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Dousan_PG
12-23-2003, 09:38 AM
i know sykikchimp will like this, be sure and check the full album in the lower link to see rough measurements. subframe goes on very soon :)

well, the subframe wont go on yet
i'm waiting on a few parts:

s14 rear uprights (have a full set and 1 extra right coming from some very generous forum members here on Freshalloy--THANKS)
SPLParts.com RUCA--for s13
SPLParts.com Toe link---for s14
SPLparts.com forward link--for s14
Z32 rear calipers (getting today)
Z32 drum setup (free of cost: from Full Speed Performance in Santa Cruz, CA, good friends)
Z32 MC

I got the s14 rear sway bar from Hypercarrots (thanks!)

one question: i can get a s14 JDM rear HICAS sway bar, does anyone know if that's thicker then the USDM s14 rear sway? ill measuer it soon to make sure...i didnt think of it till right now. :grin:
if you say hicas s14s dont exist, pls examine this:
http://www.imagestation.com/picture/sraid94/pdafa37646f5d2e6b8f495fb75b5d2abe/fa393b01.jpg

ok onto the pics
ALBUM HERE with bigger pics and rough measurements:
http://www.imagestation.com/album/?id=4288315147


took a few over weekend, just 1/2 assed and fast..didnt feel like standing out in the misty weather nor in the mood to do this either. estimates are rough so please dont take it as bible. you can see how the s15 subfrme compares w/ the s13 subframe

thanks to danny for the help :)

s13 subframe. old and weathered but still good. one of our 3 extras w/ all the fixins
http://www.imagestation.com/picture/sraid94/pb14c328f40e5a0e66de2297db3dbe33e/fa394a35.jpg

s15 subframe:
http://www.imagestation.com/picture/sraid94/p3c933e94dfcee9670f2f6df447ef70ed/fa3940c2.jpg

s15 diff rear mounting. look at the reinforcement up top...nice!
http://www.imagestation.com/picture/sraid94/pce2765f3ba91b885a5aa3714d77a8c16/fa394385.jpg

this is for the..driver side (US) forward link
http://www.imagestation.com/picture/sraid94/p94b3cf168b30d408f46f97a3f7fc11b1/fa394322.jpg

this is the RLCA...sorry for poor quailty. also i didnt have the mood to remove a s13 RLCA to compare.
http://www.imagestation.com/picture/sraid94/pe7ce4a56364a86030ead8861efd1f1e6/fa393e91.jpg
http://www.imagestation.com/picture/sraid94/pb4bb4fe144e6347ce4b9265594499651/fa393e51.jpg
http://www.imagestation.com/picture/sraid94/p26d4f4989bd8e8754a706d88e6b7db74/fa393e01.jpg
http://www.imagestation.com/picture/sraid94/p537593c18c2c9595607e118e5af36da5/fa393dd0.jpg
http://www.imagestation.com/picture/sraid94/p2de7de1c2ef04485db31d25c7f5c92fe/fa393d92.jpg


and here's the s13 RLCA
http://www.imagestation.com/picture/sraid94/p263d78ce4c36b7cab156f57be8f83d98/fa39451d.jpg

various differences:
http://www.imagestation.com/picture/sraid94/p1da21c3d71da38a4858f89d8b4dc1343/fa393eee.jpg
http://www.imagestation.com/picture/sraid94/p2689370e71063b8be76909c60bf6925d/fa394050.jpg
http://www.imagestation.com/picture/sraid94/p6e554a8cbfec613ad3a0ce7e33f00768/fa3941c9.jpg
http://www.imagestation.com/picture/sraid94/p0ae355c9c9fc82edffc907b3868010c3/fa39426d.jpg

more pics are in this thread, and if you wondering WHY then read this thread too:
click this link...s15 subframe on s13 chassis (http://forums.freshalloy.com/ubbthreads/showflat.php?Cat=&Board=UBB9&Number=67566125&Forum=UBB9&Words=s15%20subframe&Match=Entire%20Phrase&Searchpage=1&Limit=25&Old=6months&Main=67566125&Search=true#Post67566125)

ill finish this writeup when the subframe goes on

ruf already put his on w/ no problems for the most part (small stuff we already knew would be a issue..sway bar specifically and a few minor details)

i hope to have it on by mid-jan before the Shine Street meet. :)

Bbandit
12-23-2003, 10:02 AM
nice aaron!
you always managed to find something that nobody has ;)

thelinja
12-23-2003, 10:09 AM
that's freakin cool. what do you plan on doing with the HLSD?

Dousan_PG
12-23-2003, 10:12 AM
there was no HLSD
just the subframe

it was free subframe, that's pretty mcuh the only reason i am doing this, i dont think i would if i had to buy the subframe.

total project cost is under $500 dollars, adj arms, brakes, labor (my own and McKinney Motorsports lift and help) and all that. Can't go wrong!



i forgot the ONE thing im waiting for is my 4.3 final gear which i'll swap in probably before the subframe swap...probably get it done by Ernie. He does it fast!

thelinja
12-23-2003, 10:15 AM
ahhh my bad. First pic threw me off. :o

Bbandit
12-23-2003, 10:55 AM
Originally posted by Dousan_PG




i forgot the ONE thing im waiting for is my 4.3 final gear which i'll swap in probably before the subframe swap...probably get it done by Ernie. He does it fast!

lmao.. you really like 4.3 final gear eh?
mine is also 4.3 (used to be yours)..
imho, 4.3 is perrrrrfect for n/a KA
but im thinking about going with 4.0 after i got this turbo project done

Dousan_PG
12-23-2003, 10:59 AM
nah, 4.3 is AWESOME in turbo
i really like it hehehehe
that's the main reason for getting it
great for drifting too, imo
no need to shift as much into 1st gear, can stay in second

i know most drift cars run 4.3s
and chris loves the 4.3 in the SIGNAL (komatsu's car) as well. :)

i cant wait to go back to 4.3
a friend in japan should have a extra one from a Skyline for me..

Red
12-23-2003, 04:32 PM
Question: How much of the S14 subframe is the same on a S15?? And would a mod like this be worth anything to a S14 guy??

Also: I sent you a PM with some questions Dousan

nurspecsil
12-24-2003, 01:26 AM
I never really thought about changing subframes and I will proably never do it but I am curious to the benefits of changing the sub frame. Is it just cuz yours is worn out or is there a real performance reason??

Sorry for the lame question.

Chad

Steeles
12-24-2003, 07:10 AM
Originally posted by Dousan_PG
nah, 4.3 is AWESOME in turbo
i really like it hehehehe
that's the main reason for getting it
great for drifting too, imo
no need to shift as much into 1st gear, can stay in second

i know most drift cars run 4.3s
and chris loves the 4.3 in the SIGNAL (komatsu's car) as well. :)

i cant wait to go back to 4.3
a friend in japan should have a extra one from a Skyline for me..

I love it in mine :) really makes fisrt gear pointless... fun fun. I drive highway too much thats the only reason I consider going back to 4.08 but then I hit some sidestreets and go naaaaaaaahhhh :D

Dousan_PG
12-24-2003, 07:46 AM
Originally posted by nurspecsil
I never really thought about changing subframes and I will proably never do it but I am curious to the benefits of changing the sub frame. Is it just cuz yours is worn out or is there a real performance reason??

Sorry for the lame question.

Chad

try reading my post..you'll see i linked you to FA for info on WHY.

nurspecsil
12-24-2003, 02:03 PM
thanks for not flamin. didnt see the link when i was scrollin thru the pics.

Chad