the brake swap thread

[JaredP]

Alright, looking to get a collection of all the popular "brake swaps" for the s-chassis. A place where everyone can comment on how certain swaps feel and for what power levels the brakes are good for. This is for all swaps, either from other cars, or aftermarket (willwood) calipers with hardware/rotor setups that work. Also including front/rear balanced setups and pictures to show wheel clearance (and for those of us who like that minimal caliper>wheel clearance). i did a search, but all the information is spread out, i thought it would be nice to have it all in one place.

First off, lets get technical and describe how a brake system works, and get a basis for upgrading. For those in for a read: http://www.grc.nasa.gov/WWW/k-12/WindTunnel/Activities/Pascals_principle.html

This is how our brake system works, and how we must look at upgrading it. The brake pedal/brake booster offers a leverage advantage of force on the master cylinder. With this, and the principles of hydraulic fluids, we are able to put tremendous forces on the brake pads. Simply put, the larger the caliper pistons, the more force you can output on the pads (given the same size master cylinder). With the same point, the larger a master cylinder bore, the greater input force is required to have the same output. It is generally recommended to go to a larger master cylinder if you upgrade the brakes, to get rid of that "soft" feeling in the pedal.

Master Cylinder Options:
stock bmc bore is 15/16".

1. Z32: so far the only BMC I know that is direct replacement. Either 1" or 1 1/16" bore.

1. Z32/skyline gtst brakes
-front calipers: bolt on
-rear calipers: bolt on
-z32 rotors/pads (26 or 30mm depending on caliper in the front). have 5 lug or redrill to 4 lug if needed
-brake lines: lots of variations of swap brake lines are available online
special notes: z33 track rotors can be used in front with an adapter plate, z32 2+2 ebrake lines supposedly reach stock location with rerouting, can also use extensions found on ebay or make some yourself like this:
http://t3.gstatic.com/imagesq=tbn:ANd9GcTm6Ndvia9GdGD87LPcuaU3GMW-ecFsc4xCtcj7DnzSl_UOqRRLU0eUzPuqig


2. Evo/sti brembo brakes
Front: 04 STi Brembo calipers / Evo rotors
Rear: 04 STi Brembo calipers / Evo rotors
Brake lines: Brembo brake lines for STi Brembos
notes: rear caliper/ebrake. brembo calipers on your z32 setup:
http://zilvia.net/f/tech-talk/93748-check-out-my-new-big-brakes-anyone-else-do-yet-8.html#post1342840
note about sti rears:
http://zilvia.net/f/tech-talk/93748-check-out-my-new-big-brakes-anyone-else-do-yet-11.html#post2057367

front calipers need adapter bracket:
http://img223.imageshack.us/img223/3762/picture0588ln.jpg
http://img249.imageshack.us/img249/3536/brembobracket1fs0.jpg

mounted picture (17" wheel)
http://www.driftclub-il.com/johnc/Nissan/Brakes/brakes11.jpg

3. sentra se-r vspec brembo fronts
-work well with z32 rear
-bolt right up to front
-sentra rotors redrilled

anyone with different brake setups, post what you got, pics, how it feels. lets try to keep the general chat to a min and post up brake setups!

[atutt]

Since when has it been required to use Z32/GTST rear knuckles for rear Z32 calipers on a S13/14?

[JaredP]

i was under the impression they were, as when i was new to s-chassis thats what everyone told me. did some googling, fixed the error. thanks atutt

[zooopreme]

Q45 fronts, S13 rear. Direct bolt on, uses S13/S14 brake lines. Stock BMC can be used.

Redrill to 4 lug if needed.

[Ted J]

Q45 fronts, S13 rear. Direct bolt on, uses S13/S14 brake lines. Stock BMC can be used.

Redrill to 4 lug if needed.

Could a person also do the Altima larger rotor on the S13 rear to gain a little more rear braking? Like is it worth it?

[japslapsilvia]

Could a person also do the Altima larger rotor on the S13 rear to gain a little more rear braking? Like is it worth it?


http://zilvia.net/f/archive-faqs/291877-diy-z31-2003-altima-rear-rotor-upgrade-s14-calipers.html

[fatduece]

^ I don't see how upgrading to a bigger rotor increases braking ability. The only thing I can think of is quicker heat dissipation. The caliper stays the same (weak single piston, that continues to do the same thing, being weak. ) the only way you can make it better is with a good pad compound, and that's the limit of that set up. Looks like a waste of time to me. The dual z32 rear piston caliper will do a far better job even on a tiny rotor.




P.S. I am not a expert on brakes. Just saying whats on my mind =P

[zooopreme]

^ I don't see how upgrading to a bigger rotor increases braking ability. The only thing I can think of is quicker heat dissipation. The caliper stays the same (weak single piston, that continues to do the same thing, being weak. ) the only way you can make it better is with a good pad compound, and that's the limit of that set up. Looks like a waste of time to me. The dual z32 rear piston caliper will do a far better job even on a tiny rotor.

P.S. I am not a expert on brakes. Just saying whats on my mind =P

If you had read the entire thing, you would have found this:

Certainly there will be those who argue that 'Z32 rears are better' just because that's what has been regurgitated 100 times on forums, but I would love to see any quantified research showing me so. This setup allows a larger rotor with the stock calipers, stock e brake, etc etc...a perfect solution for a minimalist like me.

If anything, that is an ALTERNATIVE TO/CHEAPER THAN the z32 rears. And more street oriented might I add.

[fatduece]

I did read it. Which is why I said it looks like a pointless upgrade no matter how cheap it costs. You're better off sticking with the stock rotor and upgraded pads.

[Bushido]

I did the altima rear rotors with z31 carrier and stock rear calipers, i didn't do it to improve braking, just did it cause stock rotors look tiny inside 18's...

i had a z31 carrier on a parts car lying around and i needed new rotors anyways... it probably ain't worth it to go out of the way to do it.



...moral of the story, save up for mustang rotors and dual z32 calipers.

[JaredP]

besides the fact that larger rotors = better heat dissipation (if both are the same type, ie. vented, solid etc.) and all the frictional/physics stuff like that, a larger rotor will give you more leverage on the hub to slow the wheel down.

think like a lever, the further from the pivot the easier it is to lift/move a load. now apply this to the wheel. the pivot is the hub with the tread on the tire being the "handle" of the lever. it puts tremendous stress on any brakes, but with a larger rotor, that force is reduced allowing it to stop easier.

now of course this only applies to situations that maintain identical pad contact areas. the best part of bigger rotors is you can use bigger pads, increasing contact area and greatly improving braking

[Shayl]

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[Mikeyboy]

Master Cylinder Options:
a larger bore master cylinder will move more fluid as the pedal is depressed and can give a "squishy" pedal feeling on stock brakes. a larger bore requires less pedal effort and travel to apply the same force to a caliper piston.



Ok I gotta say it...
By increasing the master cylinder diameter, while lessening pedal travel, the amount of force needed to create the same amount of force in the brake calipers increases. So increasing the bmc size should only be done in proportion to the increase in total caliper piston diameter.

[JaredP]

your right, i was thinking about it backwards. its been a while since i've gone over the calculations. good eye, not trying to spread false information

[Kaifd3s]

After a little investigation,

Ive read that the SE-R SpecV Brembos use a 300x22mm disc rotor. Now Ive searched and have seen that the R33 GTR Brembos rear AND 03-05 Evo's rear use the same size rotor. Now would I be able to use those rotors on the SE-R calipers in the front in an S14?

Im guessing yes?

[JaredP]

you have to look at hat offset as well, which is generally different between a front/rear rotor. im pretty sure the evos use a drum ebrake too which is going to mean they are deeper to the hub mounting point. easiest/best way would probably just have some sentra rotors redrilled but who knows the rears might work! i'm not familiar with the r33 brembo rear setup either, but i could see it being drum e-brake like the r32

[JaredP]

cheaper option to buying the full front wilwood big brake kit:

1. wilwood forged superlite internal 4 piston calipers:
Wilwood High-Performance Disc Brakes - Forged Superlite Internal Calipers (http://www.wilwood.com/Calipers/CaliperList.aspx?subname=Forged%20Superlite%20Inte rnal)

2. z33 track rotors + adapter bracket (make your own, or can find online).

after some research, the z33 rotors are 12.76" diameter, and 1.18" thick. this would mean you want one of the calipers that has a rotor max thickness of 1.25 in the link above. the only other decision needing to be made is what you want your overall piston area to be.

install guide (from willwood): http://www.wilwood.com/Pdf/howtostories/Nissan_240SX_Brake_Install.pdf
brake lines: p/n 220-9199 from willwood. http://www.wilwood.com/LineKits/LineKitsProd.aspx?itemno=220-9199 or you could buy a 1/8-27 npt fitting to -3 adapter and use any brake line you wish that corresponds


these pics belong to WISH ONE and i hope he doesnt mind me sharing:
http://i20.photobucket.com/albums/b243/mikeishellafresh/IMG_4879.jpg
http://i20.photobucket.com/albums/b243/mikeishellafresh/IMG_4876.jpg
http://i20.photobucket.com/albums/b243/mikeishellafresh/28ae19c6.jpg

[Kaifd3s]

cheaper option to buying the full front wilwood big brake kit:

1. wilwood forged superlite internal 4 piston calipers:
Wilwood High-Performance Disc Brakes - Forged Superlite Internal Calipers (http://www.wilwood.com/Calipers/CaliperList.aspx?subname=Forged%20Superlite%20Inte rnal)

2. z33 track rotors + adapter bracket (make your own, or can find online)

after some research, the z33 rotors are 12.76" diameter, and 1.18" thick. this would mean you want one of the calipers that has a rotor max thickness of 1.25 in the link above. the only other decision needing to be made is what you want your overall piston area to be.



What about lines?

[JaredP]

What about lines?

a 1/8-27 npt fitting is used to go into the caliper. an adapter from 1/8-27 > -3 can be purchased. line info posted above


will be updating with more technical things in the near future

[ILoveMyRHS13]

I LOVE my current setup. It feels very balanced.

Front Calipers - Q45
Rear Calipers - Stock S13 with Z31 bracket with 2003 Altima rear rotors.
Master cylinder - Z31 TT

[killer240]

mine, i love it
i dont really like my rear set up which is Sti + Z32 rotors, im thinking about a special order. IDC! lol dont mind the harness, i will be tucking it, and tubs!

http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7003/6764052307_066c0ef740.jpg (http://www.flickr.com/photos/[email protected]/6764052307/)
IMG_3142 (http://www.flickr.com/photos/[email protected]/6764052307/) by d_2jzgte (http://www.flickr.com/people/[email protected]/), on Flickr

[JaredP]

^^^sti brembos in the front right? what dont you like about the rears? feels unbiased? and what size is the wheel (im gonna guess 17")

[ManoNegra]

After a little investigation,

Ive read that the SE-R SpecV Brembos use a 300x22mm disc rotor. Now Ive searched and have seen that the R33 GTR Brembos rear AND 03-05 Evo's rear use the same size rotor. Now would I be able to use those rotors on the SE-R calipers in the front in an S14?

Im guessing yes?

Brilliant Florida
except what do you plan to do about the fact that rear R33 and Evo rotors
are designed to house a e-brake assembly?

or even if they did bolt on, what makes you think they've be the right offset to the caliper?

[ManoNegra]

cheaper option to buying the full front wilwood big brake kit:


Heading in the right direction but not quite there

CodyAce knows what's up:
http://www.codyace.com/albums/album434/install2.sized.jpg

http://www.codyace.com/albums/album434/install1.sized.jpg

[JaredP]

^details? trying to get all the info in one place. also, that caliper doesnt look like its mounted in the stock caliper mounts...looks a bit low?

[killer240]

^^^sti brembos in the front right? what dont you like about the rears? feels unbiased? and what size is the wheel (im gonna guess 17")

yes Sti fronts and rears +17/16 BMC and yes those are 17's
Sti rear rotors are thicker than Z32's


i want to get another S chassis just so i can slap on some project muahahahaha



oh and that wilwood set up looks good

[onehundredoctane]

This is purely to serve as a mild brake upgrade on my S14 until I decide to put more money into it. Currently have 2001 Q45 rotors and calipers up front with Hawk HPS pads, then out back I have the Z31 caliper bracket with 2003 Altima rear rotors and Hawk HPS pad in the stock S14 calipers. So far it's been good enough to take the 60-0 distance from 143 feet down to 119 feet.

[shiftdrift]

i'll be installing my wilwood superlite/z33 brembo setup this weekend, upgrading from a z32 setup. around spring i plan to upgrade to the 2 piece wilwood rotors also.

[ManoNegra]

^details? trying to get all the info in one place. also, that caliper doesnt look like its mounted in the stock caliper mounts...looks a bit low?

Defsport / Skullworks Budget Baller Wilwood FSL Kit (http://nissanroadracing.com/showthread.php?t=2789)

also if you care to learn more about the nuances of the Evo/STi Brembo caliper swap search under my username
I know I've posted a good deal of information on the swap

[JaredP]

i've actually read about that def/skullworks brake setup, but could never find any info. thanks mano!

[ZilviaKid]

Why does no one at all have a Brembo BBK?

like an actual kit, not stealing calipers from another car

[atom]

Look at the price of a brembo GT kit, is it that big of a mystery?

[zooopreme]

Where are some of you sourcing your Z31 rear brackets? I'm looking to head that direction someday.

[onehundredoctane]

Where are some of you sourcing your Z31 rear brackets? I'm looking to head that direction someday.

Every time I go to a junk yard I try to pull some just to keep em from getting crushed. I have a spare set that could use a good cleaning. PM me if you're interested. Doing this rear brake upgrade really helped my cars braking feel more neutral, the car doesn't nose dive as bad anymore. Probably the cheapest bang for the buck upgrade I've done in a long while.

[Chuvy]

Look at the price of a brembo GT kit, is it that big of a mystery?

The cayanne and Audi q4, or q5, have the same calipers as the gt kits. You could actually piece together a gt kit

[ZilviaKid]

Look at the price of a brembo GT kit, is it that big of a mystery?

considering the wheel elitism on this forum, im gonna start tearing into the assholes of people who get 200 dollar 300zx brakes and spend 4k on wheels.

[[email protected]]

I always thought it was strange the z32tt uses 280x30mm front rotors and larger diameter 297x18mm on the rear. I believe I heard z32 owners upgrade only pads and the front rotors/calipers and leave the rears as is since they're pretty good factory spec?

[JaredP]

considering the wheel elitism on this forum, im gonna start tearing into the assholes of people who get 200 dollar 300zx brakes and spend 4k on wheels.

people dont buy the brembo bbk because most of the people dont need it. even the lsx s-chassis cars will be fine with some of the smaller, cheaper brembo-swap options, or even just the willwood kit.

i can assure you that the people that DO need brakes that size, have them, and $4k wheels are the last of their worries

I always thought it was strange the z32tt uses 280x30mm front rotors and larger diameter 297x18mm on the rear. I believe I heard z32 owners upgrade only pads and the front rotors/calipers and leave the rears as is since they're pretty good factory spec?

front z32 calipers are 4 piston, while the rears are only dual. not to mention the thickness of the caliper will do more for cooling and brake fade then a few extra millimetres in diameter

[GabeS14]

Heading in the right direction but not quite there

CodyAce knows what's up:
http://www.codyace.com/albums/album434/install2.sized.jpg

http://www.codyace.com/albums/album434/install1.sized.jpg

not sure if you answered this before, but could I run low disk leon hardritt ordens with those? or any idea of the size of the spacer needed to possibly clear?
I am def not going to be able to run BBK in my build,because of my wheel sizings. But for the motor I am running I do need good brakes... so I need a smaller but good quality option.

[onehundredoctane]

Wilwood Grand Nationals, (covered with painters tape here to protect wheel and caliper in case it was tight, this was purely for test fitting.) on Z33 track rotors. Confirming that they wheel clear 16" DT-O5R wheels.

https://fbcdn-sphotos-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-ash4/423796_10150704566640379_502775378_11580219_397422 766_n.jpg

[blueshark123]

Has any one mentioned the cts-v brembo brakes upgrade?

[Rancimo322]

No good upgrades for the broke s13 folks ???
well w/e i went altima rotors on j30 breaks front = $30
and z31 rotors with bracket = $20
over all less then $80 after having the rotors
machined. I<3junkyards ;)

[onehundredoctane]

Posted the Grand National caliper last time, finally mounted the Forged Superlite Internal that I'll actually be running :) 1.38" pistons

http://carolinanissans.com/spotlight/wp-content/uploads/2012/04/facebook_1157616124.jpg

[florante rea]

My new setup, sti calipers w evox rotors fronts, rears i'm using 300zx tt.

[SandmanST6]

I know the thread says that the R33 GST calipers can take a Z33 track rotor, I have that set up on my S14, however there is a decient amount of the inside portion of the rotor that is not being used. This is very annoying because of the pad overhang and leaving all that braking power off the rotor. I am not sure if R33 spindles will do anything to bring the caliper down closer to the rotor ,or If I need to try to find a different adaptor bracket ? Any Ideas?

[badbob2121]

I have the ArizonaZCar Wilwood 4POT, 12.2" front kit.
240SX Brakes (http://arizonazcar.com/240sxbrakes.html)

I love the kit so far, Dave at ArizonaZCar provided great customer service and has great pricing as well.

http://i803.photobucket.com/albums/yy317/badbob2121/IMG_1052-2.jpg
http://i803.photobucket.com/albums/yy317/badbob2121/IMG_1053.jpg
http://i803.photobucket.com/albums/yy317/badbob2121/IMG_1194.jpg

[ghoti]

Wonder why no one mentioned J30 brakes all around. They're very similar to the Q45 ones.
The piston diameter is the same as well as the rotor for both J30 & Q45 front calipers at least, not sure about the back.
Pads are the same size execpt for the Y33 chassis which i believe are like .2 longer.

J30 / Q45 Caliper
Cylinder bore diameter 42.8mm (1.685") x 2
Pad Lining Length x Width X Thickness
127mm x 56mm x 9.5mm (5"x2.2"x.0374")

[g_mac530]

Anyone running the PSM rear knuckles with z32 or any upgraded rear brakes?

[S13queen]

Alright, looking to get a collection of all the popular "brake swaps" for the s-chassis. A place where everyone can comment on how certain swaps feel and for what power levels the brakes are good for. This is for all swaps, either from other cars, or aftermarket (willwood) calipers with hardware/rotor setups that work. Also including front/rear balanced setups and pictures to show wheel clearance (and for those of us who like that minimal caliper>wheel clearance). i did a search, but all the information is spread out, i thought it would be nice to have it all in one place.

First off, lets get technical and describe how a brake system works, and get a basis for upgrading. For those in for a read: Pascal's Principle and Hydraulics (http://www.grc.nasa.gov/WWW/k-12/WindTunnel/Activities/Pascals_principle.html)

This is how our brake system works, and how we must look at upgrading it. The brake pedal/brake booster offers a leverage advantage of force on the master cylinder. With this, and the principles of hydraulic fluids, we are able to put tremendous forces on the brake pads. Simply put, the larger the caliper pistons, the more force you can output on the pads (given the same size master cylinder). With the same point, the larger a master cylinder bore, the greater input force is required to have the same output. It is generally recommended to go to a larger master cylinder if you upgrade the brakes, to get rid of that "soft" feeling in the pedal.

Master Cylinder Options:
stock bmc bore is 15/16".

1. Z32: so far the only BMC I know that is direct replacement. Either 1" or 1 1/16" bore.

1. Z32/skyline gtst brakes
-front calipers: bolt on
-rear calipers: bolt on
-z32 rotors/pads (26 or 30mm depending on caliper in the front). have 5 lug or redrill to 4 lug if needed
-brake lines: lots of variations of swap brake lines are available online
special notes: z33 track rotors can be used in front with an adapter plate, z32 2+2 ebrake lines supposedly reach stock location with rerouting, can also use extensions found on ebay or make some yourself like this:
http://t3.gstatic.com/imagesq=tbn:ANd9GcTm6Ndvia9GdGD87LPcuaU3GMW-ecFsc4xCtcj7DnzSl_UOqRRLU0eUzPuqig


2. Evo/sti brembo brakes
Front: 04 STi Brembo calipers / Evo rotors
Rear: 04 STi Brembo calipers / Evo rotors
Brake lines: Brembo brake lines for STi Brembos
notes: rear caliper/ebrake. brembo calipers on your z32 setup:
http://zilvia.net/f/tech-talk/93748-check-out-my-new-big-brakes-anyone-else-do-yet-8.html#post1342840
note about sti rears:
http://zilvia.net/f/tech-talk/93748-check-out-my-new-big-brakes-anyone-else-do-yet-11.html#post2057367

front calipers need adapter bracket:
http://img223.imageshack.us/img223/3762/picture0588ln.jpg
http://img249.imageshack.us/img249/3536/brembobracket1fs0.jpg

mounted picture (17" wheel)
http://www.driftclub-il.com/johnc/Nissan/Brakes/brakes11.jpg

3. sentra se-r vspec brembo fronts
-work well with z32 rear
-bolt right up to front
-sentra rotors redrilled

anyone with different brake setups, post what you got, pics, how it feels. lets try to keep the general chat to a min and post up brake setups!

I just got the STI front brake upgrade from Z1motorsports. The only thing I'm concerned about is what the offset should be for the rims for fitment. Does anyone know what the offset should be?

[xs420240sx]

Kinda old thread, i know, but had anyone successfully mounted a vented rotor on a stock rear caliper with the internal mechanical ebrake? already did the altima rotor upgrade and now im looking to cool the rear down even more while retaining stock ebrake components

[onehundredoctane]

Kinda old thread, i know, but had anyone successfully mounted a vented rotor on a stock rear caliper with the internal mechanical ebrake? already did the altima rotor upgrade and now im looking to cool the rear down even more while retaining stock ebrake components

I'm curious, why are you looking to cool the rear brake? Unless you're drifting you're rear brakes typically less than 30% of the braking force of the car. . . so venting rear rotors isn't going to help much since you're probably not heating them up enough.

In the event you are drifting, have you warped some rotors or something? I haven't heard much about guys running vented rotors on the rear or that there was HUGE advantage to doing so.

[headup240]

This guy on my local forums did CTSV brakes in the front.

https://sphotos-a.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ash3/526407_10200112682194392_340799809_n.jpg

[Future240]

^That looks quite nice.

[crzsteveo]

so ive seen the altima rear setup and j30, but is there any other alternatives for an s13 rear caliper?

something i can run to the junkyard and pick up or a local auto store?

[Turbo Nismo]

Have any one ever installed Evo VIII/VI rear Brembo calipers on an S14? Any link or thread that could help? Thanks.

[xs420240sx]

I'm curious, why are you looking to cool the rear brake? Unless you're drifting you're rear brakes typically less than 30% of the braking force of the car. . . so venting rear rotors isn't going to help much since you're probably not heating them up enough.

In the event you are drifting, have you warped some rotors or something? I haven't heard much about guys running vented rotors on the rear or that there was HUGE advantage to doing so.

will be drifting a lot, using the handbrake alot. my car im not worried about, im stock ka, but my friend will be running an ls1 in his 13 coupe and hes using the same brake setup as me so im wondering if un-vented altima rotors will hold up to a v8. were trying to keep the stock ebrake components to get good lock up for drifting and you can keep it locked as a parking brake whereas you cant really do that with a hydro.

[xs420240sx]

so ive seen the altima rear setup and j30, but is there any other alternatives for an s13 rear caliper?

something i can run to the junkyard and pick up or a local auto store?

either the z32s or q45/j30 with a vented rotor, but youll need to adapt the whole parking brake system to your car. those are the easiest junkyard finds

[xs420240sx]

Have any one ever installed Evo VIII/VI rear Brembo calipers on an S14? Any link or thread that could help? Thanks.
i dont know if evo rear brembos are different from sti rear brembos but here's this from nico: "Sti rear Brembo with EVO rear rotor and it BOLTS RIGHT UP!! it needs a 3mm spacer here for the correct offset, you need to trim/remove the dust cover thats all, the brembo brake line even screws right in!"
http://img79.imageshack.us/img79/5402/picture0193fm.jpg

[Petitt]

I'll play. Q45 brakes front and rear, S13. Brakes are off of a 97 Q45.

This shit is cake. The backs bolt right up. The fronts however need a little work. All you have to do is take a step drill bit and bore out the mounting holes in your spindle.

Here's the rear.
http://i140.photobucket.com/albums/r40/Petitt573/561714_10151238534702163_1516643900_n_zps8ba089d9. jpg (http://s140.photobucket.com/user/Petitt573/media/561714_10151238534702163_1516643900_n_zps8ba089d9. jpg.html)

And here's the front.

http://i140.photobucket.com/albums/r40/Petitt573/2012-08-15122918-1_zps1a65565e.jpg (http://s140.photobucket.com/user/Petitt573/media/2012-08-15122918-1_zps1a65565e.jpg.html)

Here's the difference in bore size. Bigger one on the left.
http://i140.photobucket.com/albums/r40/Petitt573/2012-08-15124350-1_zpsb41bee92.jpg (http://s140.photobucket.com/user/Petitt573/media/2012-08-15124350-1_zpsb41bee92.jpg.html)

All mounted up.
http://i140.photobucket.com/albums/r40/Petitt573/44779_10151338507367163_1336802911_n_zps78f21a75.j pg (http://s140.photobucket.com/user/Petitt573/media/44779_10151338507367163_1336802911_n_zps78f21a75.j pg.html)



Pictures don't really do justice to how big these things really are.

Haven't driven this car yet, but the car I have driven with this setup is awesome. Not as pretty as Z brakes or Brembos, but you can literally walk into a junkyard and get the full setup for less than 100 bucks.

As for master cylinder, I'm using an s14 booster and master combo. I'll upgrade it if need be but I doubt I'll have issues since I'm running the front brakes with the pedal and a hydro to the rear.

Hope this is helpful.

[zerodameaon]

What year Q45 did you use? I have put them on both of my S13s and never had to enlarge bolt holes, direct bolt on. The year info could be helpful for your post.

[Petitt]

What year Q45 did you use? I have put them on both of my S13s and never had to enlarge bolt holes, direct bolt on. The year info could be helpful for your post.

96 I believe

[zerodameaon]

Thats strange 90-96 should be a direct bolt on, only reason I ask is because that is a great write up and if someone came across it they should know its for say 97+ Q45s on a S13 etc.

[Petitt]

It could very well be for a newer set. I actually got the brakes with the car, that's why I'm unsure of the exact year. If you're saying you had to do zero modification to 90-96 brakes, I would go on and recant my statement that these are off of a 96 lol

I'll edit the post.

[90240sx07]

anyone have a good writeup on q45 or gtst brakes? been trying to find a good one but seems like i always find half finished ones or not complete

[zerodameaon]

Its just like a normal caliper change with two extra steps, you have to drill your rotors if you are only 4lug, and you have to cut off or otherwise remove the dust shield.

KA24DEvelopment.com :: 240SX Brake Upgrades (http://www.ka24development.com/brake_upgrades.html)

This one is for a S14 so change accordingly if you have 4lugs and if you don't run into the bolt length issue don't add spacers.
Q45 Brake Swap (S14) : 240SX Technical Forum (http://forums.nicoclub.com/q45-brake-swap-s14-t509723.html)

[Turbo Nismo]

i dont know if evo rear brembos are different from sti rear brembos but here's this from nico: "Sti rear Brembo with EVO rear rotor and it BOLTS RIGHT UP!! it needs a 3mm spacer here for the correct offset, you need to trim/remove the dust cover thats all, the brembo brake line even screws right in!"
http://img79.imageshack.us/img79/5402/picture0193fm.jpg
Thanks for the info. Apparently sti Brembos are different from the evo ones. I still haven't try fitting them on. I hope to work with them on summer.

[Shift n Drift]

any of you guys know of the 2006 M45 rotor with 26mm Z32 front calipers? :hide:

[BraveFart]

I think I have decided to go with the Wilwood forged superlite 4 piston bbk on the front of my ls1 powered s14. Purpose of the car is street use, with a lot of autocross/ track use. Does anyone know what rear brakes would work well with this kit and result in a well balanced setup?

[Sumslapper]

R33 GTS-T Calipers
97-01 Q45 rotors
Circuit sports z32 to s14/s13 conversion lines
Z32 stoptech street pads
All a direct swap, no drama on a s14.

Awesome setup even with the shitty stock bmc.

http://farm9.staticflickr.com/8266/9010056603_48afb12493_c.jpg (http://www.flickr.com/photos/[email protected]/9010056603/)

[cbcm2435]

im surprised no one has mentioned the akebono z32 brakes


Z1 Motorsports 14" Akebono Big Brake Master Set (300zx) (http://www.z1motorsports.com/product_info.php?cPath=6_9&products_id=4625)

it is considered a big brake kit on the 300zx so it should be awesome on our cars.

[Future240]

im surprised no one has mentioned the akebono z32 brakes


Z1 Motorsports 14" Akebono Big Brake Master Set (300zx) (http://www.z1motorsports.com/product_info.php?cPath=6_9&products_id=4625)

it is considered a big brake kit on the 300zx so it should be awesome on our cars.


I forgot about that kit. There was a whole thread on it.
http://zilvia.net/f/chat/471466-s14-akebono-big-brake-kit.html

[Oggy]

Couple questions for you guys. If I wanted to fit better/larger/whatever rotors from a different car, what 'measurments' or specific characteristics do those rotors need to have to properly bolt up to 5 lug 240sx hubs? (Leave the caliper out of the picture for the time being.)

Second, there are plenty of decently priced used brembo BBK's on eBay all the time. Would custom brackets allow these to be mounted to a 240sx, or do they have certain characteristics that would make them never fit?

Some nice ones I have found:
370z Brakes (http://www.ebay.com/itm/2011-Nissan-370z-OEM-Big-Brake-Calipers-/300951842523?pt=Motors_Car_Truck_Parts_Accessories&hash=item461220aedb&vxp=mtr)
Cayenne Brakes (http://www.ebay.com/itm/Porsche-Cayenne-Brembo-Calipers-2005-set-of-Brembo-calipers-/331020662645?pt=Motors_Car_Truck_Parts_Accessories&hash=item4d125e7775&vxp=mtr)
Jaguar R Brakes (http://www.ebay.com/itm/Jaguar-Stype-R-SET-OF-CALIPERS-2003-Brembo-/330844331572?pt=Motors_Car_Truck_Parts_Accessories&hash=item4d07dbde34&vxp=mtr)
Or these beauties if you've got the coin:
AMG Brakes (http://www.ebay.com/itm/Mercedes-S55-Cl55-AMG-Calipers-With-Rotors-Complete-Brakes-/161075774638?pt=Motors_Car_Truck_Parts_Accessories&hash=item2580dd44ae&vxp=mtr)

Obviously this is not something I know very much about, so hopefully someone can give me some insight. Before someone asks why I don't just do a Z32 or STI swap, I'd really like to try something a little more unique.

PS I want the 370z ones bad

EDIT: Another competent I was forgetting, wheels. I'm assuming they are the reason these kind of swaps aren't seen as much. Eventually I would want 17" TE's in the front, so I assume 17" wheels will severely limit brake options.

[onehundredoctane]

Oh, hi :)

https://sphotos-a-iad.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ash4/1827_10151808973930379_1975106759_n.jpg

[blueshark123]

Couple questions for you guys. If I wanted to fit better/larger/whatever rotors from a different car, what 'measurments' or specific characteristics do those rotors need to have to properly bolt up to 5 lug 240sx hubs? (Leave the caliper out of the picture for the time being.)

Second, there are plenty of decently priced used brembo BBK's on eBay all the time. Would custom brackets allow these to be mounted to a 240sx, or do they have certain characteristics that would make them never fit?

Some nice ones I have found:
370z Brakes (http://www.ebay.com/itm/2011-Nissan-370z-OEM-Big-Brake-Calipers-/300951842523?pt=Motors_Car_Truck_Parts_Accessories&hash=item461220aedb&vxp=mtr)
Cayenne Brakes (http://www.ebay.com/itm/Porsche-Cayenne-Brembo-Calipers-2005-set-of-Brembo-calipers-/331020662645?pt=Motors_Car_Truck_Parts_Accessories&hash=item4d125e7775&vxp=mtr)
Jaguar R Brakes (http://www.ebay.com/itm/Jaguar-Stype-R-SET-OF-CALIPERS-2003-Brembo-/330844331572?pt=Motors_Car_Truck_Parts_Accessories&hash=item4d07dbde34&vxp=mtr)
Or these beauties if you've got the coin:
AMG Brakes (http://www.ebay.com/itm/Mercedes-S55-Cl55-AMG-Calipers-With-Rotors-Complete-Brakes-/161075774638?pt=Motors_Car_Truck_Parts_Accessories&hash=item2580dd44ae&vxp=mtr)

Obviously this is not something I know very much about, so hopefully someone can give me some insight. Before someone asks why I don't just do a Z32 or STI swap, I'd really like to try something a little more unique.

PS I want the 370z ones bad

EDIT: Another competent I was forgetting, wheels. I'm assuming they are the reason these kind of swaps aren't seen as much. Eventually I would want 17" TE's in the front, so I assume 17" wheels will severely limit brake options.


needs to just be 5x114.3

[Future240]

I forgot about that kit. There was a whole thread on it.
http://zilvia.net/f/chat/471466-s14-akebono-big-brake-kit.html

I've been searching for more info on this for S14's. anyone find anything? Thinking these with light weight slotted rotors would be killer.

[BoosTTed]

Here's the brake upgrade for the front of my 93 300ZX. SRT8 Brembos with 370Z 14" drilled & slotted front rotors. I'm working on getting the money together to do my rear brake upgrade which consists of running 90 300ZX NA 26mm calipers and 370Z 14" drilled and slotted rear rotors. They will also retain the factory e-brake. Here's some pictures of the fronts.

Factory front brakes
http://i1208.photobucket.com/albums/cc368/TudorDeluxe/20130306_131035_zps7664265b.jpg (http://s1208.photobucket.com/user/TudorDeluxe/media/20130306_131035_zps7664265b.jpg.html)

Comparison between the factory fronts and the SRT8 Brembos
http://i1208.photobucket.com/albums/cc368/TudorDeluxe/20130306_113146_zpsadf7ce6f.jpg (http://s1208.photobucket.com/user/TudorDeluxe/media/20130306_113146_zpsadf7ce6f.jpg.html)

Now the Brembos installed
http://i1208.photobucket.com/albums/cc368/TudorDeluxe/20130306_150309_zps9e2a6042.jpg (http://s1208.photobucket.com/user/TudorDeluxe/media/20130306_150309_zps9e2a6042.jpg.html)

http://i1208.photobucket.com/albums/cc368/TudorDeluxe/20130308_151830_zpsa2f22566.jpg (http://s1208.photobucket.com/user/TudorDeluxe/media/20130308_151830_zpsa2f22566.jpg.html)

[GarageMaks14]

Posted the Grand National caliper last time, finally mounted the Forged Superlite Internal that I'll actually be running :) 1.38" pistons

http://carolinanissans.com/spotlight/wp-content/uploads/2012/04/facebook_1157616124.jpg

Wow when i first saw you pics of your wilwood brakes i thought to myself "willwood brakes are a set up someone who lives in middle of no where america would use like VA or somewhere in the south and not california"

I shit myself laughing when i saw north carolina lol

[onehundredoctane]

Yes. Because Wilwood is only for country bumpkins and California is the capital of the world and every thing is soooo much better there. . ? How's that local government working for ya out there? Sure as hell hope you're not a gun enthusiast living in the most communist state in the U.S., but lets get back on topic

I wonder what you do consider "legit" brakes? Q45? 300zx? Oh yeah, dem oem brake swaps are sooooooo baller (rolls eyes).

Some other country bumpkins that use Wilwoods:

Dai Yoshihara
http://www.motormavens.com/emAlbum/albums/Antonio%20Alvendia/Events/Formula%20Drift/2011%20Rd%201%20Long%20Beach/_fullsize/IMG_9795-Daijiro-Yoshihara-wheel-Wilwood-brakes-discount-tire-copy.jpg

Conrad Grunewald:

http://photos.motoiq.com/MotoIQ/Features/Conrad-Grunewalds-Camaro/JEF8891/1032517099_LR6XT-L.jpg

Fredric Aasbo:
http://cdn.speedhunters.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/04/Papadakis-tC-10.jpg

This 1,000 HP Lexus uses Wilwood brakes on all 4 corners. . .
http://cdn.speedhunters.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/01/4ROTOR_LEXUS_4630.jpg
http://cdn.speedhunters.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/01/4ROTOR_RX7_4176.jpg

C's Garage of Japan:
http://cdn.speedhunters.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/09/CS_GARAGE_S14_3754_800.jpg

Ryan Tuerk's Camaro:
http://cdn.speedhunters.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/07/tuerck06.jpg
http://cdn.speedhunters.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/07/tuerck20.jpg


(Every drift boi's hero) Matt Powers S14:
http://cdn.speedhunters.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/02/LAR_5779.JPG
http://cdn.speedhunters.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/03/build6.jpg



So what exaclty were you trying to say again? Only people from the middle of no where use Wilwoods? Eat a dick.

http://img.pandawhale.com/post-20342-Kari-Byron-dancing-hot-boobs-g-jwfA.gif

[GarageMaks14]

California is the capital of the world and every thing is soooo much better there. . ?

Well we all know that already. We don't have he most non native population in the world cause it's sucks here.


Hey look a bunch of sponsored track cars that got wilwood brakes for free! You are mistaken if you aren't aware the same car built in different parts of the country are gonna come out different and end up with diff parts and looks.

It's usually easy to see how a car i built if it was done in the west coast, Florida or the middle of no where like Connecticut. This is often dictated by ease of availability, price and also other parts awareness which usually isn't as much in say a place like Connecticut.

For example a mainstream wheel like overly small but available rpf01 would be found in bfe while say someone on the west coast would be using a aggressive LMGT4 since it's easier to get for us and something even better.

Obvious the legit brake kits are ones the likes of Brembo, Alcon, AP Racing Endless, Project Mu, and even stop tech.


Nobody runs willwood cause they think it's number one. They do cause the price.

West Coast(real deal wheels and legit aftermarket bbk)
http://memimage.cardomain.com/member_images/8/web/776000-776999/776367_49_full.jpg

East Coast(faking the funk)
http://g35driver.com/forums/attachments/wheels-tires/137832d1305671878-varrstoen-te-reps-22-12-tein-s-techs-g35-coupe-img_4432.jpg

[CaptainVlad]

What our smart friend is trying to say is that when he hard parks, AP racing calipers will look cooler in front of his friends than wilwoods.

(Im about to switch from z32 to wilwood in the front)

[GarageMaks14]

What our smart friend is trying to say is that when he hard parks, AP racing calipers will look cooler in front of his friends than wilwoods.

(Im about to switch from z32 to wilwood in the front)

or a set of r34's brembo's from a proven brand instead of some honkey tonk bfe set of poverty bbks
http://www.nissansilvia.com/forums/uploads/monthly_02_2010/post-62354-1265009044268_thumb.jpg

[onehundredoctane]

What our smart friend is trying to say is that when he hard parks, AP racing calipers will look cooler in front of his friends than wilwoods.

(Im about to switch from z32 to wilwood in the front)

If you need info on my set up, feel free to pm me, I have all the info you need, part numbers, pricing, etc. As far as bang for the buck, you can't beat it.


or a set of r34's brembo's from a proven brand instead of some honkey tonk bfe set of poverty bbks
http://www.nissansilvia.com/forums/uploads/monthly_02_2010/post-62354-1265009044268_thumb.jpg

SMH. "Here are some OEM brakes, they are better than your OEM brakes and painted gold so you know they're better, now take them and replace your OEM brakes with these OEM brakes."

And you're saying sponsored drift teams are all broke and cheap out by getting Wilwood brakes? If they were broke they would just swap OEM brakes like you're claiming is so cool.

I love it man, I love your logic! Keep it up.

[GarageMaks14]

I'm not sure where you get this logic where I prefer OEM brakes over failwood. I prefer real brakes like brembo, project mu, endless over that any day of the week.

What I'm saying is sponsored teams will take any type of free stuff even if they aren't broke. How to you explain teams running wilwood brakes, rota wheels, Varrstoen wheels, Maxis Tires, Megan Racing, Ksport, Mishimoto and so forth.

[CaptainVlad]

If you need info on my set up, feel free to pm me, I have all the info you need, part numbers, pricing, etc. As far as bang for the buck, you can't beat it.
\
Thanks!

I think I am all squared away, though. I'm going to run the bracket to utilize Z33 track rotors, and I think I know what size pistons I need for the calipers, and the part number for the lines.

I will definitely keep you in mind if anything comes up, thanks for that.

As far as this whole calling Wilwoods "crap" thing, I see plenty of people running them that drive their cars hard, and they do just fine. Also, the Wilwoods are pretty cheap as far as calipers go, light, and pads are both cheaper and thicker. That right there did the trick for me...

[onehundredoctane]

How to you explain teams running wilwood brakes, rota wheels, Varrstoen wheels, Maxis Tires, Megan Racing, Ksport, Mishimoto and so forth.

Because stopping is more important than anything else. Duh.

[PeaceOnesxWai]

Brembo, Alcon, AP Racing Endless, Project Mu, and even stop tech.


This just proves how much of a brand whore you are... and that $$ just means the performance of the product

[Te37]

http://i306.photobucket.com/albums/nn257/KILLERSKITTLE/F2B8CE21-0D45-4195-9BEA-64414AE359A4-11664-000009D1D6D1EEE1.jpg (http://s306.photobucket.com/user/KILLERSKITTLE/media/F2B8CE21-0D45-4195-9BEA-64414AE359A4-11664-000009D1D6D1EEE1.jpg.html)

[GarageMaks14]

Because stopping is more important than anything else. Duh.

as u can see by the bs brands listed people will take anything free

[CaptainVlad]

Not to rag on you, but my point exactly. ^^^(TE37s post)

Look at all the cars that run stuff like Wilwoods, and cars such as the one posted above. Chances are those cars that see the road course every weekend with their "redneck" brakes see more brake use in that one day than the ones with the "cool" brakes will see in their whole life.

[billyblaze]

Now back to our regularly scheduled program

I'm looking to get the sti. Brembo for all four corners
I already have the bracket purchase lined up for when
I do
I read the back sti bolts right up
But what rotors and or make would you use?
The same for the front?
I found a few calipers and rotors for all four corners
But the rotors are stock and look like junk so I would
Rather just get the calipers

Sorry if im asking something that has already been answered

Right now for a set of four sti ver7 Brembo calipers $1049 eBay
Thanks in advance
Pms are welcomed

[CaptainVlad]

Why not stay with Z32 in the rear, aren't they VERY similar to the size of the STI calipers? I say that because there is a relatively long thread on this site somewhere documenting putting those exact calipers on the s chassis. From what I remember the guy doing the swap had issues with adapting the sti calipers to the rear. IIRC, some of the stuff wasn't working together very well.

[IceMochaBowl]

i have q45 calipers and rotors up front on my s14 and stock in the back. and i dig em.. definitely added braking power. but its not over the top.. +1 for q45 fronts..

[onehundredoctane]

i have q45 calipers and rotors up front on my s14 and stock in the back. and i dig em.. definitely added braking power. but its not over the top.. +1 for q45 fronts..

That's what I ran for the longest time, Q45 fronts with Hawk HPS pads, Z31 caliper bracket in the rear with 2003 Altima rotors and Hawk pads really balances out that set up.

[SaUcEy]

The hate on Wilwood in here is hilariously ignorant.

Continue.

[Cash]

R33 GTR Brembo front calipers mount directly without the need of a bracket. Used the S13 to Z32 ss conversion lines. I had to cut away the dust shield for the rotor to fit, of course. I'm still using the stock BMC and rear brakes, but plan to upgrade to Z32.

Looked bad when I got them, so I had them powder coated.

http://i30.photobucket.com/albums/c332/chriscash06/CE570EB9-0EA3-4141-970F-B4517DC92964-319-0000001393C581FA_zpsa0e630da.jpg

http://i30.photobucket.com/albums/c332/chriscash06/null_zps8d822362.jpg?t=1376001736

Super easy install
http://i30.photobucket.com/albums/c332/chriscash06/null_zps63e5b833.jpg?t=1382481363

http://i30.photobucket.com/albums/c332/chriscash06/null_zpsd7fe0787.jpg?t=1382481415

[jaxshawn]

What lines are people using for 4 piston ctssv front brembos

[crzsteveo]

^I think I saw somewhere that the z32 lines would work? im currently going through the process of doing that swap with mazworx brackets

[jaxshawn]

That's good to hear, I already have z33 track rotors I'm just trying to get in contact with teg guy from ctsvbrakeswap.com for his brackets now

[Agamemnon]

What lines are people using for 4 piston ctssv front brembos

Use the stock banjo style 240sx lines.

[jaxshawn]

Use the stock banjo style 240sx lines.

Thanks any idea if ctssv calipers with z33 track rotors will clear 17" wheels

[Future240]

R33 GTR Brembo front calipers mount directly without the need of a bracket. Used the S13 to Z32 ss conversion lines. I had to cut away the dust shield for the rotor to fit, of course. I'm still using the stock BMC and rear brakes, but plan to upgrade to Z32.

Looked bad when I got them, so I had them powder coated.

*pics*




Looks good. I didn't know r33 brembos were a direct fit. Might be a cheaper alternative than Evo/Sti. I wonder how those stop compared to Z32 and Evo 9 brembos.

[crzsteveo]

Thanks any idea if ctssv calipers with z33 track rotors will clear 17" wheels

i highly doubt it.

are you using the brackets for the 6 piston calipers 2009+ CTS-v, or the 2004-2007 CTS-V 4 piston calipers?

the 6 piston will not clear 17s.

that's why I am going with the 4 piston caliper setup. cheaper price then a pair of z32 calipers. also larger pad/rotor surface area and overall a great price tag for a brake upgrade.

[jaxshawn]

There are a lot of gM guys using 17" wheels and clearing 13" rotors with a little grinding.

I've got all my parts ordered just gotta pick up pads I'll post up if my wheels fit

[Cash]

Looks good. I didn't know r33 brembos were a direct fit. Might be a cheaper alternative than Evo/Sti. I wonder how those stop compared to Z32 and Evo 9 brembos.

Yeah, I didn't realize either until I got these, but it makes sense if you think about it. I got the front rotors, calipers, and Nismo pads from a guy here in Atlanta for around $650 if I remember correctly. Unfortunately I can't find rear R33 Brembos for sale anywhere, which is why I'll probably just use Z32 rears.

I had Z32 front brakes on my old S14, but I can't really compare the two because I never pushed either of them to the limits. The Z32 brakes have PLENTY of stopping power for these cars. I just got the Brembos because they look cooler.

[chiboy002]

i was always under the impression that r33/34 brembos, and i think r32 brembos, required drilling out the thread on the knuckles

However, a long time ago, I found a japanese company that made adapters, as you can see the brembo's have a sleeve on the ears (where the bolts go through) that you push out and replace with smaller diameter so you can use stock bolts. They were cheap, however I since lost the site.

[Agamemnon]

i was always under the impression that r33/34 brembos, and i think r32 brembos, required drilling out the thread on the knuckles

However, a long time ago, I found a japanese company that made adapters, as you can see the brembo's have a sleeve on the ears (where the bolts go through) that you push out and replace with smaller diameter so you can use stock bolts. They were cheap, however I since lost the site.
Only the R34 require that the knuckle be drilled out to 14mm. R33/32 are bolt on.

[driftslideways]

J30s all day

[onehundredoctane]

The hate on Wilwood in here is hilariously ignorant.

Continue.

Even tho that was years ago, yes, it is ignorant.


To compare, my previous Q45 set up to the current Wilwood set up, isn't not even fair. Oddly, the Q45 set up would lock up the fronts and it was almost unpredictable, now with the Wilwoods I have yet to lock the fronts up no matter how hard I apply the brakes. The front brakes are so much more predictable now, pad wear is very even, where as with the Q45 set up the pads wore unevenly which I guess could be blamed on the calipers?
https://farm8.staticflickr.com/7327/9470880659_b3e3851320_z.jpg (https://flic.kr/p/fqUJRR)

[jaxshawn]

Just FYI finished my CTS v brake swap

Gen 1 CTS-v 4 piston brembos
Stock style brake lines, z32 conversion lines will work to
Z33 track rotors 12.75"
Ctsvbrakeswap.com brakets
And they clear my 17" FNs

[1slowlance]

I've got q45 fronts and kept the stock rears on my s13. Pedal is kinda mushy, so I'm guessing my bmc took a dump on me. Been trying to decide on swapping it with a stock one or I've read some people do z31 turbo bmcs for that swap. But yeah, other than that they work great and I like em. Big upgrade over just stock fronts.

[Y0SH]

I did the altima rear rotors with z31 carrier and stock rear calipers, i didn't do it to improve braking, just did it cause stock rotors look tiny inside 18's...

i had a z31 carrier on a parts car lying around and i needed new rotors anyways... it probably ain't worth it to go out of the way to do it.



...moral of the story, save up for mustang rotors and dual z32 calipers.

what year of mustang rotors work, and is it the front or the rear? My dad just bought a 05-08 GT and it has slotted rotors and I'm pretty sure he's only pulling the drivetrain.

[nujabe]

i run the wilwood kit and i love them..
https://farm9.staticflickr.com/8743/16954587236_73c1e64528_c.jpg (https://flic.kr/p/rQdG6A)Untitled (https://flic.kr/p/rQdG6A) by Aallmighty (https://www.flickr.com/people/[email protected]/), on Flickr

[jaxshawn]

Anyone have info on 1st gen ctsv rear caliper swap

[crzsteveo]

^where are you getting this idea from? haven't heard of it....

im waiting for mazworks to get their brackets back in stock for the fronts...

[jaxshawn]

^where are you getting this idea from? haven't heard of it....

im waiting for mazworks to get their brackets back in stock for the fronts...

i went with ctsvbrakeswap.com brackets an z33 track rotors

looking up rear brembos in my free time working at a parts store noticed the 05-ish CTSV rear brembos are also 4 pistons just smaller, and were a decent price. figured id post up see if anyone did it before

also a full cts V brake set up would win the internet right?

[crzsteveo]

^it would indeed win the internet. maybe a dual caliper bracket with the Vs instead of z32

[NISSeAN]

I too have the Q45/Altima/Z31 setup. It's closer to stock brake bias which distributes braking force more evenly than say Z32 up front AND for the weight of the S13 (can only say for what I own) it's perfect IMO.

[matts13vert]

Anyone have info on 1st gen ctsv rear caliper swap

^where are you getting this idea from? haven't heard of it....

im waiting for mazworks to get their brackets back in stock for the fronts...

^it would indeed win the internet. maybe a dual caliper bracket with the Vs instead of z32


Let me know what you guys think, I sell chromoly front brackets and I am currently working on a modular rear bracket that can run dual Z32 on a Z32 rotor or CTSV 4 piston with a Z32 caliper on a Z34 rotor for a hydraulic ebrake. :naughty:

Here they are on my build!

http://i1033.photobucket.com/albums/a418/StreetFaction/IMG_0111.jpg

http://i1033.photobucket.com/albums/a418/StreetFaction/IMG_0112.jpg

http://i1033.photobucket.com/albums/a418/StreetFaction/IMG_0102.jpg

http://i1033.photobucket.com/albums/a418/StreetFaction/IMG_0117.jpg

[crzsteveo]

^I wanted to order brackets from you, but I want to run the 4 piston 07 CTS-V caliper up front with 17s.

So what V brakes are you using in the rear? 04-07 front V brakes? 04-07 rear V brakes? or the gen two newer V rear brakes? straight bolt on?

[grimm199]

For you Q45 guys out there that are running Hawk HPS pads, where do you order them from?? When I messaged Hawk for the part number, they sent me this;
"I regret to inform you that we do not make the front pad for your vehicle.
I have access to over 15,000 different applications and fitments. Infinity is the only company to use that pad shape and they used it only on the Q45 for 3 years"

[onehundredoctane]

i run the wilwood kit and i love them..
https://farm9.staticflickr.com/8743/16954587236_73c1e64528_c.jpg (https://flic.kr/p/rQdG6A)Untitled (https://flic.kr/p/rQdG6A) by Aallmighty (https://www.flickr.com/people/[email protected]/), on Flickr

I LOVE THAT WHEEL, TIRE, BRAKE combo. . . Dear JESUS.


For you Q45 guys out there that are running Hawk HPS pads, where do you order them from?? When I messaged Hawk for the part number, they sent me this;
"I regret to inform you that we do not make the front pad for your vehicle.
I have access to over 15,000 different applications and fitments. Infinity is the only company to use that pad shape and they used it only on the Q45 for 3 years"

When I had Q45 fronts I ordered my Hawk HPS pads from Rock Auto. Also, my calipers and rotors were from a 2001 Q45 which seems to matter.

[grimm199]

When I had Q45 fronts I ordered my Hawk HPS pads from Rock Auto. Also, my calipers and rotors were from a 2001 Q45 which seems to matter.

Thats what i was afraid of. I'm pretty sure these calipers are off of the first gen Q45. Ive been looking up ways to know for sure what years the calipers are physically, but i guess ill just have to match up the old pads that came with them to know.

[grimm199]

Hated how plain the Q45 calipers looked compared to the Z32 calipers, so I tried this. Supposed to be high temp decals for calipers, and will be throwing clear coat over them as well so we will see if it holds up. Not sure if anyone has thought to do this before or not. Also, still on the search for performance pads for the 1st gen Q45 calipers so I can finish my brakes up.
Guess i'll just be getting the Akebono ProACT pads and see how those do if nothing else.
http://i1122.photobucket.com/albums/l539/grimm199/20150710_212218_zpsmfuyff44.jpg (http://s1122.photobucket.com/user/grimm199/media/20150710_212218_zpsmfuyff44.jpg.html)

[ehhhregartless]

http://farm7.static.flickr.com/6102/6325009228_a24bfbed8f_o.jpg

[crzsteveo]

installed some CTSV calipers with a mazworx bracket...I gotta say I do not like the mazwork bracket because you have to grind so much material down on the backside of the caliper just to get it to sit flush.... they stop super easy, but I have not gotten a brake portioning system yet. I still have not found anything for the rear of a 240 for bolt on brake upgrades besides dual calipers.

[crzsteveo]

http://i436.photobucket.com/albums/qq89/crzsteveo/Mobile%20Uploads/image_zpsddrlm6lr.jpg (http://s436.photobucket.com/user/crzsteveo/media/Mobile%20Uploads/image_zpsddrlm6lr.jpg.html)

[CHiNo4ReaL]

http://i.imgur.com/U88LZhA.jpg
Mazworx brackets, Stoptech Evo 7-9 discs and the Cts-v calipers.

Had to modify the bracket because they are designed for non-ABS hubs and I got ABS..

[billyblaze]

Have the evolution 8/9 on the front

Wanted to do the e55 6 piston from fever but he want
$400 just for the bracket alone

Has anyone done a 6 piston front brake swap at all
If so pm me I'm interested
Want to do the rears
But want the to match what's up front
Cts 4 piston rears sounds like they would
Stop better evo only has 2

Pm perfer

[crzsteveo]

^ 6 piston will require an 18 wheel up front at minuium... Check out street faction for brackets ... As for the rears, I have yet to see something

[billyblaze]

Not sure of the with and offset
But have 18 MB battles with evolution 8/9
On the front now

Thanks going their now

[adey]

Kouki V35/4-door V36 front dual pot calipers (320mm, clears SSR SL disk faces)
https://farm3.staticflickr.com/2885/13582950203_a97fce62e1_b.jpg

...on drilled stock S13 knuckles (12mm --> 14mm a la R34/Z33 Brembo):
https://farm2.staticflickr.com/1489/26025338342_7609c2fd50_b.jpg

Great when you want to run SL disk (deep dish) wheels in front, less great when you're on LMGT4s!

[DRFT180]

Front:
Wilwood Forged Superlites
Stoptech Z33 Track Rotor
Wilwood BP-20 Pads
Stoptech Lines
SPL Parts Cooling Deflectors

Rear:
Z32 Caliper and Rotors
Carbotech 1521 or AX6 Pads
Stoptech Lines

Motul RPF600 Fluid

https://c2.staticflickr.com/6/5618/20656245539_f94ec80153_c.jpg

https://c2.staticflickr.com/2/1451/25519399393_506231bb23_b.jpg

This has turned out to be a great setup for the street and track. Have had zero fade in multiple track days. Wilwoods consumable costs are way better then Brembos. Thicker pads last longer and are cheaper for the same compounds.

Still wanting to put in a Z32 master and B13 booster.

[fatduece]

^Looks very nice. Did you paint the wilwoods or that's factory paint? Any reason why you didn't go with the 2 piece rotors?

[turboshoebox]

Kouki V35/4-door V36 front dual pot calipers (320mm, clears SSR SL disk faces)
https://farm3.staticflickr.com/2885/13582950203_a97fce62e1_b.jpg

...on drilled stock S13 knuckles (12mm --> 14mm a la R34/Z33 Brembo):
https://farm2.staticflickr.com/1489/26025338342_7609c2fd50_b.jpg

Great when you want to run SL disk (deep dish) wheels in front, less great when you're on LMGT4s!
u need R35 bbk
https://scontent-sea1-1.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-xft1/v/t1.0-9/12920385_10154705193038275_4115941598541821400_n.j pg?oh=5b750ea054da1e606f823df7113a1b11&oe=5786CD41

[Lees_Garage]

https://c2.staticflickr.com/2/1451/25519399393_506231bb23_b.jpg



Killer setup!


What rear pads are you running? Did you run this setup before you installed the SPL brake cooling duct? If so, did you see a difference in fade, etc?

[Hoffman5982]

Nothing impressive, but they're as big as I can go with 15s, and would have just barely scraped if I didn't have a 5mm spacer.

Q45 front brakes. Rebuilt/cleaned/painted, Axxis Metal Master pads, Brembo rotors from a 94 Altima (4 lug), and Agency Power SS lines. The increase in stopping power is very noticeable.

http://i68.photobucket.com/albums/i40/hoffman91/Mobile%20Uploads/20160311_122905_zpsohuqcisq.jpg

[corkscrew]

Which year q45? ^

[Hoffman5982]

I believe these came off a 96

[crzsteveo]

I hoping to finish Up my rear upgrade to compliment my ctsv brakes up front. Going with gktech rear dual caliper set and running wilwood calipers and stock ones for ebrake. Only rear setup I've found that will work for what I want.

Does anyone have recommendations on a proportioning valve??

[DRFT180]

^Looks very nice. Did you paint the wilwoods or that's factory paint? Any reason why you didn't go with the 2 piece rotors?

I had the Wilwoods and the Z calipers powdercoated that color.

What they originally looked like

https://c2.staticflickr.com/4/3709/20276904952_347e3810e5_z.jpg

I didn't go with a 2-piece rotor mostly due to budget, and could always upgrade later.


Killer setup!


What rear pads are you running? Did you run this setup before you installed the SPL brake cooling duct? If so, did you see a difference in fade, etc?

Updated my original post. I run Carbotech's 1521 or AX6 pads in the rear.

The brake cooling ducts have always been on the car since before doing lapping days, so I don't have a before or after comparison.

[adey]

u need R35 bbk
https://scontent-sea1-1.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-xft1/v/t1.0-9/12920385_10154705193038275_4115941598541821400_n.j pg?oh=5b750ea054da1e606f823df7113a1b11&oe=5786CD41
That looks SICK, but...

I wanted to keep:
1) costs down (this cost me 300 incl rotors and pads at my local junkyard)
2) # of caliper pistons/pots to a minimum -- I'm on the original 15/16 bmc and the pedal feel is still very good! and
3) wheel clearance at a maximum -- so I can run super deep dish fronts! (or at least maintain decent lip, especially now that I went and got S14 flcas and GP sports knuckles...)

[Lees_Garage]

Updated my original post. I run Carbotech's 1521 or AX6 pads in the rear.

The brake cooling ducts have always been on the car since before doing lapping days, so I don't have a before or after comparison.


Thanks! I have the SPL tension rods, and am trying to decide whether I should run their cooling ducts, or fabricate my own flex tubing ducts.

[TheRealSy90]

Need some info on brake replacement parts. I have Jdm Kouki 180sx/rps13 front calipers and rotors on my 89 coupe.
I cannot figure out what pads and rotors to order to refurbish this setup. The jdm Kouki 180sx brakes are slightly larger diameter than the usdm s13 brakes.
Possibly the spec v Sentra rotors/pads? Maxima? I cannot find the specification for the 180sx brake size online...

[adey]

Need some info on brake replacement parts. I have Jdm Kouki 180sx/rps13 front calipers and rotors on my 89 coupe.
I cannot figure out what pads and rotors to order to refurbish this setup. The jdm Kouki 180sx brakes are slightly larger diameter than the usdm s13 brakes.
Possibly the spec v Sentra rotors/pads? Maxima? I cannot find the specification for the 180sx brake size online...

IIRC it's 280mm (diameter) x 22mm (thickness) with single pot calipers. You can measure it...
Pad details (from dixcel website):
http://www.dixcel.co.jp/list/144dpi/321310.jpg
(link: http://dixcel.co.jp/sx/e36.php?enode=039211310031311311130110393111101310 00-311901119-9190-131000110-&ts=sports&qry=NISSAN+180SX+#n3037)

[Lees_Garage]

Jdm Kouki 180sx/rps13 front calipers and rotors on my 89 coupe.



Check out winmax. Just call and ask, they'll have the info you need.

http://store.winmaxusa.com/winmax-w2-performance-brake-pads.html?car_make=32

I'm running W2's, and have several friends running the W3's, they are great pads.

[TheRealSy90]

IIRC it's 280mm (diameter) x 22mm (thickness) with single pot calipers. You can measure it...
Pad details (from dixcel website):
(link: http://dixcel.co.jp/sx/e36.php?enode=039211310031311311130110393111101310 00-311901119-9190-131000110-&ts=sports&qry=NISSAN+180SX+#n3037)

Check out winmax. Just call and ask, they'll have the info you need.

http://store.winmaxusa.com/winmax-w2-performance-brake-pads.html?car_make=32

I'm running W2's, and have several friends running the W3's, they are great pads.

Thanks for the info guys.

[fatduece]

I had the Wilwoods and the Z calipers powdercoated that color.
Updated my original post. I run Carbotech's 1521 or AX6 pads in the rear.

The brake cooling ducts have always been on the car since before doing lapping days, so I don't have a before or after comparison.

Is that a special powder for high temp brakes? (If there is such a thing) How many track sessions have you put on them, any fade in color?

[Mike s14]

I have z33 track calipers and rotors in the front and in the back. I needed to change one of the "ears" on the knuckles to make the calipers fit. I'm using steel aftermarket knuckles, so it wasn't a big problem. Grind it off and weld it back. Was going with a z32 handbrake setup, but couldn't get it to work. Right side didn't lock up. Probably because of the aftermarktet knuckles. Think i needed to change one of the r33 handbrake cables to a s13 one (which are normally to short if i'm not mistaken). But i just gone with a hydraulic handbrake. BMC is a z32 non abs bm57. Balance if pretty off, rear needs more force. Rear end is just to loose when braking hard. Dancing all over the place when braking hard. As you can see in the picture, the rear caliper is sitting pretty low:

http://i650.photobucket.com/albums/uu225/De-chick/time-attack-assen-56.jpg (http://s650.photobucket.com/user/De-chick/media/time-attack-assen-56.jpg.html)

[turboshoebox]

UGh are you serious? what is all that sticker bomb bull shit you have on ur rear guards

[kashira kureijii]

UGh are you serious? what is all that sticker bomb bull shit you have on ur rear guards



God you're such a little bitch , he needs them Bride calipers

[spooled240]

I have z33 track calipers and rotors in the front and in the back. I needed to change one of the "ears" on the knuckles to make the calipers fit. I'm using steel aftermarket knuckles, so it wasn't a big problem. Grind it off and weld it back. Was going with a z32 handbrake setup, but couldn't get it to work. Right side didn't lock up. Probably because of the aftermarktet knuckles. Think i needed to change one of the r33 handbrake cables to a s13 one (which are normally to short if i'm not mistaken). But i just gone with a hydraulic handbrake. BMC is a z32 non abs bm57. Balance if pretty off, rear needs more force. Rear end is just to loose when braking hard. Dancing all over the place when braking hard. As you can see in the picture, the rear caliper is sitting pretty low:

http://i650.photobucket.com/albums/uu225/De-chick/time-attack-assen-56.jpg (http://s650.photobucket.com/user/De-chick/media/time-attack-assen-56.jpg.html)
Not sure whats up with your hydro, but it sounds like your z32 ebrakes werent adjusted correctly(at the drums, not the handle). All you need is a flathead to adjust the shoes wider to the point where the rotors fit snug, but still spin.

[Mike s14]

Believe me, i've tried and i tried and i tried, haha. That's why i said that you'll need a shorter handbrake cable that goes to the left rear.

Photo is from a few years ago. All the stickers are gone.

[spooled240]

My ebrakes work fine with the r33 cables on my s14. I believe one side is longer than the other so maybe you had them flipped? I dunno, something doesnt sound right with your setup..

[DRFT180]

Is that a special powder for high temp brakes? (If there is such a thing) How many track sessions have you put on them, any fade in color?


There might be but this isn't any sort of special powder.

I've done two lapping days and competed in Global Time Attack, I also daily drive the car. No signs of fading or fatigue.

[BananaBandolero]

I picked up some Z32 NA hub & ebrake assemblies in an effort to build up parts for the full Z32 swap onto my S14... what should I look for on the brake/hub to convince myself they're in good shape?

Visually they're pretty clean, much less surface rust than I usually see on the pics in swaps. Spins smoothly enough by hand, takes maybe as much force as turning a door handle. Anything else I should look for? Seems like the main test is wheel-wiggling once it's all mounted up, but I wanted to check what I could before going that far.

[BoostyMcZface]

I'm trying to do 370 akebonos front and rear. I gotta figure out my ebrake setup. Anyone running that setup?

[Ramonesfreak2010]

^You use a Z32 ebrake setup. I plan on running these as well.

[CrimsonRockett]

Z32 rears with modified (or trimmed) dust plates.

Had a set on an S14. They're massive.

Would have kept them, but they really limited my wheel options. Pretty much mandatory to run 18's up front.

http://i266.photobucket.com/albums/ii246/CrimsonRockett/Mobile%20Uploads/IMG_3575.jpg

17x9 +0 TE's.

[BoostyMcZface]

Niceeeee. Yeah I run Z1 two piece rotors on my z34 and love them. Plus I'd like to keep the brake feel the same on both cars. I'm assuming I can use the z32 ebrake setup with the Z34 rear caliper.. then I can use the two piece front and rear. :D

[spooled240]

I'm trying to do 370 akebonos front and rear. I gotta figure out my ebrake setup. Anyone running that setup?

^You use a Z32 ebrake setup. I plan on running these as well.

Correct me if I'm wrong, but I thought the 370z ebrakes larger than the z32? I looked at a 370z FSM to verify this but couldn't find any specs on it.

..unless you're talking about running some kind of custom two piece rear rotor?

[Wykydtron]

No one's tried to swap STi Brembro's onto the S13 knuckles? I'm wondering what kind of bracket needs to be made to do this.

[BoostyMcZface]

I could email Jon at Z1 and ask him or measure the inside of my 370z rear rotor and compare. I'd hope they're the same. Otherwise I don't think it'd be hard to find a set off a 370 since there's probably not much of a market for them so junkyard find should be easy

[ehhhregartless]

https://scontent-iad3-1.xx.fbcdn.net/t31.0-8/fr/cp0/e15/q65/903544_584834434868671_1433933036_o.jpg?efg=eyJpIj oidCJ9

[dreaMervaj]

I didn't want to make a new thread so I thought I would ask here.

Is it mandatory to run 18's if Evo X calipers are installed in the front? Or would 17's clear and be dependent of the design of the wheel/rims?

I recall my Work Equips barely clearing Z32 calipers on my first Kouki.......

[DrftKingIII]

I didn't want to make a new thread so I thought I would ask here.

Is it mandatory to run 18's if Evo X calipers are installed in the front? Or would 17's clear and be dependent of the design of the wheel/rims?

I recall my Work Equips barely clearing Z32 calipers on my first Kouki.......
If I recall correctly, 17's are possible but with very tight clearances.

[dreaMervaj]

If I recall correctly, 17's are possible but with very tight clearances.

I may just go with the Z32's since I know they clear; barely cleared my Work Equips though so I'm almost positive I would not clear the Evo's since they look a lot thicker....

Anyone want a set of Evo X calipers? LOL.

[Pblesh85]

I didn't want to make a new thread so I thought I would ask here.

Is it mandatory to run 18's if Evo X calipers are installed in the front? Or would 17's clear and be dependent of the design of the wheel/rims?

I recall my Work Equips barely clearing Z32 calipers on my first Kouki.......

I know first hand the answer to this.

http://i105.photobucket.com/albums/m205/Pblesh85/IMG_2642.jpg (http://s105.photobucket.com/user/Pblesh85/media/IMG_2642.jpg.html)

Evo x front with oem 350mm rotor

http://i105.photobucket.com/albums/m205/Pblesh85/IMG_0868.jpg (http://s105.photobucket.com/user/Pblesh85/media/IMG_0868.jpg.html)

Sti rear with z32 rotor and z32 drum ebrake


So to answer the question simply, yes 17's fit over Evo x fronts. BUT ONLY CERTIAN WHEELS...

ALOT has to do with the shape of the barrel not so much offset(I'm not going to dive into that because a lot changes as the width/offset changes). So the main focus is shape of barrel and spoke design.

Wheels THAT CLEAR

te37 no spacer needed
Advan rg2 no spacer needed
Rays ms01 25mm spacer needed and some grinding of the caliper is required(very small amount)
Panasport c5c2 22-25mm spacer

I'm sure there are others out there but this is a list of what I know works.

Now a list of what DOES NOT CLEAR

Work vs-xx
Regamasters
Volk cen28
Prodrive gc 06
Sprint heart cp035(close but no luck)
Rpf1's

Again there are a lot more, but I only have so many sets to try.

Wheels THAT MAY CLEAR

Rays lmgt4
Volk se37
Meisters s1
Professor's

I hope this answers a few questions. I am not going to post any other pics as I am not going to spoil my build thread that's soon to be posted.

[dreaMervaj]

^^ Thanks for the detailed response!

Z32 it is... thought I'm quite sad.

[crzsteveo]

^ naw screw the z32!! Go big or go home! CTSV brakes clear works cr kai17x9+17 easily. It's all the two/3 piece wheels you will have to worry about clearing.

[turboshoebox]

Guy in kangaroo land is selling these for 2600 USD!!! must have (for R chasis but fits s)

https://scontent-sjc2-1.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/13925061_10154505862740676_3027798518031986576_n.j pg?oh=a6bd4c2953820db99024cab1ea245058&oe=58187BBF

[kashira kureijii]

Guy in kangaroo land is selling these for 2600 USD!!! must have (for R chasis but fits s)

https://scontent-sjc2-1.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/13925061_10154505862740676_3027798518031986576_n.j pg?oh=a6bd4c2953820db99024cab1ea245058&oe=58187BBF



But will they stop as well as greddy or hks brakes?

These brakes are made by some lombard hillbillies in some Italian backwater, they are far inferior to their jdm counterparts.

[crzsteveo]

There also just brembos check Amazon. You can get brand new ones for 140-400. Ctsv 4 pot 140, 6 pot like 250 each

[dudermagee]

There also just brembos check Amazon. You can get brand new ones for 140-400. Ctsv 4 pot 140, 6 pot like 250 each

That's what I did.:naughty:

Guess I'll be getting some works Cr kai too

[Xaser]

Front:
Wilwood Forged Superlites 6Pot a little more piston area than R34GTR.
Willwood Floating Rotor 12.76" with ARP bolt and 304 Wire.
Wilwood BP-20 Pads
Willwood Lines


Rear:
Z32 Caliper full RB
Willwod Slotted Disc
EBC red Stuff Pads
Custom Stainless Lines


I put the Z32 or 1 11/16 Brake pump, and i dont know yet if the oem booster go fine with this setup, the Z32 dosnt fit for the turbo.

http://image.prntscr.com/image/1b5fc4b96fb5494c8d40060e52f13994.png

http://image.prntscr.com/image/1064f9fc6e714788b4d76bd21a8bc888.png

[ehhhregartless]

https://scontent-iad3-1.xx.fbcdn.net/v/l/t1.0-9/fr/cp0/e15/q65/5354_621015211246698_1248430169_n.jpg?efg=eyJpIjoi dCJ9&oh=94c18ecc059d7bf7f47bbc8c4e0fe0f9&oe=585A7168

[ehhhregartless]

http://i1260.photobucket.com/albums/ii568/KLRS14/CF601591-3311-48E5-B4E2-7CB024EFA120_zpsnrgiezwr.jpg

[ehhhregartless]

https://scontent-lga3-1.xx.fbcdn.net/t31.0-8/fr/cp0/e15/q65/288213_416365868401453_2042880063_o.jpg?efg=eyJpIj oidCJ9

[Ramonesfreak2010]

Who made those Greddy calipers after they stopped using Alcon?

[Pniles856]

Have any one ever installed Evo VIII/VI rear Brembo calipers on an S14? Any link or thread that could help? Thanks.



I'm trying to get in contact with street faction
They have a rear dual caliper set up it's a cts-v rear caliper and a 300zx rear caliper and i can't find anyone on here that has done the swap but I'm going to call them tommorow to see if they can make me a bracket .http://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20161107/86e5e33c1fe79bcf89b67bcab96eb1cd.jpg
http://streetfaction.myshopify.com/products/cts-v-conversion-brackets?variant=12146287809


Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

[Moore]

Front:
Wilwood Forged Superlites 6Pot a little more piston area than R34GTR.
Willwood Floating Rotor 12.76" with ARP bolt and 304 Wire.
Wilwood BP-20 Pads
Willwood Lines


Rear:
Z32 Caliper full RB
Willwod Slotted Disc
EBC red Stuff Pads
Custom Stainless Lines



Older post but hoping someone has feed back on the 6 piston wilwoods.

Have you had this set up out on a track yet? or anyone else with the 6 piston set up. I am worried the balance would be off a fair bit with only stock z32 rears. what would be a good rear caliper to match?

Also where did you purchase the calipers from. Only place I have found them:

http://www.fastbrakes.com/product_p/wilwood%20240sx%2013-6.htm
Thanks

[HayabusaKLR]

Hey everyone,


I have searched high and low without a specific answer to my question. Are any of you running the Evo IX front calipers with aftermarket wheels? If so, what offset are you running to appropriately fit this MONSTER caliper?

I am ordering WORK Meister S1 3P's (18x9 and 18x10) but I want to make sure the offset is appropriate to fit the Evo IX front calipers that I have already.

I have seen someone running Evo X fronts with +12 in the front but wanted more input, if it is out there!

Thanks in advance guys!

[CrimsonRockett]

It's not so much on the offset.

If you're ordering new wheels, you can order them by disk type.

O disk - maximum lip on dish wheels, or most concave.
A disk - standard face
R disk - best for big brake clearance.

http://www.nsxprime.com/photopost/data/1265/medium/DiskType.jpg

[HayabusaKLR]

I really appreciate the response. Ehh, that's what I was afraid of. I'm ordering them through Ravspec and this is similar to what they told me. At this point, if I went with a front R disk, there would literally be next to NO lip which is going to likely look silly...especially on a step-lip design like the S1 3P's. Yikes...wondering if I should just sell the Evo IX front calipers and go with a different front brake setup to have a decent front lip on the S1's. Any thoughts?

[Juucso]

Sorry to bump, but I have few questions to you who are running GKtech front knuckles.

I've been looking into Z32 brakes, but CTSV brakes could be a good option too. I've heard that the CTSV + GKtech knuckles are a pain in the ass to install. What brakes have you used with the Gk knuckles and if they're not direct bolt-on, what were the modifications needed to do?

[95SilviaKs]

Hey everyone. I don't have any pictures readily available with me, but if someone has questions feel free to send em. I have a 95 S14 and I put R34 GT-T (turbo R34) front and rear brakes on my car. Cheers. :2f2f:

[afishysilvia]

Sorry to bump, but I have few questions to you who are running GKtech front knuckles.

I've been looking into Z32 brakes, but CTSV brakes could be a good option too. I've heard that the CTSV + GKtech knuckles are a pain in the ass to install. What brakes have you used with the Gk knuckles and if they're not direct bolt-on, what were the modifications needed to do?

Running Z32 on my GKTech V2’s, one thing I did notice is having to put a thick washer on the oem bolt/lock washer combination otherwise the bolts would hit the rotor.

[Juucso]

Running Z32 on my GKTech V2’s, one thing I did notice is having to put a thick washer on the oem bolt/lock washer combination otherwise the bolts would hit the rotor.

Oh that's weird since they should be a direct fit. Maybe I'll just order the CTSV shit and try it out..

[dizzariot]

Anyone have a Z32 Master they don't need? I swapped to S14 K's brakes in the front (Z32 in US) and the pedal is way too soft for my liking.

[DRFT180]

My next brake setup. Stoptechs Z32 kit for the fronts. 332mm 2 piece rotors. Haven't decided if I want to pick up the rear kit yet.

Currently running OEM Z32 rears. https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20190317/af0609d816049cc725f1647d0b5ac663.jpg

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[adey]

Anyone know what size bolts the R33 and R34 GTR rear brembo calipers use?

IIRC the R32 and R33 FRONT brembos are both 12mm, and the R34, Z33, and Z34 FRONT Brembos are 14mm.
But what about the rears??

Thanks!!

[88Coupe]

Anyone with the CTSV rears? I'm trying see if there is a way to keep the z32 drum ebrake.

[Tearlessj]

Anyone with the CTSV rears? I'm trying see if there is a way to keep the z32 drum ebrake.

While I can't answer your question. LOJ Conversions Corp installed a cts-v rear caliper on a 300zx and they did not like it. It required a lot of machining and the Nissan rear rotors are much thinner than the CTS-V rotors. I pulled up some specs because I was curious.

300ZX - .710"
370Z - .790"
CTS-V - 1.10"

Here's what they had to say about it on Facebook:

So, #paddlez32 arrived with some CTSV brakes installed on the front, and some partially installed V brakes on the rear. We were asked to ?figure out? the fitment issues on the rear and make them work. If I?m being brutally honest, I?m not a fan of this setup, but we made it work. The calipers arrived machined, but they needed to be milled further. That still wasn?t enough to get full pad contact with the rotor or get the caliper on far enough to fit the wheels. Next step was to drill and tap the spindle to allow the adapter bracket to be bolted on without a through bolt, to stop the nut from interfering with the brake pad. We then needed to grind the spindle further to get the caliper in towards the hub as far as possible. We now get almost 100% pad contact and the wheel fits. However, this kit uses 370Z rotors, which are much thinner than the V rotors. This will REQUIRE close monitoring of pad life, as a fully worn pad will allow the pistons to pop out of the caliper completely resulting in total brake failure.

[91GTo]

Old Thread but I'm currently working on a full Evo 8 brembo swap. Front and Rear. Front fairly simple. Caliper bracket, Evo 10 Rotors. Using Evo 8 Calipers in the rear as well. All bolt on. I'm using the Alpha Omega bracket with z32 e brake set up and 370z rear rotors.

[SupaDoopa]

Anyone completely gut their own brake lines and make all new/custom setups? I got a roll of that nickle copper stuff and planning to re-do the whole chassis with new lines and p-clamps. Is this going to be a massive shit storm or easier than I'm anticipating? The only concern I have is that little soft-tube portion that's bolted to the inside of the wheel well. I'm wondering if just eliminating that, putting in a new block that can be bolted down, and then just screwing in the stainless line to that is sufficient.