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nismo270r
01-18-2002, 02:43 AM
Well...Today was a day that will be etched in my mind forever. Not only did I get a chance to drive an AMG C32, but also a 1997 Lotus Esprit V8 Twin Turbo. On with the stories:

AMG C32 Supercharged V6:

I was utterly amazed with this car. I don't know how MB does it, but this 3,540 lb. hunk of sport sedan can scream the 0-60 in a mere 4.9 seconds...And yes, I can vouch for that. The AMG intercooled supercharged V6 skyrockets this machine down the road with ease. Producing [email protected],100rpm and 332 [email protected],400rpm, you had better believe this will get you where you want to be in style, and fast. I have yet to ride in or drive an E46 M3, but from what I've heard, this is quite a comparable car. I must say, for a luxury performance sedan, it was just as much of a blast to drive as the Lotus. The C32 would be a much better candidate for a daily driving car than the Lotus, but there is a very good reason for that. The pictures of the C32:

Here is the frontal view (No I didn't drive the showroom car, but it was freezing out, so we opted to snap the pics of the showroom vehicle):
http://home.insightbb.com/~nismo270r/ZilviaPictures/C32-1.jpg


Here's the rear shot of the C32:


http://home.insightbb.com/~nismo270r/ZilviaPictures/C32-2.jpg


Get a load of the AMG 4-pot brakes up front!


http://home.insightbb.com/~nismo270r/ZilviaPictures/C32-3.jpg


The lovely C32 Interior:


http://home.insightbb.com/~nismo270r/ZilviaPictures/C32-4.jpg


1997 Lotus Esprit V8 Twin Turbo:

Well...Just the name sent shivers down my spine as I drove to the dealer today. I was about a half an hour early, so the car wasn't back from being warmed up yet. After a short wait, we heard the rumble enter into the car wash bay, so we went to check it out. Sure enough...that unmistakeable roar of the Lotus V8 was growling in the wash bay...I could already feel my knees getting weak. He opened up the door and told me to jump in...It's more like fall in. Once I got situated in the driver's seat, you could feel the car was stuck on like a glove. It took quite sometime just to get used to how the clutch engaged, because it was so stiff. Also, the reverse was quite different than I had seen before. There is a small "switch" on the shift lever itself directly underneath the shift knob. You grasp it, pull it up, and pull the gear lever all the way left and back. After finding reverse and getting it out of the wash bay, the challenge began. The gear shifter felt so odd, because in most 5-speed cars, one is used to pushing all the way left and up for first. Well, all the way left, is TOO far left, because reverse is over there. So, I had to quickly learn not to push quite as hard to get it into first. After that was accomplished, and bringing the rpms up to 2000 just to get the car moving, we were off. Just cruising around town for a bit, 3rd gear was all that was needed. It's amazing the amount of people who stare at a Lotus...EVERYONE! People walking, driving, standing on the sidewalk all stop dead in their tracks and gawk. Anyway...down to the nitty gritty of it all...Acceleration is an understatment...Sitting at idle, if you punch the gas to the floor and immediately let off, it will jump the rpm's right near redline. The DOHC twin turbo V8 redlines right around 7500rpm, spitting out [email protected],000rpm and [email protected],250rpm...and for it to jump up to that redline so quick, is plain scary. Even scarier than that...1st and 2nd gear DRIVE like that. If you are in 1st or 2nd with the rpms around 2000-3000 and mash the throttle, you will be at redline in no time at all. When the car pulls a 4.4sec 0-60, and a 13.0 1/4 mile stock, it's to be expected. Weighing in a 3,045 lbs., you can barely tell it's that hefty of a car besides the solidness. I was rolling in 1st gear and mashed the throttle...Instantly the back end was wagging like a puppy's tail. Slammed it into 2nd gear and as soon as the tires gripped up...we were right at redline...It's rather easy to get the tail end around a corner as I found out as well...although it was quite easy to get it to come right back. The handling in the car is unbelievable. The slightest twitch of the steering wheel is instantly felt by the driver. It is the most precise handling I have ever experienced...And to slow you down from all the insane power, the brakes have absolutely no problem with that. Brembo calipers up front bring you to a halt in no time at all. I let a car take off from a stop sign in front of me. They were about to the next intersection while I was rolling in first to let them increase the gap. After punching it through 1st and 2nd, I found myself quickly approaching their rear bumper. This is when we decided to see what the brakes would do. I locked up the brakes and the ABS chattered a bit and we came to a halt with plenty of room to spare. Although I had to scrape my eyes off the inside of the windshield after that, it was worth it. The interior left quite a bit to be desired, as most supercars' interiors do. I have never been a huge fan of "buttercream" leather, but I couldn't let that stop me! The previous owner slapped on a Momo shift knob, which I thought looked quite tacky in a Lotus. I could have done without the wood trim dash as well. He also swapped off the factory 17x8.5/18x10 OZ Wheels for new OZ Mitto Modulars. Well, how about some pics...

Ahh...My new car (I WISH!<img src="http://www.zilvia.net/f/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/wink.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=';)'>:


http://home.insightbb.com/~nismo270r/ZilviaPictures/Lotus-1.jpg


Those meaty rear tires are so much fun!


http://home.insightbb.com/~nismo270r/ZilviaPictures/Lotus-2.jpg


The famous supercar buttercream leather interior:


http://home.insightbb.com/~nismo270r/ZilviaPictures/Lotus-3.jpg


To show you how low and flat the car is Rob(KoukiS14) is posing (and wishing he could fit in the #### thing to drive it) on a knee. Yeah, Rob is like 6'4", but even kneeling down he's right at headlevel with the roofline!


http://home.insightbb.com/~nismo270r/ZilviaPictures/Lotus-4.jpg


Ahhh...Taking delivery of my new car:) Take into consideration, I'm only 5'8"/180lbs...I make the car look tiny. The interior is rather cramped I must say, and I don't think it would make for a very comfortable daily driver.


http://home.insightbb.com/~nismo270r/ZilviaPictures/Lotus-5.jpg


It's been a fun week driving an S2000, new WRX, AMG C32 and a 1997 Lotus Esprit V8 Twin Turbo...My first supercar! WOO HOO! Now it's time to hit up Continental Ferrari on Ogden Ave!! :biggrin: After that, all I'll need to do is drive an R34 and a McLaren F1 and my life will be complete! Until then...

(Edited by nismo270r at 4:58 am on Jan. 18, 2002)

nismo270r
01-18-2002, 02:49 AM
Almost forgot to mention, I'm going to go back to the dealership later today now (Friday) and drag my buddy along with his digital camcorder. &nbsp;Going to try to get some clips of the Lotus...You have to hear the music that comes from that engine...If I get lucky, I may be able to get some clips of me driving around town! &nbsp;We'll see!

dmaestro
01-18-2002, 04:42 AM
Nice! &nbsp;Hopefully you didnt leave any stains in the Lotus <img src="http://www.zilvia.net/f/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/wink.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=';)'>

whateverjames
01-18-2002, 09:04 AM
you bastard guy, you are lucky. how did you get to drive all these cars again? you have a friend that works there?

onebadm5
01-18-2002, 09:58 AM
very cool. i've always loved lotus, especially the 60's Elan. they are nimble as fuck and quick as ####. they may not have the top end of other supercars, because they are engineered for all out handling, and therefore the engine is designed to develop peak power at the optimum powerband.

here's my favorite lotus, an Elise GT1. no sir, there's no K Series rover engine in there. its a 520 hp version of the espirit's 3.5 Twin Turbo V8, along with a sequential Hewland 6 speed box, carbon body, and carbon brakes.

http://www.pistonheads.com/news/images/2915-4.jpg

http://www.pistonheads.com/news/images/2915-5.jpg

http://www.pistonheads.com/news/images/2915-6.jpg

http://www.pistonheads.com/news/images/2915-7.jpg

twofortysx
01-18-2002, 11:20 AM
{Tim Allen voice} AGGGHHH AGGGHHH AGGGGGHHHH {/Tim Allen voice}

(Edited by twofortysx at 10:22 am on Jan. 18, 2002)

nismo270r
01-19-2002, 02:42 AM
HEHE...yes...I am a bastard...one of my friends used to work there, so we know most of the salespeople there.
&quot;It's good to be the king!&quot; :biggrin:

</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote </td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">Quote: from whateverjames on 11<img src="http://www.zilvia.net/f/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/wow.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=':0'>4 am on Jan. 18, 2002
you bastard guy, you are lucky. how did you get to drive all these cars again? you have a friend that works there?
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nismo270r
01-19-2002, 02:47 AM
Yeah...the Elise GT1 is one badass car...I'd still love to get an Elise (122hp car that runs 0-60 in 5.6...since it only weighs in at 1565lbs.) or a 340R (190hp car that runs 0-60 in 4.5...only tipping the scales at 1451lbs).

</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote </td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">Quote: from onebadm5 on 11:58 am on Jan. 18, 2002
very cool. i've always loved lotus, especially the 60's Elan. they are nimble as fuck and quick as ####. they may not have the top end of other supercars, because they are engineered for all out handling, and therefore the engine is designed to develop peak power at the optimum powerband.

here's my favorite lotus, an Elise GT1. no sir, there's no K Series rover engine in there. its a 520 hp version of the espirit's 3.5 Twin Turbo V8, along with a sequential Hewland 6 speed box, carbon body, and carbon brakes.

DuffMan
01-19-2002, 03:14 AM
Hey, I pass by Continental Ferrari on Ogden every day on my way home from work. Always a nice bit of eye candy at the end of the day.

So what, they just let you walk in there and drive them?

onebadm5
01-19-2002, 12:53 PM
a company called sun productions brings over the elise and drops in a B18C from an SIR, making it emissions
legal.

here's some stats:
Weight &amp; Performance of the Sun International Elise w/ Honda B18C powertrain

There are several versions of the original Elise produced by Lotus. E.g. 111S, Sport 160, Sport 190, Motorsport, 340R. The original version had aluminum uprights and brake rotors. The subsequent base version Elise had iron uprights and brake rotors. Lotus lists the kerb weight of the standard version Elise as 770 kg (1694 lbs). We've been told that this is without fuel.

The following weights were obtained at Sun International

Honda powertrain, complete ready to install, including: trans axel, intake, fuel injection, exhaust header, engine oil, gear oil, intermediate axel, starter, alternator, oil cooler, etc. 419 lbs &nbsp;
Elise 111S w/ Honda powertrain. Complete vehicle. Total weight includes soft top and fittings, full tank of fuel, fluids, catalyst and Lotus muffler, standard battery: &nbsp;
&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; Total Curb weight &nbsp; &nbsp;1719 lbs (781.4 kg) &nbsp;
&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;Distribution: &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;Left Front - 330 lbs &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;Right Front - 326 lbs &nbsp;

&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;Left Rear &nbsp;- 542 lbs &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;Right Rear &nbsp;- 521 lbs
&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;Rear weight is 1063 pounds. Weight distribution front / rear = 38.2% / 61.8% &nbsp;

&nbsp; &nbsp;3. &nbsp; &nbsp;Standard Elise, model year 2000. Complete vehicle with Honda B18C Type R installed and running.

&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;Includes: Motorsport wheels w/ Yokohama 038 R, roll bar cover and rear glass, fire extinguisher,

&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;Excludes: soft top, and hardware;

&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;Notes: installed light weight battery and titanium sport exhaust, 11 liters of fuel

&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;Total Curb weight &nbsp; &nbsp;1629 lbs (739.0 kg)

&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;Distribution &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;Left front - 323 lbs (146.5 kg) &nbsp; &nbsp;Right front - 311 lbs (140.5 kg)

&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; Left rear - &nbsp;509 lbs (230.5 kg) &nbsp; &nbsp;Right rear - &nbsp;486 lbs (220.5 kg)

&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;Front / Rear - 38.9% / 61.1%

SIR performance specifications:

The Elise w/ the SIR base version engine of 200 bhp is capable of:

0 - 60 mph in 4.3 seconds
1/4 mile in 12.5 @ 110 mph
60 mph - 0 in less than 120 feet
lateral acceleration exceeding 1.0 g

Nismos14
01-19-2002, 10:58 PM
man o man what i wouldnt give to drive those cars...... u bastard guy <img src="http://www.zilvia.net/f/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/tounge.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=':p'>

(Edited by Nismos14 at 1<img src="http://www.zilvia.net/f/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/wow.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=':0'>0 am on Jan. 20, 2002)

KoukiS14
01-20-2002, 02:21 AM
</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote </td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">Quote: from DuffMan on 3:14 am on Jan. 19, 2002
Hey, I pass by Continental Ferrari on Ogden every day on my way home from work. Always a nice bit of eye candy at the end of the day.

So what, they just let you walk in there and drive them?
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####!! You live up there? Continental is one the of the places I know how to get haha. . I ALWAYS have to stop there. .. it's funny. . in winter, you see all the shitty cars parked in the lot. . (355s. . 512TRs... BENTLEYS) but the GOOD shit is inside lol. .

OHH. . I drove that C230 Kompressor coupe in the pic next to the lotus. . haha I had just returned from my test drive too. . . okay. . not a C32 or a Lotus. . But I'm not as good of a bullshitter as Chris is haha

It was a great car tho. . worthy 240sx replacement, if I could have gotten into a 6 spd. . Not another 318ti like I thought it'd be.

-Rob

(Edited by KoukiS14 at 2:22 am on Jan. 20, 2002)

01-20-2002, 06:38 PM
Thats beautiful stuff. &nbsp;In Beverly Hills a couple weeks ago, my friend and I stumbled onto a yellow/orange McLaren F1 - stunning car.

Then last week, my friend told me he stumbled upon a Ferrari F50 on the STREETS in LA. &nbsp;You tell me that ISNT rare.

I love LA.

- Mike / ClearCorners.Com