hood=200?
Zenki bumper=100?

you'd come up with enough for a Kouki front swap. So dont talk about not 'spending the coin'. some people actually like the zenki front.

[s14unimog]

some people actually like the zenki front.

:stupid:

msglngt

[slydin240sx]

:stupid:

msglngt

This!

msglength

[ixfxi]

you'd come up with enough for a Kouki front swap. So dont talk about not 'spending the coin'. some people actually like the zenki front.

yeah, those people are called "too broke to afford a 97-98 front-end"

95-96 looks like shit. and the lights, perform like shit too.

i mean, its no wonder... i've been around for ages and to-date, have never seen a good looking xenon headlight setup for the 95-96. they've all been some crazy johny5 cyborg looking bullshit, just like when people attempt to retrofit the s13 popups with projectors. its always fail, nonstop fail after fail.

[KiLLeR2001]

i mean, its no wonder... i've been around for ages and to-date, have never seen a good looking xenon headlight setup for the 95-96. they've all been some crazy johny5 cyborg looking bullshit, just like when people attempt to retrofit the s13 popups with projectors. its always fail, nonstop fail after fail.

LOL. No kidding. I can't count the amount of s13 headlights I've seen that are trash.

True ballers will go S15 front. Extreme ballers will go S15 front and buy those tasty xenon headlights Mike has on his site, goddamn those sexy fuckers.

[Sergio180sx]

they look good without retro fitting projectors.

clear everything

http://i.imgur.com/9YcFH.jpg
(sil-014's car (http://zilvia.net/f/members/sil-014.html))

is that a m3 lip?

[rat240]

yeah s15 head lights with Japanese light cut off

[yomisiu]

yeah, those people are called "too broke to afford a 97-98 front-end"



you cant read well, can you?

its amazing how much of an arrogant jackass someone can be.

your statements are fucking jokes. its like saying "you're too broke to like the color blue."

if i wanted a kouki front end, i'd buy a fucking kouki.

it's preference. yeah, the kouki's headlights preform better,
but fuck no does that make me want to change the front end of my car because of how better their lights preform.

where the fuck do you live that requires such lighting standard? a shack in the wilderness?
probably. because you drive a s13 and are too broke to afford a s14.

see what i did there? SO FUNNY!

[ixfxi]

its amazing how much of an arrogant jackass someone can be.

your statements are fucking jokes. its like saying........

arrogant because I am joking. in all honesty, yes, i understand that people actually can prefer the 95-96 front-end. My friend Glenn preferred the 95-96 tail lights too. Though, it was amazing how quickly people jumped on the offer to swap tail lights with him.

In the end, its all preference. But when you're done being a stubborn fuck, you'll probably just end up agreeing that the 97-98 front-end is the *choice* front-end.

Why do I have high standards in terms of lighting? I dunno.. maybe it has something to do with my job.



yeah s15 head lights with Japanese light cut off

not all s15 headlights have a Japanese light cut off. driftfreaq has some LHD xenons

[yingiang]

i wasn't talking about the clear covers along with projectors. i'm just saying clear covers with the hid bulbs. or halogen for the matter how its beamed. i know stock covers beams pretty well with hids and clear covers with hids beam like shit. any way to fix it where it'll beam out just as well as stock covers?

[yomisiu]

nice! lets be friends for now.


so to stay on topic:

clear lights if you dont give a fuck about anyones safety and want "cool" looks.

german glass if you want nice lighting and no more yellowing.

kouki swap if you have the means and/or are anti zenki

s15 front if you just want to be a major boss for the world and all its internets.

[canasion35]

so why don't you just buy the 3m polishing kit from like walmart? its 20 bucks and makes them clear as day and stays that way for years to come.

[fliprayzin240sx]

Funny thing is, I got a full JDM Kouki Front end with the optional OEM lip sitting in my storage. Just dont want to put it on and have a white front end on a green car. I dont feel like rattlecanning the damn car. I might just slap it on and Maaco the fucking car...

[KiLLeR2001]

s15 front if you just want to be a major boss for the world and all its internets.

^^^ this

Funny thing is, I got a full JDM Kouki Front end with the optional OEM lip sitting in my storage. Just dont want to put it on and have a white front end on a green car. I dont feel like rattlecanning the damn car. I might just slap it on and Maaco the fucking car...

Prep the body panels yourself and take them to Maaco for a spray. Nissan paint code: FN2 (Blue Emerald Pearl) for 95/96 models. Do work son.

[ixfxi]

so why don't you just buy the 3m polishing kit from like walmart? its 20 bucks and makes them clear as day and stays that way for years to come.

clearly you havent studied the effects of UV and how it degrades that type of plastic. a (insert brand name of choice here) polishing kit wont do shit other than remove the top layers which then subjects the new layers to UV degradation. you start all over again. there are ways to protect the plastic, but they're not simple.

simplest solution is the eu-glass headlights or 97-98 front, as said. but what do i know.


Funny thing is, I got a full JDM Kouki Front end with the optional OEM lip sitting in my storage. Just dont want to put it on and have a white front end on a green car. I dont feel like rattlecanning the damn car. I might just slap it on and Maaco the fucking car...

you'll feel like a champ once you "slap together" your precious front-end. just take it to a fucking body shop and do it right.

i hope you're running USDM headlights, unless you plan on modifying the optics. again, what do i know.

[fliprayzin240sx]

clearly you havent studied the effects of UV and how it degrades that type of plastic. a (insert brand name of choice here) polishing kit wont do shit other than remove the top layers which then subjects the new layers to UV degradation. you start all over again. there are ways to protect the plastic, but they're not simple.

simplest solution is the eu-glass headlights or 97-98 front, as said. but what do i know.




you'll feel like a champ once you "slap together" your precious front-end. just take it to a fucking body shop and do it right.

i hope you're running USDM headlights, unless you plan on modifying the optics. again, what do i know.

Eh...fuck on coming traffic...

But for reals tho, I'll probably flatten the left side cut off so it wont flare out. I did the same thing with the TSX ones so I wouldnt blind JDM drivers with the right side.