And you think you've seen the most stretched tires.....

[Heartwork]

http://www.hostdub.com/albums/SoLo2pointO/stretched.sized.jpg

Retardedly stretch
i like stretch tires, but this is too far, dunno the specs on it, but my ideal stretch is 235-40-17 on a 17x10, 215-40-17 on 17x9, 195-40-15 on a 15x8, etc...

[-E-]

damn :coolugh:

[s14falcon]

Thats pretty stretched, but I know I've seen more stretching than that. It was this one pic,someone who scanned it from a japanese magazine on this board posted it, one of the d1 drifters had that wheel, it was crazy, like a 10.5 inch wide wheel with a 215 tire or something like that.

[Bill Roberts]

...that snizzle is not even beaded up...how can that hold air without an innertube?

Are they using an innertube??

I guess so...

[revat619]

Stretched tires to a certain extent are ok, but thats just stupid.

It's poinless and it looks retarded. :mad:

[masta]

If they are stretched then that is retarded, I mean it does not even attach to the rim.

But to me it looks like the tire popped out and is misaligned. :confused:

[gilwankel]

I've seen 195 on a 10" rim. It looks painful.

[Bliss]

Originally posted by masta
If they are stretched then that is retarded, I mean it does not even attach to the rim.

But to me it looks like the tire popped out and is misaligned. :confused:
not attached to the rim? yeah, obviously not. :rolleyes: the tire is inside the lip of the rim. yeah, its alot easier for it to pop, but its seated.

wtf does popped out and misaligned mean?

:D

[andrave]

195 on 10's

[gilwankel]

Originally posted by andrave
195 on 10's
Thats them.

[revat619]

Originally posted by andrave
195 on 10's

Those are also pointless and look retarded.

C'mon, a 195 on a 10" wheel....thats just ridiculous. And honestly, i wouldn't feel safe driving on something like that.

[old_s13]

I am not a fan of that kind of tire/wheel setup, but hey.. what can I say.. drifters are wacky people huh?

[nokeone]

damn...that is crazy...i'd be scared everytime i hit a bump..lol..i'll stick with 215 and 225 on 9" wheels..:)

[Dousan_PG]

yeah dont hit potholes
hahaha
but that's semi common..at least on VIP cars hehe..

pretty pimp but takes MADDDDD FUCKING SKILLS to install that type of tire/wheel! hahaha..its NOT easy to stretch tires like that much. some shops have trouble w/ 215s on 9" let alone something that crazy.

i love it. wouldnt do that extreme but its pretty impressive.

[DRFT]

Talk about stretch armstrong

[Bliss]

Originally posted by dousan36
yeah dont hit potholes
hahaha
but that's semi common..at least on VIP cars hehe..

pretty pimp but takes MADDDDD FUCKING SKILLS to install that type of tire/wheel! hahaha..its NOT easy to stretch tires like that much. some shops have trouble w/ 215s on 9" let alone something that crazy.

i love it. wouldnt do that extreme but its pretty impressive.

Anyone got a spare 9" or 10" wide rim? We don't carry any 195s in a wheel size that comes in a 9" or 10", but I'd like to try a 205. Anyone? :D

[masta]

Originally posted by Bliss
... wtf does popped out and misaligned mean?

:D I do not know if I can explain it in words, I hope this diagram helps.

() = Tire - Left '(' means outer and ')' mean inner
[] = Rim - Same as above

It looks like this: [ ( ] ) to me where the inner rim has sort of fallen in and is inside the tire.

I do not know, it just seemed like that when I looked at it at first. :p

[knghtryde]

Why would you want a streched tire. To be honest in my personal opinion it doesn't look right periord.

[Dousan_PG]

Originally posted by knghtryde
Why would you want a streched tire. To be honest in my personal opinion it doesn't look right periord.

its not about looks..well depends on 'stretched'

crazy stretched like that is looks
but stretched like a 215-XX-17 on a 9" is for response, sidewall stiffness and predictibility.
same goes for tires stretched on 16 and 17 inch

reduce wheel slop. how much/ depends how stretched and tire compound.

there are numerous things to take into consideration to getting that 'right feel'

[Heartwork]

Originally posted by knghtryde
Why would you want a streched tire. To be honest in my personal opinion it doesn't look right periord.

just what Dousan said....

but in Europe alot of guys stretch their tires mainly for LOOKS....
its against the law in Germany to have the tread of a tire stick past the fender, so they try to fit the widest wheels possible...thats where their idea of stretchin tires come in, then pull the fenders to have it flow....they dont look at it from a "performance" standpoint to lose traction, stiff sidewall etc...they just cruise around and have adapted the German/Dutch styling of stretching....

[adey]

It should be relatively easy to stretch a 185 on a 10" wheel... if they were 185/70/14 on a 14" wheel... on the other hand, if you found someone who made a 185/45/18, it would NOT fit on a 18", 10"wide wheel. :)
That is to say, the smaller the wheel diameter, the easier it will be to stretch a narrow tire on it, due to the increased amount of sidewall to work with.

I dont think I could go with anything more stretched than 225/40/17 on a 9" wheel or 215/45/17 on a 8.5" wide wheel, just out of fear of having the thing unseat itself when I hit a pothole/bump on the freeway... now THAT would be scary!!

[sykikchimp]

My wheels came from Japan with 215/40's on 9's

[Var]

i will try to mount 225's on a 10. do i need to get a tube for it to work? i heard they tie a rope around the tire while they inflate it so the beads will pop outwards.

[MakotoS13]

so its established that this is done for looks?

if their intention is to look as stupid as visually possible then i'd say that sucker LOOKS like they hit the nail on the head. wasted tire, rim, and car.... what tool.

[1sikgti]

In europe(could be just germany)the tires of a car most not patrude further then the fenders,so to to aquire the wide rim look european enthusiast started stretching there to tires to abide to the laws.

[Var]

so its established that this is done for looks?

.


no it's done for sidewall stiffness also.

[justinhustle]

i thought mine were kinda bad...

235 on an 18x10

[Matt_240]

my friend mounts 215/40 champiros on his 17x10 fn01s all the time (works at a shop, does it himself).
i'll take a picture next time i see him.

[mike13]

unless you can really tell the difference in response (and you want the type of response provided) by stretched tires, its idiotic for the simple fact that the edge of the rim has no absolutely no protection against scrapes. good way to scar your JDM tyte wheels.

[andrave]

pimp, why revive?

[MakotoS13]

THAT example HAD to be done for looks and based on this kind of work the victim/perp is probably gonna win a darwin award sometime in the not so distant future.

setting them up in this absurd manner would leave the bead plenty of room to move thus looking like crap AND giving the worst possible performance imaginable..

congrats, whoever you are... captain counterproductivity.

[WhiteNissanS13]

i dont understand why not just get rims that correctly fit the size 195

[Hubie]

I pretty sure that was done purely for looks. The crazy Europeans often do the wide-stretched style on VW's, Audi's, BMW's, etc and it has trickled to the US. The car pictured above is most likely a MK2(85-92) GTI or Jetta, or MK3(93-99) with Euro bumpers and fender flares.

[MakotoS13]

which makes even LESS sense seeing as i don't know of a single modern RWD VW that tuners use. yich

[AKADriver]

This thread sux.

The car in the original photo is a VW Golf.

[andrave]

then quit reviving it.

[No Motiv]

yeah streched tires look good sometimes......but i agree that looks shitty..and dangerous

[s14srpilot]

so its established that this is done for looks?

You should know this if you are not a NOOB :keke:

[Var]

I revived the thread just cause i'm buying some wheels and tires for my drift car, so i wanted to know about installing a small tire on a wide wheel. For those of you that dont like it, congradulations for having an opinion.

[Zemus]

Dident even know they made 195/40/15 wow. Id put a 205/55/15s on my 8.5, but my fav at this point is a 215/50/15, works GREAT

http://home.comcast.net/~onizemus/wheesl.jpg

[tastyratz]

thats just dumb i think it looks aweful. i can appreciate a mildly stretched tire but extreme stretches are just absurd. someone take that car out back and shoot it between the eyes if its not smashed up from a guardrail in the junkyard by now.

[Var]

:bash:

Someone just go start a poll for stretched tires so people can vent their anger over there

[MakotoS13]

You should know this if you are not a NOOB :keke:

hey queeny, how about you read all of my responses within the thread? stretched tires are a shortcut way to get stiffer sidewalls instead of going to a larger diameter rim with shorter sidewall. THIS particular instance HAD to be purely done for aesthetics because it is not a reasonable way to achieve the aforementioned result as this situation probably yields less stability than a non stretched/properly mounted tire.

yeah, basically reitterating my previous comments. do i need to PM you cliffs notes of every thread to make sure you can keep up with the rest of us?

there's no shame in struggling, kiddo.

[rainier]

i dont understand why not just get rims that correctly fit the size 195




seriously.

[Var]

I'll half-agree with Makoto because he is right about the stability issue. I wouldnt do it on a daily driven car or a show car. Personally i think a 10 inch rim with a 305 stuffed on it looks ways better than a 225 or 245, but it's not a reasonable setup for drifting. Also getting wide wheels with low offset IS an excuse to get flares which is cosmetic but it also gives you a wider track. Makoto if you say that it is ugly, that's a valid opinion. If you say it's stupid, it depends on a situation. If you think drifting is stupid, that's a valid opinion. I like drifting. I like stiff sidewalls. 18's are BAD for drifting cause i have a 4 cylinder car and 18's are too big, plus it's uber expensive to buy 18's and expensive to burn up 18 inch rubbers.

So how about 16x10 with a 245 on it? i think that's the best option for me. Only problem is it limits me to one tire options. Yokohama ES100

[MakotoS13]

drifting isn't stupid. the crap peopel create in the wake of the hype is stupid.

[Var]

drifting isn't stupid. the crap peopel create in the wake of the hype is stupid.


Can we agree that on a functional level, stretched sidewalls arent stupid? NO MATTER HOW STRETCHED>..maybe overboard but still functional.

[HaLo]

I am the exact opposite: try to fit the widest tires on a wheel.. sporting 245s on x8 rims... :)

[Var]

Halo..if I were "grip driving" (makoto i know you hate that phrase :p) i would do the same thing. It makes sense.

[tastyratz]

west are you saying that running a 165 on a 13 inch wide rim is still considered functional? theres a difference between function and (bad) form. theres a point where it stops being beneficial and starts being detrimental. btw west you can get 245s in toyo proxes as well :-) im planning on goign 245-40-17 on 17x9 +20 with a set of proxes all around soon enough...

[Var]

a 165 on a 13 is just showing off tire mounting skills. And probably wouldnt work anyways.. But you get my point. When i say no matter how stretched i meant the guy that put 185 on an 11 as the max limit.
185 on an 11 inch rim is a little excess. I think that 225 on a 10inch is the max i would go.
toyo t1-s are too expensive to drift with

[MakotoS13]

by stupid i mean having like two inches of exposed rim... it's just a waste and completely retarded. if you can't afford tires to put on the wide rim here's an idea ; DON'T TRY TO WASTE CASH ON STUFF YOU CAN'T AFFORD. i capitalize for emphasis, not anger.

like buying a vette and not having money for insurance after the car note rapes you... STUPID

[420sx]

this stretch isnt hardcore. its stupid and owner needs to end his poser life.

[tastyratz]

personally i just beat the crap out of junkyard tires if thats what im goin for but the t1s arent any more expensive than the yokos. i got quoted for my car... 245-40-17s all 4 tires with chrome stems mounting and balancing was 407$...

[90RS13]

In europe(could be just germany)the tires of a car most not patrude further then the fenders,so to to aquire the wide rim look european enthusiast started stretching there to tires to abide to the laws.

Nope. I see cars everyday, multiple times a day with tread way past the fenders. Also, every year your car has to past an inspection, and I've never heard of someone not passing because of the tread sticking out. I think someone in America just saw that Euro tuners stretch their tires, and so they just made up a reason that they do it so they could tell other people and try to look cool. Then the poeple they told, told more people. The European tuners do it purely for looks. (not saying that it can't be functional, just that that's not why they do it.) They love the stretch look. Especially here in Germany. If they wanted to fit wider wheels they would just go wide body. There are more widebody cars here than I've seen anywhere else. I've seen Ford Fiesta's with wide body kits over here. Alot of them just think that flared fenders with stretched tires are the shizzle.

btw; on alot of the cars with streched tires, the tread still comes past the fenders.

[Var]

by stupid i mean having like two inches of exposed rim... it's just a waste and completely retarded. if you can't afford tires to put on the wide rim here's an idea ; DON'T TRY TO WASTE CASH ON STUFF YOU CAN'T AFFORD. i capitalize for emphasis, not anger.

like buying a vette and not having money for insurance after the car note rapes you... STUPID


Makoto this is the last statement i'm making towards the defense of streched tires.

"by stupid i mean having like two inches of exposed rim... it's just a waste and completely retarded"

Agreed if you are driving around trying to look cool with it. But again..let's say you have a DRIFTING ONLY car. You're better off having 245's on a 9 or 10 inch than a 245 on an 8 inch (if you want the stiffer feeling) you can't argue this

"if you can't afford tires to put on the wide rim here's an idea ; DON'T TRY TO WASTE CASH ON STUFF YOU CAN'T AFFORD"

I hope this comment wasnt towards me cause i said "plus it's uber expensive to buy 18's and expensive to burn up 18 inch rubbers. " If i was to try to waste cash on stuff i cant afford, i would go buy 18 inch rims and 250 dollar tires and turn them into dust drifting. But instead i will buy 16 inch rims that are a little wider than the tire i want to use, then i'll burn up 100 dollar tires drifting.


"like buying a vette and not having money for insurance after the car note rapes you... STUPID"

This is my analogy. Your corvette is my 18 inch Work wheels, and your insurance is my 18 inch tires.

My 16 inch rims are a 240 and the 16 inch tires are my insurance. They are cheaper to work with, and you dont have to care about them as much if you waste them.

[tastyratz]

whoa we dont need anyone going postal and "wasting" their insurance. remember they are people too! hope we dont read about you going postal in the paper at a geico office...

[Var]

whoa we dont need anyone going postal and "wasting" their insurance. remember they are people too! hope we dont read about you going postal in the paper at a geico office...


Way to take focus off a good point and waste my effort.. you must be a republican

[tastyratz]

lol west calling me a republican that was a little harsh. its just friday afternoon and i get out of work in 10 min so im just in a good mood dont mind me and my useless post I made. god im whoring it today... my intentions werent to take focus off anything you had a good point just ignore my post i was just lightening it up... heres the other thing though going along with your post. at what point does a stretched tire benefit peak? for example a stretched tire will give you a stiffer sidewall but give you more of a front to back shaped contact patch. at one point for cornering performance (which is what the stretched tire would be done for obviously) does it stop being beneficial from the sidewall stiffness and start being detrimental from the "long" contact patch?

[Var]

that's a damned good question. i dont know

[kidinthehall]

Ive got that beat on the "retarded stretch" level. In either a young version or BM ive got at the house its got a small pic of an AE86 with N2 flares and a 195/60/14 stretched onto a 14x13" wheel. it looks gaaaaaaaaytarded. I'll try and dig it up and post the image in a day or so.

[andrave]

you owe it to the zilvia community. cause right now I think I have the record with my pics of 195/10's.

[Var]

You guys both need to post them here

[andrave]

I did already, I don't think zilvia lets you post the same pic twice. try a search

[Var]

http://www.zilvia.net/f/showthread.php?t=51687

[drewmcs13]

Tire Stretching Is Baller!

[WilloW]

WTF, you bump a thread from 2003 just to say that dumb shit?!?

[exitspeed]

Tire Stretching Is Baller!

Tell your friend, next time it happens (we can see what was posted before it was edited), you'll be banned.

Now, locking this up before it gets ugly.