s14 sr20det rebuild!!!

[kouki_drifter]

got a 97 se kouki about 3 months ago and already spun a rod bearing:bash: so here i am rebuilding it:(, im going to post pics of the whole process so comment at will lol

[silverray76]

Were In the same boat builds in the garage lol

[kouki_drifter]

that sucks man im kinda pissed the guy i bought the car from added me on facebook so i could see some vids of the car and once this happened and i posted about it on FB he deleted me lil bastard he was a mechanic for Toyota im sure he knew it was coming thats why he sold it, but its all good Carma is a bitch! lol

[kouki_drifter]

here is some pics of the issue #3 spun Pictures by kouki_drifter - Photobucket (http://s1224.photobucket.com/albums/ee379/kouki_drifter/)

[kouki_drifter]

any body know where i can get torque specs for the s14?

[kouki_drifter]

Ok OEM crank,eagle H beam rods, acl rod and main bearings, super tec valve seals, and arp main studs on order wiseco piston heads, port, polish, 3 angle valve job, port match and decking coming soon yesss!!!

[Sileighty_85]

any body know where i can get torque specs for the s14?
Let me google that for you (http://lmgtfy.com/?q=S14+SR20+FSM)

[Highway Riding]

Ok OEM crank,eagle H beam rods, acl rod and main bearings, super tec valve seals, and arp main studs on order wiseco piston heads, port, polish, 3 angle valve job, port match and decking coming soon yesss!!!

$ Quote on all this including labor please.

Thx

[kouki_drifter]

Well parts from fr sport were $1200 and some change not including the piston heads, head work is $505 @ sileighty thanks man I wasn't sure what to look for thanks for the help so i could get this motor rollin

[Highway Riding]

Well parts from fr sport were $1200 and some change not including the piston heads, head work is $505 @ sileighty thanks man I wasn't sure what to look for thanks for the help so i could get this motor rollin

Thanks was looking for more of a complete rebuild $. Should have been more clear. I'm just getting prepared for a future rebuild even tho (knock on wood)all is good.

[kouki_drifter]

O ok I see well I don't knw a full amount yet I'm still in the process but it all depends on the brands you go with and what all you wanna do, I'll list pics and parts and the full amount once Im done with mine so you can get an idea of how much

[Luvs2slide]

FSM will list all if not most of the torque specs (possibly different on aftermarket parts such as ARP items).

[kouki_drifter]

ok guys i got an important question? ok i ordered a new oem crank and standard eagle H beam rods so do i go withe the #'s and colors that are on the crank for the rod and main bearings? or do i just order standard? cuz thats what i did i just ordered standard bearings, am i ok? i would really appreciate your help thanks!!!

[kouki_drifter]

this is the crank and bearings
Nissan OEM Crankshaft S13 S14 S15 SR20DE(T) Brand New (http://www.frsport.com/Nissan-OEM-Crankshaft-S13-S14-S15-SR20DE-T--Brand-New_p_16002.html)

ACL 5M2964H/X Race Main Bearing Set Nissan SR20DE/SR20DET (http://www.frsport.com/ACL-5M2964H-X-Race-Main-Bearing-Set-Nissan-SR20DE-SR20DET_p_9563.html)

ACL 4B2960H/X Race Rod Bearing Set Nissan SR20DET (http://www.frsport.com/ACL-4B2960H-X-Race-Rod-Bearing-Set-Nissan-SR20DET_p_9515.html)

Eagle CRS5365N3D SR20 SR20DET Chromoly Forged Rods (http://www.frsport.com/Eagle-CRS5365N3D-SR20-SR20DET-Chromoly-Forged-Rods_p_1367.html)

am i ok with this??? i got standard every thing

[kouki_drifter]

nobody at all??? ok my oem crank numbers are:
first line: 00000
2nd line: 0000
3rd line: 0930B
so how do i figure out how to find the bearing size i need? i searched but didnt come up with how to do it

[kouki_drifter]

ok so i found that because i am running a new oem crank that acl rod and main bearings would be ok because the crank is new and as long as the oil clearance is within .00008 to .00012 it will be ok, is this correct? i did a crude measurement of my crank with a digital caliper and it measured 47.90mm and i also measured my rod with bearing installed and it measured 47.98mm so the difference is .08mm is this an ok crude # i know plasti gauging is the proper way to do it but i just wanna make sure im in the safe zone now that way if im not i can get new bearings if i have to right away so im not putting a damper on my build or parts

[kouki_drifter]

http://i1224.photobucket.com/albums/ee379/kouki_drifter/018-1.jpg
tear down pics
surprise!!! hell yea the heads already ARP studded !

[kouki_drifter]

tear down pics

http://i1224.photobucket.com/albums/ee379/kouki_drifter/018-1.jpg

http://i1224.photobucket.com/albums/ee379/kouki_drifter/012-1.jpg

hell yea!!! surprise! the head is already ARP studded!
and it looks like the timing chain and guides are all new!

[kouki_drifter]

whst do you guys think of this?
ACT 600230 XACT ProLite Lightweight Flywheel 10.5lb 89-98 SR20DET (http://www.frsport.com/ACT-600230-XACT-ProLite-Lightweight-Flywheel-10-5lb-89-98-SR20DET_p_8090.html)
any of you running a light weight flywheel?

[kouki_drifter]

ok just plasti gauged my rode bearings came out with this is this an ok range? i read that nissan specs is .0014" +/- .0004 so is this ok or is the plasti gauge off???

http://i1224.photobucket.com/albums/ee379/kouki_drifter/006.jpg

http://i1224.photobucket.com/albums/ee379/kouki_drifter/004.jpg

[kouki_drifter]

http://i1224.photobucket.com/albums/ee379/kouki_drifter/kouki001.jpg

[kouki_drifter]

Ok quick question I knw max ring gap is .39mm I got me some wiseco forged pistone heads and the ring gap is at .43mm will I be ok or should I bore to 86.5mm or 87.mm

[kouki_drifter]

some new parts!!!

[kouki_drifter]

hks stage 1 256 cams

http://i1224.photobucket.com/albums/ee379/kouki_drifter/IMG_0204.jpg

[kouki_drifter]

wiseco 86mm forged pistones

http://i1224.photobucket.com/albums/ee379/kouki_drifter/IMG_0100.jpg

[kouki_drifter]

ARP MAIN STUDS

http://i1224.photobucket.com/albums/ee379/kouki_drifter/IMG_0203.jpg

[kouki_drifter]

APEXI 1.8MM MULTILAYER GASKET

http://i1224.photobucket.com/albums/ee379/kouki_drifter/IMG_0198.jpg

[kouki_drifter]

TIMING CHAIN KIT AND NISMO THERMOSTAT
http://i1224.photobucket.com/albums/ee379/kouki_drifter/IMG_0202.jpg

[kouki_drifter]

FRESH HONE

http://i1224.photobucket.com/albums/ee379/kouki_drifter/IMG_0197.jpg

[kouki_drifter]

EAGLE H-BEAM RODS

http://i1224.photobucket.com/albums/ee379/kouki_drifter/IMG_0072.jpg

[tricky_ab]

Christmas is in two weeks my man, but I guess it came early for you!

Lucky bugger! :)

[Darren]

Nice parts, hope it all comes together for ya!

[kouki_drifter]

sorry i havent got any pics up yet just been busy working on the motor i got a few more pics i'll post um now

[bc.]

FRESH HONE

http://i1224.photobucket.com/albums/ee379/kouki_drifter/IMG_0197.jpg

This looks weird for some reason.

[kouki_drifter]

http://i1224.photobucket.com/albums/ee379/kouki_drifter/IMG_0313.jpg

http://i1224.photobucket.com/albums/ee379/kouki_drifter/IMG_0300.jpg

http://i1224.photobucket.com/albums/ee379/kouki_drifter
/IMG_0299.jpg

http://i1224.photobucket.com/albums/ee379/kouki_drifte
/IMG_0276.jpg

http://i1224.photobucket.com/albums/ee379/kouki_drifter/IMG_0253.jpg

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http://i1224.photobucket.com/albums/ee379/kouki_drifter/IMG_0272.jpg

http://i1224.photobucket.com/albums/ee379/kouki_drifter/IMG_0275.jpg

http://i1224.photobucket.com/albums/ee379/kouki_drifter/IMG_0315.jpg

[kouki_drifter]

http://i1224.photobucket.com/albums/ee379/kouki_drifter/IMG_0299.jpg

http://i1224.photobucket.com/albums/ee379/kouki_drifter/IMG_0276.jpg
port n polish

[kouki_drifter]

http://i1224.photobucket.com/albums/ee379/kouki_drifter/IMG_0304.jpg
look at this crap brand new oem crank pully got it like this from frsport looks like it had been dropped when it was being packaged at Nissan had to send it back this sucks!

[kouki_drifter]

got more pics coming soon

[kouki_drifter]

heres a parts list so far

I'll start top to bottom
Ngk level 7 plugs
New oem lifters
New oem rocker arms
Hks ras
Hks step 1 256 cams
New cam sprocket
Arp head n main studs
3 angle valve job
New valve seals
Port n polish
Gasket match
Decked the head
Apexi multilayer head gasket
New timing chain kit (chain guides tensioner sprockets gaskets)
New oil pump
New oil pump drive gear
Nismo 65C thermostat
Wiseco 86mm piston heads
Eagle H-beam rods
Acl main n rod bearings
Full gasket kit
Greddy oil pan
Tomei expreme header
New O2 sensor
New oil pressure sensor
Tomei turbo elbow
Oem filter
Arp fly wheel bolts
Atc 6 puck clutch
Nismo motor n tranny mount
Braided turbo lines
Greddy magnetic oil plug
aline hone
I think that's all of it I might have missed a few things but I'm right at about $6500 more or less

[tricky_ab]

Well, no one can say that you cut corners on this one...

[Darren]

Well, no one can say that you cut corners on this one...

no doubt... seems like you've done this by the book and upgraded where it's really going to help, nice job!

[kouki_drifter]

thanks guys i figured why even break it down if your gonna half ass it so i just went all the way! lol i got a loan and sed the hell with it lets do this! i got more pics coming i'll keep you updated on how its going and i'll probly post up a video of the first starts

[ManoNegra]

ok so i found that because i am running a new oem crank that acl rod and main bearings would be ok because the crank is new and as long as the oil clearance is within .00008 to .00012 it will be ok, is this correct? i did a crude measurement of my crank with a digital caliper and it measured 47.90mm and i also measured my rod with bearing installed and it measured 47.98mm so the difference is .08mm is this an ok crude # i know plasti gauging is the proper way to do it but i just wanna make sure im in the safe zone now that way if im not i can get new bearings if i have to right away so im not putting a damper on my build or parts


I know it's an old post and it probably doesn't matter at this point
since it looks like you already put the motor together
but for someone that reads this in the future:

per FSM EM-94
Main bearing clearance
Standard 0.004 - 0.022 (0.0002 - 0.0009)
Limit 0.05 (0.0020)

Connecting rod bearing clearance
Standard 0.020 - 0.045 (0.0008 - 0.0018)
Limit 0.065 (0.0026)

also
- there's no way to measure this type of tolerances with a caliper
they're good on for ±.001" measurements

- even though some people swear by plastigage, it isn't also the best way to do it
the right way is to use calibrated micrometers and bore mics and to do it in a
temperature controlled room (~70° to 74°)


just my 2 cents, carry on

[kouki_drifter]

I know the hone looked a little weird, I went trough it again and it came out good do it's good to go

[kouki_drifter]

hell yea motor is in the car running great! every thing is good to go! i will have pics and first start vid up tonight

[kouki_drifter]

http://i1224.photobucket.com/albums/ee379/kouki_drifter/IMG_0374.jpg
here she is pushing her into the shop

[kouki_drifter]

http://i1224.photobucket.com/albums/ee379/kouki_drifter/IMG_0376.jpg
going in!!!

http://i1224.photobucket.com/albums/ee379/kouki_drifter/IMG_0377.jpg

http://i1224.photobucket.com/albums/ee379/kouki_drifter/IMG_0381.jpg

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http://i1224.photobucket.com/albums/ee379/kouki_drifter/IMG_0382.jpg

[Darren]

FUCK YEA! AMERICA!!

sorry, i had to... looks good!

[kouki_drifter]

lol thanks man! heres the first start vid!

[kouki_drifter]

http://s1224.photobucket.com/albums/ee379/kouki_drifter/?action=view&current=IMG_0384.mp4

here is the start up video

[kouki_drifter]

IMG_0384.mp4 video by kouki_drifter - Photobucket (http://s1224.photobucket.com/albums/ee379/kouki_drifter/?action=view&current=IMG_0384.mp4)

[kouki_drifter]

IMG_0385.mp4 video by kouki_drifter - Photobucket (http://s1224.photobucket.com/albums/ee379/kouki_drifter/?action=view&current=IMG_0385.mp4)

sorry about the shitty vid

[kouki_drifter]

http://i1224.photobucket.com/albums/ee379/kouki_drifter/IMG_0390.jpg
first fill up hell yea!!!

[kouki_drifter]

255 miles so far still running strong been keeping the rpms at about 3000, ive taken it up to about 5000rpms for a couple seconds im sure thats ok right? ive also been engine breaking "down shifting to slow down" at every light and stop sign

[kilamax03]

Soooo.. How's the car running

[kouki_drifter]

well... i took it to a local shop for tuning i purchased an aem stand alone, and the tuner set my waste gate vac lines backwards so he was able to get 400hp 364 tq on 16.3lbs of boost he advanced the timing to much so it blew the head gasket. after that i bored 20 over polished and balanced my rotating assembly and was waiting to hit the 1000 mi mark to retune, but at about 700mi the car was running weird oil pressure was fluctuating so i changed it during the change i found that the crank thrust washer had fallen off the night before and the crank was walking i was so disgusted with it i pulled it out and went V8 i may have it up for sale soon if anyone is interested

[Primo's Silvia]

Fuuuuuck ;( this is why i feel like selling my sr tht it still runs

[Silvia_Lam]

Interesting to see you went with the Eagle H-beam rods. What made you go with them? Was there website that had good reviews on them or was it just what the shop recommended?