View Full Version : Driving on Open Diff VS. 2 Way L.S.D in the snow
CrispMofo
12-10-2003, 02:08 PM
i get shiet for traction when drivin in the snow on my OPEN DIFF.
how much better or if better will a 2-way KAaz LSD help me when
it snows like crazy?
Dousan_PG
12-10-2003, 02:10 PM
i wouldnt use a 2 way in the snow, personally
in the rain its bad enough
it pushes, it locks up fast and it is easy to spin tires
i would use a VLSD in the snow, but that's just me.......
RBS14
12-10-2003, 02:24 PM
^^^^^^^
i definately second that.
a 2-way equipped car is very ass happy in the rain, i can't imagine what it'd be like in the snow!!
so basically we're saying 2-ways and snow DON'T mix.
lbcklik1486
12-10-2003, 02:31 PM
Exactly how fast does it lock up? Will it lock up under normal, and even gentle driving in the snow?
Dousan_PG
12-10-2003, 02:39 PM
hmm
mine locks up SUPER fast.
in the rain its basically full lock all day
hahahahahaha
nokeone
12-10-2003, 03:00 PM
yup mine too...locks at any and all speeds...anytime i turn i have to be aware of how much gas i am giving it or the the back end will swing out..fun yes, but not for the inexperienced..
andrave
12-10-2003, 04:18 PM
correct me if I'm wrong, since I don't use a clutch type LSD, but can't you adjust the LSD by removing clutch packs or something to make engagement a little "softer?"
Dousan_PG
12-10-2003, 04:21 PM
Originally posted by andrave
correct me if I'm wrong, since I don't use a clutch type LSD, but can't you adjust the LSD by removing clutch packs or something to make engagement a little "softer?"
yes but that requires removal of the lsd and disassembling it (lots of work)
my nismo is by removing a axle and changing torque.
either way, its a hour - 4 or so hours of work.
it will still engage VERY fast though, and basically be at full lock all day in the rain/snow
tchenku
12-10-2003, 04:26 PM
im a north carolinian and all but...
i would think your best bet is snow tires
CrispMofo
12-10-2003, 04:58 PM
I'll need a setup like the one in dousan's sig:p
TurDz
12-10-2003, 05:33 PM
Originally posted by dousan36
hmm
mine locks up SUPER fast.
in the rain its basically full lock all day
hahahahahaha
wow...i'd really like that :cool:
mbmbmb23
12-10-2003, 05:41 PM
Originally posted by tchenku
im a north carolinian and all but...
i would think your best bet is snow tires
Where in NC are you at?
I tend to agree....a nice set of snow friendly tires goes a long way....not only will it help in the snowy corners, but it will help you grab traction when braking (especially if you dont have ABS).
-m
tchenku
12-10-2003, 07:38 PM
^morganton (home) and raleigh (school). go hit up CarolinaNissans (http://www.carolinanissans.com) sometime :)
but yeah.. RWD, FWD, AWD.. doesnt matter what you have, you'll be stuck spinning all your drive wheels at some point (i.e. SUVs, 4x4's slidin' around and falling into ditches). Snow tires is the way to go...
twitchy
12-10-2003, 08:54 PM
my factory vlsd is good in the snow compared to cars with open diffs
i saw a truck beside me, one tire on ice one on bare pavement. The one on ice spun and spun and the other one stayed planted and he went nowhere. My car in the same situation will spin the one on ice once or twice and then it engages the other side.
still lousy in the snow takin off tho
andrave
12-11-2003, 01:40 PM
I second snow or at least snow friendly tires.
I only have an open diff right now, but I bought fresh mud and snow rated BFG touring TA's for winter since they are all seasons and I didn't have a lot of cash, and I'm been surprised at their traction in snow.
if you get a lot of ice or snow and have to drive on it, a set of blizzacks is a good investment.
RBS14
12-11-2003, 02:12 PM
Originally posted by twitchy
my factory vlsd is good in the snow compared to cars with open diffs
You have a factory VLSD?!?
haha jk........... couldn't resist. :D
FRpilot
12-11-2003, 02:29 PM
i dont get it. the handling package came w/ factory vlsd, hicas, and abs.
andrave
12-11-2003, 07:20 PM
I think it might have something to do with some VLSD stickers a while ago.
:confused:
lbcklik1486
12-11-2003, 08:29 PM
I've have a spec V, and with the helical lsd, it didnt seem to break traction excessively. Now I realize that the 240 is rwd, but with a gear type, such as a quaife lsd, it would be easier to maintain stability as opposed to a clutch type with harsher engagement correct?
twitchy
12-11-2003, 09:23 PM
i have abs, no hicas and vlsd
nightwalker
12-12-2003, 01:52 AM
oh man, I was driving from Sacramento to Modesto (1 hour drive) and about five minutes after getting on the highway, it started to pour like crazy. I had been sliding around and didn't check the wear on my rear tires. All of a sudden my car starts shimming side to side. I was driving the car at an angle most of the time, and it was scarier than fucK! I have a JDM vlsd, and this thing is so right side biased, but when it did kick in, the car would switch to the left almost instantly. I can't imagine how hard it would be to drive a 2 way in the rain!:hammer:
my suggestion, as has been suggested earlier in this thread, would be to get yourself a set of snow tires for the rear. i run those and have never had a problem getting stuck. the snow tires will definitely get you all that traction you need. i would think an diff would help if you get stuck, but i've done fine on open diff + snow tires.
Steeles
12-12-2003, 10:03 AM
fellow north carolinian here, nismo clutch type LSD, and SR. let me tell you... it sucks. especially since all we get is ice.. remember the big storm last year? yeah that blew. took 20 minutes of prayer countersteering and throttle manipulation to bet up the hill just to leave the damn office. another 3 hours for a 20 mile trip to get home. I was not amused. Moms better not plan on going anywhere if the weather turns like that again this year cause Im jacking the CRV :axe:
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