S15 Helical LSD Finally installed

[sykikchimp]

Well, I wrote this HUGE long post about HOW to do it, but FRIGGIN MicroShaft WinBlows had a fatal error and closed it on me.. so I think I'll just write it again on my site one of these days.

As for a review.. The thing ROCKS. Exactly what I wanted. Under decel, and idle situation, the car responds exactly as before. no instability, or loose rear end under trail braking, etc. very nice.
What REALLY kicks is when you step on the gas at corner exit. Car squats, and the outside rear tire actually PUSHES that side of the car around and through the corner. I now use less steering input on corner exit to get the same corner exit angle. SWEET. this allows me to step on the gas a LOT sooner. I'm still getting used to this, as it feels VERY different from the "step on teh gas, light the inside tire, and PUSH to the outside" syndrome it had before.
Drag launches have TONS more traction. I have a new realization for how much my current OEM clutch SUCKS now. I haven't been able to break the tires loose in a straight line yet.
Overall, perfect for me. Seriously no change in daily drivability, and tons of increase in grip performance.

As soon as I can get my butt out to a drift event, I'm going to give it a try there too, and see how it does.

Also.. just a note cause I know this used to come up. The 13mm bolt holes on the ring gear flange of the S15 diff don't matter. You don't actually need any kind of spacer. The ring gear is Centric to the diff housing. What this means is, ALL you need to do the install is the HLSD unit, and it's output shafts. NO custom spacers and crap. WEE!

-Charles

[Dousan_PG]

WOAH sweet
finally ...after how many months? 5? hahaha
nice nice.
yeah HLSD is pretty cool
you should try a clutch LSD too if you can..very different feel

let us know when you go to track how it was! :)

HLSD is drifting does the job, but when you compare w/ clutch..you really cant compare, Clutch is defiantely more suitable

but its better then open diff! :) hehehe..

[lbcklik1486]

Wow, badass man:cool: And yea, stock clutches do suck, I need a new one badly!:p

[sykikchimp]

Originally posted by Dousan_PG
WOAH sweet
finally ...after how many months? 5? hahaha
nice nice.
yeah HLSD is pretty cool
you should try a clutch LSD too if you can..very different feel

let us know when you go to track how it was! :)

HLSD is drifting does the job, but when you compare w/ clutch..you really cant compare, Clutch is defiantely more suitable

but its better then open diff! :) hehehe..

5 months? HA try a 12! I got it as a christmas present LAST YEAR! lol.. It was sitting in the garage for the longest time. It actually started to get a twinge of rust on it. LOL

If I was into drifting, I would have bought a clutch diff. If I try drifting, and get hooked, who knows.. I might still get one.

[hurleyboi514]

awesome!! thats the diff i wanna run... i just have been waiting for someone to actually run it so i could see how to do it! :) haha!! congrats man...

charles, we should get together up in charlotte sometime soon, i go up there all the time. it'd be easy to throw a 240 meet. maybe do some karting? victory lanes just switched to 9 hp (from 4.5) karts, and graphted the oval into the road course, so it should be muuuch faster!! :)

[ILiveToDrift]

Very cool!!1!1 You should write up the intall again, you know because I too want HLSD :D .

[thelinja]

Haha, about time you put that thing in. ;) I CAN'T WAIT to install mine next weekend. It's gonna be soooooo awesome.

[twitchy]

Whats Helacial mean?? :confused:

and if you like chimp...Ill make you a HLSD sticker!!:boink:

[thelinja]

go tothe motorsports thread and read "LSD of Choice" to find out what a helical diff does.

[019]

that's awesome, charles. too bad that writeup got lost, hehe. windows will do that to ya. i was pretty interested in how hard it would be to put an hlsd in the 240. i guess the hard part is just getting everything, huh? i still need a diff....

[samiam]

All I ever heard was people having difficulties installing this lsd. I have the very same one that has been in my garage for about the same time....Waiting to put it on my s14, but I heard you need the output flanges so Im waiting for someone to get em for me in Japan. Unless there's an other way to get this done....

Havent had time to get under the car since it's a daily driver and I don't have any time for it to be out of commission. SYKIKCHIMP- if you can shoot a email over this way to gimme some info on install unless you're gonna put it on the web any time soon.

[sykikchimp]

It took about 8 hours total work for someone who's never even seen the inside of a differential.

I'll work on the write up real soon. unfortunately I don't have any pics.. :(

Cool thing is that the process would be almost identical for ANY aftermarket differential.

[sykikchimp]

Originally posted by hurleyboi514
awesome!! thats the diff i wanna run... i just have been waiting for someone to actually run it so i could see how to do it! :) haha!! congrats man...

charles, we should get together up in charlotte sometime soon, i go up there all the time. it'd be easy to throw a 240 meet. maybe do some karting? victory lanes just switched to 9 hp (from 4.5) karts, and graphted the oval into the road course, so it should be muuuch faster!! :)

That sounds like an awesome idea.. you need to drive it again since it got 300zx brakes, and the diff!..

[SilviaDriver]

awsome!! write up for sure! and give us more imput when u test the HLSD in other driving conditions

dont hear this from people everydya

[Steeles]

congrats chimp! i never realized you were running without one lol.. guess I was watching the road and your tailights too much to check out your tires in the mountains.

[mbmbmb23]

Originally posted by hurleyboi514
awesome!! thats the diff i wanna run... i just have been waiting for someone to actually run it so i could see how to do it! :) haha!! congrats man...

charles, we should get together up in charlotte sometime soon, i go up there all the time. it'd be easy to throw a 240 meet. maybe do some karting? victory lanes just switched to 9 hp (from 4.5) karts, and graphted the oval into the road course, so it should be muuuch faster!! :)

Is Victory Lane the place at Concord Mills??



-m

[sxse240]

More details on the output shafts, please. I've got an S15 HLSD I'd like to put in, but have been waiting for the correct answers to the install. I have just the diff, not the entire housing. Do I still need the shafts? Are they splined differently, or what's the story?

[Dousan_PG]

Originally posted by sxse240
More details on the output shafts, please. I've got an S15 HLSD I'd like to put in, but have been waiting for the correct answers to the install. I have just the diff, not the entire housing. Do I still need the shafts? Are they splined differently, or what's the story?


Dear Doctor,

Please read the above post (first post) by sykikchimp:

Also.. just a note cause I know this used to come up. The 13mm bolt holes on the ring gear flange of the S15 diff don't matter. You don't actually need any kind of spacer. The ring gear is Centric to the diff housing. What this means is, ALL you need to do the install is the HLSD unit, and it's output shafts. NO custom spacers and crap. WEE!

[fliprayzin240sx]

Originally posted by sykikchimp
Well, I wrote this HUGE long post about HOW to do it, but FRIGGIN MicroShaft WinBlows had a fatal error and closed it on me.. so I think I'll just write it again on my site one of these days.

As for a review.. The thing ROCKS. Exactly what I wanted. Under decel, and idle situation, the car responds exactly as before. no instability, or loose rear end under trail braking, etc. very nice.
What REALLY kicks is when you step on the gas at corner exit. Car squats, and the outside rear tire actually PUSHES that side of the car around and through the corner. I now use less steering input on corner exit to get the same corner exit angle. SWEET. this allows me to step on the gas a LOT sooner. I'm still getting used to this, as it feels VERY different from the "step on teh gas, light the inside tire, and PUSH to the outside" syndrome it had before.
Drag launches have TONS more traction. I have a new realization for how much my current OEM clutch SUCKS now. I haven't been able to break the tires loose in a straight line yet.
Overall, perfect for me. Seriously no change in daily drivability, and tons of increase in grip performance.

As soon as I can get my butt out to a drift event, I'm going to give it a try there too, and see how it does.

Also.. just a note cause I know this used to come up. The 13mm bolt holes on the ring gear flange of the S15 diff don't matter. You don't actually need any kind of spacer. The ring gear is Centric to the diff housing. What this means is, ALL you need to do the install is the HLSD unit, and it's output shafts. NO custom spacers and crap. WEE!

-Charles

So wheres the write up??? Im actually thinking of going hlsd but i keep hearing about all kinds of issues and i dont know what to believe anymore. Id go clutch type but im not digging the chattering and clunking.

[thelinja]

Originally posted by fliprayzin240sx
So wheres the write up??? Im actually thinking of going hlsd but i keep hearing about all kinds of issues and i dont know what to believe anymore. Id go clutch type but im not digging the chattering and clunking.
He said he'll re-write it and put it on his site. Also, I'm interestd to know what type of "issues" you've heard.

[hurleyboi514]

yea... it rocks!!


Originally posted by mbmbmb23
Is Victory Lane the place at Concord Mills??



-m

[sykikchimp]

It has a different # of splines. I didn't count them, but I can assure you that open diff output shafts do not work, although they look VERY similar. I tried to put them in the diff when it was out just to see.

I thought victory lanes was down 85 right before you got to 77?

[sykikchimp]

Originally posted by Steeles
congrats chimp! i never realized you were running without one lol.. guess I was watching the road and your tailights too much to check out your tires in the mountains.

ehh.. most the time Russ was slowing me down anyways.. LOL

[Steeles]

Originally posted by sykikchimp
ehh.. most the time Russ was slowing me down anyways.. LOL

hahaha I really wished I'd had better tires on when we went so we could have rEALLy pushed it that second leg. although I think Jason would have messed in my seats. I'll be ready in May. RA and then up 61 again. mmm that'll be a great weeked

[Exessive26]

Originally posted by sykikchimp
I thought victory lanes was down 85 right before you got to 77? Yeah..that's were it is...kick a$$ place, we all should deff go. Sykikchimp are you attending any CCR events next season? I want to see that diff in action. And as for drifting, We go to some local spots here in Charlotte..if you interested.

[sykikchimp]

yeah, I'll probably come out to a few. auto-x is fun when I can't get to normal tracks. As far as drifting goes, shoot me a PM, and we can talk.

[hurleyboi514]

ive been to alot of CCR events... what car are you in?? i probably went to about half of them. i never remember all the regions, we have SCR, triad, ccr, highlands, so many!! :) i probably wont do as many autox's, im more into track racing, but ill do autox to keep my reflexes sharp.

oh, and i emailed japandy about locating another S15 diff, id like to get a hold of one before spring... w00t! :)

[crioten]

if you want give the guys at chaosmotorworks.com a call...they mainly source used japanese parts and they have great customer service...plus they are close to st louis, which i like...

just an idea

-glen

[ryan hagen]

do you need the lsd out puts from the s15, or would nissan lsd out puts form the vlsd work? i got a vlsd right now and i m not very impressed, mines out of a 300zx n/a

[hurleyboi514]

well, i just got off the phone with chaos motorsports. he has already sourced an LSD for me, but it's a little high right now. he is going to japan and asked me to find out if anyone else is intresting in a helical unit and output shafts, so he can get more of them. so, is anyone intrested???

[ryan hagen]

pm me the price

[Hikarispeed]

Originally posted by ryan hagen
pm me the price

Same here.

[Vatche]

i would be interested in an s15 lsd....obviously if the price is good...but yeh

[hurleyboi514]

alright, ill give chaos a call tomorrow if they are open. if not, ill call them monday. is anyone else intrested?? ill talk to him about pricing and so on... right now, we've thrown around some pretty loose figures, so ill see what i can do... thanks for the intrest...

[Ryan of Velocity]

I have an S15 HLSD laying around in my garage if anyone is interested. Ended up with it when a friend of mine needed a diff, trading him a Z diff I had for it because he didn't have time to wait for the flanges.

[SilviaDriver]

they sell s15 HLSD on ebay all the time

cant u just buy the unit and use shafts n stuff from a vlsd unit? that should work right?

[sykikchimp]

nope. The s15 output shafts have different # of splines than the OEM open diff. From conversations I've had before, I don't believe the vlsd shafts will work either.

also, the s15 output shafts are 6 bolt 2 pair just like the s13 open diff flanges, so they bolt right up to your stock axles.

[Ryan of Velocity]

Yup, you need the S15 output flanges for the HLSD. I have heard though that R32 GTS-T flanges work but I never tested the theory myself.

[Jeff240sx]

PM me the price also. I don't care how up in the air it is, I would just like a starting price somewhere in the ballpark.
-Jeff

[SilviaDriver]

PM me with a price also

thanks

[TheSparo]

might as well send me a price to man ;)
thanks

[hurleyboi514]

alright, looks like we have alot of intrest... ill call them today when i get off of work...

[Vatche]

so did u ever call them i want to know too

[hurleyboi514]

yeah, called and left a message, sent an email, and nothing... they may be out of town i guess? i dunno, its been a week and nothing...

[thelinja]

I just finished installing my S15 HLSD today. Took about 8hrs total and was fairly straight forward.

It's a whole new car. It's like a joke really. I was actually laughing driving around corners without the usual inside wheel spin. I HIGHLY recommend this swap to anyone with an interest in both drag racing, or any kind of road racing.

[Phlip]

Originally posted by fliprayzin240sx
Id go clutch type but im not digging the chattering and clunking.
This is the same level of bitching I hear from people about the rattling B&M shifters... It's NOTHING, I have driven Steeles' car a few times and ridden in it many more, the clunk is only NOTICEABLE at low speeds and nothing to cry about...

[mellojoe]

pm me the price, too

Also, when's that write up coming?? ;-)

The price that you are looking for, is that for the HLSD only? or is it for the HLSD and the output shafts?

How different is the s14? I've been looking for an easier way to get an LSD for my '98 (no abs). So we just need the s15 HLSD plus the output shafts? Wonderful.

[thelinja]

I can go head and make a write up real quick :
1. Jack up car and support it with four jack stands.
2. Remove exhaust, and if you have a rear sway bar (S14 SE), remove it as well, you don't need to, but it makes it easier. Before removing exhaust, go ahead and soak the subframe and axle bolts with WD40 and PB Blaster.
3. After the exhaust and swaybar are off, go to work with the breaker bar.
Here's the order in which I removed the bolts:
axle bolts (12)
rear crossmember bolts (2)
driveshaft bolts (4)
front diff support bolts (2)
There's also a breather hose on top of the diff, make sure to disconnect it.
4.)After bolts are removed, remove diff, it may take some work to get it out, but it'll fall. I supported it with a jack and just worked with it until it was loose, then just lowered the jack.
5.) make sure the diff is level and drain the oil.
6.) while it's draining, loosen the cover bolts.
7.) after the diff is empty, replace the drain plug so you don't misplace it and remove the cover..
8.) Pull out the output shafts and remove the side supports (4 bolts) and now you will be looking at the open diff guts, it needs to be pryed out. I used to two pieces of pipe and it popped right out. Before you take it out, remember which side the spacers and bearing covers go on, I used the stock spacers as opposed to the S15 spacers I received with my diff and had no spacing problems.
9.) once you get the diff out, put it in a vise and remove the ring gear bolts, these are a pain in the ass and loctite is applied at the factory so I had to use a cheater pipe. But then again, I'm prety weak so yeah. :p
10.) Repeat step 9 if the S15 HLSD has a ring gear. if not, then you're a lucky bastard.
11.) put the S15 diff in the vise along with the ring gear you removed from the open diff and bolt it back up using the bolts you removed from the open diff. I used loctite and torqued the bolts to 140ft-lbs
12.) now it's time to transplant that shit
13.) Put the bearing covers on, drop the new diff in, making sure it makes contact with the pinion and put the spacers back on their respective sides and bolt the side supports back up.
14.) Put the S15 output shafts in and be careful not to ruin the side seals. It's actually a good idea to replace these. When the pumpin is empty, pound out the old seals and pound the new ones in, making sure they are in straight.
15.) Clean off the diff/cover mating surface with some carb cleaner and apply RTV afterwards. Bolt the diff cover back on and fill it with gear lube. HLSD's don't need any additive so I just used synthetic blend Valvoline 80W-90.
16.) After making sure there are no leaks and that the diff works when the companion flange is turned, it's time to bolt that shit up to the car.
17.) Put the diff back on the jack and go to work putting it back onto the car. It's probably a good idea to get the two crossmember bolts back on first, and then reconnect the axles to the output shafts second. Then put the rest of the bolts on and torque them to spec.
18.) put the exhaust back on and put the swaybar back on. Or if you want to be a ricer, you can drive around with no exhaust for a while.
Drop the car, take it for a test drive and enjoy the lack of inside wheel spin.

That's probably a really shitty write-up but I just threw it together. Haha
If you have any questions on the install, feel free to PM me.

[DuffMan]

hehe, thelinja stole the one I wanted from me with some last minute ebay bid sharking. :fawkd:

[sykikchimp]

FSM says to torques the ring gear bolts to 180ft lbs..

also, you will want to verify that backlash, and runout are still within spec. Otherwise you could end up with some nasty whine, or even worse busted gears..

[andrave]

why not just post it up in group deals or something, that way the whole forum could view it, AND you wouldn't have to send out 20 pm's. I'm curious as to what the price is too.

[ryan hagen]

i dont think any one ever was given a price, i never heard from him....

[thelinja]

Ok, well the handfull that I've seen on Ebay have gone from around 300-400, some with output shafts, some without.

Strange, my fsm said like 130-152ft-lb. I'm not worried about it, it's not coming off.

[Heartwork]

Quote:
Originally posted by fliprayzin240sx
Id go clutch type but im not digging the chattering and clunking.

This is the same level of bitching I hear from people about the rattling B&M shifters... It's NOTHING, I have driven Steeles' car a few times and ridden in it many more, the clunk is only NOTICEABLE at low speeds and nothing to cry about...

seriously!
it's almost as bad when people want coilovers, but wish for a "comfy/Cadillac" ride or they want an exhaust but not "louder than stock" WTFFFF!

btw, HLSD rocks!

[hurleyboi514]

yeah, i never even talked to the guy again... i called a couple times, left some messages, a few emails, got nothing back?? oh well, it would have been nice...

[XxJaPxOxNeEs23xX]

i would like to know the price too please . thanks

[niGht_kraWler]

yes I'm interested let me know what happens

[nightwalker]

just buy yourself a good 1.5 or 2 way and call it a day.

[final act]

cool, cant wait to check out your tutorial on the install,let us know when u get it up on your site......peace! :rawk:

[thelinja]

All of you guys that keep saying "Oh let me know too" just look around the internet for them. I haven't seen them on ebay for a while, but I'm sure there are some out there. Check Yahoo auctions, check Ebay, check Jspec. HLSD's are extrememly rare, you're going to have to go out and look for a while, rather than just posting pointless shit.

[thx247]

oh christ just post the price....all this PM nonsense

[hurleyboi514]

yeah, i never even talked to the guy again... i called a couple times, left some messages, a few emails, got nothing back?? oh well, it would have been nice...


i dunno why guys keep asking for prices, didnt you see my post? the guy doing the group buy stopped returning my calls and emails, bah!! so stop asking...

[Jeff240sx]

Thelinja, Sykikchimp, have you guys noticed the 10% reduction in gearing? According to most programs, that differential costs you .2 seconds 0-60, and crossing the 1/4 at the same time, about a mile an hour slower. Your thoughts?
-Jeff

[Vatche]

jeff do u mean vs the open diff? or vlsd? or which

[98sr20ve]

All this talk about the HLSD. You could also just get a Quaife and be done with it. Same basic thing. I would guess this item used would be cheaper then a new Quaife of course but the Quaife would come with a lifetime warranty.

[hurleyboi514]

All this talk about the HLSD. You could also just get a Quaife and be done with it. Same basic thing. I would guess this item used would be cheaper then a new Quaife of course but the Quaife would come with a lifetime warranty.

thats the only reason we buy the S15 diff. $250 vs $850+ for the same thing??

[sykikchimp]

$850 would be a steal on an R200 Quaife. Most places sell it for around $1200. And the torque bias ratio on the S15 lsd is built for the S chassis. I would think it wouldl likely be a bit closer to ideal than the quaife since the quife is really designed for Z's.

Jeff.. We only used the differential unit. We retained the 4.08 ring and pinion gears, so there was no reduction acceleration, only Buttloads more traction.

[thelinja]

Thelinja, Sykikchimp, have you guys noticed the 10% reduction in gearing? According to most programs, that differential costs you .2 seconds 0-60, and crossing the 1/4 at the same time, about a mile an hour slower. Your thoughts?
-Jeff
Umm, actually, I dind't use the ring gear that came with the helical diff. The ring gear that came with my diff had 48 teeth, and was to be used with a pinoin with 13 teeth, that's what it says on the ring gear itself (48/13), which would yield a final drive 10% less than stock at 3.69. Since I didn't have the matching pinion, I just took of the ring gear that came on the diff, and just put the ring gear from my open diff on the HLSD. So there was no reduction in gearing.

I think I answered your question, if not, let me know.

[joellg]

I bought my HLSD on E Bay for $400. And if anyone needs output flanges, from the dealer, the part #s are
Right flange-38220-29U00
Left flange -38220-29U01

[the240sxer95]

how much did it cost you?

[joellg]

I haven't got that far yet.(too many projects) But I think they were around 300 for both, if I remember. It's been a while since I got those #s

[hurleyboi514]

good info, thanks! did you try cross referencing that # to see what else they come in?? that'd be nice to see...
-Ken

[the240sxer95]

550 for the hlsd. not bad i guess..

[Jeff240sx]

So. S15 ring gear = 13mm. S14 ring gear = 12mm. How did that work?
I may or may not have won an auction for a hlsd, so I have a vested interest in this information.
Could you list some better "Step-by-step" directions on switching my s14 ring gear into the s15 differential?
-Jeff

[sykikchimp]

So. S15 ring gear = 13mm. S14 ring gear = 12mm. How did that work?
I may or may not have won an auction for a hlsd, so I have a vested interest in this information.
Could you list some better "Step-by-step" directions on switching my s14 ring gear into the s15 differential?
-Jeff
first.. don't switch the s14 gear into the s15 diff, switch the S15 lsd unit into the s14 diff. The pinion gear install is the part of the installation I was avoiding b/c that is the really complex part of the install. By just using the s14 diff with the proper pinion gear already installed it makes things much simpler.

There's nothing special necessary. The ring gear is centric to the LSD housing, not the ring gear bolts. The 1mm extra space doesn't matter.

Simply bolt the stock 4.08 gear onto the new housing with the 12mm bolts.

I was wrong earlier about the torque.. it is 130-145 ft lb's Tighten the bolts in a criss cross pattern while slightly tapping the balts with a hammer.

I would HIGHLY recommend having an FSM on hand for a swap like this. The entire procedure is outlined in excellent detail. I believe are are some .pdf copies floating around. Also understand that if you install the LSD with the stock shims, and find it out of spec, you will have to figure out the correct size for new spacers, and order them from nissan, and wait for them to come in b/c I highly doubt they will have them in stock..

[hurleyboi514]

i just got my S15 helical diff from Jspec today... its pretty! :) now, ive gotta figure out what axle stubs and axles i'll need to use. i picked up a pair of Z32 axle stubs to try out. well, they dont work. the diameter is too small, they dont fit quite right.... so next, ill be trying a set of S13 open diff ones, then ill move onto S14's... we shall see, ill keep ya updated...

[sykikchimp]

I would suggest trying S14 VLSD shafts.

[98sr20ve]

From what I know about the quaife it is not tuneable. The Quaife spec one and the Nissan Spec one would be the same from performance. I think I need to find a S15 LSD.

[Ryan of Velocity]

i just got my S15 helical diff from Jspec today... its pretty! :) now, ive gotta figure out what axle stubs and axles i'll need to use. i picked up a pair of Z32 axle stubs to try out. well, they dont work. the diameter is too small, they dont fit quite right.... so next, ill be trying a set of S13 open diff ones, then ill move onto S14's... we shall see, ill keep ya updated...


You need S15 output flanges. I've heard that R32 GTS-T flanges work as well but I've never tried it myself. Z32, S13, and S14 don't work.

[Ryan of Velocity]

I have an S15 HLSD btw, no housing, no output flanges though. If anyone wants it you can pm me an offer.

[hurleyboi514]

I would suggest trying S14 VLSD shafts.

yah, ill try that as well... ive got access to quite a few different output shafts. there is a guy in the area with literally 15-16 lsd's. some with lsd, some without, but i know hes got at least one of each... :)

[hurleyboi514]

well, i just tried my set of open diff S13 output shafts, and they dont quiiite fit. they are really close though... i counted the teeth, and ive got 29 on the output shaft, and 30 grooves inside the S15 diff, so its only off by one tooth. now hopefully i can go pick up that pair of S14 output shafts and check them out... onward in the name of science!! :)

[420sx]

commercial posts are prohibited in chat. you have to pay for advertising yourself. read forum rules and end yourself now.

[chmercer]

awesome, i totally wanted to see a thread from 2 years ago, thanks for bumping this with your first awesome post.

[tastyratz]

1, that was some snuck in advertising but you probabbly get off on a technicality. 2, you did reincarnate a petrified thread albeit useful info but stil. 3, now that its up at the top again i wanna see someone do a writeup with pictures lol.

[Al_S14]

I bought my HLSD on E Bay for $400. And if anyone needs output flanges, from the dealer, the part #s are
Right flange-38220-29U00
Left flange -38220-29U01

are these available at US dealers or does it have to come straight from japan?

[420sx]

First off,

Thumbs up to sykikchimp for an excellent start to this thread.
Good to see someone posting about a completed successful job.

OK, now for 420vodka,

Maybe if you didn't sit around all day in a stupor, playing (take your pick)
A) chatroom-charlie,
B) forum freddie
C) keyboard-dictator,
D) the little colonel,
you would have know what shafts fit the S15,
and kept this info up on this site so I would not have had to stick my nose in.

Bottom line, I import more S15 helicals than any one in the country.
I am the only one selling them complete with the correct shafts on a regular basis.
I don't sit around playing big shot to every new-bee that stumbles onto Zilvia.
So go back, take another swig of fermented potatoe juice, and be quiet, listen, and actually learn something.


So Piss-Off !

well i thought i would be somewhat nice and tell you not to make commercial posts, which you are since you are advertising yourself and do not use insults.
I couldnt stop myself from posting when I saw your commercial. for a second i thought you would want me to switch to Geiko to save money on car insuarance.

However, i never even cared for s15 helical in the first place. clutch owns it in every way possible. if you dont want clutch then get quaffe. I consider hlsd a waste of money. just dont give me "not everyone wants to drift". or maybe, "not everyone wants to drag" too?



Also, Lt. Dumbfuck, theres more than 1 thread on s15 helical and most people that actually want a helical know what they need for it. Everyone and their grandma knows you need s15 output shafts. Stop promoting your ebay business here and be a dick about it.

so, in other words:

Bite a Dick and Choke on it. Bitch, die. :wavey:

[Fastimport]

Typical Drunk.........

[420sx]

well,

this is a 240sx forum. :spank:

only things that people "do" with their cars besides posing and yacking is:

1)drag
2)drift
3)auto-x

so, first 2 are pwnage with a clutch type. auto-x with 1.5 way will be great as well. plus many are fine with stock Vlsd. so your examples make no relevance to the subject, ok? bye bye. :hahano:

[Al_S14]

i just called the dealer and as expected they dont ahve it and cant get it ....so what is the point of having these Part numbers who do i give them to to get the parts

[420sx]

i just called the dealer and as expected they dont ahve it and cant get it ....so what is the point of having these Part numbers who do i give them to to get the parts

so you can go on ebay and buy his. :ugh:

nobody in US will get them for you at the dealership. only special order from Japan. this been covered every other month

[Fastimport]

Thank you 420sx !
I appreciate the recommendation.
First nice thing that you have said all day. :kiss:

[420sx]

Thank you 420sx !
I appreciate the recommendation.
First nice thing that you have said all day. :kiss:

http://community.allhiphop.com/images/smilies/stfu.gif

[Fastimport]

Vodka,
A waste of good french frys ! :naughty:

[MakotoS13]

i'd drive to san antonio for a good complete S15 diff assembly. if you have the goods stop stirring up trouble because as it stands thus far i would not purchase from you online based on your previous posts in this thread. i WOULD buy in cash in person, however, because then i'd have a face to match with a beatdown should i get ripped off.

got diffs? good for you. advertise it the right ways ya might actually sell some product.

[TheTimanator]

Thelinja, Sykikchimp, have you guys noticed the 10% reduction in gearing? According to most programs, that differential costs you .2 seconds 0-60, and crossing the 1/4 at the same time, about a mile an hour slower. Your thoughts?
-Jeff
can anybody give some more insight on this??

also, can i assume the S15 HLSD fits in the open diff pumpkin?

btw, fastimport...your ebay auction is really cheesy :mepoke: it reads like something a used car salesman or infomercial would say.

[wootwoot]

^^^ he was saying if you used the s15 r&p thats what would happen. Yes it fits in the open pumpkin. There is one thing I did not see discussed in this thread; The ring gear bolts on the s15diff are slightly larger than the holes for s13/s14 diff. You can go ahead and not use anything and allow the slight amount of play or you can use a small easy to make shim out of brass or something soft. Dimensions are ID 15/64'', OD .520-.518'', length .40''. Extremly easy to make, I'm going to be having a batch made up soon so I can install mine in a dialed fashion. Hit me up if you need some, I can probably work it out, ya know, FL boys and shit. Now I have a question, how many bolts on the ring gear?...

Hey 420sx/FastImport. You guys can fight all you want but I want to let you know that my dick is way bigger than both of yours =)

[420sx]

Hey 420sx/FastImport. You guys can fight all you want but I want to let you know that my dick is way bigger than both of yours =)

thats a statement alright. its not a fact though. a fact would be my dick even bigger :x:

[theicecreamdan]

This thread used to be useful, but it seems 90% of threads started in late 2004 and sooner are crap, and in an effort to create more crap people went back into time and crapified a useful thread.

[tastyratz]

Sykik, did you end up ever doing the writeup? There was the quickefied writeup but something not as quick and dirty would be nice. This is great info id love to see someone delete all the useless posts and clean it up

[MakotoS13]

if you had searched you'd have found this:

http://www.zilvia.net/f/showthread.php?t=89181&highlight=S15+HLSD

i would know cause i WROTE it.

BTW the guy that's selling these in san antonio is a VERY good seller and i recommend him to everybody. i prolly paid a bit more for peace of mind but its worth it. the hlsd owns all.

[tastyratz]

lol yea you have a point. ive sifted through stuff on this for awhile but your post i s fairly recent and i must have passed over it. you win. thanks for the link though man...awesome job
oh and : 9- DO NOT LET THE PUMPKIN FALL ON YOUR HEAD. IT HURTS... A LOT
you wouldnt have made that mistake did you man? lol

[wootwoot]

I got mine from the guy in SanAntonio off of Ebay, super dialed seller. It got here three days after I paid so that mean he shipped day of payment.
he doesnt have any up for sale right now but here is his feedback page
http://feedback.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewFeedback&userid=mx83*gx81&frm=1728

[Silvia240sxxx]

I'm interested in purchasing one of those HLSD's....hmmmmm

[axiomatik]

^^^^
Wow, that's a useful post. (So is mine)

[MakotoS13]

I got mine from the guy in SanAntonio off of Ebay, super dialed seller. It got here three days after I paid so that mean he shipped day of payment.
he doesnt have any up for sale right now but here is his feedback page
http://feedback.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewFeedback&userid=mx83*gx81&frm=1728

thats the guy i got mine from. i got it the very next day due to my proximity to san antonio. he's reputable and its worth every penny i spent on it.

[thelinja]

Wow, I remember this thread back in the day. $700 for the S15 diff??!!!??

:rofl: :rofl: :rofl:

I got mine with shipping and all for less than half of that. :rofl:

[Eternal_240Sx]

Wow, I remember this thread back in the day. $700 for the S15 diff??!!!??

:rofl: :rofl: :rofl:

I got mine with shipping and all for less than half of that. :rofl:

With output shafts too? where did you get it?

[wootwoot]

He is talking about a long time ago. When I first started looking at s13 sr20det front clips they were 1800 dollars.....Good luck finding a motorset for that much nowdays

[thelinja]

With output shafts too? where did you get it?
yes, with output shafts, I got it from JapAndy on Ebay