show me your hydro ebrake set up ^_^

[domocress]

i was wondering how you set up your hydraulic ebrake?did you use a proportioning valve.. is there such thing as a one way check valve? i want to prevent from welding on another caliper. thanks for your help and if possible can i see pics of what you did

[mattack69]

You don't have to weld... There is a gentleman / scholar whom is selling a dual caliper plate just for a hydro setup. Search around a little more...

[jefferz]

people just run them in line. no need to run dcs

[beater_s14]

I made mine with just some flat pieces of steel welded together around a Civic clutch master cylinder, just had to get creative with it for fitment and it to not be in the way cause its on my daily driver ...

http://i314.photobucket.com/albums/ll421/qr25_nissan_ser/hydraulic%20hand%20brake/IMG00914-20110824-1828.jpg
http://i314.photobucket.com/albums/ll421/qr25_nissan_ser/IMG00955-20110907-0225-2.jpg

[90240sx07]

good job on the diy ebrake how much did that cost u

[onehundredoctane]

I would rather see a thread labeled "Show me your naked girlfriend, fiance, wife, or fuck buddy"


All these "show me your bullshit" threads are getting old and cluttering up the forum. "Show me your S13 AERO" PLZ, you've never seen an S13 with aero before?



Mods' need to start bashing heads.

[ZilviaKid]

I would rather see a thread labeled "Show me your naked girlfriend, fiance, wife, or fuck buddy riding a hydro ebrake"


fixed that for ya

[domocress]

thanks very helpful

[beater_s14]

I'ma say like $7.50... I think thats what the junk yards charged me for clutch master cylinder lol ... everything else I had in my garage, the handle is I think a 15/16 off brand wrench cause it was the only thing I could find that was long and hard enough :jerkit: haha and the grip was some pry bar handle
I'm a major supporter of DIY and making things before buying someone elses idea

[BKangS14]

I think this what you might be looking for, PM that guy with the questions
FS: Dual Caliper Brackets - AZ240SX.org Forums (http://az240sx.org/forums/index.php?showtopic=52706)

[AdrenalineS14]

I would rather see a thread labeled "Show me your naked girlfriend, fiance, wife, or fuck buddy"


All these "show me your bullshit" threads are getting old and cluttering up the forum. "Show me your S13 AERO" PLZ, you've never seen an S13 with aero before?



Mods' need to start bashing heads.

LOL, the FUCK did you click on this thread then!?!?!? bottom line is there's always going to be "Show me your bullshit" or "Show in tell" threads. There's no changing that you don't like it then GTFO and don't click on threads like that! SIMPLE DONE EASY! Go find a thread you fucking like, better yet go fap off to porn if "you rather see a thread"... "getting old and cluttering up the forum" pffff its people like you that are getting old and cluttering up BS comments like yours that don't help a damn keep that BS to yourself and suck it up! btw DONT expect a reply from me if your gonna try and and talk shit back or defend your "waste of time" comment smartass!

[nate00]

^^you mad bro?

[slydin240sx]

^^you mad bro?

Well aren't you as lame as they come!
Hop in the thread just to open your cocksucker.

:picardfp:

[90240sx07]

I'ma say like $7.50... I think thats what the junk yards charged me for clutch master cylinder lol ... everything else I had in my garage, the handle is I think a 15/16 off brand wrench cause it was the only thing I could find that was long and hard enough :jerkit: haha and the grip was some pry bar handle
I'm a major supporter of DIY and making things before buying someone elses idea

got any pics of how u hooked the lines up off the master cylinder

[driftiteasy0313]

sick man how does that hydro brake feel with the civic cyl?does it lock up pretty nicely?looks like a good alternative.

[kennedy8383]

Nice Stick.. LOL

[kunt_masha]

ASD handbrake + dual wilwood calipers

simple, effective, and far too expensive



http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v637/btracer02/IMG_0386.jpg

[bataangpinoy]

this was in my old e30. probably the same kit as above, only know one company who made the brackets.

e30 hydro ebrake.AVI - YouTube (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W91yXrIuUKA&context=C4dc9e8dADvjVQa1PpcFP4HZZuY8MNRUemakDUdfe_ zBdyqHxd9V8=)

http://i702.photobucket.com/albums/ww21/bataangpinoy/ebrakekit.jpg

http://i702.photobucket.com/albums/ww21/bataangpinoy/DSCN0276-1.jpg

[h2v7]

that wilwood setup looks dope

[bataangpinoy]

it could stop the car by itself, in rather quick fashion too

[Black240Ct]

There is a thread on this in the tech section I believe

[sr20det_03]

Why can't you just hook a master cylinder to the factory e brake handle (take the locking pieces out of the e brake) and run the lines to the factory calipers?

[fcnoevil]

So when you do that what do you use for rear brakes?? lol

[drpsnwbrdr]

I would rather see a thread labeled "Show me your naked girlfriend, fiance, wife, or fuck buddy"


All these "show me your bullshit" threads are getting old and cluttering up the forum. "Show me your S13 AERO" PLZ, you've never seen an S13 with aero before?



Mods' need to start bashing heads.

Been wanting to read a thread like this for a while now, I'm a subie guy but I thought I'd more likely see this type of thread in a nissan/drifting forum, first one I see and I see this kind of comment? LAME


Mods' need to start bashing TROLLS and tailgaters.

[stephens14sr]

PBM kit. Love it.
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v28/cirkumstance/435187db87dc916d361091a519eace19.jpg

[onehundredoctane]

http://sphotos-a.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-snc7/c109.0.403.403/p403x403/483377_10151922633720066_20502572_n.jpg

[speedracer5]

http://sphotos-a.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-snc7/c109.0.403.403/p403x403/483377_10151922633720066_20502572_n.jpg

hhaahah wtf

[Firestorm999]

http://img580.imageshack.us/img580/5356/0952f.jpg

stock location ftw

[JFoxx]

Has anyone used the dual cylinder handbrake setup yet? I would like to get some feedback from them....

[Snogibson]

these guys are making mine will post pics asap

Levelride Concepts - Products (http://www.levelrideconcepts.com/Products.html)

[EvoVIII808]

Here is Mine. Waiting on fitting to arrive.
K-Sport with Wilwood 0.75 (In line)

http://sphotos-a.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ash3/s720x720/538368_10151009348761216_415710440_n.jpg

[ARPTUNNER67]

this setup is perfect for anyone who dont want to upgrade to z32 brakes just yet, really clean too!

[EvoVIII808]

My Ksport came with the crappy master cyl, so i upgraded to the wilwood .75 (3/4 bore) 1 problem I ran into with the Ksport and wilwood is the threads on the adjustment/locker (Ksport) do not match the 5/16-24 threads on the Wilwood (#260-6089)
So you have to either bore it out slightly and re-thread it, or make a new one.

http://www.wilwood.com/Images/MasterCylinders/Master%20Cylinder%20Photos-Large/260-6089-lg.jpg
http://www.wilwood.com/Images/MasterCylinders/Master%20Cylinder_Drawings-Large/260-6089_dwg-lg.jpg

[EvoVIII808]

*Update* When upgrading to the .75 (3/5 bore) Inline setup. You WILL need a longer handle to operate it. I bent the Ksport handle.

[HIGHFIVEBETA]

Ahem* sorry had something stuck in my throat......

[stephens14sr]

how do people like the asd

[OgSilviaSkywalker]

so my friends got a hydro ebrake that isn't locking up. pbm hydro ebrake with a chase bay proportion valve. bled the system couple of times got it to lock up one wheel at one point but bled it again and nothing. we also tried adjusting both the ebrake and the proportioning valve. cant figure it out. lever is also really stiff.

thanks in advance for your input guys

[EvoVIII808]

You may need a longer handle.

[Chase Bays]

so my friends got a hydro ebrake that isn't locking up. pbm hydro ebrake with a chase bay proportion valve. bled the system couple of times got it to lock up one wheel at one point but bled it again and nothing. we also tried adjusting both the ebrake and the proportioning valve. cant figure it out. lever is also really stiff.

thanks in advance for your input guys


Shoot me some pics of your setup with this!! May be able to help you out a bit. We just did something similar but it went off without a single problem.

[email protected]

Thanks

[TTnickdizzle]

^ how long of a handle did you need to make it work?

[Chase Bays]

^ how long of a handle did you need to make it work?

We used a CNC 402A in an S13 chassis and it worked perfect with OEM Master.

[pattrick02]

some pretty nice set-ups.

[TTnickdizzle]

We used a CNC 402A in an S13 chassis and it worked perfect with OEM Master.

that handle looks relatively short, i Like it... what pads r u running on it? And how much effort do you need to get the rear to lock up? Easier than the stock set up?

[Chase Bays]

On the 402A the handle really isn't very short at all. Running hawk HP's iirc. Does not require much effort at all to lock up the rear. By far much nicer then stock and much easier.

We are actually about to release the kit as a bolt in for the S chassis with lines and hand brake. Should be pretty soon!!

[240dream]

who has a good write up on their ebrake install with fitting sizes,what they used/where they spliced into the rear brakes

[stephens14sr]

who has a good write up on their ebrake install with fitting sizes,what they used/where they spliced into the rear brakes

PBM has directions on their site. Used it for mine, never had an issue. Works great everytime. (Will wood flow through type MC)

[EvoVIII808]

i did mine with hardlines from napa.
2x M10 1.0 adaptors
1x 72" 3/16 hardline
1x 51" 3/16 hardline
7/16 -20 thread Big fitting for wilwood
3/8 -24 for the small fitting.

1 adaptor come from the rear brake port into driver side, then connects to 72" line (Way longer then needed) Run across the firewall, down the trans tunnel, and loops back into the rear port on Wilwood.

51" hardline runs down the passenger side trans tunnel, across firewall to passenger side, connects into the 2nd M10 adaptor, Adaptor connected to the stock connector in the engine bay on passenger side.

[kunt_masha]

heres the setup I had in my daily... CNC hydro

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v637/btracer02/Z_3-1.jpg

[240dream]

PBM has directions on their site. Used it for mine, never had an issue. Works great everytime. (Will wood flow through type MC)

i think i might get the pbm unit, do you like it?

for install you remove the line off the booster for the rear brakes and attach lines into port the line was removed from. then the rear line you disconnected fromm booster gets run into hydro outlet? is this correect,thats how i interpreted there directions

[Supergoji]

nope its for turbo boost

[stephens14sr]

i think i might get the pbm unit, do you like it?

for install you remove the line off the booster for the rear brakes and attach lines into port the line was removed from. then the rear line you disconnected fromm booster gets run into hydro outlet? is this correect,thats how i interpreted there directions

Basically. I love it, feels great and works great. When I bought mine they were sold out of their custom line/install kit so I used hard line and bent it all and put on my own fittings. But get the install kit it'll be easier. I posted a pic on the first page of mine.

[_kouki_monster_]

i really like the look of the z. i might have to use a little boot like that when i build mine. very clean looking.

[h2v7]

running inline ever cause any issues?

was thinking of doin this on stock everything 4 lug 89 sohc

[di-devol]

http://i906.photobucket.com/albums/ac268/di-devol/IMG618.jpg

I run inline, locks great, no issues. Feels a little funky when hitting the brakes at the same time, but you get over that.

[singlecamslam]

If i was you^ i would make some sort of quick release for that giant handle, like weld in a nut so you can just unscrew it, cause that looks like a pain to drive around daily with that stick poking out.

[di-devol]

If i was you^ i would make some sort of quick release for that giant handle, like weld in a nut so you can just unscrew it, cause that looks like a pain to drive around daily with that stick poking out.

Thanks for the advice, but the car is now down, and when it's done, no more daily driving for it. It seems a bit tall at first, but leverage was needed.

[Pinggg]

^ I actually like where the handle is place. looks good!

[Johnny_K]

pic of me using the asd hydro
http://i300.photobucket.com/albums/nn31/johnnyk1029/Screenshot2012-11-29at100538PM.jpg

More info on the car can be found at
http://www.facebook.com/JohnnyKDrift

[TunerJohnny]

Has anyone used the dual cylinder handbrake setup yet? I would like to get some feedback from them....

Overkill. Unnecessary. Awesome to have. I happen to be selling mine. =P

[Elvin Wes]

PBM kit. Love it.
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v28/cirkumstance/435187db87dc916d361091a519eace19.jpg

ive always like the look of this.

Bike grip???

[EmpyreS13]

^ PBM grip. they have a few different styles available

[HIGHFIVEBETA]

Would look better with OEM shift boot.. and no kitten sock at the base of the lever...

heres the setup I had in my daily... CNC hydro

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v637/btracer02/Z_3-1.jpg

[Guilty1s]

not mounted yet, but its awesome as F***

http://i890.photobucket.com/albums/ac103/Guilty1s/Powder%20Coating/IMG_8766.jpg
http://sphotos-a.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ash4/483630_566096663405672_128036346_n.jpg

[TTnickdizzle]

Heres my set up, I modified a K-sport hydro.

http://i376.photobucket.com/albums/oo202/campbeln2007/80B615B7-0AB3-481D-A5E8-65313122CA3A-2908-000005C525DB7F35.jpg

http://i376.photobucket.com/albums/oo202/campbeln2007/737F4A60-5637-4B2C-A4C9-27FA47A7E099-2908-000005C532E46FB5.jpg

[TTnickdizzle]

OK My dual caliper hydro ebrake set up still isnt working. The handle should have more than enough leverage, i put my old hawk hps pads on, and bleed a quart of fluid thru MC. I just dont know what else to try other than selling everything and going back to stock.

Is there anyone in the indand empire area that has a dual caliper set up to let me feel the responsivness of a working set up? Becuase i honestly dont believe its better than a stock drum brake assembely, and its either put more money into a new MC, Lines, pads or just give up on the whole thing.

[jasoncanseeoh]

FOR THOSE WITH A VERTICAL (Hydro) EBRAKE:

Do any of you guys have issues like me getting used to the setup?
I have a vertical installed and I'm so used to pulling my stock ebrake and it's horizontal position, my first instinct is to pull down there. We had a few sessions a while ago and whenever I had to pull the ebrake mid-drift, I automatically reached down there opposed to reaching for my hydro.

I understand it may just take some getting used to and whatnot, but it just feels so different compared to the stock one. Pulling back instead of pulling up is just odd and has such a different feel. I know I can just buy a horizontal one, etc. But, I already have this one welded in. I'm doing my best to get used to it, although I just wanted other's opinions.

So for those with a vertical, what did you do to get used to the setup? Was it weird for you at first too?

Any input is appreciated.

[Biggamehit]

wilwood master cly going back to my twin caliper setup.




https://fbcdn-sphotos-h-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-prn1/64785_10100893471926948_750906022_n.jpg

https://fbcdn-sphotos-g-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-snc7/427940_10100934348110748_734555258_n.jpg

https://fbcdn-sphotos-a-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-prn1/543531_10100920012614198_1586497452_n.jpg

https://fbcdn-sphotos-h-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-prn1/562447_10100920012694038_1422104717_n.jpg

https://fbcdn-sphotos-a-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-ash4/430530_10100846739389328_1385638749_n.jpg

[Corbic]

Whats the point of the twin calipers? Just keeping the two systems separate?

[Corbic]

stock location ftw

Does it have a lock? How do you park?

[Biggamehit]

Yes sir seperate and no interference. There are moments where the footbrake and handbrake are use at the same time or with in split seconds of each other. If at the same time... one or the other will be slightly canceled out weakening the signal.

I have driven with "tapped" setups and didn't like the dead feeling and driving here in D1 etc that split second is more than enough to lose a tight battle. The kit George provided is awesome,affordable and keeps everything true.

My ISIS handle has a small flip down lock built in, I just had to indent part of the chassis and it rest there and I can slap it around and it will not come undone.. but its highly dangerous to park a car using hydro. My car and most others with this are more track only. I do use the lock at the track when in the pits to lock the wheels for parking but I also use a wheel block as well.

[TTnickdizzle]

FOR THOSE WITH A VERTICAL (Hydro) EBRAKE:

Do any of you guys have issues like me getting used to the setup?
I have a vertical installed and I'm so used to pulling my stock ebrake and it's horizontal position, my first instinct is to pull down there. We had a few sessions a while ago and whenever I had to pull the ebrake mid-drift, I automatically reached down there opposed to reaching for my hydro.

I understand it may just take some getting used to and whatnot, but it just feels so different compared to the stock one. Pulling back instead of pulling up is just odd and has such a different feel. I know I can just buy a horizontal one, etc. But, I already have this one welded in. I'm doing my best to get used to it, although I just wanted other's opinions.

So for those with a vertical, what did you do to get used to the setup? Was it weird for you at first too?

Any input is appreciated.


Yeah i feel the same way too. After training your brain for years to pull from the stock location, its going to take some time to train it to be comfortable pulling from somewhere new. I'd really like it to be put in the stock location just for looks but i wasnt producing enough leverage with my setup.

I do have an update from the last time i posted though. I found that i could get it to lock up after i really heated up my Hawk pads by driving around while slightly pulling on the handle. After i did this it would lock up pretty easy when inniating but still doesnt have enough power to lock it up in a straight line. I ordered some type C carbonetic pads which are supposed to have a really high coeffiecient of friction (0.65) at ambient temps where the hawks dont reach that friction level until they are hot. I also changed the MC mounting point on the handle to give me more leverage at the expense of having a slightly longer throw. I have to wait for the pads to come in and then i'll update this thread.

[Vicious Beaner!]

I know this is the " show me your hydro ebrake setup" thread but thought it'd make sense asking the question here. I will be running r33 calipers in the front of my s14 and want to upgrade the rears using z32 calipers, though i do not want to run the whole drum ebrake setup. I want to run dual caliper brackets along with 2 sets of z32 rear calipers. 1 set for the pedal and the other set for the hydro ebrake and also make it work as a parking brake. Any suggestion? and what type of hydros out there with built in locking mechanisms on the hydro to use when parked? Im sure people have done , but just want to know how well it works. Thanks in advance guys !

[EvoVIII808]

Do. Not use the hydro as a full time ebrake. The pressure goes down overtime and eventually will not hold.Do the brake upgrade like normal for the rear1st z32 with mustang size rotors. for the 2nd you will need the bcm with built in res to hold and supply the fluid.

[Punished]

I know this is the " show me your hydro ebrake setup" thread but thought it'd make sense asking the question here. I will be running r33 calipers in the front of my s14 and want to upgrade the rears using z32 calipers, though i do not want to run the whole drum ebrake setup. I want to run dual caliper brackets along with 2 sets of z32 rear calipers. 1 set for the pedal and the other set for the hydro ebrake and also make it work as a parking brake. Any suggestion? and what type of hydros out there with built in locking mechanisms on the hydro to use when parked? Im sure people have done , but just want to know how well it works. Thanks in advance guys !

ASD or PBM for the hydro, need the one with a reservoir for the 2nd set of calipers.

Don't use the hydro as a parking brake. You will need to park in gear all the time and if on a decent hill throw a block behind the rear wheels. If you plan to DD this, I wouldn't recommend it.

[Breakbeat93]

This may not be the right thread for this question but oh well...
I'm looking to install my hydro and want to upgrade to z32 rears. I was planning to run it inline and mount it in the stock ebrake location (remove my stock ebrake). Being that I will have no use for the drum ebrake setup I was wondering if the z32 caliper/rotor will fit on stock s14 rear knuckles. Can I just remove my stock parts and bolt on the z32 stuff?

Yes I have searched and read a ton of threads on the topic and haven't been able to find the answer

[Guilty1s]

Yes they will fit on without the ebrake assembly.

[cone killer]

i was wondering how you set up your hydraulic ebrake?did you use a proportioning valve.. is there such thing as a one way check valve? i want to prevent from welding on another caliper. thanks for your help and if possible can i see pics of what you did

My s13 didnt come with the proportioning valve on the madster cyl but it was mounted on the pasnger side of the engine bay so I passed the lines through the fire wall and hooked the lines in front of the valve I didnt run my lines to the master cyl because I didnt want to run my lines next to the exhaust manifold

[TTnickdizzle]

Just wanted to update this thread. I got my dual caliper setup finally working like butter. I got some carbonetic C spec pads and it made so much of a difference! Locks up my 18x10.5s super easy even in a straight line.