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axiomatik
09-20-2011, 11:41 AM
Going one step further than current unmanned drones, the military is researching fully autonomous drones that do their own search and targeting.

A future for drones: Automated killing - CBS News (http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2011/09/20/wapo/main20108805.shtml)

This successful exercise in autonomous robotics could presage the future of the American way of war: a day when drones hunt, identify and kill the enemy based on calculations made by software, not decisions made by humans. Imagine aerial "Terminators," minus beefcake and time travel.

mkezzo16
09-20-2011, 11:43 AM
Youd think after all the movies made about these kind of things they wouldnt want to risk anything like that happening.

exitspeed
09-20-2011, 11:54 AM
Youd think after all the movies made about these kind of things they wouldnt want to risk anything like that happening.

You're giving us far too much credit. lol

Corbic
09-20-2011, 11:59 AM
Youd think after all the movies made about these kind of things they wouldnt want to risk anything like that happening.

Yeah, but if it results in a few thousand of these...what's to complain about?!

http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-Y_MwxaMmRJ0/TWHxSTElWUI/AAAAAAAAAZc/R_YDs5l8EWg/s1600/tricia-helfer-as-number-6-on-bsg.jpg

DenkiMan!
09-20-2011, 12:00 PM
its the beginning of the end :wtc:

sil80owner
09-20-2011, 12:16 PM
This reminds me of the terminator... :(

WanganRunner
09-20-2011, 12:28 PM
I don't understand the attraction to this, I'm sure it would still require human authority for weapons release?

I guess it would just make the hunting more efficient, and so instead of actually piloting remotely and searching, armchair drone "pilots" would really just be presented with a twitter-like stream of yes/no kill approvals for drones that have found targets.

Probably still keep some on human remote pilot though, just to hedge against foes isolating and exploiting wrinkles in the search algorithms.

Unmanned combat is fascinating to me, reducing war to a series of "if/then" statements.

Smurf_240SX
09-20-2011, 12:37 PM
Yeah, but if it results in a few thousand of these...what's to complain about?!

http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-Y_MwxaMmRJ0/TWHxSTElWUI/AAAAAAAAAZc/R_YDs5l8EWg/s1600/tricia-helfer-as-number-6-on-bsg.jpg

He's got a point :drool:

ericcastro
09-20-2011, 12:43 PM
whats after thatyou ask??

First thing they do is start military guys getting chips put in em so the drones can "rocognize" friendlies, then it will move to the rest of us once we are comfortable with it.

They have been getting us comfortable with chip in our pets, and tried to convince us to put em in criminals. fucking big brother.


cant wait till a terorist virus hits some drones stateside and they wipeout an elementary school, hospital and sporting event.
Go USA !!!

4DOOR_LIFE
09-20-2011, 12:54 PM
This reminds me of the terminator... :(

hence the title....

Makes me think of that Movie Stealth. mmm Jessica Biel.

I Don't think you can implement raw instinct into artificial intelligence. and that is something drones will always lack.

dsastr_clan
09-20-2011, 01:08 PM
the used a Porsche cayenne dang!

Corbic
09-20-2011, 01:12 PM
Don't think you can implement raw instinct into artificial intelligence. and that is something drones will always lack.

In Desert Storm we had more people killed by friendly fire which was the result of trigger happy or "gut feeling" pilots.

Even in Iraq II a A10 pilot killed 38 Marines when he blew up two AAV-7s.

Trust me, nothing in this world is as big and ugly as a AAV. Not a lot of "instinct" going on as you biz by at 700mph at 20,000 feet. Just poor judgement.


Your also forgetting that drones are far outpacing human ability, both in body (airplanes surpassed human physical abilities in the early 50's) and mind.

The new HTV2 Drone recently clocked 13,000mph, Mach 20.

Think about that, 13,000mph, that's from the USA to Iraq in 30 minutes.

4DOOR_LIFE
09-20-2011, 01:29 PM
Thank you for enlightening me on that. I was waiting for someone with military experience to share their input on the subject. I do see the advantages of Drones in certain situations.

I was kind of quoting the movie stealth, but i didn't remember the actual lines.lol.

Corbic
09-20-2011, 02:03 PM
cant wait till a terorist virus hits some drones stateside and they wipeout an elementary school, hospital and sporting event.
Go USA !!!

That is actually why we are going to AI based systems. With current remote piloting you rely way to much on satellites and EWAC aircrafts. Which means there is a possibility for the system to be hacked or jammed.

With AI, you simply program in a flight course, uploaded a target and then let it do its thing. It would have enough intelligence to adjust for weather and defend it's self as well as being adaptive to finding the target.

http://www.kent.net/robotech/vehicles/rdf/ghost.gif

Apparently Robotech/Macross was not to far off... the ram-jet, trans-atmospheric Drone, the ghost.

Bbsalexaz
09-20-2011, 02:17 PM
this all seems like BAD BAD BAD ideas.

WanganRunner
09-20-2011, 02:27 PM
Haha I was going to post the Ghost.

No reason whatsoever for manned aircraft of any type, except perhaps choppers (rescue personnel at sea, etc)

Brian
09-20-2011, 02:28 PM
Our military hardware is getting REAL awesome.

Although, I'd love to see a Tomcat fly again.


also - this article is interesting
http://www.wired.com/dangerroom/2011/09/space-war-arsenal/
... especially the NRO stuff. :)

ericcastro
09-20-2011, 04:56 PM
http://www.kent.net/robotech/vehicles/rdf/ghost.gif

Apparently Robotech/Macross was not to far off... the ram-jet, trans-atmospheric Drone, the ghost.

Sci Fi is always the future imo,, at least the real writers that are in print.


This thing was AI
http://olbroad.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/04/machine.jpg

Yellow4g63
09-20-2011, 05:13 PM
Yeah, but if it results in a few thousand of these...what's to complain about?!

http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-Y_MwxaMmRJ0/TWHxSTElWUI/AAAAAAAAAZc/R_YDs5l8EWg/s1600/tricia-helfer-as-number-6-on-bsg.jpg

I don't know why but this came to mind

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BustedS13
09-20-2011, 05:18 PM
yes, FINALLY the US is stepping up its genocide game. my only hope is that the robots kill the brown enemies by beating them to death with gideon bibles. ron paul atheism cannabis dubstep.

ZilviaKid
09-20-2011, 05:32 PM
Yeah, but if it results in a few thousand of these...what's to complain about?!

http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-Y_MwxaMmRJ0/TWHxSTElWUI/AAAAAAAAAZc/R_YDs5l8EWg/s1600/tricia-helfer-as-number-6-on-bsg.jpg
you forgetting the part where they nuked the planet? lol

Corbic
09-20-2011, 05:42 PM
Sci Fi is always the future imo,, at least the real writers that are in print.


This thing was AI
http://olbroad.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/04/machine.jpg

But by act three he was as gentle as a puppy!

ericcastro
09-20-2011, 07:05 PM
yes, FINALLY the US is stepping up its genocide game.
:bowrofl:

But by act three he was as gentle as a puppy!
oh so true !!!

Green light it !!
lol