silvia and skyline to stop prod. in august

[vancouvers14]

a friend of mine in japan says that nissan today announced that they would stop production of the silvia and skyline because of new emissions standards that it would be unable to meet.

hope its not true, but its all over the papers there...

[whateverjames]

that's not good. not good at all. well it might be good, maybe they'll make cars more emissions friendly for over here?

[crazycuban]

fuck renault

[Tuck&Poke]

god #### nissan is stupid.  just ad a coulpe of cats #### why do they have to stop production.  plus thats pobably for the r34 but i bet theyre making an r35 that will make the requirements.

[DJ Machine]

If the R35 is going to look like that ugly-assed concept i saw, that looked kind of like the 350Z, they can keep it.

[Chokets]

huh? I don't believe it. Skyline is too mac, and Nissan is usually a smart company (at least in Japan, freak'in none US release'n s15 jerks) but the GTR35 hasta be released... it's like, hasta!

I won't believe it, I can't believe it.

[Grant]

Dude, I woulda loved to have the s15, even if it only had a ka24de in it.

[BadMoJo]

That just cant be right! Anyone have any solid info?

[Zemus]

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huh? I don't believe it. Skyline is too mac, and Nissan is usually a smart company (at least in Japan, freak'in none US release'n s15 jerks) but the GTR35 hasta be released... it's like, hasta!

I won't believe it, I can't believe it.
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Yea, i would love to just see a skyline, i live in MN, and their is nothing down here other than a few decked out civics and intergras, so i would love to see a R34, (My dream car) i also dont love the look of the R35, but a skyline is a skyline <img src="http://www.zilvia.net/f/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/smile.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=':)'>

[Tuck&Poke]

man car companies are getting realy dumb. &nbsp;puttin automatics on everything (on the m3 for christ sakes! even a ferrari auto!&quot;) not using turbos (when was the last turbo car that came out) theyre getting soft on us.

[DJ Machine]

The golden age of japanese sports cars ended in like 1995-1997 (Bye bye 300ZX, Supra, RX-7, Mr2 turbo, and others)

[crazycuban]

nah, here it ended in 95-97...from the looks of things, its just ending now there...the supra and fairlady z were only recently pulled. &nbsp;the s15 silvia is the best performing silvia, the r34 is neck and neck with the r32, debatably even better. &nbsp;actually, honda's new nsx is supposed to be kick ass, and if toyota actually builds the 4500gt...and also, at least until they pull it, mazda will have the rx-7 and rx-8 for sale at the same time. &nbsp;keep in mind too that after 95, when they stopped selling em here, the rx-7 was upgraded from 255hp to new models with 280. &nbsp;the evolution 7 is by far the best evo ever...yeah, thats all i can think of right now, but u get my drift.

[240meowth]

i doubt it'll happen, because the skyline is the japanese supercar. &nbsp;and if nissan dump the skyline and the silvia, what are they going to have? the cedric? &nbsp;i'm pretty sure if they are having emission problems, they'll have a way to get around it, such as NA

[MK]

Well, the R34 is the last Skyline, that I know, the new critter being heralded is simply going to be called the &quot;GTR&quot; as they reckon it'll be sold on the GTR badge alone (assuming you have an arseload of $$$ to get it).

For some reason I think it would be &quot;hari-kari&quot; to just drop the S15 Silvia line for the simple fact it wins Car of the Year and gets praise from just about every motoring writer who's ever sat in one and taken it for a spin (literally <img src="http://www.zilvia.net/f/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/smile.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=':)'>). Heck, I'd buy an S15 but theyre #### expensive and I'd need a source of income thats only going to come from either selling drugs or pimpin <img src="http://www.zilvia.net/f/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/smile.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=':)'>

[misnomer]

Hehehe, the Skyline is a four door sedan (was from the beginning), coming to the states as an Infinity something or other. The Skyline GTR seems to be dropping the &quot;Skyline&quot; badging. That is the car y'all are drooling over. I've seen rumors and pics of concept s16s. . . Because the company says it's going to stop producing a car, it's often just retooling for production of the newer models.

[Archangel]

Nissan will probably put out a new version of the silvia, and the gtr, but I don't think they'll cut them both completely. &nbsp;
C'mon, the sell alot of silvias in Japan, and the GTR is one of their most defining cars. &nbsp;There's too much demand to just cut both of them. &nbsp;Like misnomer said, they'll just tone them down to meet emissions (which still sucks.)

[misnomer]

Might not even be toned down. I don't consider the new 350zx toned down, despite it not being turbo any longer <img src="http://www.zilvia.net/f/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/tounge.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=':p'>

[Chokets]

... I want a GTR, I'm in Northern VA, there are 2 R32s and an R34 around here... so sweet..... people must have big jack! one day i'll have big jack too, and on that day I will own my very own, brand new R56... d'oh, i'll be to old to enjoy it...
Hey, the age of Japanese Super car's is making a comeback... thanks to the good 'ol peeps at Subaru, the 2.5RS cleared the way for the WRX, now Mitsu is jealous... whens the evo supposed to be released here again, sure it's getting bumped up since they AWD beast of a WRX is doing so well here &quot;CAR OF THE YEAR&quot;, can all the ugly &quot;lancer&quot; owners say &quot;I'm sorry for buying this garbage, I know it's a Mirage with different badges (not that it looks as good as the older Mirages though... man, has anyone seen the yellow ones? *barf*
~oops, off topic...~

Japanese Super Cars... their making a comeback...

[thewholefnshow]

Well. They will both live on I am sure. They won't throw away that incredible new sr20vet, and the engine they are putting in the skyline is no big deal. They were going to bring it to the states for christ sakes, they said so themselves... that means they were ready to mean Cali, and if they can meet that, they can meet anything. They may change the name plates... and this is there way of getting some publicity...

[The Punk Genius]

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man car companies are getting realy dumb. puttin automatics on everything (on the m3 for christ sakes! even a ferrari auto!&quot;) not using turbos (when was the last turbo car that came out) theyre getting soft on us.
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Uhm....Subaru WRX

[uuninja]

Um car companies aren't that dumb. They sell what people buy. Most US new car buyers are women who like automagic trannies. That is why turbo sports coupes have traditionally done poorly in this market.

The s15 is going out of production soon in any case, as well as the r34. Both to make way for the r35 350z and possibly the s16 which will all share the same chassis in an effort to control production costs.

(Edited by uuninja at 9:16 am on Jan. 25, 2002)

[AceInHole]

I'm hoping the s16 follows on the XVL chassis the Z and G35 are supposed to be based on... probably with the Sentra SE-R's 2.5L engine (250sx??). &nbsp;I think it'd be pretty sweet..... just needs a turbo <img src="http://www.zilvia.net/f/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/tounge.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=':p'>

[uuninja]

I had heard that all 3 would be on the xvl chassis infact both the prototypes fot the new GTR and 350z(as well as the production model) are. As for the motor everything I have read says that the sr20ve will be the motor in any new silvia. Which is suppose to make over 200 HP NA. But I don't see how the s16 can be a step up from the current s15 with those numbers.

[AceInHole]

if the S16 is a lot lighter than the S15 than it can definitely hold its own with only 200hp NA.... but those SR20VE rumors are from a year ago... as are the pics from an earlier thread. &nbsp;The SR is, in all essence, being phased out. &nbsp;I don't think it would be too difficult for the QR25DE (i think that's the engine code??) to make 200hp.... so it's not like it makes too much of a difference. &nbsp;It'll still most likely be an NA 4-cylinder coupe... possibly a compliment to the 4-door Sentra....

[Tuck&Poke]

sure they gotta sell what people buy but they cant just focus on one group. &nbsp;the women who dont like to drive. &nbsp;there are people out there who love the feeling of snicking through the gears and just plain hauling ass. &nbsp;i dont know i just think that theyre going soft on us. &nbsp;look at europe 60% of the cars there are manual and 90% offer a manual. &nbsp;in 2000 only 2% of the cars sold in america were manual....i think im movin to europe!

[uuninja]

I don't think that there is a great chance of the s16 being lighter than the s15. SR or QR NA is a step backward if the I4 power plant is to be retained. I think that the s15 will be seen in the future as the golden age of the silvia.

[drift freaq]

Ok, guys number one, before you rip on Renault remember they are the ones that brought Nissan back to profitability. Two, the new 350z is one awsome car. Three, yes they are dropping the Skyline part of the name for the new GTR, why to eliminate confusion when they bring it to the states. Four , High horsepower NA engines are eaiser to make smog legal in the states for the manufacturer . Five , yes there will be an S16 an I doubt Nissan will kill the Silvia nameplate. Remember, right now all your hearing is rumors.

[thewholefnshow]

Another thing to remember about Renault is they make FAST little cars. Like insanely fast little 4 cyclinders taht are beaters for all intensive purposes... they are like civics only good. But I do wish renault would do what mercedes did fer dodge... they bought em and let em continue the way they were... What made nissan great is the fact that they have so many technological advancess that have never seen the light of day that it is sick, like there constantly variable speed auto transmission... where is it? There cars should be getter 500 miles per gallon with those things... but at the same time, they made so many great things that even if only one in ten got out... we got a silvia or a skyline. So you know... I think I forgot my point halfway through the post...lol.

[DragonReborn214]

Ok guys think about this:

Why don't they bring the skyline and silvia to the US? Mainly because of smog restrictions.

If they have to redesign the cars for strict smog emissions standards, then they WILL come to the US in the same form, just with LHD.

Something to ponder.

[AceInHole]

Is it just smog restrictions or a combination of design/ market/ purpose???

I still don't think the SR will survive long... and a QR25DE or VE will not be a step backwards.... especially not in the US. &nbsp;The SR20DE it replaces only made around 145hp... the KA24DE made 155hp... and it's a step back going to 200hp?? &nbsp;I just hope it'll be priced comparitavely to the Spec-V.... the way it should be. &nbsp;If the car is really an S-series... it won't need tons of power anyways.

[vancouvers14]

the problem is smog levels.

and these cars will never come here cause ppl here want suburbans and f150s

[mbs13]

I work for a Japanese Airline and the official word out of the newspapers we got was that Nissan was indeed halting production of both the Silvia and the Skyline GTR for the next 2 years pending public interest.

Now my 2......We also just had an American Skyline come through my warehouse (nice car, pics on my website). I think Nissan is probably just retooling/restyling like some of you have already said and they might do name change....Integra to RSX kinda bullshite. Makes sense to me, new management slowing things down, regrouping and then changing (hopefully for the better). Nissan is so hugely popular in Japan its insane. Nissan can afford a short hiatus. Besides we dont get the #### cars anyway......