S13 or S14

[ca18guy]

Can't remember this ever being asked and I was curious cause for the massive amounts of S13's sold compared to S14's it seems that there more S14 people on here. So which one do you own (notice I said OWN not WANT or I'M GONNA BUY SOON) Also no need to debate which one's better, we all know the S13's better :biggrin:

So I'm one vote in the S13 ownage column

(Edited by ca18guy at 9<img src="http://www.zilvia.net/f/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/wow.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=':0'>7 am on Dec. 23, 2001)

[AceInHole]

I went from the S13 to the S14. &nbsp;Since I consider that an upgrade, it's pretty #### obvious the S14 is better <img src="http://www.zilvia.net/f/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/tounge.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=':p'>

S14 ownz j00 LoL

[iggy]

s13's are better cause i own one! :biggrin:

[dave2u]

s14.

I think it all depends what the owner does with it that determines whether its better or not.

[my240likenoother]

hhmmm lets seee i have a............

[DSC]

s14 here

[tnord]

98 S14-----best one around

[transient]

s13

Personally, I like the s13 the best, but I wouldn't mind having a new silvia varietta, hehehe

[Archangel]

s14 (98)
I waited a couple of months (driving a crappy old Chevy Lumina with transmission problems during that time) to find a good 97/98 s14, when some one down my street had a 92 s13 for sale the whole time.
MMM, which one do I like better ..... ? &nbsp;:biggrin:

[NiNJA]

S14 (95).....

[BadMoJo]

S14

da s13 89 coupe very rare <img src="http://www.zilvia.net/f/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/wink.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=';)'> in the us at least more fb i see

[Zenki Two40]

96 S14, don't hate the 96 :biggrin:

[dmaestro]

S13-4-Life <img src="http://www.zilvia.net/f/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/biggrin.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=':D'>

[teamcapsule]

1995 S14 yeah baby YEAH <img src="http://www.zilvia.net/f/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/biggrin.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=':D'>

wake up people -- hatchbacks rule.. :)

[nismo270r]

Bah! S14 all the way Mikey!!!!! :biggrin:

S14 is too different for my tastes.. the interior doors and windows sit higher and its visibility is sorta reduced.. the car is heavier and harder to throw around.

Although, I am sure all of that stuff is good.. because the car is obviously more solid. &nbsp;In an accident, I am sure the S14 is stronger.. handling wise, I know its less quirky. &nbsp;But still, there is a certain seat of your pants feel that only an S13 has.

Besides, its gangsta'.. :) &nbsp;I've always had a liking for hatches..

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Bah! S14 all the way Mikey!!!!! :biggrin:</td></tr></table><span id='postcolor'>

[AceInHole]

my hockey equipment definitely fit better in the hatch..... and the S13... you could just throw it around. &nbsp;the S14 feels like a more mature car, and it's grown on me. &nbsp;just get both, and have the best of both worlds <img src="http://www.zilvia.net/f/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/tounge.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=':p'>

Having the *BEST* of both worlds would mean having a Lexus SC and dropping in a Supra-TT motor with Supra-TT brakes.

=)

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my hockey equipment definitely fit better in the hatch..... and the S13... you could just throw it around. the S14 feels like a more mature car, and it's grown on me. just get both, and have the best of both worlds <img src="http://www.zilvia.net/f/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/tounge.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=':p'></td></tr></table><span id='postcolor'>

[AceInHole]

</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote </td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">Quote: from old s13 on 5:47 pm on Dec. 23, 2001
Having the *BEST* of both worlds would mean having a Lexus SC and dropping in a Supra-TT motor with Supra-TT brakes.

=)

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my hockey equipment definitely fit better in the hatch..... and the S13... you could just throw it around. the S14 feels like a more mature car, and it's grown on me. just get both, and have the best of both worlds <img src="http://www.zilvia.net/f/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/tounge.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=':p'></td></tr></table><span id='postcolor'></td></tr></table><span id='postcolor'>
don't people do that with SC300's???

[Kid Zelda]

Me ! S13 fastback..... hands down the best looking IMHO

(Edited by Kid Zelda at 6:49 pm on Dec. 23, 2001)

[my240likenoother]

close between the s14 and s13







but the s13 is the best IMO &nbsp;

[nismo270r]

Yeah... www.turbolexus.com That's Clint's ride...765 RWHP with a built up Supra TT motor and NOS...I'm not sure if his videos are on there, but OMG...BADASS CAR!!

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Having the *BEST* of both worlds would mean having a Lexus SC and dropping in a Supra-TT motor with Supra-TT brakes.

=)

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my hockey equipment definitely fit better in the hatch..... and the S13... you could just throw it around. the S14 feels like a more mature car, and it's grown on me. just get both, and have the best of both worlds <img src="http://www.zilvia.net/f/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/tounge.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=':p'></td></tr></table><span id='postcolor'></td></tr></table><span id='postcolor'>
don't people do that with SC300's???
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[nguyen]

95 s14 with the front end converted and everything else too

[KoukiS14]

Had a 92 S13... Now I have a 97 LE. . both were LEs actually hehe. .

After evaluation, I much prefer my S14. . it feels more refined and less ready to fall to shit like my S13 did (but that was just old age)... I mean, if my S13 was a human, it was so old it's balls would be hanging to its knees!!

But. . if I had both cars in same shape, and same year (97 180sx with KA hehe) &nbsp;shit I dunno I'm going to sleep now.

-Rob

[SRskillaDET]

'91 s13
best cam (right s13grl?) &nbsp;
s13s look great, they have a much more edgy feel, and most importantly they have the best price

[HaLo]

'93 S13 LE here...

like it a lot.
I personnally think it's the nicest, but it's a question of tastes.

[Drifting Ricer]

Hmm s14 here (95). Best stock car in the world. .LOL.

[my240likenoother]

dead tie right now between the s13 and s14 &nbsp;




comeon s13 owners lets hear ya

[silviaguy]

S14 here also....

[burgy240]

1995 s14 se......believe it!
<a href="http://community.webshots.com/album/26640157hdWpKSmFQy" target='_blank'>http://community.webshots.com/album/26640157hdWpKSmFQy</a>

(Edited by burgy240 at 10:15 pm on Jan. 15, 2002)

[Zenki Two40]

uh oh, looks like the grannies r driving the s13's n all the cool ppl that mod their 240's have s14's since we're ahead :biggrin:

1989 S13 Coupe

[zephyr]

s13 fastback
s14's arent really sports cars imho

[Zenki Two40]

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s14's arent really sports cars imho</td></tr></table><span id='postcolor'>
what?!? okay, guess that's ur opinion. skylines look like 240's n i've heard ppl say gt-r's aren't &quot;sports cars,&quot; so i'll just leave that alone.

[DragonReborn214]

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s13 fastback
s14's arent really sports cars imho
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Yeah, and neither are skylines, which have almost the same bodies. Sheesh.

1995 S14 btw.

[Zemus]

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wake up people -- hatchbacks rule.. <img src="http://www.zilvia.net/f/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/smile.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=':)'>
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#### STRAIT!

[91CRXsiR]

RPS13

s14 4 LIFEEEEEE

[S14KAT]

Hello?? &nbsp;Check out my name.....lol &nbsp;S14 baby!

[sykikchimp]

Had a 90' buying a 91' &nbsp;Love the hatchback! &nbsp;I think the coupes are hideous though.

coupes are only hideous cause in the us they swapped them to &nbsp;one-vias (180sx front silvia rear)

[misnomer]

Chaulk up two for the s13 hatch. My sister's vote on her '89 SE and mine on my '92 SE. The early 90s hatchbacks are hands down the sexiest 240s made. Ever. End of report.

http://indigo.wox.org/~indigo/240sx/objects/rear75.jpg

[SILVER97LE]

'97 S14 - Had a S13, but never going back!!!

[DjBaMBaM]

It seems pretty obviosu that the concensus here is that if you owned an S13 and then bought an S14, that you loved the #### outta your new S14. Yes...No? MAybe so? <img src="http://www.zilvia.net/f/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/wink.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=';)'>

[LanceS13]

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s13 fastback
s14's arent really sports cars imho
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Yeah, and neither are skylines, which have almost the same bodies. Sheesh.

1995 S14 btw.
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Skylines aren't sports cars...they're family sedans. &nbsp;Even the GT-R isn't a sports car...it's a Grand Tourer. <img src="http://www.zilvia.net/f/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/smile.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=':)'>

S13's rule! :biggrin:

[240meowth]

have a sexy 93 coupe, thinking about trading for a 95 with some money, since the 95 coupe that don't got revrese and it's auto, and it's got dent in the passanger side finder and it pretty much needs a new rear bumper, and the winshield is carcked......

wise trade?

97 s14 TURBO

[fridexter]

................

[S14 Drgn]

s13's cool, but I just love my car, so..........

S14

[DjBaMBaM]

Why do people liek the S13 som cu? IMO I don't liekt he lights. Is there anyway to make them not the popup kind? Other than that, I would get an S13 :biggrin:.

[BlankFlip]

any volunteers to count and see which has more so far <img src="http://www.zilvia.net/f/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/smile.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=':)'> ?

[ca18guy]

I might be wrong in my counting but it's.....

S13-17
S14-21

Remember this is &quot;what car you have&quot; not which one you prefer or want. I'm surprised, with the sheer amount of more S13's having been sold over the amount of S14's I was expexcting a S13 majority <img src="http://www.zilvia.net/f/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/sad.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=':('>

[twofortysx]

I really like all of the 240's. &nbsp;I don't understand why so many people hate the coupe. &nbsp;I find the convertible rather nice. &nbsp;I really like the hatches too, there are some NICE ones on this board.

But, when forced to choose (as I was in May of last year when I bought my car), it would be the 97/98 s14. &nbsp;I love the shark eyes and lines of the s14. &nbsp;

[BlankFlip]

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I might be wrong in my counting but it's.....

S13-17
S14-21

Remember this is &quot;what car you have&quot; not which one you prefer or want. I'm surprised, with the sheer amount of more S13's having been sold over the amount of S14's I was expexcting a S13 majority <img src="http://www.zilvia.net/f/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/sad.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=':('>
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i thought so too based on these stats:

S13 SOHC - 128,700
S13 DOHC - 83,038
S13 convertible - 1,167
S14 - 32,448
S14a - 5,833

that's 212,095 s13's ever made vs. 38,281 s14's produced. so that means for every s14 there is, there should be 5-6 more s13's around.

[The Punk Genius]

I have to agree with aceinthehole on the hockey equiptment aspect, as mine takes up the whole back seat of my S-14. But a good friend of our family owns a S-13, and I must say I like the feel of the S-14 better.

[twofortysx]

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I might be wrong in my counting but it's.....

S13-17
S14-21

Remember this is &quot;what car you have&quot; not which one you prefer or want. I'm surprised, with the sheer amount of more S13's having been sold over the amount of S14's I was expexcting a S13 majority <img src="http://www.zilvia.net/f/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/sad.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=':('>
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i thought so too based on these stats:

S13 SOHC - 128,700
S13 DOHC - 83,038
S13 convertible - 1,167
S14 - 32,448
S14a - 5,833

that's 212,095 s13's ever made vs. 38,281 s14's produced. so that means for every s14 there is, there should be 5-6 more s13's around.
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what exactly is the difference between the s14 and the s14a?

:confused:

[BlankFlip]

i didn't want to quote that long crap n take up space so i'm just answering ur q. here twofortysx. so here it is:

s14 &nbsp; - 95-96 240sx's
s14a - 97-98 240sx's

[twofortysx]

</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote </td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">Quote: from BlankFlip on 4<img src="http://www.zilvia.net/f/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/wow.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=':0'>9 pm on Jan. 15, 2002
i didn't want to quote that long crap n take up space so i'm just answering ur q. here twofortysx. so here it is:

s14 - 95-96 240sx's
s14a - 97-98 240sx's</td></tr></table><span id='postcolor'>

oooh. &nbsp;Ok, I didn't even realize they named them like that. &nbsp;So, instead of an s14, I have an s14a..

I appreciate it, blank.

- Matt

[BlankFlip]

it's debatable on the exact term for the 97-98's, but if u see s14 &amp; s14a or s14a &amp; s14b together then the 97-98's would always come second. they r also referred to as s14mc, minor change or something similar.

[FastNissan]

S13 Coupe

[West]

S13 Coupe for me.

I have owned each of the 240SX's too.

Two Hatchs, One s14, and now a s13 coupe.

[hookedup240]

I own a phat 91 s13 fb, i will have pics up this weekend probably saturday night, they will be posted, pics of my system, interior, all my neons, and everything else

[drift freaq]

91 s13 hatch here and yes hatchs and s13's rule . I am right &nbsp;there with kid zelda and olds13. &nbsp;s13 hatchs are real sports cars
IMHO
If you want a coupe buy a S14

[240sxtreme]

92 s13 coupe

[xNotoriousGQx]

I have a 97 240sx but I want to get rid of it. I want a the older 240sx s13! Anyone want to trade?

[gman240]

1989 S13

[drifting240sx]

i got myself a s13.

[AceInHole]

</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote </td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">Quote: from LanceS13 on 9:44 am on Jan. 15, 2002
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s13 fastback
s14's arent really sports cars imho
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Yeah, and neither are skylines, which have almost the same bodies. Sheesh.

1995 S14 btw.
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Skylines aren't sports cars...they're family sedans. Even the GT-R isn't a sports car...it's a Grand Tourer. <img src="http://www.zilvia.net/f/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/smile.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=':)'>

S13's rule! :biggrin:
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so wait... what about S14's make them non-sports cars?? they don't have pop ups and they don't have a hatch?? what about one-via's, sil-eighty's, and silvias?? &nbsp;so in other words, 3/4 of s13 models aren't sports cars... ooooooh. &nbsp;and all those people that wanna have &quot;Silvia&quot; emblems are really just getting away from the sports car image. &nbsp;I see.... <img src="http://www.zilvia.net/f/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/tounge.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=':p'>

Having owned both... the S14 is just better.

[Ni5mo180SX]

lol hey we're in this together againist the riced out hondas and other assortment of posers. I have a 90 fastback though. But if it comes down to it id say the S13 is a better track car then the S14 due to its lighter weight and its more compact design. Not to mention that Nissan engineers admitted to the fact that the S14 was made with more consideration towards the US market and that it had more of a &quot;luxury&quot; element to it then the S13. The S15 was based very closely on the S13 to bring it back to its pure sport car roots. S14 owners dont take this the wrong way, both S13s and S14s are sick and Id easily choose them over any car on the market today (besides maybe a FD3S). Its all about FR turbo cars.

[zephyr]

I just think that in the eyes of a common person, the standard sports car image fits cars like (blech) mustangs, cameros, 180sx, s13 fastbacks, rx7s etc. Its not anything to do headlights or rear ends, its just the total composition of the car and the body lines. When i say s14's aren't sports cars what I mean is that they don't look like sports cars. S14s and silvias are in the same category(lookswise, not performance) as m3's and evo's and gt-r's....as well as preludes, civics and accords.
and considering s13's and s14's have the exact same engine looks are the only difference between them

(Edited by zephyr at 11:52 pm on Jan. 15, 2002)

[AceInHole]

LoL... speedvision had a history of BMW this morning. &nbsp;If anyone says the M3 isn't a sports car... they probably have an SUV up their ass.
Any car that started out with a 1.6L derrived from an F1 car can be pretty much summed up as &quot;nasty&quot; (just like FJ powered Skylines!! Heh)

[mbmbmb23]

1993 base model hatchback, 5 speed.

[mike240]

S13 hatchback all the way!!!! &nbsp;They are more solid and tossable. &nbsp;I see a helluva lot more 180sx style drift racers over here than I do S14 Sylvias (Okinawa) so you do the math. &nbsp;

Mike240 90 S13 Fastback

[Ni5mo180SX]

I dont think the Skylines considered a &quot;Grand Tourer&quot;

[MK]

Hah, the S14 didnt sell for a lot of reasons and none of them where good, too heavy, not as nice looking and power to weight ratio was awful.

JDM PS13 Series II Silvia

[rancid240]

1990 s13 hatchback, 62K miles...dont you guys just love driving around all day, seeing like 30 civics, and never another 240sx....its why i bought it.

[sexy240]

97 s14 -
who can deny? &nbsp;

s14 are better looking
dont come with the SOHC
Have a stiffer chasis
dont come with ugly pop-up lights
and wern't available in an ugly probe looking hatch

coupes rule! &nbsp;

s15 are the best but I cant get one of those! &nbsp;

[LanceS13]

</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote </td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">Quote: from Ni5mo180SX on 12:56 am on Jan. 17, 2002
I dont think the Skylines considered a &quot;Grand Tourer&quot;
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Then where do they get GT-R from?
Besides, the lines are blurred between &nbsp;Sportscar and Grand Tourer in many cases. &nbsp;I'm allowed to run STS in the SCCA b/c they don't considere my car a sportscar...based soley on the fact that it has a back seat. &nbsp;I never said the S14 is a coupe or a GT. &nbsp;It's just a sports car to me. &nbsp;My defining lines are:
-non-existent or diminutive back seat=sportscar (240SX, Miata, Prelude)
-semi-luxury sporty coupe/sedan=grand tourer (M3, GTR, Lancer EVO, WRX)

[fadenb]

95 S14 INTAKE,HEADERS,EXAUST,BILL GUDE CAMS (HIGHLY RECOMENDED) ROLLING ON 18'S AND DROPED. PLAN TO ADD BILL GUDE HEAD PKG.

[WhiteS13]

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I have a 97 240sx but I want to get rid of it. I want a the older 240sx s13! Anyone want to trade?
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I was in the same bind as you. Bought a 98 S14 only 2 weeks ago, and picked up my S13 today, but actually have both sitting in my garage right now. I already have people lined up to buy the S14 before I decide to give it to the dealer.

S13 baby! <img src="http://www.zilvia.net/f/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/biggrin.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=':D'>



(Edited by WhiteS13 at 8:37 pm on Jan. 16, 2002)

97 S14

[zephyr]

</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote </td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">Quote: from AceInHole on 12<img src="http://www.zilvia.net/f/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/wow.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=':0'>1 am on Jan. 16, 2002
LoL... speedvision had a history of BMW this morning. If anyone says the M3 isn't a sports car... they probably have an SUV up their ass.
Any car that started out with a 1.6L derrived from an F1 car can be pretty much summed up as &quot;nasty&quot; (just like FJ powered Skylines!! Heh)
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to clear things up i am talking only about looks, as in body lines/body style, not speed and engine
what im saying is that if you go only by engine you'd have to count that nasty ass turbo minivan as a sports car...not to say that an m3 doesnt look better
seeing that we are, in fact comparing the s13 to the s14 which have the exact same engine, looks are the only thing which make them different
As i said before...

[ffdet]

s13 hatch.. the only style 240 IMO <img src="http://www.zilvia.net/f/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/wink.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=';)'>

[Freak Leash 240]

98 S14

[allmotorKA]

89 S13 Hatch

[240sxracer]

90 s-13 hb

[AceInHole]

.....and the only thing close to a Silvia in america is the S14....

[thewholefnshow]

S14.... it is just to beautiful. That's why I got one, fell in love with the look, then found out it was cooler than anything... oh and initial d helped too.

[Bomix]

95 240sx, yeah i have to say, i was about to get a 2.5RS, but it was just the fact of having an uncommon car, and a sleek black car that made me want it soo bad, paid too much for mine. &nbsp;oh well i gots my baby. &nbsp;

(Yarde Yare,)

(Edited by Bomix at 2:45 pm on Jan. 17, 2002)

[Ni5mo180SX]

</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote </td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">Quote: from sexy240 on 12:44 am on Jan. 17, 2002
97 s14 -
who can deny?

s14 are better looking
dont come with the SOHC
Have a stiffer chasis
dont come with ugly pop-up lights
and wern't available in an ugly probe looking hatch

coupes rule!

s15 are the best but I cant get one of those!
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You just saying that showed me what an idiot you are. The SOHCs an excellent motor too and my SOHC would probably blow your DOHC out of the water as im sure many other SOHC owners with decent tuning can too. Even if it does have a stiffer chassis (which im not sure is true or not) the S13 hatch can pull .88g's stock which is more then the S14. All your complaints are about the looks. Thats a perfect sign of someone thats inexp'd in the 240. All the 240s looked great, with smooth clean lines, sport stying that kept up with its age.

[Ni5mo180SX]

and notice how many S14 owners who have driven or own another S13 prefer the S13

[duderiffic]

1997-1998 S14 is the only way to be!!!

&lt;-- 1998 240SX SE bone stock! (Except Audio) &nbsp;And loving it!

[twofortysx]

I have an interesting question..I won't direct it at anyone in particular and I hope no one takes offense to it. &nbsp;If you guys look at the topic, it says &quot;S13 or S14&quot; and the description says &quot;what do you have?&quot;. &nbsp;

Instead of us just posting what we have, a lot of us (ie: not all) seem to be bashing the other models in the process. &nbsp;Personally, I am relatively new to this board and 240's in general (Having purchased my first 240 in May of '01) but truthfully I like all the models, which is exactly what my original post states.

Why do we have to bash each others cars? &nbsp;The main thing I love about 240 owners and boards in general is that they seem to be so friendly and knowledgable not just to 240 owners but to owners of other brands/models as well. &nbsp;

I guess what I'm trying to get at is..let's not bash each others cars, regardless of what model/year it is. &nbsp;When it comes down to it, we still all love 240's and Nissan, which is what brought us here in the first place.

- Matt

[AceInHole]

</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote </td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">Quote: from Ni5mo180SX on 11:32 am on Jan. 18, 2002
and notice how many S14 owners who have driven or own another S13 prefer the S13
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well, I went from the S13 to the S14.....

[thewholefnshow]

You know, I don't care what kind you got. Ever since I have bought my car, it has been a love in with 240 owners.... I pull into a gas station where there is another 240, and rest assured we both circle each others cars, and talk for like 5 minutes, then race off together. All the time. That might be what I like best about the car. I never drove the s13. I love my s14. It has the best lines of any car ever, other than maybe the s15.... but I like my taillights better... so you know. I got no beef with people. or there cars, you drive a 240, and you are ok with me... unless it is rusted and not taken car of and you bought it cause it was cute, then never changed the oil for 30k and wonder why it breaks down.... I will run you over... <img src="http://www.zilvia.net/f/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/smile.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=':)'> Love your 240!

[BlankFlip]

some years from now the s14's will cost just as much as the s13's do now n a lot of ppl w/ s13's might be s14 owners n all of a sudden have a change of opinion. i like them both though for slightly different reasons. i wanna own an s13 along w/ my s14 one day, don't care if it's h/b or coupe really.

[thewholefnshow]

I don't think that will happen for 1 reason... there are not nearly as many s14s as there are s13s... you can go anywhere in canada and see them... especially canada... there are 100's and i saw 1, count it one s14 coupe the whole time I was there. That is the other thing that I love about the s14, they are exlusive, you don't see them everyday. They are totally one of a kind... anyone sees my gold 240 in montreal, they know its me. no questions asked.

[whateverjames]

</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote </td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">Quote: from Ni5mo180SX on 12:29 pm on Jan. 18, 2002
</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote </td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">Quote: from sexy240 on 12:44 am on Jan. 17, 2002
97 s14 -
who can deny?

s14 are better looking
dont come with the SOHC
Have a stiffer chasis
dont come with ugly pop-up lights
and wern't available in an ugly probe looking hatch

coupes rule!

s15 are the best but I cant get one of those!
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You just saying that showed me what an idiot you are. The SOHCs an excellent motor too and my SOHC would probably blow your DOHC out of the water as im sure many other SOHC owners with decent tuning can too. Even if it does have a stiffer chassis (which im not sure is true or not) the S13 hatch can pull .88g's stock which is more then the S14. All your complaints are about the looks. Thats a perfect sign of someone thats inexp'd in the 240. All the 240s looked great, with smooth clean lines, sport stying that kept up with its age.
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you tell em nismo. if i had a dollar for every time i've beaten a DOHC i'd have.....ok only $8 but still. even the magazines said there was hardly any difference and they don't know where the 15 extra horsepower went but it didn't go in the motor. haha. i'm sure it's somewhat superior in someways but once you fix them up they can run just as well once ported and polished. a lot of racers prefer the SOHC. &nbsp;obviously sexy240 doesn't know what they're talking about.

[AceInHole]

basically... sticking the N/A route gives you the option for side draft carbs that bolt right on to the SOHC head. &nbsp;Stuff like that not being available for the DOHC plays a big role in it, IMO. &nbsp;

[Ni5mo180SX]

ok, in case that comment directed at &quot;no one in specific&quot; was meant for me, I never started this flame war between the S13 and S14 nor did I add on to it. If you look at my earlier post I said it was stupid to talk shit on either the S13 or 14. I was just setting someone ignorent, towards 240's straight. And as far as the side draft carbs playing a big role, I dont really follow. I can honestly say in the 2 and half years I owned my 240 I never lost to a NA DOHC and I didnt have carbs on mine. Im not talking about on a max potential basis.

[MyFirst240SX]

I like my little S13 FB bc one day i want it to look like this
http://w1.igateway.com/clients....on=form (http://w1.igateway.com/clients1/tc/store/webdata_IP.cgi?fid=1005878653&query=pagenum%3D1%26cgifunction%3DSearch%26Categor y%3Dnissan%2520240sx%26Department%3Dbody&cgifunction=form)

[MyFirst240SX]

oh yeah Pop up lights rule!!!(until one dies and you have lazy eye)

[Ni5mo180SX]

Yea and to the guy bitching about the pop up lights, I wonder what he thinks about the NSX, RX7, Diablo, F355 etc.

[ar3na]

oh its a simple as this people i dont knwo if u us people ahve hot 4's over ther but its a mag anw i would liek to take the time to read or should i say write to u what was said in there.

According to &quot;John Tang&quot; the owner of speedwork the australian no.1 jun dealer, nissan silvia s13 is a more logical choice than a s14 for a PERFORMANCE build-up. &quot;to begin with you can buy a s13 for less money than a s14. the s13 weighs less and has a shorter wheelbase. so its basic handling is better than the s14 too. The s14 is basically a look at me i ahve a nice car with a relly cool bodaykit. for a performance build-up the s14 is a stupid choice. if u look at the drift scene in japan at the moment u will see taht the s13 handles its self much better., which is why they are such a commen thing over there.&quot;

need i say more people.
the s13 is much better unless the only thing u plan on using your car for is looking good.

[kitoro]

dang it i can't say anything!

Quoted from thewholefnshow:

I don't think that will happen for 1 reason... there are not nearly as many s14s as there are s13s... you can go anywhere in canada and see them... especially canada... there are 100's and i saw 1, count it one s14 coupe the whole time I was there. That is the other thing that I love about the s14, they are exlusive, you don't see them everyday. They are totally one of a kind... anyone sees my gold 240 in montreal, they know its me. no questions asked.

--------

this is SO true
I live in calgary and we only have a FEW S14s.. like 7?? out of over 200 S13s of various shapes and forms!
elusive and exotic...


(Edited by kitoro at 11:53 pm on Jan. 18, 2002)

[duderiffic]

I don't know if any Japanese car can really be exotic, but exclusive I will go for. &nbsp;There are quite a few S14s in my town. &nbsp;I'd say at least 8 out of a population of 50,000. &nbsp;But there are only Two or Three 97-98.

As far as styling I'd rather have a late-model S13 hatchback than a 1995-1996 S14. &nbsp;Those first two years of S14 just didn't do it for me. &nbsp;I wanted a 1994 hatchback since I was 16 like 4 years ago. &nbsp;At the same time I wanted the new 97/98 240. &nbsp;A few years later after searching for almost a year I finally found my 5 speed 1998. &nbsp;

I could certainly see how owning an S13 would be more fun, as far as performance. &nbsp;But a car must also look good in my opinion, but I'm not really all about performance.

So there you go =P

Jeff
1998 S14 SE

[Ni5mo180SX]

Im pretty sure if you saw an S13 tearing it up on a track or seeing one beat an NSX at the street races in person, would be all that it takes for you to change your definition of &quot;looking good&quot;

[duderiffic]

I think that would count more for the tun quotient. &nbsp;The S13 is a good looking car. &nbsp;And was an awesome looking car 5 years ago. &nbsp;But lines date and styles change. &nbsp;I guess the lines of that car (to me) aren't timeless. &nbsp;As I'm sure in 5 years I wont think my S14 to be so cool either.

I'm just saying park two stock 240s next to each other. &nbsp;S13 &amp; Late model S14 and which looks better? &nbsp;Not to a racer or a tuner, but just to an average person (not saying that their vote counts to most) but the S14 is a better looking car. &nbsp;

[bing]

s13 coupe........... alot of response to this thread, wow, you'd think it were talking about riceboys!!!

[ar3na]

hahaha nice one bing.

[S13Grl]

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I don't know if any Japanese car can really be exotic, but exclusive I will go for. There are quite a few S14s in my town. I'd say at least 8 out of a population of 50,000. But there are only Two or Three 97-98.

As far as styling I'd rather have a late-model S13 hatchback than a 1995-1996 S14. Those first two years of S14 just didn't do it for me. I wanted a 1994 hatchback since I was 16 like 4 years ago. At the same time I wanted the new 97/98 240. A few years later after searching for almost a year I finally found my 5 speed 1998.

I could certainly see how owning an S13 would be more fun, as far as performance. But a car must also look good in my opinion, but I'm not really all about performance.

So there you go =P

Jeff
1998 S14 SE
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No such thing as a '94 Hatchback, sir.

Me... I love them all! But I owned an S13 and am on the verge of buying another one. Hatch this time. Coupes still rule, but the whole sil-eighty thing... ahhhh...

[MyFirst240SX]

I heard someone tell me on this forum that they sold S13's in japan till like 98 or something. &nbsp;They didn't sell 240's over there tho did they jsut silvias...

[S13Grl]

</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote </td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">Quote: from MyFirst240SX on 10:44 am on Jan. 19, 2002
I heard someone tell me on this forum that they sold S13's in japan till like 98 or something. They didn't sell 240's over there tho did they jsut silvias...</td></tr></table><span id='postcolor'>

Maybe the 180SX... That body style never changed, I don't think. Seriously, when did they stop making 180s?

[kitoro]

97 i think.
the last cule model was the TypeX

[twofortysx]

</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote </td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">Quote: from Ni5mo180SX on 9:29 pm on Jan. 18, 2002
ok, in case that comment directed at &quot;no one in specific&quot; was meant for me, I never started this flame war between the S13 and S14 nor did I add on to it. If you look at my earlier post I said it was stupid to talk shit on either the S13 or 14. I was just setting someone ignorent, towards 240's straight. And as far as the side draft carbs playing a big role, I dont really follow. I can honestly say in the 2 and half years I owned my 240 I never lost to a NA DOHC and I didnt have carbs on mine. Im not talking about on a max potential basis.
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It wasn't directed at you, like I said &quot;no one specific&quot;. &nbsp;I was just asking why we have to bash eachothers cars when we could be out bashing a domestic just the same <img src="http://www.zilvia.net/f/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/smile.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=':)'>

[Ni5mo180SX]

I didnt really bash anyones car. The 180SX was made till 96' wasnt it? thats when they came out with the special Nismo edition. For the 180, they just had two styling updates.

[duderiffic]

S13 Girl,
&nbsp; &nbsp; Sorry I know nothing about S13s, what years were the hatchbacks made?

Jeff

[drift freaq]

Hatchbacks were sold here in the states from 89-93. 180sx 's(hatchbacks with SR20DET's) i.e. RPS13's were sold in Japan till late 98 They were still on listed on Nissan Japans website as a production vehicle in the year 2000. after that Nissan removed them from their website.
they body design of the Hatchback is not really all that dated either it is actually still a very current design . Actually it looks better than a lot of the current designs coming out of most of the manufacturers. &nbsp;New Celica's are just butt ugly . Most new Mitsu's don't look good either. WRX's are ok .
S14's look nice for a coupe. s13 hatchs look like what they are sport cars.

[lilredstiffy]

I like all the 240s, personally. Just recently got mine a couple months ago, was forced to pick between a 93 se hatch w/ 5spd or a 98 se w/ auto.

It was kind of a tough choice, because i do kind of love the angry eyed headlights in a way, but then again i do love the later s13 hatches. What it came down to was a) the manual tranny and b)i'm getting basically almost the same car for $7000 less.

I love my s13, but the s14a are probably my favorite looker just cause of the headlamps and the kind of supra style tails. I'm not too big on the older s13s with the nostrils and the 95-96 headlamps.

[thewholefnshow]

94 was the year that all they made was that awful convertable right? I am not sure, but I think I am right...? Anyone else know for sure... and that is the worst 240 ever...

[tnord]

98se 5sp/lsd
i'm one of the probably 1000 or so in the country to have one, considering i wasn't even looking to buy a 240 when i stumbled upon my car at a nissan dealer i am very lucky, especially since i work at a dealership and they bought it for me and i picked it up for 15,500 and the car only had 42,000 miles, i'm planning on holding on to the car for a while because it is so rare, who knows, i may never sell it

[240 2NR]

Just had to rock the vote for my S13 fastback. &nbsp;

I really wanted a black or white 97-98 S14, but now that I have my S13 and am getting ready to autocross, I'm glad I got it. &nbsp;Just HATE those #### automatic seatbelts. &nbsp;

[my240likenoother]

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I like all the 240s, personally. Just recently got mine a couple months ago, was forced to pick between a 93 se hatch w/ 5spd or a 98 se w/ auto.

It was kind of a tough choice, because i do kind of love the angry eyed headlights in a way, but then again i do love the later s13 hatches. What it came down to was a) the manual tranny and b)i'm getting basically almost the same car for $7000 less.

I love my s13, but the s14a are probably my favorite looker just cause of the headlamps and the kind of supra style tails. I'm not too big on the older s13s with the nostrils and the 95-96 headlamps.
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nostrils r the shit
thats why i got my bumber cause of the nostrils