all wheel drive system

[jojothemonkey]

I was watching Monster Garage sat morning and they were takeing a 73 corvette sting ray and turning it into a mud bogger. Now during the show they have to make a awd system. To do this they had a toyota axle put into the front end with a drive shaft toward the back of the car. They conected the front drive shaft to the rear wheel drive shaft by using pullies and a chain. So what I am wondering is how could that be set up on a 240?
how much custom work would that take. You would have to have a front axle from a front wheel drive vehicle so you could have the drive shaft and steering. then custom drive shafts and conect them with a chain. I am just doing some thinking and wanted some input. The show was number 24 titled sling ray if anyone wanted to do some searching. I did some but could only pull up dvds for sell. Nothing giving any real details that they went into.

[ca18guy]

I would think taking the 4x4 sytem out of a Nissan pick-up would be easier. It uses the KA24, you would just need to figure out how to fit the 4x4 stuff under the car. Besides doing that, I guess you would have to watch that epsidoe over and over till you coaugt all the details of how they did it.... hope your a good welder and metal fabricator :o

[Ghettokracker71]

Maybe a Skyline AWD set-up or some parts from the Bluebird or both ? ...or you could just get an AWD DSM that already has a stock 2.0 turbo....

[brianglawson]

Originally posted by ca18guy
I would think taking the 4x4 sytem out of a Nissan pick-up would be easier. It uses the KA24, you would just need to figure out how to fit the 4x4 stuff under the car. Besides doing that, I guess you would have to watch that epsidoe over and over till you coaugt all the details of how they did it.... hope your a good welder and metal fabricator :o

:werd:

[misnomer]

This type of awd is a far cry from what you see in awd street cars. Most cars with awd have a differential between the front and rear, rather than locking them at (hopefully) the same speed. The idea behind their system was simply to make all the wheels turn to let it power through mud. On the road, you don't want the front and rear to be locked at the same speed, because they don't generally move at the same speed in a corner (think of it as the reason you have a differential in the rear to begin with).

All in all, there isn't a big enough advantage to AWD on the street for me to consider it a worthwhile project, though if I were to turn my s13 into a mud bogger, I'd see what I could fenagle with the d21 4wd. If you were dead set on awd for the street, look into what you can adapt from the Skyline. Just keep in mind a setup like you are describing is not great for handling, and the chain drive system might be prone to failure- not a project for your daily driver :P

[the head]

the thing you need to consider is that the mud bog car from monster garage was built to run one day that is it reliability was not a consideration that chain drive would not last plus as stated above it has no onroad or turning applications
as for the 4wd system from a truck being adapted the car would have to be raised up to fit a truck transfer case below it

in conclusion
not the best idea

[legin2]

4wd is hella cool and all but then you loose your rearwheel drive fun. you can drif awd cars, but its probably more fun and easier to drift a rwd car.

[ca18guy]

I thought the thread starter wanted to build a 4x4 off roadable 240sx not actually try to make it a gt-r/wrx style road AWD. I guess we'll have to see what style he was talking about.

[jojothemonkey]

Well thanks for your input guys. I am not realy looking into building awd system. I was just wondering about the practicality of it.

[Red]

I already asked.... Heavy Throttle... (SP)... They said it would cost about 25k for an RB26DET with AWD in my 95 240sx... (lost of fab work)

But he also said that it would be a bad ass swap and would love to do it...

If I had an extra 25k right now... I would have the only AWD 240sx...

My dream for my 240 is to do a Skyline conversion... So i'll have a R33240SXGTR

anyways... dreams do ome true. I hope I can find someone to do the work once i get the cash.

[TurDz]

Originally posted by Red
I already asked.... Heavy Throttle... (SP)... They said it would cost about 25k for an RB26DET with AWD in my 95 240sx... (lost of fab work)

But he also said that it would be a bad ass swap and would love to do it...

If I had an extra 25k right now... I would have the only AWD 240sx...

My dream for my 240 is to do a Skyline conversion... So i'll have a R33240SXGTR

anyways... dreams do ome true. I hope I can find someone to do the work once i get the cash.


lol...25k .......hilarious. weeeeee :aw:

[jojothemonkey]

For 25k I would learn what how to do it my self and do it.

[silvarshootin]

what the hell? for 25+k why not just buy a r32 gtr, though a awd 240 would be cool, there is a magazine(dont know which one) that is making a awd intergra using a crv drivetrain.

[king_johnthegreat]

Now, I could be wrong, but I believe that a company in Orlando, FL (Or somewhere on the east coast) has already done this, and swapped a Skyline drivetrain into a 240 chassis. Cost about $10,000 for the swap, and I don't think that included the equipment itself.

John

[andrave]

about the original idea, the thing is that you'd have to jack the 240 up enough to have clearance under the engine for that front axle...
with a skyline style tranny, that clearance is built in. Of course, the skyline uses a completely different front suspension than the 240 to accomodate it. If you are good with fabrication, either one would be within reach, but I'd say it would be built as more of a novelty project than a daily driven street car.

[camrytrd93]

Originally posted by king_johnthegreat
Now, I could be wrong, but I believe that a company in Orlando, FL (Or somewhere on the east coast) has already done this, and swapped a Skyline drivetrain into a 240 chassis. Cost about $10,000 for the swap, and I don't think that included the equipment itself.

John you are probably thinking of xatracing. they do rb20/25/and 26 swaps in 240's. they do good work and have semi decent facilites from what i was told by a guy that is on another forum with me. he and his father drove there one weekend to sit down and talk to the guys that owned the shop and the mechanics and see there credentials. he said they know what they are talking about and are a real nice bunch of guys.

[Red]

Originally posted by silvarshootin
what the hell? for 25+k why not just buy a r32 gtr, though a awd 240 would be cool, there is a magazine(dont know which one) that is making a awd intergra using a crv drivetrain.

I'm sure a skyline would be fun... But for how much I have seen them cost... I dont want one... Think of import tax, The cost to leagalize it... The insurance for an imported car... 25k is way to little to get a R33...

I just want to have the engine... and the AWD... Then not only would I have the only apealing thing in the skyline... Then I would have a RB26DET powerd AWD 240 that would be like 153 - 273 lbs lighter then a skyline... Think of it... The R33 GTR is 3373 lbs
my 95 240sx se is 2800 - 2920 lbs... They told me it would add around 300 lbs to the car... so 3100 - 3220 lbs...

I would have one fast car... They make the 3373 lbs hit 60 in only 5.3 sec

I could drop 25k in my car and not be anywhere near the price of a new corvet or viper... And I bet I could whoop em

(I dont look at it like... Its just a 240... I look at it performance vrs cost)

[Idratherbsidewayz]

Lol if you had 25k and wanted the most performance, speed and handling wise. Some JIC magic FLT-A2's, advan rims, good yokie tires, and sr20det with turbo upgrade and upgraded internals would definitely not run you more than 25k. You wouldn't have a novelty car, but a relatively practical, super fast, track whore... You would prolly have enough money to rip out the back seat, spare tire, and put in some lightweight sparco buckets w/ harnesses...

[93rps13]

Droping in a AWD RB20DET would nice, 240SX GTS4
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