Will Nismo GT LM4's Fit?

[AadosX]

Will these fit on a 97-98 5 lug 240SX? I can't find the offsets! I'm pretty sure these are the same rims that Nissan now sells under Nismo for the 350Z.

[Dousan_PG]

check the rays wheels website. has all the availalbe specs and sizes

[AadosX]

Are they the exact same as the TE37? If so, it looks like these Nismo wheels only come in one size, whereas the TE37's come in basically every size. And I can't figure out which size they are.

[Dousan_PG]

practice reading comprehension

[HaLo]

Notice how TE37 is 6-spoke design and LM-GT4 is 5-spoke design. ;)

[AadosX]

Wow I just noticed that. You're correct. Thanks.

[Dousan_PG]

dood
pick up the phone and make a phone call. we dont work at the dealer (though tere are 2 or 3 members who do). call our local dealer

ive seen them. they are 'safe' offsets for z33 and they look like crap. no dish at all. just flat spokes. weak.

they can odrer any size/offset you want, just lots of wait time.

[AadosX]

Will +30 work with 9.5 width in the back and +25 with 8.5 in the front? That's the best I could find on the site but I'm about to call the dealer. I've found the dealer ones for $430 a peice, I don't want to pay the order price of $550 or even more.

[AadosX]

I just got off the phone with Nissan America, they said "call your dealer we aren't trained for this info." So I called my dealer and they said "it doesn't give us a number in the catalog or anything." Damnit.

[NiteKids]

Why Aaron! Why are you pretending to not know anything and not helping this guy out? :o

[davidae86]

the LMGT4 come in different offsets.
the one listed in my hyperrev book shows the size for the S14 to be 18x8.5 +30 front and 18x9.5 +38 rear.

[NiteKids]

Okay Shit. I guess I'll help this guy out. Those sizes and width that you chose WILL work fine. But...if you are looking for the ultimte flushness that will not be the offsets to go for.

I currently run Racing Sparco's in the rear 18x9.5 with a 235 I think I forgot screched across them. I also have 2 small spacers on them. I forgot the mm of them. Anywyas it's 's roughly 30offset or 35 offset now. It's sunk like damn battle ship. Good thing they are only temporary. Anyways I'd take the offset a step down from what you were looking at.

[AadosX]

Thanks, but the thing is I'm buying these from a Nissan Dealership so I have to get the size they have. Assuming it is that size: When you say sunk like a battleship, do you mean they are really far in the wheelwell? Can I just use spacers to get them to "stick further out?

David: Would those even fit my car? From what I've been told by someone, which could be false, on a 9.5" width I need near +20, and for 8.5" I need near +30. Or are my numbers wrong?

[Steeles]

The tire rack person you talked too is a tool. ALL nissan centerbores for 5 lug cars are the exact same. 66.1mm.

[Heartwork]

my 17x9.5 +22 with 235-40-17 fit FLUSH on my rear S14...flush as in, rim lip lines up with fender and tires in the fender, stock camber...

but now my fenders are pulled, so it looks a lil sunk in, just enough room to fit my 18x10 +13 ;)

[AadosX]

So the higher the offset, the further out the rim sticks? So basically, with those Nismo's, my rim would be sticking out of the side of my car... ugly. That's another thing. I will definitely lower the car, on full coilovers, to make a 1 finger gap w/ my 18's. How will this effect my offset choices?

Thanks to all for helping a newb out! :bash:

[Dousan_PG]

Originally posted by AadosX
So the higher the offset, the further out the rim sticks? So basically, with those Nismo's, my rim would be sticking out of the side of my car... ugly. That's another thing. I will definitely lower the car, on full coilovers, to make a 1 finger gap w/ my 18's. How will this effect my offset choices?

Thanks to all for helping a newb out! :bash:

no
the higher the offset the more its SUNK into wheel wheel

the lower the offset the more it sticks out.

1 finger gap? weak

[AadosX]

Heh, what do you like? Tucked?

So can I just use spacers with the Nismo's then? To make them flush?

And about the lowering. How does that effect the offset, etc?

[Dousan_PG]

dood yoru so newbie its painful

offset isnt affected by car height.

tucked..nah, slammed.

yes spacesr but why. buy the PROPER wheels and dont 1/2 ass it. if you cant afford he proper offests, dont buy the others cuz they are cheaper. LMGT4s aer hot wheel, and what OTHER modifiactions does your car have? whats the point of sweet wheels if your car is stock bodied and burgundY? hahahahaha

[AadosX]

Well what do you reccommend then? I've never bought wheels before so forgive my ignorance. I was looking at these, what do you think about their size? I didn't think lowering affected the wheels, outside of camber, but someone mentioned it so I figured I'd ask.

http://www.wheelmax.com/Wheels/5zigen/fn01rbrz.gif

18 X 8.5 is +30 FRONT
18 X 9.5 is +22 REAR

http://www.wheelmax.com/Wheels/5zigen/n1brz.gif

18X8 is +30 or +38 FRONT
18X9 is +30 REAR

Last:

http://www.first-inc.co.jp/buddyclub/p1rqf/images/p1rqf_wheel_02.jpg

18X9 All Around is +35, but I don't think that will work.

Those are all the inexpensive wheels I'm looking at, If I decide I can afford it, I'll go with VOLK TE37 or the "correct" Nismo wheels.

Please give me your opinion.

BTW, 1997, DRFT Kit, Coilovers (haven't researched yet), SR20DET w/EBC BOV, etc (the basics) and still picking out exhaust. Looking for 250 RWHP.

[NiteKids]

"
BTW, 1997, DRFT Kit, Coilovers (haven't researched yet), SR20DET w/EBC BOV, etc (the basics) and still picking out exhaust. Looking for 250 RWHP."

Huh that's what you have or I'm confused? pics?

[AadosX]

No, I'm currently researching and picking out everything then buying at once. I just got the car, just sold my BMW, have 30 grand to work with but don't want to spend over 18 if possible.

[Dousan_PG]

first read this:

http://www.jspec.com/240sxfaq.html

Which wheel size and offset you recommand?

like everything else, it's all personal taste. before you decide which wheel think of the following: what are you using the wheels for? street,racing, or show(see below). what type of person are you? conservative---just wider then stock with no rubbing and bigger look. racer type---widest possible without passing the fenders(rubbing or not depend on how low the car is, spring rate, and tire size). hard core---will do ANYTHING to make it fit. rolling of fenders, negative camber, fender flares, and stretching the tires.



WHICH ONE ARE YOU, AadosX?"

let us know and we'll talk

[AadosX]

What do you mean, which one am I?

Thanks for the link.

I completely understand your not believing me, I probably would do the same. Either way, I thought it wouldn't hurt to let you know what my car will be like. And "one day in the future" is within a month.

[Dousan_PG]

Originally posted by AadosX
What do you mean, which one am I?

Thanks for the link.

I completely understand your not believing me, I probably would do the same. Either way, I thought it wouldn't hurt to let you know what my car will be like. And "one day in the future" is within a month.

ack read read read

are you:

a) conservative
b) racer type
c) hard core

read that quote AGAIN.

practice reading comprehension

[NiteKids]

Sure you may have all the money etc. But you have a thick head and alot to learn. It's not that easy just to jump right in.

[AadosX]

Racer Type. I drive my car hard, use it. I also Auto-X once a month maybe. And go to the strip every once and a while too.

I really don't know why wheels are so confusing to me. I picked up on suspension and the engine work in a flash, I really can't explain it.

Sorry for these posts... but here's what I mean. In the Nismo wheels for the 350Z, which I'm thinking about getting, the offset is:

Front --> 18 X 8.5 +25
Rear --> 18 X 9.5 +30

It seems like that is what I'd want because since the 8.5's are smaller, I'd want them to stick out more. I dunno, please help.

[Dousan_PG]

baaah you arent listening. i give up. get whatever u want. this is pointless going round and round.

[AadosX]

Damnit, I am listening. Just tell me what the "proper" offset is for either 9.5/8.5 or 9.0/8.0? Those are front/rear 18".

[Dousan_PG]

Originally posted by AadosX
Damnit, I am listening. Just tell me what the "proper" offset is for either 9.5/8.5 or 9.0/8.0? Those are front/rear 18".

for the THIRD Time

pratice reading comprehension


like everything else, it's all personal taste

there is no 'proper offset', its personal taste

[AadosX]

Well you told me to get the "proper" wheels... I like flush. I realize, but without understanding, what offset to get. Just tell me two things. Those 5Zigens, those will fit flush right? They are "proper?" And the Nismo's, they will be too far tucked in both the front and the rear? I just don't see how it's half assing to get spacers, you still have the same look, and the same wheel patch contact. I guess the only difference there is taht you're wheels don't look the same, they don't curve in as much... right?

[Dousan_PG]

spacers is not the right way for this type of wheel.

do you know what your buying? OBVIOUSLY NOT!

LMGT4s. probably by far nismo's MOST BLING high end wheel availble! not only is it copied, desired and sooo many people drool over it.

example:

buying the wrong offset is like marrying a 80 year old grandma instead of marrying the 18 year old hottie.



so you do it right.

since you DONT have a 240sx yet, go do more resaerch. did you go to the rays website yet and veiew the sizes

if you claim to be mr. moneybags i dont think another 500 bucks should hurt.

[Steeles]

F18x9 +20 (? lower with flares:) )
R18x9.5 +7offset :p

[AadosX]

Yes I did go to their site. I may have money but I don't spend it all... and I don't appreciate personal comments. Either way, you didn't even answer my questions. That's all I ask now, just answer those questions. I mean, sure I can go to Rays site, and see all the different offsets, but if I don't know which one I need, then that doesn't really help me does it. And what I'm doing right now is the research you speak of.

[Anubis]

I dont think you can afford those wheels anyway so fuck it all.

[No Motiv]

Those buddy club wheels are good...I had them for a while. pretty cheap huh......NIsmo shizmo

[Flybert]

*Flybert pushes Nitekids and Dousan aside.*

Now come over here to Papa Drift. I'll help you out. The proper wheel siza and offset for your car is *drumrole*..................*more drumrole* ................ 18x7 +48.65 This was done on my driftomometer machine. It takes many things into consideration including what diameter wheels you want, how cut your springs are, how much your frame has bent from hitting curbs and guard rails, how much you weigh, how many gutter pass maneuvers you make a week, etc. You can't argue with it. It uses all the laws of drift or DORIFUTO as some call it.

[Dousan_PG]

wow we really need to hold your hand huh?

rays wheels suggested sizes for s14 (on the rays website)

SILVIA K's S14


front:
1670 +33 205/55R16
front:
1680 +38 225/50R16

front:
1785 +30 225/45R17
rear:
1795 +38 255/40R17

front:
1885 +30 225/40R18*
rear:
1895 +38 255/35R18*

FAIRLADY Z Z32
front:
1885 +30 235/40R18
rear:
1895 +38 265/35R18

front:
1885 +25 245/40R18
rear:
1895 +30 275/40R18

front:
1985 +25 245/35R19
rear:
1995 +30 275/35R19


a real hardcore setup is a much lower offset and more extreme, those are suggested sizes for clearances issues and 'average joe' types

[Matt_240]

heres the sizes and offsets although i dont know if these are all of them:
18x8.5 5 114.3 +25, +30, +40, +43 $565.00
18x9.5 5 114.3 +12, +30, +38 $580.00
18x10.5 5 114.3 15 $595.00

based on this i would go 18x9.5 +12 front
18x10.5 +15 rear
roll, pull fenders + negative camber and you should be fine. it should be flush. maybe you can look at pictures of s14s with these sizes offsets and decide for yourself what you want.

[AadosX]

Well you should be able to see why I'm confused. Someone told me that I need

18 X 8.5 is +30 FRONT
18 X 9.5 is +22 REAR

(Smaller offset number on the rear)

But according to Rays it's the complete opposite...

[Dousan_PG]

Originally posted by Matt_240
heres the sizes and offsets although i dont know if these are all of them:
18x8.5 5 114.3 +25, +30, +40, +43 $565.00
18x9.5 5 114.3 +12, +30, +38 $580.00
18x10.5 5 114.3 15 $595.00

based on this i would go 18x9.5 +12 front
18x10.5 +15 rear
roll, pull fenders + negative camber and you should be fine. it should be flush. maybe you can look at pictures of s14s with these sizes offsets and decide for yourself what you want.

matt, you ddnt read his post
he's 'racer' type not hardcore type

9" +15 requires -3 degrees camber and stretched tires
add one more inch and do the math

9.5 front.. at least -3.5 camber and stretched tires.

that's why i asked him 'what type are you?' for avoiding this type of answer. because its not what he wants.

[AadosX]

Yes. I will not be messing with fenders, and I want stock or equal camber. I definitely want 9.5 rear and 8.5 front as well.

[Dousan_PG]

Originally posted by AadosX
Well you should be able to see why I'm confused. Someone told me that I need

18 X 8.5 is +30 FRONT
18 X 9.5 is +22 REAR

(Smaller offset number on the rear)

But according to Rays it's the complete opposite...


WHO told you?

[AadosX]

An aquaintance of mine. Here is his exact quote:

Me:


What offset do I need with 8.5 front/9.5 rear wheels?

What offset do I need with 8.5 all around?

What offset do I need with 8 all around?

Can you give me those in both 17's and 18's? (are they the same?)

Thanks!


Him:


8 all around...35+ or lower(32 will be good)
8.5 30+ or lower (25 or 23 will be good)
And 9.5 try to stay around the low 20s
This is for 17s and 18s, i belive. My numbers might not be exact...but they are very close

[NiteKids]

It's not that complicated. I don't see where the confusion is.

[Dousan_PG]

REALLY?

+20 on a 9.5 will need some fender rolling for sure.
+15 does
and definate camber and watch tire sizes

nitekids has 9" +15 about -3 camber and stretched tires and needs his fenders rolled still.

now, do some math and think how the 9.5 +20 will fit


the 8s and 8.5s are ok
but youll still need camber
have you even considered how much camber you''ll run??

you wanna play it safe? then go by the Rays suggestions. no worries there.

8.5 +24 or lower to clear front coilovers
8 +30 or lower to clear front coilovers

notice how all the rays suggestions for front are the same/a bit mm or 2 off?



+32 on most coilovers will hit the perch, your friends suggestion isnt good for a person planning to go w/ coilovers.

[AadosX]

If you can explain it in a paragraph then you rule, be my guest. Right now I just have two ppl telling me two differnent things. I don't even know what offset really is. I'll tell you right now I want stock fenders, stock camber, 9.5 Rear, and 8.5 Front. All I want to know is what offset for those sizes I need to have my wheels flush with the fender.

I could have sworn you said that lowering doesn't effect your offset choice.

[Dousan_PG]

Originally posted by AadosX
If you can explain it in a paragraph then you rule, be my guest. Right now I just have two ppl telling me two differnent things. I don't even know what offset really is. I'll tell you right now I want stock fenders, stock camber, 9.5 Rear, and 8.5 Front. All I want to know is what offset for those sizes I need to have my wheels flush with the fender.


ok
1) it is IMPOSSIBLE for the wheels to be flush with STOCK fenders without rolling them

end of that story

go with rays wheels suggestions and play it safe.
its obviously youll cry and complain if someone suggests you the wrong size. get the rays suggested and use spacers if you need.

[AadosX]

Ok, so this will work?

Rear: 18 x 9.5 +35
Front: 18 x 8.5 +30

WITH!! Coilovers, not slammed though, stock fenders.

Thankyou!

[Heartwork]

Sweet Jesus!!!!
this thread is completely absurd....

offsets, width, and tire size isnt that hard to grasp!

if u are a "racer" type, go with Ray's suggestions cause of the bigger non stretched tires! thats playing it safe!!!!!

a few offset/width guru's here will tell u low offset/wide combo with stretch tires , but they use it to their advantage, and in your case wont work cause you want to drag/auto-x..

now PERSONALLY, i like the look of wide/low offsets with stretch tires, and actually use it to my advantage..... manufacturer recommendations are their to play it safe, it'll fit, but look unappealing to the hardcore guys or whatever.....

Just go with the play it safe specs, and save yourself and everyone else the headaches.....

[Dousan_PG]

yes
it will nto be flush (much at all)
it will not be dish (face of wheel)
it is very conservative

but for what you want, it works perfect


no, front needs to be +24 or lower for coilover clearance.

which coilovers you getting? it might be ok depending on brand.


i dont think rays is considering coilover clearance. go +25 on fronts

the rear is a-ok

[Heartwork]

Originally posted by AadosX
Ok, so this will work?

Rear: 18 x 9.5 +35
Front: 18 x 8.5 +30

WITH!! Coilovers, not slammed though, stock fenders.

Thankyou!

What Kind of COILOVERS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!????????
Z32 or big brake conversion or none?!?!?!?!?!

why would u not roll your fenders? just do it as a precaution for future rims....

[AadosX]

Well shit, they don't make that offset at 5Zigen, so unless I go for the Rays.

Will this work on the Rays?

Same sizes, but 30 rear, 25 front? Seems like that front is what you said it should be, but the rear is a smaller number, which means what?

[Anubis]

http://vr4.org/img/npr/random/baddudehijack.jpg

[AadosX]

I have no idea what coilovers. I haven't even thought of that. OEM brakes.

[Anubis]

I think your acting like a dumbass just so you can post more and raise your stupid post count

[Dousan_PG]

i could have taught a 3 year old how to choose wheels for a 240sx before you can comprehend it.

heartwork, tag, your it!!!

[AadosX]

I don't think this thread can be rescued. I give up. I guess I'll just get the swap done, then lower it, then pick wheels. I wasn't aware that my coilovers could change the wheels I bought.

[Anubis]

Originally posted by AadosX
I wasn't aware that my coilovers could change the wheels I bought.

you have to remember that a coilover isnt shaped like a strut. Wheel offset has alot to do with coilover clearance.

[Heartwork]

Originally posted by dousan36
i could have taught a 3 year old how to choose wheels for a 240sx before you can comprehend it.

heartwork, tag, your it!!!

wuzzo wuzzle? :confused:

[mrmephistopheles]

Originally posted by dousan36
do you know what your buying? OBVIOUSLY NOT!

LMGT4s. probably by far nismo's MOST BLING high end wheel availble!

:blah:
Stop talking out your ass, Aaron.. you and I BOTH know that the LM-GT MAG is the most biggity bombass.

[HaLo]

Wow... talk about banging a newb in the head and he still doesn't understand... With conservative numbers, he should do a little math to see if the new width with offset would fit... then again, maybe he doesn't know what offset stands for...:bash:

[bobmeindertsma]

it may have helped if the poor AadosX (HEHE)
understood something about offset


this could help him out

Offset Explained (http://www.discounttire.com/dtc/brochure/info/helpDeskWheelOffsets.jsp)

[boro240]

Originally posted by mrmephistopheles
:blah:
Stop talking out your ass, Aaron.. you and I BOTH know that the LM-GT MAG is the most biggity bombass.
CENTERLOCK FO SHO!

[Dousan_PG]

true true! ive been had


:wtc:

[NZO]

Originally posted by dousan36
ok
1) it is IMPOSSIBLE for the wheels to be flush with STOCK fenders without rolling them

end of that story


Whats that about?

For some reason I have a strong urge to look at porn after reading this thread...

[mrmephistopheles]

Originally posted by dousan36
true true! ive been had


:wtc:

s'aight.. we still gots love for ya!

[uiuc240]

I don't know what's worse...the fact that this thread is THREE PAGES LONG...or the fact that I read the whole damn thing just to see if it would go anywhere. Wow.

I'm out.

Eric:bash:

[Matt_240]

Originally posted by dousan36
that's why i asked him 'what type are you?' for avoiding this type of answer. because its not what he wants.

doh! he started confusing me when he said he wanted them to be flush and wanted 8.5 front 9.5 rear.

[nokeone]

haha..this is comedy..:D

someone wants their cake and to eat it too...

if you are gonna spend that kind of money, go all out...if you are gonna cut corners, then just stop right there..why waste money on expensive, ill-fitting, less attractively offset wheels with no dish when you can have all of the above with minimal additional work which will drastically improve the vehicles look...

[andrave]

I read this entire thread. It made me happy on some strange level.
I don't think I would order very very expensive wheels, wait several months for them to be specially made and sent across the ocean, if I didn't know shit and I was getting told different things. I think your best bet is to call up tire rack or discount tires and tell them what you have, tell them what you want, and have them send you something. They have guarantees and customer service policies. If you order them from volk and they get here and you don't like the fit, you are gonna be screwed on a set of 2500 dollar rims.

If you don't believe me, look through for sale and see how many "new" pairs of specially made rims have been on here in the past year... quite a few. You order em, they are yours, for good or bad.